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09:00
TWL thecoshman is bad at extrapolation
@sehe The RoR convention is not enough, it relies heavily on system specificity that you don't always have
@sehe The only decent solution from a workload PoV is docker and you gotta admit that it's stupid
¬_¬ fuck y'all
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fuck RoR
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva T’es pas si fûté aussi haut qu’t’es.
is that claim true about RoR, that you can't just install shit?
09:02
@Mr.kbok A current directory always exists. Nothing system specific.
It might be bad taste for many sysadmins (with good reason) but it's not system specific
@LucDanton convoluted but good. 4/10
@sehe what about the ruby version and the gems and the native packages and the reverse proxy and the mailer
@sehe did you know that gem install almost always builds a native module? I'm sure you can guess what can go wrong there
@Mr.kbok I dunno :)
I'll get back when I read the rest.
@Mr.kbok Is that a fable or a joke.
It took me three hours, in the course of three separate days, to make Ell's ruby game work
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09:05
lol
because gem install has a bazillion ways to break
I was just responding to the stuff he actually says in Rails Sucks. And there's not a lot in there
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I'm gonna steal all your rubies and gems
gem eraisplutotcrever
I'd rather <crever>?
09:06
@sehe Oh yeah, well, I'm fine with that actually.
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> Only one thing can bind to port 80 and it has to run as root, so your options are to use nginx
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You want Nginx anyway to serve your static assets.
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Or a CDN.
do they walk into a |
@sehe The obvious thing that he doesn't want to admit is that not many people install other people's rails apps
09:07
thank god
I'd rather spread Ebola than rails apps
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Erlang on Ebola
47% of French people are depressed /o/
@Morwenn Brest has the greatest percentage of depressed people and suicides
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the other 53% are drug addicts
hope that helps
09:08
On the bright side it's a prime number
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no, 0.47 is not a prime number
@Mr.kbok Just like Japan. Coincidence?
@Morwenn Maybe an old Japan colony. There's an unsettling ressemblance between Brest and Naturo's hidden village of the Rain.
09:09
@Mr.kbok Also, alcoholism in both Brest and Japan.
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Breast
@elyse 47 is though
I’m googling for images to check, are you sure it’s not just the rain that makes it look like that?
@Morwenn v. happy cicada has a good chance making into this 47% F.u. butt 4 clicking on the flag
Then again, that would make sense.
09:10
The old japanese colony of Buresutô
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@thecoshman yes, but 47 wasn't mentioned
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only 47% (i.e. 0.47) was
Do you still have that bridge where people jump from to kill themselves
lol elyse and its shitty conception of percentages
@sehe Maybe it got slow (when I booted Windows) by coincidence, but that suggests the assumption that the Universe hates Windows
09:11
47% is not 47 nor 0.47 nor anything
it's 47%
eat an dick
@Mr.kbok Yes, but there are big fences around it now.
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva lololol
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@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva yummy
how to... nah
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09:12
I am scared.
@Morwenn good.
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva eat a dick
learn to English, ffs
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hey you're supposed to star that, not flag it
@elyse Of what? Who?
@thecoshman nope
09:13
don't flag please
@JonClements
Now if you jump from there, you really mean it.
@TonyTheLion ¬_¬ I want to flag that
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@Mr.kbok of the ever increasing transphobia
@Morwenn Yes because before it could have been accidental!
09:13
It's increasing?
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yes, it's being imported and welcomed
Yeah it went from 0 to 1
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Well, now people try other things. Other bridges, but it's less practical since there is water under them.
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva No, but maybe people jumped, but you know, just to try it out. They didn't really meant to jump.
@Morwenn lol and people don't like to die wet?
09:15
@elyse imported??
@TonyTheLion I'm confused...?
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and there was a related attack recently
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva It's more like they survive, 50 meters is not enough.
@JonClements They got cleared now
@elyse wat (link pls)
@Morwenn That's what she said.
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09:17
yeah, well. you know. that language
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> Plaque de cuisson electrique.
@Morwenn A friend of mine saw someone jump from below when she was a kid.
@elyse I only see cultural enrichment.
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I see unsafety.
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I want to be safe.
09:20
stop changing sex
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No, other people should stop attacking people.
Yes, that's a good idea too
@elyse You had to educate people around you before transphobia kicked in.
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Because besides wanting to be safe, I want to be happy too.
Are you on hormones now?
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09:21
No not yet.
stop changing sex
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no, I don't want to
Bow to the great D
then convert to islam
bring a clock to school and make it explode
lobster/rightfold/elyse is going to be a transexual? how wonderful
happiness will have been reached
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09:22
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva well, that'd be annoying, since then I wouldn't allow myself to enter my own home
why are you so extremist
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precautions
islamophobe
stuffs mooncake in mouth
mooncake?
@Morwenn 100% of depressed French are French. Now, that's devastating
09:25
what should I eat at lunch
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what is mooncake?
Why would he convert to islam? He's going to becoming a she. She does not want to share a man with 3 other women
let's start an IM campaign to find someone to go to BK with
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@Mr.kbok un baguette mit bratwurst and butter
@elyse Brest cancer
09:26
Mooncake (simplified Chinese: 月饼; traditional Chinese: 月餅; pinyin: yuè bĭng) is a Chinese bakery product traditionally eaten during the Mid-Autumn Festival (Zhongqiujie). The festival is for lunar worship and moon watching, when mooncakes are regarded as an indispensable delicacy. Mooncakes are offered between friends or on family gatherings while celebrating the festival. The Mid-Autumn Festival is one of the four most important Chinese festivals. Typical mooncakes are round pastries, measuring about 10 cm in diameter and 3–4 cm thick. This is the Cantonese mooncake, eaten in Southern China in...
@sehe There are higher risks of skin cancer in Brest because of the weather.
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There is a higher risk of cancer in Lounge<C++> because of C++.
There's a risk of cancer because of cancer
@elyse No, I want a real meal
@chmod711telkitty that's only lightyears off the mark. Islam wouldn't allow you to change sex/gender anyhow
09:27
@sehe That's not true, I think
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@Mr.kbok Peejestaamp mee rookworst
Well. At least the way I understood it. Something with bodily integrity
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@sehe It's easy to look like a woman in islam, though.
@sehe The islamic state of Iran recognizes transsexuality as a disease and allows transition for men as long as you obey the laws of the sharia as a woman
09:29
Before the Islamic Revolution in 1979, the issue of transsexuality in Iran had never been officially addressed by the government. Beginning in the mid-1980s, however, transsexual individuals were officially recognized by the government and allowed to undergo sex reassignment surgery. As of 2008, Iran carries out more sex change operations than any other nation in the world except for Thailand. The government provides up to half the cost for those needing financial assistance, and a sex change is recognised on the birth certificate. == History == === Pre-1979 === In 1963, Ayatollah Ruhol...
@Mr.kbok o.O That's... Very progressive.
> As of 2008, Iran carries out more sex change operations than any other nation in the world except for Thailand
I venture this will not be mainstream islam. Since they outrank all other nations in this particular stat
We receive mooncake boxes from the brokers
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> Those who wish to remain "non-operative" (as well as those who cross-dress and/or identify as genderqueer) are considered their biological gender, and as such they are likely to face harassment as being homosexuals and subject to the same laws barring homosexual acts.
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i.e. RIP me
lol I have a gay friend who told me about his trip around Iran. apparently it's fairly easy to get dick.
09:31
@elyse Too bad.
> At the time Khomeini was a radical, anti-Shah revolutionary and his fatwas did not carry any weight with the Imperial government
understatement of the year
It was just reactionary. And apparently got "ratified" by sheer twist of fate?
> this did not apply to those without physical ambiguity in sex organs
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There is one and only one god and it is the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
So you could "change gender" iff your body was a mix anyways
@elyse Sometimes it rests
09:32
@sehe Iran is very progressive in some suprising ways, just like the US sometimes isn't
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That's why I wear a tinfoil hat colander at all times.
I'm trying to think of ways in which the US is not surprisingly conservative
@sehe economy.
That's laissez-faire. You should know :)
Food?
09:34
There's a difference between "dog-eat-dog" and "progressive"
I guess :)
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@sehe racism.
@elyse Ok. Half point awarded.
AFAIK Iran has a lot of social programs too
Just don't be in a metal band
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@sehe Nuking Japan.
09:35
Yup. And they play in the rococup. And they massively outplay Germany. So there's that
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btw the Netherlands has tanks again
sehe so iranophobe
@elyse I'd be torn on that. I'm p. sure that's ultimate conservatism (although the technology might be inventive)
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Well, they used to do it, and now they don't do it anymore.
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So they're not very conservative in this aspect.
09:37
@LucDanton Huh. Did I say something detracting from Iran?
Anyway my point is that islam isn't what ISIS says it is
@elyse Oh. Programmers and their words
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@Morwenn What? Look at McDonald's. You can conserve that for years.
Stupidity and backwardness are not the exclusive privilege of any religion / group of people.
09:37
@elyse More like "preserve", no?
@Mr.kbok Oh. Really. I didn't realize that (mainly because ISIS wasn't even mentioned once)
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@Morwenn shush learn Dutch we use the same word
@sehe My bad, it’s a real word. I wanted to make a gratuitous portemanteau.
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ISIS is literally Hitler.
Not that I would like to call myself a portemanteauphile.
There, I did it.
09:38
@elyse It would be "conserve" in French too though...
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@Morwenn excellent
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you know what also starts with "con"?
@LucDanton Star awarded
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> You need at least 2GB of addressable memory (RAM + swap) to install and use GitLab! With less memory GitLab will give strange errors during the reconfigure run and 500 errors during usage.
/cc @R.MartinhoFernandes
> strange errors
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lol 2GB RAM for a Git UI
That's awesome
hahahaha wait, the best part comes next, memory scales with the amount of users
> 2GB RAM is the recommended memory size and supports up to 100 users
4GB RAM supports up to 1,000 users
8GB RAM supports up to 2,000 users
amazing
BUT GUYS IT'S MARGINALLY BETTER THAN GITHUB
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva rubby
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Is it written in Java on top of the Minecraft engine?
@sehe It's made out of redstone circuits
probably written in Java on top of a JVM written with redstone within Minecraft
@Mr.kbok shit, grilled
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JRuby
09:43
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva arbitered
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Yours was more effort, hence came in late; will be treated as simultaneous entries after correcting for message composition
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well, Ruby and redstone are both red
@Mr.kbok frontran
@Mr.kbok I don’t know that one.
Many things are red
09:43
@sehe FGITW get the upvote
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snort a mix of coke, redstone and glowstone
@Mr.kbok Yes. Unless the shot leaves a scratch only
@LucDanton In HFT, the first one to pass the order gets the margin, he's said to arbiter the price (or, incorrectly, his competitors)
09:45
Inside joke because we both work in HFT
what do you mean enough of that
HFT is the stock name for HUFTERS I suppose :)
compare with elyson who works on HRT
high frequency trading, like Mysticial
09:45
@LucDanton High Frequency Trading.
How fast is a trade? Are you running on the same machine as the exchange?
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva (ikr)
how high do you have to be roughly speaking
2 ounces
09:46
@elyse and become The Flash
@LucDanton Very loud, like if the other person was on the other side of a gym.
@JohanLarsson No, you get your own machine in the exchange datacenter. Everyone gets the same length of cable for fairness. Also speed of a trade, depends on what you measure. But it's between ~200 nanoseconds to a couple microseconds depending on what part of the path you measure
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also gunpowder
@JohanLarsson How would anything be audited if so? I think everything in very fast network exchanges
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva does anyone stick little emf emitters near other peoples machines?
09:48
Also I don't work on HFT, I work on simulation models, but people in my team work on HFT.
No in Asia there are no EMF emitters AFAIK
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva ty sir
We try not to do too much HFT though because it's forbidden by law
Market is much less competitive than US
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva o_0 there is nothing in Asia that emits EMF?
09:48
@Mr.kbok What, forbidden by law?!
@sehe I don't understand the latter part
I wrote an arbitrage bot for bitcoin once
@JohanLarsson Oops s/in/is on/
@thecoshman Clarify your first question, I may have misunderstood
did not bother running it
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Volcker rule. We're a bank.
09:49
@JohanLarsson So that's how it crashed
@Mr.kbok But what prevents you from doing that in another countries? All French banks here do HFT and BNP dominates the market by far.
I think there was actually some margin there, not enough money for the big companies to bother
gj regulatory bodies
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva The Volcker rule. It applies to other branches than the US.
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva I suggested (jokingly) putting a device on other peoples cables that would cause interference... and you said Asia doesn't have things that emit emf... which would mean nothing wireless at all...
09:50
Well I guess not in China? :D
But figuring out transfer fees etc was so boring I abandoned it
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Also I think BNP only does execution in HFT, just like us. They don't arbiter the market like you do.
@thecoshman Ok, I thought you were talking of this
Also some risk n being exposed to the bitcoin world, someof them felt pretty shady
@JohanLarsson If you run a bot you have no way of covering that crazy bitcoin position
09:52
There are bots arbitering the GW2 market, even though ArenaNet says there aren't
@Mr.kbok I don't know the detail.
@Mr.kbok idea was to buy at exchange a and sell at b when there was profit. If prices were oscillating it could have been very nice
but if you have to transfer € between exchanges fees would eat profits fast
bitcoin transactions are not fast enough, are they?
Ell
Ell
No
bitcoin transactions can take a while unless you bump up the reward thing
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva couple of minutes iirc
09:54
but differences between exchanges were big
@JohanLarsson You're still exposed to the bitcoin price overall
Ell
Ell
I was interested in writing a bitcoin trader also some time ago
but I don't know enough
I did not write it to get rich, was just recreational programming
The exchanges had nice apis & documentation and I had never done anything web
@Mr.kbok true bot on average that would average out I think
plan was to only have the coins for short periods of time
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva FASTER!
oh, ok
09:57
@thecoshman yeah it's crazy
Ell
Ell
@Mr.kbok but it was worth every second, right? ;)
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva FASTER!!!!!!!!!
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harder better FASTER stronger
10:09
Random comment on a gaming-related post on Facebook:
> $array = [1, 2, 3];
echo $array[0]; // Displays "1"

Les mêmes "vrais" comprendront
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Sigh, what a piece of shit.
Fuck everything Ruby.
now tell us something that is good
Ell
Ell
do any of you guys experience restless neck syndrome?
or isn't it a thing?
> Les mêmes vrais
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@Morwenn ?????????
Ell
Ell
10:16
> the same "real" include
@elyse Some random gaming post and people spreading their knowledge about "true" people knowing that everything starts with 0 and not 1.
« lolmg, so 1337! »
Then a great PHP example to show how 1337 they are.
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Ell
Ell
@elyse uuuuuuuuuuughhh
so much cringe
@elyse Ew~
Ell
Ell
10:18
that guys is such a dick
Just boarded a plane to amsterdam
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@Ell I got it from /r/ProgrammerCringe.
What you doing there?
Besides weed.
10:19
Wee... Oh
Ell
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz cool
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@R.MartinhoFernandes seeking asylum!
We're taking a train to Rotterdam for The Theater Equation
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@BartekBanachewicz good luck
@LucDanton Doesn't sound phonetically sound. Needs a phonetic bridge (name?), I think.
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10:19
rotterdam train traffic is rekt today rt.com/news/315809-thalys-rotterdam-train-evacuation
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well maybe not anymore in the evening though
Ell
Ell
okay now I'm at uni I should be writing something to make me a millionaire, right?
@elyse what do you mean rekt
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@Ell no, that's capitalist
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10:21
@BartekBanachewicz i.e. no traffic at all
@ell you should crawl into a hole and cry
@elyse why's that?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Which part? I’m just adding '-phile', yielding consonant after vowel. I don’t think I understand.
@LucDanton Dunno, doesn't sound like a compound when spoken.
Ah, I think I know what it is.
It's the rounded vowel.
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he's tricking you into becoming robophile
10:24
I must admit I didn’t bother looking up the pronunciation of portemanteau.
I do it as in French (modulo R).
Might also be my problem.
Awesome answer (and comments), thanks. — Hans Malherbe 41 secs ago
d'aw
Seems it rhymes with 'auto' in some accents, and there’s 'autophile'. What do you think?
Yeah, it's not rounded in actual English pronunciation.
:S
@elyse. Uh. I hope they get back up and running in the evening
Just in case, how expensive is to rent a car there?
10:26
'auto' or 'autophile'?
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@LucDanton I meant "portmanteau" doesn't have rounded vowels in English, only French.
So, my mistake.
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Does .NET use read and write barriers for all reads and writes to references?
10:37
Only volatiles.
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Hmm.
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I should read more about concurrent GCs then.
@elyse wth
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I'm gonna write a concurrent GC this weekend.
@elyse Impressive ahahaha
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10:46
> The stack map consists of the location and identity of each GC root in the each function in the module.
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nice
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then I don't to emit function calls for registereing each root
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instead I can loop over the call stack using this information
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for finding roots
Eh, it still hurts when I try to eat :(
10:51
what happened?
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very very nice
@JohanLarsson I got my widsom teeth removed a few days ago.
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gotta love how Doxygen lists bool and int and unsigned
@elyse No but they are guaranteed to be atomic
10:57
I've just been working with the PS4 controller, I've never really thought about the precision they offer, especially with the analog sticks and the triggers.
Still can't aim for shit, but perfect for many other stuffs.

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