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10:00 PM
Well, as if my idea from last night wasn't bad enough, I thought of a way to extend it.
Named macro parameters with defaults.
 
Pfft what
GW2 is p neat
 
also any gog game that uses dosbox runs on linux
really there are so many awesome games that run on linux
that are NOT on steam
I feel it's a waste to search for linux games only on steam
gah, I hate how difficulty in old FPS games was usually achieved
 
@BartekBanachewicz not scared, just skeptical
 
I tried to play MoH AA on max diff, but it's so cheap it's frustrating
 
Oh god MoH
 
10:03 PM
yeah I get the hardware stuff back then made it not worth it to invest time and resources in advanced AI
 
I forgot that exists
 
well, let's face it, "Linux" and "games" go together like Jews and poison gas.
 
but damn, the only thing that makes this game really difficult is the fact that enemies have 100% accuracy in the millisecond they spot you
 
@CatPlusPlus oh now really
 
10:05 PM
the only AI that made my life miserable and I still felt like I was playing a fair game was FEAR's AI
 
Ell
I wonder if kyrostat will happen anyway
 
no
 
Ell
And I wonder if I should put my terrible terrible loungecpp repo on github
Or will I be mocked by you guys?
 
it's all equally bad
 
you will be regardless of what decision you make
 
Ell
10:06 PM
That's true. I think I'll wait until I think of a new name
Postduif was rightfolds name
 
Butts
Can't go wrong with butts
 
@Ell lol
 
Ell
But pidgin already exists so there is no logo :P
And the logo is the best bit about making a programme
Oh I have a fun name
 
LoungeButt?
ButtLounge?
ButtLoungeButt?
 
Ell
It will be revealed tomorrow when I make the github repo
And rename everything and commit
And push
 
10:10 PM
how hard will you push?
 
Ell
Just enough that it enters the ether
 
it's been 8 years since the PS3 was first released
such a long time between generations
 
it's not that surprising since the cost of launching a new generation has gone up substantially.
so much it practically ruined all profit from the previous generation unless you're Nintendo.
 
does nintendo get new fans anymore?
 
user1804599
> Error: ICE
 
user1804599
10:22 PM
Well fuck.
 
all I see from them is mario and zelda recycling, and I think younger gamers tend to focus more on titles on PS3 and XBox, and leave nintendo to old fans
mario's longevity is insane
 
Nintendo's problem right now isn't games, it's hardware.
 
they put out hardware they don't know how to use.
and they put it out before they had any software to run on it.
they'll get stronger when their usual lineup hits, but this is them learning the same lessons Sony learned for PS3
don't put out funky hardware you don't have compelling software for
and Microsoft bit the same bullet with Kinect this cycle.
expensive hardware, no software.
 
user1804599
Woo.
 
10:31 PM
Sony just got there first by biting that bullet last generation instead of this one.
 
user1804599
class Person { fn print() { console.log(dynamicthis.constructor); } } val person = new Person(); person.print(); compiles and runs perfectly.
 
Ell
Darn I missed the tumblr raid
Internet wars are fun
 
@Ell the "tumblr raid"?
 
user1804599
@AlexM. The Mario game I enjoyed least was Super Mario Sunshine and even that one was an insanely fun game.
 
@Puppy might also add the hardware is weaker than its competitors'
 
10:38 PM
nah
you can easily counteract that with some good software and a lower price.
they did it last generation
 
I looked at some Wii MW3 vids on youtube
it looks way worse than those on PS3 and X 360
 
doesn't matter.
it's clear enough to see what's going on, and like I said, a lower price can easily justify to people a little worse graphics.
 
The Wii has like 75 MB of RAM.
 
the simple fact is, the age of a graphical edge being a dominant factor was a decade ago.
 
if you want to see good looking Wii games you'd have to see the first party games :v
 
10:40 PM
there probably hasn't been a game whose compelling graphics shifted a single copy since Crysis.
and even that was pretty novel at the time.
 
aw man
 
user1804599
I enjoyed many Wii games regardless of their graphics.
 
I leave for a bit and we're doing Nintendo sucks chat.
 
a Wii costs $25 less than a 12GB PS3
 
user1804599
Nintendo owns.
 
10:41 PM
people are more than willing to have lower fidelity graphical experiences for a lower price.
calling them subpar isn't even accurate because you can have great graphics at low fidelity if you have strong art and a good direction.
 
user1804599
My favourite Wii game is Metroid Prime 3: Corruption and I should play it this weekend.
 
Ell
@filip 4chan filled the feminism tag with gore porn
 
@AlexM. Yes.
@AlexM. No.
@AlexM. The Wii still managed to sell more.
 
@Ell oh snap, that could've been exciting
 
user1804599
How do actors cry.
 
10:43 PM
Acting.
 
user3010322
Some of them get kicked in the balls.
 
@Rapptz irrelevant though
 
user3010322
And then limp back on tsage.
 
user1804599
Do they use lots of onions?
 
@AlexM. lol what
 
10:44 PM
my point was how many !old nintendo users say "I'm going to skip Xbone and PS4 and get a Wii U instead"
 
user3010322
@AlexM. It's completely relevant, because by definition it means that people who do not have an Xbox 360 or a PS3 had a Wii.
 
like, how many new people they usually get
 
none, because Nintendo have no compelling software this cycle.
 
like, when the nintendo guy announced the new star fox
 
10:45 PM
@Rapptz zing
 
everyone was like HOLY SHIT AWESOME
A NEW STAR FOX
 
and they didn't push hardware for price, they pushed some novel features instead and nobody knows how to use them to produce compelling software.
 
@rightfold Sometimes they use a chemical to promote crying, but good actors don't need it.
 
but that only reinforced my idea that a lot of nintnedo's customers are die hard fans
who were with them since N64 or earlier
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit OIC.
 
10:45 PM
@Puppy Mario Kart 8?
 
user3010322
As for PS4/Xbone/WiiU, the consoles are not at the end of life and the big software titles for WiiU have not hit shelves yet.
 
My only protip is to disregard anything Puppy says w.r.t. Nintendo
 
user3010322
I can bet that Mario Kart 8 alone, however, probably grossed more than most other titles could have imagined.
 
@AlexM. My only data point is that after E3 a lot of people from the internet decided to buy a Wii U.
 
so yeah that was my initial thought
 
if the generation that played N64 or earlier nintendo titles suddenly disappeared
 
I saw a plethora of posts on /r/gaming, /v/ and other related gaming "forums" where people were impressed by Nintendo's performance enough to buy their console.
 
would nintendo be able to survive against sony and microsoft
 
Yes.
 
Ell
I've played Mario kart 8
 
10:47 PM
Jesus man.
 
okay, I got it
 
@EtiennedeMartel Those numbers aren't enough.
 
user1804599
Speaking of Nintendo.
 
> As of June 14, Wii U’s global install base is at 6.4 million. The Xbox One is at 4.6 million and the PS4 is at 8.1 million.
 
user1804599
I should play The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass as well.
 
user3010322
10:47 PM
> Since the release of “Mario Kart 8,” the Wii U has outsold the Xbox One.
 
user3010322
"Can Nintendo survive" jesus.
 
But sure, I'm guessing you just want Nintendo to fail, so they'll never be good enough for you.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah, so it's gonna take a lot more than a couple hundred thousand extra units to make up that difference.
@EtiennedeMartel What, me?
 
@Puppy What difference?
 
10:49 PM
I don't really care if Nintendo does or does not fail, insofar as I have any stake at all it's on their side.
the N64 was a great console, I loved it, and I like that they don't push graphics hardcore.
 
@ThePhD yeah I got the point
 
@Puppy The N64 was a shit console that had a few spectacular games on it.
 
The best selling game of this generation is New Super Mario Bros U. with 4.16m copies sold.
 
the difference between being a great console and being a shit console with great games is quite theoretical.
 
(I just learned this right now)
The best selling PS4 game is KillZone with 2.1m
 
user3010322
10:50 PM
The console itself never mattered unless it was an absolutely hell-hole to develop for (Virtual Boy).
 
user3010322
The only thing that matters is if it has great games.
 
user3010322
If great games show up, people follow.
 
user3010322
That's how it has always worked.
 
Mario Kart 8 has somewhere around >2m too
 
PS had some great games, like MGS
 
10:51 PM
People eat Nintendo games up.
 
I'm pretty sure Nintendo's doing fine.
 
I'm looking forward to the frenzy that's gonna surround the next Zelda in 2015.
 
this was a good anime
 
I mean, I think that Nintendo can come out ahead of Microsoft here because Microsoft made the same mistake, but don't have solid first-party software to back it up.
 
So, yeah. Nintendo is sitting on a huge stack of cash, they have the PR momentum, and they have a rabid fanbase.
 
10:53 PM
PR momentum can change.
 
Anything can change.
 
@AlexM. yep
 
related
 
I only have a vague memory of this, but isn't it also true that Sony actually makes profit selling their hardware, and both Nintendo and Microsoft take a loss?
 
no
everyone sells hardware at loss
it's the software that makes profit
 
10:54 PM
> Nintendo Investor Says “I Do Not Understand Video Games”

I do not understand video games and I even feel angry because, at Nintendo’s shareholders’ meetings, the shareholders always discuss things relating to video games or such childish topics as “what the future of video games should be,” while I, for one, was flabbergasted that Mr. Iwata continues to hold his position although he had said that he would resign if the company’s performance were bad*.
 
not this cycle.
 
But, then again, I don't think anything will make you change your mind.
 
this cycle included.
 
user3010322
(Except the Wii?)
 
Sony makes a profit on the PS4.
 
@AlexM. That was before E3.
 
user3010322
Everyone sure changed tunes after E3.
 
At E3, Nintendo showed everyone how you can unfuck yourself up.
 
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Q: Taking screenshot of a specific window from a machine that is connected viaremote desktop

Mert OvnIs it possible to take a screenshot of a specific window from a machine that is connected via remote desktop? It can be done with ctrl+alt+minus hotkey when the window is selected, but how can I implement this function into my c++ program?

 
> The PlayStation 4 is already profitable for Sony on a hardware unit basis, president and CEO Kazuo Hirai announced during its corporate strategy meeting this week.
 
10:55 PM
Sony With the PS4 releasing this November for 399$, being 100$ cheaper than its rival, the Xbox One, many have wondered if Sony would have profit from the PS4's release. According to what Eurogamer has heard from well-placed sources, Sony is expecting a $60 loss on each PS4 sold. This was quickly denied by Masayasu Ito, Sony Japan's executive.
According to Ito, Sony will be making profit from the moment users buy PlayStation Plus subscriptions and games. Ito also added that even without the purchase of games, the PS4 will incur a profit at a sooner point than PS3.
 
Honestly, I've been pretty critical of them, but man, I'm starting to think of getting a Wii U when the next Zelda comes out.
 
user3010322
Meh. If it has a harp I'm not going to bother.
 
I did a quick Googling and it seems like they are making a profit now on the hardware itself but haven't necessarily been for the whole cycle.
 
user3010322
Sony has a lot of vertical integration, since it controls some hardware.
 
10:57 PM
Anyway, consoles are sold at a loss because you want everyone to have one so that you can start making profits on the software.
 
user3010322
So it can sell cheaper than Microsoft and make a profit sooner.
 
I'm sure the situation may be different in the US for example, but in Romania, there's no real reason to pick a Wii over a PS3, especially when the available games in stores look like this
 
3 mins ago, by Etienne de Martel
But, then again, I don't think anything will make you change your mind.
 
that's 249 PS3 games vs 26 Wii games
 
@AlexM. what the hell did I just watch
 
10:57 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Why are you quite so confident about that? I don't have any stake in the console race.
 
Ell
Pc master race
 
Nintendo no longer sells Wii U at a loss either apparently.
 
@Puppy I don't either. But no matter what we show you, you just ignore it.
 
Ell
I wish I enjoyed games more
 
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user3010322
10:58 PM
Nintendo doesn't have vertical integration, but they're not pushing the Hardware envelope.
 
user3010322
So they can also make a profit sooner.
 
user3010322
Microsoft is the biggest loser of all 3, as far as I undertstand it.
 
Ell
I wonder if we'll get handheld consoles again. I guess people just use their phone but it seems a different kind of gaming
 
@Ell now that I saw the $200 PS3 on which I could just plug my laptop's hard drive
 
user3010322
They push the hardware envelope. But, it's easier to dev for them because they control the software stack pretty rigorously.
 
10:59 PM
@Ell 3DS and Vita...
 
I'm probably the only one here whose most anticipated Wii U game is the Xenoblade "sequel"
 
I'm not so sure I want the $700 upgrade to my PC anymore
 
The Vita is doing pretty poorly though.
 
@EtiennedeMartel The only thing I've seen you show that was even somewhat compelling still said that despite being out for substantially less time and Nintendo bringing out one of their biggest first-party guns, Sony had a 25% bigger install base than Nintendo.
 
3DS is doing pretty good.
 
Ell
10:59 PM
They were before smartphones weren't they?
 
...?
 

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