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11:00 PM
Smartphones have been around for nearly a decade.
 
user3010322
No, Smartphones existed since before 3DS and Vita.
 
before the iPhone
fix that
 
@Puppy Give 'em time. As far as everyone is concerned, the Wii U really came out a month ago.
 
Ell
Before smartphones became popular? I don't have a fucking clue what I'm talking about so I'll be quiet :L
 
Just like the Xbox One really came out with Titanfall's release.
 
11:00 PM
@Ell you meant to say before people played more games on their phones than on portable consoles
 
Ell
Right :)
 
I still don't know why people buy PS4s. Are there any decent games on there that isn't already on another platform?
 
i.e. before app stores and stuff which were undoubtedly massively popularized by apple with their iPhone
 
user3010322
PS4 got rid of its DLNA servers...
 
user3010322
I can't imagine what else to do with a PS4 since I can't set up a massive media hub with it.
 
11:01 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Not yet.
 
@AlexM. Most of those, though, are not really console gamers.
 
@Rapptz So, do people just buy them because Reddit's Hive Mind decided it wasn't as bad as the Xbox One?
 
as near as I can tell, the freemium market and the regular market don't tend to involve many of the same people
 
The only game that compelled me to get a PS4 is LBP3.
But it's still not really enough to get me to buy one.
 
@EtiennedeMartel The lower price tag did that, I feel.
 
11:02 PM
My brother ended up getting one anyway :|
 
user3010322
Pixel Junk Monsters and Super Stardust HD. :D
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah essentially.
 
@Puppy Our sales data sure seem to point in that direction.
 
user3010322
Were the primary reasons I played on a PS3.
 
11:02 PM
@EtiennedeMartel What, supporting or disagreeing with me?
 
this is Modern Combat 4 on mobiles
 
@AlexM. you lot are into some weird shit
 
it looks pretty amazing
 
@Puppy I agree with you if what you say is true.
(hihihi)
 
okay, just saying that your phrasing was pretty ambiguous.
 
11:03 PM
The 3DS is doing pretty well.
Despite the phone market.
42.74m sold as of 2013.
 
but just to expand on my point (which I'm glad you agree with), it seems to me like freemium attracts many new gamers but doesn't seem to convert many previous players- they create a new market rather than competing.
 
I don't think people are understanding my question, I shouldn't be getting downvotes... How can I clarify? If I use cheatengine, I get the excpected value. if I use memcpy with that same address, i get really odd values. I have my dll injected into the process. Is there a different function i should be using than memcpy? Or am I using memcpy wrong? I though i was in the same address space as the game, so i coudl easily read/write directly? — user1944429 21 mins ago
 
user3010322
https://
 
this guy wonders why he's getting downvotes...
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit that's pretty tame
 
11:04 PM
@AlexM. You're all about the looks, aren't you?
 
@Puppy I can't say I don't care about them :(
 
@ThePhD thanks... I was wondering why it wasn't working
 
my perception of the phone market is that they're competing to be the most ruthlessly addictive Bejeweled knockoff they can be.
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lies
hm, 1am. I might want to sleep.
 
there's no interesting gameplay innovation, the controls are shit, and the models are deceptive (Dungeon Keeper being more extreme than most, but I feel not fundamentally different).
 
this was another great story with probably the best characters I've seen so far in an anime
is a Japanese mystery novel by Honobu Yonezawa. It is the first volume of the series. Four additional volumes have been published between 2002 and 2010. A manga adaptation drawn by Task Ohna began serialization in the March 2012 issue of Kadokawa Shoten's Shōnen Ace. A 22-episode anime adaptation produced by Kyoto Animation and directed by Yasuhiro Takemoto aired from April 22 to September 16, 2012. Plot At the request of his older sister, student Hōtarō Oreki joins Kamiyama High School's Classic Literature Club to stop it from being abolished, joined by fellow members Eru Chitand...
funny thing is, the best part of the story is not told by either of the main characters
 
@Puppy If you recall, my employer makes freemium games, and that's what we're seeing.
 
yes, I figured you might have a more informed viewpoint.
 
it deals with some issues that many can relate to, among which is how self-degrading it is to live around others better than you and to keep on being compared to them
 
the really sad thing is
my phone's broken and I really can't afford to replace it with anything nice.
 
11:07 PM
@Puppy yeah I was mostly highlighting the fact that the hardware is capable of outputting great visuals
 
even if I buy a cheap Android it'll still be a massive slice of my monthly income.
@AlexM. People haven't sold hardware on great visuals to the market in general for a decade, at least.
 
user3010322
... My intersection tests started failing again.
 
user3010322
What the hell happened.
 
a tablet outputting those graphics to a TV while linked to some peripherals could replace a console
 
user3010322
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED.
 
11:08 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit that's actually sfw
really are you amazed by this? O_o
 
still
IYAM the most interesting gaming segment is still indie gaming on PCs.
 
it's like among the most normal animes in the world wth
 
@AlexM. not really
@AlexM. seems a bit child porny
i'm not comparing it to any other animes. it's an absolute judgement
 
user3010322
Most anime has some form of fanservice.
 
I don't remember any such scenes in the anime
it really barely ever dealt with anything sexual in nature
 
user3010322
11:10 PM
What bugs me, though, is that a lot of animes are about people below the age of 16 or 18... and it's still portrayed like this.
 
user3010322
And even sometimes younger, like 12 and 14.
 
99% of it was about a high school student hating people
 
it's a natural byproduct of the fact that we treat children like slaves.
and incompetently too.
if you're old enough to be criminally liable, you should be old enough to vote.
 
@AlexM. the video posted above has an entire cut dedicated to trying to get an upskirt of a school girl. and the conversation they have ends in her talking about whether or not she's a virgin.
 
user3010322
If you're old enough to die for your country, you're old enough to drink.
 
11:11 PM
@ThePhD I don't know the age of any of the characters I saw so far
 
I can only imagine what Puppy thinks of dying for ones country, since he does not believe that cultural identity exists
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit yes, and that vid is like 0.something% of the duration of the whole anime
as @ThePhD said, all anime have some form of fanservice
 
@AlexM. Oh, so if the child porn is only for a few seconds, that's okay.
lol "fanservice"
interesting rationalisation
 
what child porn
there was no child porn there
 
user3010322
LRIO's characterization is pretty far over the top.
 
11:13 PM
if you're going to try to justify a scene dedicated to sexualising a young schoolgirl for the entertainment (or "fanservice") of adult males, then there's nothing I can do to show you the error of your ways. it's usually a genetic or birth defect
 
user3010322
But it is accurate to say there's sexualization of underage characters happening.
 
art on google images of those two female characters is like the two of them snogging and one of them almost fingering herself, but I imagine that's fanart
 
I only saw a dialogue between high school students which happened to deal with sexual topics :\
I didn't see any child porn
 
just goes to show what sort of sickos watch this stuff, though
anyway, brb fap
JK
@AlexM. omg they've got you! you're desensitised! you don't even see it happening any more! nooooo!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Cultural identity is not required in this instance.
 
11:16 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit r34 applies to anything tho
 
not only anime
but hey I don't deny that I might be taking this too lightly
 
Ell
They're drawn anyway, no victims :3
 
user1804599
Lounge<C++> rule 34.
 
you can watch haiyore for lots of allusions to sex that seems to involve underage girls but doesn't actually involve underage girls because they're thousands of years old
 
Xeo
11:19 PM
.... youtube continues playing the vid again after the tab is closed
whyyy
 
user1804599
@Xeo @Mysticial fucked up again.
 
damnit mysticial
@rightfold it would contain lots of fanart of your private parts
 
@Puppy I think if you're going to give up your entire life for your culture, you'd probably want to identify with it in some manner first.
 
user1804599
@AlexM. They’re not private.
 
user1804599
We’re friends!
 
11:20 PM
oh sorry, I forgot
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You might also want to actually live in a place of that culture first. If you're a white Christian soldier and you want to give up your life for white Christians, then I've got an unfortunate newsflash about being in the Army, which is that it also benefits white non-Christians and black Muslims too.
 
user3010322
... @_______@
 
user3010322
Well it's passing again
 
user3010322
I can't be too angry.
 
user1804599
> Beheading tweet ISIS is frowned upon
 
11:22 PM
shit tho @LightnessRacesinOrbit that wallpaper is hot as fuck
 
any soldier in the British Army will be called upon to sacrifice his life for the benefit of every British person, regardless of whether or not they share his culture.
 
@Puppy What the hell?
 
it could never work on any other basis.
 
@AlexM. ... paedo
 
it's okay, it's just my body that has aged
 
11:23 PM
what the fuck is a "White Christian soldier"
 
my mind is still that of a teenager
 
er
 
ITT Puppy KKK
 
Ell
I still have no idea why people join the army
 
my capslock is on the fritz.
 
Ell
11:23 PM
And voluntarily murder, for the sake of "saving their country" or whatever
 
@Ell lads lads lads
 
@Ell because they're forced to?
 
@Ell Money and some dumb things like patriotism
 
very few countries have conscription now
 
user3010322
Singapore still has conscription I believe.
 
11:24 PM
And inevitably a % just to shoot people
 
@Ell It's a simple majority-benefit, people choose to give up for the benefit of the majority, and they do it because we evolved that ability because it aids our survival.
 
so my evening of catch-up work followed by an early night has gone well so far. 00:23 and not a single bit of work done.
 
most soldiers here join the army because there's no other way for them to earn enough money to raise their children
and during wars...
 
@Puppy How does it aid your survival to volunteer to die?
 
plus there are always people who sign on because they can't get another job
 
user3010322
11:25 PM
^ That too.
 
if it's a war and you're forced to enroll and you don't, you're arrested
taken to prison as a traitor
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Even if you, personally, die, if you ensure the survival of your relatives, you can still propagate your genes indirectly.
 
then still sent to war in the first line, in the disciplinary battalion
 
then ask yourself this
why hasn't humanity evolved out homosexuality?
 
11:25 PM
@Puppy I don't see how that's helpful. The genes being passed on are those of the people who didn't go to fight.
 
plus the chances of you dying today are small
 
it's a pretty evolutionary no-brainer that homosexuals don't reproduce like heterosexuals do.
 
i'll flag your answer in a minute — user3803421 20 secs ago
lol
 
@Puppy It sounds like you do not understand evolution. That's the sort of thing a creationist would say.
 
but homosexuality isn't just here, it's rampant.
 
11:26 PM
So what?
 
@AaronKyleKilleen it's a greater chance to die by staying home
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yes, but they only are passed on if a proportion of them die. Else, they lose the fight and they all die.
 
Xeo
@Jefffrey I hope he actually does the correct thing, instead of hitting "flag" :D
 
I will laugh.
 
11:27 PM
@Xeo me too
 
Too much derp. Bbiab before I get sucked into the vortex
 
If you never leave home the probability of you dying in your home is 100%!
 
no, I meant in the case of war and if you lived in an important city
 
@AlexM. well in some cases, parts of Chicago during the 1990's crack epidemic had a higher death toll for young black men than soldiers on duty in Afghanistan
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Oh shit, I'll have to get out more then!
 
11:28 PM
probably everything some country like Russia had to do to stop Romania from fighting in a war would be to nuke Bucharest and/or Cluj
 
Xeo
But first, I'll have to sleep.
g'night
 
night
 
Well, that minute is long past.
 
at least you die quickly
 
gg Jeffrey's answer.
 
11:29 PM
I think he really flagged it.
3
 
@Jefffrey You have to wonder what it would be flagged for.
Or how he'd not see that everything had to do with it being bad.
 
I'll head to the flag review queue.
 
Oh hey it has a checkmark
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I kind of agree with you about anime, from a cultural standpoint I don't think it's something a grown man should spend his time doing.
 
phew
 
11:31 PM
'cultural standpoint'
what's that supposed to mean?
 
@AlexM. it's kind of like Nascar, from a cultural standpoint I don't get it/think it's trashy
@AlexM. it's kind of an opinion about how culture
 
gosh
I just remembered a class I took at school
Music Appreciation
 
so like, nascar as culture < other cultures?
 
you lay on the floor and they played some shitty classical music, then you wrote down in a book what it made you think of.
 
@AlexM. yeah
 
11:34 PM
amazingly, it was still possible to fail this class.
and I did once.
 
I used to talk to my music teacher about classical pieces I enjoyed
 
@puppy that sounds like bullshit,I mean classical music is good but that shouldn't be a class
 
she was the best teacher I've had, aside from my chemistry teacher
 
of course it's bullshit, it's Western education, which is primarily notable for being better than staring at a rock all day.
 
@puppy I once had a "biology" class called environmental biology, it was a bunch of bullshit environmentalist ideology, we actually read a fictional novel Ishmael and were required to write a book report on it
 
11:35 PM
I appreciated the music teacher's ability to hold neutral discussions with me about different topics
and I appreciated the chemistry's teacher ability to only do what she had to do: teach. nothing more, nothing less
 
@Puppy the novel had nothing to do with science at all
 
I did not appreciate my literature and programming teachers' need to fucking ADOPT ME and get under my skin
do your fucking job
I don't want to be your friend
how hard could that have been to get?
 
Hmm, how is this still open?
 
@AaronKyleKilleen I don't really care much about cultural things tbh
I like what I like
 
Does anybody recal the fastest opengl type for a texture on a desktop platform?
 
11:38 PM
@Puppy I guess I like to think that it's not truly Western and that it's been corrupted by anti-western lefties of the kind who think cans of feces are art masterpieces worth >$100k
@Mikhail you men UV coordinates?
 
@AaronKyleKilleen It could be, if you had the right can of the right feces in the right context.
 
I don't understand what's wrong with classical music in schools though
or is that not what AKK thinks it's wrong?
 
@AlexM. It's a total waste of time for all concerned.
 
@Puppy well I don't believe there is any feces or any context that is an art masterpiece and I think anyone who is seriously inspired by it has a mental disorder
 
the proportion of the population who can make successful careers out of classical music is quite limited.
 
11:40 PM
many things are actually, and I think classical music is the least time wasting thing that one has to do in school
 
No its stupider then that. I got a `glTexImage2D(GL_TEXTURE_2D,0,GL_R32F, // optimizing here...
widthGL,heightGL, 0, GL_RED, GL_FLOAT,0);`
 
@AlexM. I completely agree that many things are.
 
I'd love to get back the huge amounts of time I invested studying biology
I didn't really invest much effort in music
 
@AlexM. it's not classical music it's laying down listening to it and writing about it that sounds like BS, if you want to study history or music theory go ahead, what he described sounds like hippy dippy bullshit
 
@Puppy Uh, like, musicians or somethin
 
11:43 PM
@AaronKyleKilleen it's not really bullshit, as different people can associate different melodies with different things
yes it's a waste of time if you're not interested
no, it's not a big enough waste of time to complain that much about it
 
it's a waste of time anyway.
@AlexM. Considering that other people are forced to pay for this, then yes, it is.,
 
@Mikhail you mean which function should you use? supposedly if you store it with gl::TexStorage2D it will be immutable and opengl can make assumptions about it when optimizing. you then need to use the subimage function to specify more information about it
@Mikhail so unless you're going to change it a lot don't use the glteximage function
 
@AaronKyleKilleen I change it at 60 hz :-)
 
@Puppy schooling is free here, no idea how people feel in other places
 
@Mikhail well I don't know to tell you the truth
 
11:45 PM
@AlexM. Er, schooling is not free at all. You have to pay taxes for it. Just because you don't literally sign a cheque every time you go in doesn't make it free.
 
@Mikhail but you have a program that was telling you that was unoptimal correct?
 
@AaronKyleKilleen Yes I need to squeeze the code to run 20% faster before I can go watch the fireworks
@AaronKyleKilleen I want to change the internal type to be uchars, that might help...
 
@mikhail internal type for the RGB yes uchars is what I would use
 
@AaronKyleKilleen The problem is that on certain platforms, like Apple's IOS crap gets converted from uchars to floating points internally which makes the optomization redundent..
 
@Puppy that's true
 
11:49 PM
@mikhail I'd still try the gltexstorage maybe it will still be faster if it's immutable
@Mikhail it can't hurt to try right
 
Why can't CppCon come sooner
 
@puppy cheque, I like that it reads fancier than check which is how we write it in 'murika
 
goddamn there are a shitton of awesome games on the PS3 now, and a lot of remade PS2 titles
I'm getting this console asap
 
@AlexM. Any in particular?
 
@AaronKyleKilleen how YOU write it maybe
 
11:53 PM
@chris from what I saw in Romania's biggest store I definitely want to get the first three DMCs that were remade
red dead redemption will probably be among the first I'll play
the prices are also low
like, crysis 3 is $15
 
@Mgetz that's how it's spelled in American English never in my life have I seen an American institution or organization deviate from it.
 
less expensive than on PC
 
Yeah that's always nice
 
I'd also like to try dark souls
 
@AaronKyleKilleen I've seen plenty of the big banks do it all the time
 
11:55 PM
@AlexM. I still haven't actually gotten around to trying to get through that.
 
that's amex and I have a VISA example lined up
 
@mgetz well congress has a bill in there called the "paycheck fairness act" beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-bill/84
 
user3010322
@AlexM. Let me know when you do. I have characters of all levels to play with you. :D
 
neat lol
 
@AaronKyleKilleen and?
 
11:59 PM
@mgetz well I'm just suggesting that check is much more common, I hadn't seen cheque used before I saw your examples I don't bank at the large banks
 

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