« first day (2113 days earlier)      last day (2829 days later) » 

8:02 AM
TL;DR english - people who have been sentenced in Poland are suddenly getting deported
people who didn't do anything after leaving prison, mind you
 
wow that's a borderline paranoia
I wonder if that was their goal
 
at least short term
I wonder when they realize that taking workforce away isn't good for the economy
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think I suddenly lost the ability to read.
 
mmm Raduga has already announced new beer
African Mango Wheat
sounds like a great thing for the summer
 
Xeo
Gah, Unreal and consistent naming...
RemoveChild(ptr), RemoveChildAt(index), ClearChildren()
why is it not RemoveAllChildren()
gah
 
8:12 AM
Then it would be too easy?
 
@Shoe It's pretty well used in the opening of the movie "Magnolia".
 
@Xeo our API would name it "ChildrenRemoveAll" because of a weird legacy to a previous Tcl/Tk implementation.
 
Xeo
oh gawd
 
ChildrenRemoveAllFreedom()
 
child erasure
 
8:13 AM
@Aaron3468 Awww... But true. :)
 
mmm I'm seriously concerned that my suitcase is a bit too heavy
oh wait, the limit is apparently 23 not 28 kg
derp
 
> The plan for 3.0 is to wait for the C++ Committee to get itself together and decide on a Reflection scheme, and then ship automatic bindings with that. 'Till then, things are more or less stable now from all feature requests.
@ThePhD so basically you decided to take 5+ years of holiday from Sol? :D
 
Let's hope it doesn't take them 5 years. ;;
 
@ThePhD hahahahhaha
 
C++18 pls
 
8:17 AM
hahahahahhahahahhahhahahahhahha
> C++ committee
> hope
 
words that don't come together?
 
@ThePhD ...you'd sing a different song if you were in the room during reflection SG meeting. :P
 
@BartekBanachewicz wait, Polish deported from the UK or British deported from Poland?
Either way. What. The. Fuck.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the former
 
Basically it's still in a deep design stage.
 
8:18 AM
That's not at all kosher
 
altough the latter might well come as retaliation
 
@Griwes Well... .shit.
 
Or is this not happening and merely being discussed?
 
C++18 sounds interesting, like C++ turns 18
 
@ThePhD Chandler's report on the meeting in the Oulu minutes explains it pretty well.
The discussion about typedefs was extremely long.
 
8:20 AM
@milleniumbug nah, it's just racism.
 
It took like half an hour of arguing what exists and what doesn't.
 
this is very much happening
> Mówiłem im: przecież ja się nie ukrywam; dajcie mi bransoletę, wypuśćcie do domu, wpłacę kaucję. A jak nie, dajcie chociaż 48 godzin. Pakuję się, kupuję bilet na prom i procesujemy się z Polski. Dlaczego mam przebywać w ośrodku dla uchodźców?!
> I told them - I'm not hiding from anything, give me a tracker, let me go home, I'll post the bail. And if not that, give me 48h to get back to Poland and settle from there. Why do I have to stay in a refugee camp?!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't think it's actually happening. Otherwise it should have been in the news.
 
from someone who has a job there, who's been living there for years
 
Honestly, I think it's time for C+=2
 
8:21 AM
The three years between 14 and 17 were not enough (for anything you'd really want to call a "major release").
 
I feel like PhD would be able to build a fantastic new language for us all to hate
 
Or did I misunderstand what you said?
 
@BartekBanachewicz it doesn't matter. You can live there as a homeless beggar.
 
apparently you can lose your staying rights if you're unemployed and not looking for a job
 
Er, lolwut.
 
8:22 AM
but for chrissake, this guy was a normal person.
He broke the law, got into prison, got out, and then went to the UK and led a normal life.
Deporting him out of sudden is just FUBAR.
 
@BartekBanachewicz that doesn't sound unreasonable
 
see above
I am gonna not move to the UK so hard.
 
That's a blatant violation of the agreements they have not rescinded yet.
 
London is kinda cool though.
 
Racist cunts.
 
Look me in the eye and tell me Brexit wasn't really about racism.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes to be fair, this seems to have already been happening
which doesn't make it any less bad of course
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's more nationalism than racism really.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I think so too.
 
I mean "race" is a dumb concept anyway but w/e.
 
@BartekBanachewicz big difference. Also hard to draw a line if being a non-white second-generation British citizen still gets you the wrong end of the stick.
 
8:26 AM
If you divided people into short and tall and call that "races" you'd be equally right/wrong.
 
@BartekBanachewicz right but that doesn't make racism go away.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I guess nationalism has always been about racism as well
I'd wager it's strictly worse.
Because it doesn't just base on genes, it bases on arbitrary land divisions.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I really struggle to find a historical example where some country with so-called "nationalist" didn't discriminate between nationals of different ethnic ancestry.
 
but... isn't that in line with what I said?
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's always been based on "this land is for whites/jews/arabs/chinese/whatever".
 
8:32 AM
jews are a race?
 
Often also "... and that land over there too"
@BartekBanachewicz Actually, being a Jew is hereditary.
If you're born of a Jewish mother, you're a Jew.
@BartekBanachewicz So in a way, yes.
 
In a sense, the Jewish are a race, but they vary much more than the traditional idea of race.
 
that whole racism thing is wrong
 
Experts have arrived.
 
color of skin, shape of scull - those don't matter
 
8:36 AM
Get your dictionaries out, kids.
 
but culture matters
 
That working Polish person that is being deported probably smiled too much. Not British enough for Parliament Britain.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes just a foreigner
this is nationalism - you prefer your citizens over citizens of other countries
 
15 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@BartekBanachewicz big difference. Also hard to draw a line if being a non-white second-generation British citizen still gets you the wrong end of the stick.
 
race, culture, etc has nothing to do with it
 
8:42 AM
Right, right.
 
as the very many reports of increased racist incidents after Brexit confirm
 
I'm taking notes.
It's not about people's names, or their looks, or what they do in the evenings. It's all about their passports.
@Abyx Also, lol, it only took you three messages to contradict yourself.
 
yeah. or where they put their money
@R.MartinhoFernandes not at all
 
I'm listening.
 
brexit happened because people want their own country
 
8:45 AM
god I got into anti vaccine thread by accident
 
just an anti-globalism
 
@Abyx OH HOLY FUCK GOT INTO BIGOTRY THREAD NOW
what the hell internet
 
@Abyx Brexit happened because people did not understand their choice (and because it rained in London). (I don't intend to engage in this argument much further.)
 
@Abyx IOW a person who got a job there and peacefully lived there is suddenly not a "culture fit"?
That's a barely acceptable reason on an job interview, but hell fucking not for deporting someone
 
@BartekBanachewicz like I said, brexit is not about cultural differences
britain is already a multi-cultural country
 
8:48 AM
@Abyx No - it's about growing nationalism (and we all know where that ultimately leads).
 
@Griwes where?
 
@Abyx Remember the Third Reich?
 
Nationalism is dumb hth.
 
@Griwes yeah, so? it's anecdotal evidence. nationalism can lead anywhere
 
It only has a pejorative meaning.
@Abyx like where?
 
nwp
8:50 AM
a "separated but equal" society
 
Where can nationalism that's constantly increasing lead to, if not a police state tyranny?
 
@Abyx You need to watch the world more closely - we are already way too close to Nazism than I'm comfortable with (and it's true in a great part of the world).
 
To a nation of hate and prejudice?
 
@nwp ugh no. why'd you separate your own people
 
because they don't have blond hair and blue eyes
 
8:51 AM
@BartekBanachewicz yeah, it's fine to hate your neighbors
 
...
I don't even
why don't you run them by time to time to steal their crops and rape their women while we're at it
since we're back to medieval ages already
 
@BartekBanachewicz what, you love your neighbor next door? many people would hate
 
@Abyx ಠ_ಠ
You should feel judged.
 
@Abyx sure, my neighbours are great
 
nwp
@Abyx why separate your own people? It's your people vs the rest
 
8:52 AM
(Because I'm judging you right now, and not in a positive way.)
 
@Abyx I hate idiots on the internet spewing hateful bullshit way more FWIW
 
well anyways, the word "nationalism" has only "nation" in it. no "race" or anything else
 
Xeo
@Griwes Just now?
 
nwp
@Abyx and social nationalism is even social!
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh and now you hate me. that's normal
 
8:54 AM
@Xeo No - right now :P
 
@nwp well duh. Nazi even did some social stuff at beginning.
 
24 mins ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
@BartekBanachewicz I really struggle to find a historical example where some country with so-called "nationalist" didn't discriminate between nationals of different ethnic ancestry.
please provide counterexamples
 
@BartekBanachewicz United States
 
@Abyx Native Americans.
Next!
 
8:56 AM
are you saying that united states don't discriminate against people of colour
 
quite a shithole by US are nationalists
 
are you really, really just saying that
 
Black people. Next!
People of Spanish ancestry. Next!
 
@BartekBanachewicz that's their internal stuff.
 
Like, seriously man.
 
8:57 AM
@Abyx what
 
@Abyx ahahahahhahahahahahahhhhahhahhahhaahahahahahhahahahahahhahhahhhhhhaahahhaah
 
you both should see my face now
of course it's their internal stuff. That's what nationalism is
It's about wanting everyone else out of your sandbox
 
well they do discriminate against latino people because they're like foreigners to them
 
yes and black people totally appeared there out of the blue
they are not foreigners at all
 
because of Mexico near their border. But blacks are totally their people
even the president is black
 
8:58 AM
@Abyx Everybody in the US, except for Native Americans, is a foreigner in the US.
 
@Abyx ask us nationalists if they agree with that
@Abyx yes, take one isolated example to counter all racism in the US ever
 
@Abyx ...yes, and rednecks totally love him. /s
like, how can you be this blind to this obvious problem
 
@Griwes dunno but he got voted into presidency
 
the point is that people who feel "their land" should be "theirs" want everyone else out
 
@Abyx And that totally means that rednecks live him! /s
 
8:59 AM
and it so happens that typically that's other races first
@Abyx which leaves us with a good half of the society that didn't vote for him
 
Funny how Abyx dropped the "tu quoque" game
"And you are lynching Negroes" (Russian: "А у вас негров линчуют", A u vas negrov linchuyut, "And at your place, they are lynching Negroes") and the later "And you are hanging blacks" (Russian: "А у вас негров вешают") are anecdotal counter-argument catchphrases, which epitomize the arguments used by the Soviet Union in response to allegations that it had violated human rights and other criticisms. Use of the phrase refers to such attempts to deflect criticism, e.g. by referencing racial discrimination and lynching in the United States. The Soviet media frequently covered stories of racial ...
I'm gonna grab more white popcorn, hang on
 
@Abyx He got 10M more votes the first time and 5M votes the second time.
 
Nationalists are almost never a majority
and thank Zeus for that
 
@Abyx Looking at the maps of the electoral votes here for 2008 and here for 2012 should make you understand what I'm talking about.
 
Not the case here, alas
Most people in ČR are dull xenophobes
You should read the facebook threads
So much cancer
 
9:03 AM
No thank you.
 
@AndyProwl that's because they're more vocal
 
I'm seeing enough cancer in Polish facebook threads.
 
we've already been there
smart people typically know better than to get into facebook shitposts
so you're left with the worst
 
I'm not saying facebook is the only source
I see this around myself too
 
I'm not saying that either
It applies everywhere
 
9:04 AM
but Facebook threads are there to stay
words are harder to report
 
At the very least, ONR's and Artur Zawisza's accounts were removed from facebook.
So there's slightly more sanity on the Polish side of FB.
 
Also in spite of what I've read there doesn't seem to be a correlation with level of education, at least here
 
There's a correlation with how much people have traveled in their lives.
 
Not even that, trust me, not here
 
I'm inclined to say that there's even some slight causation there.
@AndyProwl I mean abroad. :P And I don't mean traveling on all-inclusive trips. :P
 
9:07 AM
I have smart colleagues who have traveled and worked abroad and still think UK did the right thing, and wish CR would do the same
 
Have they traveled and met people instead of just traveling and working?
 
mourning over gorillas who got shot but slamming the door in front of war refugees because "we're gonna be worse off"
or "they're gonna rape our women"
and so on
@Griwes Yes, definitely
 
Weird. :P
I've found that that usually opens one's eyes to reality.
 
nwp
even puppy considers nuking syria, and not as a joke either
scary stuff
 
@AndyProwl surprise, people have different opinions
 
9:09 AM
wisdom++
 
Let's nuke everybody.
The Earth will take a while to recover, but it eventually will.
And in a better shape!
 
the biggest killing spree I remember of here was caused two years ago by an American psycho who entered a mall and started shooting people, just like they do in the US
but nobody claimed US citizens should be kept out of here
 
nukes are not ecological
 
34 secs ago, by Griwes
The Earth will take a while to recover, but it eventually will.
 
no Syrian refugee ever killed anyone but nope, they're dangerous
well, at least not here
 
9:11 AM
@AndyProwl really?
 
nwp
I want to make a campaign against opinions and feelings. I feel like they are usually wrong.
 
35 secs ago, by Andy Prowl
well, at least not here
dunno elsewhere
also people keep cherry-picking news
 
@Abyx Most of the people killing people for ISIS are either locals or legal visitors.
 
ignoring all local murderers and criminals in general
focusing on the foreigners only, especially if muslims
 
For example, the guys who killed the priest in France recently were French, if I remember the report correctly.
 
9:13 AM
@Griwes uhm, refugees are not legal?
 
@Abyx You know exactly what I mean, stop nitpicking.
 
if I want to bomb people, do you think having to get a plane ticket will stop me?
 
> Petitjean, from a town in eastern France, had been on a watch list as a potential security threat since June after trying to enter Syria from Turkey.
That's the second identified guy.
A French guy.
But no, let's not let refugees in.
 
@Griwes a North Algerian guy
 
(Great job playing from the terrorists book, asshole.)
 
9:15 AM
that's proper name for France
 
Ven
hi
 
@Abyx Whatever the fuck you mean. Either way, as I said, great job doing what ISIS wants (i.e. doing everything to push all the migrants back into the war-covered part of the world, where they can easily kill them). But, whatever floats your goat, man. vOv
 
@Griwes lolwut
"push all the migrants into the war-covered part of the world" - they came from there
 
Refugees escape from ISIS and war. Does this help
 
@Abyx better now, asshole?
 
9:19 AM
and do you remember who started all those wars in Africa and Middle east?
 
@Griwes Kill them? After being scorned by the West, they should be easier to recruit.
 
who destroyed Libia and who feed moderate terrorists in Syria?
 
Ven
@Griwes uh, in case you hadn't noticed previously, @abyx has a racism problem..
 
@Abyx all those wars?
 
Ven
@milleniumbug making a bomb costs a lot dude
 
9:21 AM
Would that be the Soviets in Afghanistan?
 
@Griwes most of them.
 
Or all we looking further into the past?
 
@Abyx yes, which actually supports my point
 
@Griwes that's from 8x
 
we should feel the responsibility for what our "civilization" caused
 
9:21 AM
@Griwes nope, let's look at the recent events
 
@Abyx Of course - but it never ended!
 
instead of messing around with other people lives and expecting that would never impact us
 
(At least not really.)
 
@milleniumbug yes
 
@Abyx Oh, are we also going to only consider history of Europe starting from '89?
Or '91?
 
9:22 AM
@Griwes it could end but NATO was feeding AQ
 
You can't ignore events earlier in the chain of events.
 
@Ven tbh I need to gather a lot of money anyway
 
@Abyx inb4 the USA staged the WTC attacks
 
Ven
@milleniumbug for the bitches?
 
@Griwes no, why
 
Ven
9:23 AM
.oO( I have become the Puppy )
 
Okay, at the very least you're not that insane.
 
@Griwes but US did cover up for saudis who actually sponsored the event
 
Theeeere we go.
 
why, just usual politics
just like the shit going between Russia and Turkey
 
excuse me. I'm really want to ask a question about c++, but seems to me, this thread is about racism and politics, not about c++ :)
 
9:32 AM
@AndyProwl He does that a lot.
 
> It’s a sweltering summer’s day and you really fancy a nice cold ice cream to cool you down. Which flavour should you pick, though? Hmm, hazelnut would be a good choice. But beware: if you ask for “Nutte”, you will be met with stares of incredulity. You’ve just ordered a female prostitute. Use the word “Nuss” instead.
Interesting.
 
nwp
@tty6 you probably have more luck here
 
@nwp sure
 
gotta love when linux fucks up the filesystem every time it boots
fucking hell
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Which is why I found it funny that he suddenly dropped it as he needed to support his argument
 
9:42 AM
@AndyProwl what message do you refer to?
 
has anybody used SFNUL?
it says something about having to link the systems networking libraries
and i'm fucking clueless
 
nwp
@ChemiCalChems can't you infer it from the symbol name that the linker complains is missing?
 
52 mins ago, by Abyx
even the president is black
 
@nwp yeah,good idea, havent even tried compiling yet, but thanks for the idea
 
^ Here you're saying that in spite of their nationalism, Americans don't discriminate against black peoples - IOW they are not racist
that's where you dropped the Tu Quoque
 
9:52 AM
@AndyProwl that could be "anecdotal" but it's not Tu Quoque
 
which is why I said that's where you dropped the Tu Quoque
meaning that you stopped playing it
 
no fucking tutorials for sfnul
well shit
good thing i installed the docs
 
well, back to refugees
@Griwes as a citizen of a NATO country, do you feel responsible for destroying Libya?
 
Hi super noob question ahead. Before joining codewars I need to pass some coding test. How ever I can't get ahead the 2nd question. Please help.
#include <string>

struct Person
{
Person(std::string name) {}

std::string greet(std::string other_name)
{
return "Hi " + other_name + ", my name is " + name;
}

std::string name = "Joe";
};
 
where's the logical fallacy chart when you need it
 
9:59 AM
It says "Correct this code so that the greet function returns the expected value.
"
what to do here?
 

« first day (2113 days earlier)      last day (2829 days later) »