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2:00 PM
I'm an owner of the Bar.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's okay, we still love you.
 
Wait, not anymore.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes vOv but you're not a dick
 
So, he's never coming back? Nukes are standard here, but seems to me he deployed an antimatter weapon.
 
2:04 PM
GOOD MORNING
 
HELLO
 
Ccr
Uea. I got to comment now!
 
HOW TO SUCK COCK
 
I got my coffee, a sour throat, and tonight I'm getting a shipment of IKEA stuff.
 
obvious starbait
 
Xeo
2:05 PM
Let's not start that again
It was funny once.
 
:C
 
HOW TO CUCK SOCK
12
 
Xeo
ffs guys
 
inb4 rights activists about freedom of star
 
2:05 PM
Freeeduuuum
 
USA USA USA
 
More like free dumb amirite huehuehue
 
Xeo
@EtiennedeMartel What are you, a Cicada?
 
Friiiiiiduuuuuuuum
 
FOR CARDASSIA Damar dies
 
2:06 PM
@Xeo I like to think that I'm intelligent enough to know when it's time to be a serious person and when it's time to be an unfunny penis.
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Peanus.
 
Ccr
Pe anus
Pee anus
 
You'll fit right in
 
Ccr
Push eeee
 
@Xeo no, no it wasn't
 
2:08 PM
Also.
I'm stucking having to add a new feature to a disgusting code base.
 
Ccr
Wats this buzz guys r u all drunk?
 
I have to compensate somehow.
 
Undisgust it.
 
Already done... in a separate version.
Basically, between that one and the next major version, we just ripped all the shit out and started from scratch.
It's just that sometimes, users ask for stuff in the legacy version.
 
Ugh, legacy.
 
2:09 PM
So you began using technologies from this century, right?
Like C++11
 
It's C#.
 
Xeo
C#11
 
I'm fucking around with our UI design tool.
 
Xeo
it's from next century even!
 
Although I'm pretty excited about C#6's nameof.
I'm gonna be putting it fucking everywhere I do reflection.
 
2:10 PM
So you are telling me that the number of C++98 and C++03 codebases is still the same?
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ C++11 and above here.
 
Do you work in a startup?
 
Speaking of above, how's 17 coming along?
Naw.
 
Our engine is slowly starting to use C++11 features, but it's being held back by the fact that VS2012 is one of the platforms we have to support.
 
2:11 PM
our engine is slowly starting to use C++03 features
 
Can't you compile with GCC or Clang++ on Windows?
 
@EtiennedeMartel We had a vote with Microsoft, basically, they're not supporting VS2012 for DX12 and beyond.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Not really worth the effort.
 
Or 2013.
 
guys I need to make a decision
 
2:12 PM
We're supposed to switch to 2015 sometime before the end of the year anyway.
 
Ah, then good.
 
I have to specify a file format between 2 applications
 
@EtiennedeMartel Does VS2015 support C++11?
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Yes.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ More than 2012, that's for sure.
I think they support it fully, but with little to no C++14 support.
 
2:13 PM
@ElimGarak I wouldn't be surprised if it was like 60% compliant
 
The data is very large amounts of double matrices, with some metadata. Expect ~200 million doubles
 
@Mr.kbok XML
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ It's fully now. It sure did take them a while.
 
They're promising to be a bit more diligent now.
 
2:14 PM
So they are like 3 years behind the rest of the world?
 
Look, I'm just happy they have variadic templates and constexpr.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I want reasonable performance
 
@Mr.kbok You said the P word, careful, Cat might jump in with nonsensical bullshit.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You said the X word so I might have a seizure
 
Is the X word Sex?
 
2:15 PM
Cat has grown weary of the world, must be in his final years.
 
@ElimGarak He's Polish. He's cynical and defeatist by nature.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ E is for the ecstasy and X is there just to mark the spot or something?
 
polish people are used to defeat
 
(Wait, you are too, IIRC)
 
Croatia :Đ
 
2:16 PM
Ah, right.
Sorry about that.
 
The country that looks like someone took a bite out of it.
 
That might not be entirely wrong.
 
Ever saw a weirder shape? (Genuinely curious)
 
Looks like you guys are trying to eat Bosnia.
"om nom nom"
 
Looks like a predator skull, too. Yeah. :D
Getting from Osijek to Korcula is a round trip. Everything is a round trip.
 
2:19 PM
agar.io
 
You can't cut through bosnia?
I went to croatia once, near Pula. it was a beautiful landscape.
 
You can, but you don't necessarily want to. Poverty is rampant there, you stop at an intersection in any large city, bums will surround your car.
Also, there is a new game dev conference that is held in Croatia anually, spawned from Reboot or something.
 
@ElimGarak how are flights?
 
2:23 PM
didn't Bosnia used to be part of Croatia up to recentlyish?
 
@thecoshman To be fair, Canada is large because it belonged to people who couldn't defend themselves.
 
I love seeing these things.
@EtiennedeMartel -_-
we didn't think we had too
everyone was having a good time at the start..
 
2:24 PM
@thecoshman Yugoslavia was such a great idea.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what? so I don't know the details of every human fuck up vOv
 
The last time Bosnia was actually a part of Croatia was centuries ago (think towards a thousand years), Yugoslavia was something really terrible.
 
@ElimGarak what's the tl;dr?
 
@thecoshman People saying they'll do one thing, join together for the great thing, a group of people try to usurp power for themselves. War.
 
... I'll get a YT vid tonight XD
 
2:26 PM
And also other brilliant ideas like banning the import of vehicles. Creating this...
 
War, war never changes.
 
This is one of those arguments Cat can use against reinventing stuff.
 
@ElimGarak ONTARIO
 
@EtiennedeMartel War, war was never like this.
 
It wasn't just war though, when it became apparent they were going to lose, they started killing civilians by the shitload throughout the entire former Yugoslavia.
Thankfully, I was born somewhere in the middle of the war. Can't remember shit. Just remember my father giving my mother an AK-47 when someone was ringing the door while he was trying to put pants on. He didn't want to die in his underwear. (middle of the night)
 
2:32 PM
@thecoshman Yet another one of those stupid states born out of carving the losers of WW1.
 
Yup.
But the stupid state is merely a reincarnation of multiple similar attempts. Each failing miserably.
 
@ElimGarak Friend in school was a refugee :\
 
What, you're telling me that all of Eastern Europe isn't one homogeneous culture of like-minded inviduals with similar backgrounds and motivations?
 
@ElimGarak "Hey guys, give me a boost up so I can grab those cookies for us all to share!..... Thanks... erm, my cookies, go away!"
 
Croatians have a history of teaming up with idiots. They were so desperate for independence once, they became a Nazi puppet state.
@thecoshman Precisely.
 
2:35 PM
@EtiennedeMartel oh they are, they just don't like to admit it :P
 
@ElimGarak Hey, France did too. Happens to the best of us.
 
The Independent State of Croatia (Serbo-Croatian: Nezavisna Država Hrvatska, Независна Држава Хрватска, NDH; German: Unabhängiger Staat Kroatien; Italian: Stato Indipendente di Croazia), often referred to simply by the abbreviation NDH, was a World War II puppet state of Germany and Italy, which was established in parts of Axis-occupied Yugoslavia. The NDH was founded on 10 April 1941, after the invasion of Yugoslavia by the Axis powers. The NDH consisted of most of modern day Croatia and Bosnia and Herzegovina, together with some parts of modern-day Serbia. The regime targeted Serbs, Jews, Muslims...
Hilarious name. We know Yugoslavia as the Kingdom of Serbs, Croats and Slovenes.
 
> The regime targeted Serbs, Jews, Muslims and Roma people, as part of a large-scale genocide campaign in places such as the Jasenovac concentration camp.
Business as usual, eh.
 
@ElimGarak That was the WW1-aftermath name.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Then the reversal in the 90s. But I think they killed Muslims as well. Always commit genocide against Muslims as well.
Slovenia was the first to pull out, smartest move. Also, the tiniest country, everyone makes jokes on the account of its size (here).
 
2:38 PM
Yogurt of Slavs.
 
Good morning.
 
I am still surprised Croatia came out on top, given that they didn't have shit to defend themselves with. Serbia surrounded Vukovar with 30,000 troops, took 3 months for it to fall.
 
@ElimGarak they modded the agreement...
 
Yes, they modified the agreement just prior to the signing. Basically, got everyone together to get the cookie, but secretly ensured that the cookie would be theirs.
 
2:41 PM
@EtiennedeMartel War, war always changes.
MGS vs Fallout
 
A lesson for everyone, read the fucking contract.
 
i ammended language to make it more equitable and less menacing ...
 
I don't care much for politics though, sad I wasn't born in the US, tho'.
USA. USA. USA. Wouldn't get a stupid first name.
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EAGLES AND SHIT
 
BALD EAGLES AND SHIT.
 
2:43 PM
@ElimGarak change your name then vOv
 
@thecoshman Family objects, they won't have anything to do with me if I do, also goes for the surname.
 
user1804599
 
@ElimGarak Well, think of it has "optimizing" your name.
 
@ElimGarak o_0 stupidity like that isn't down to the country you are borning
 
To "Dom".
 
2:45 PM
"Dom" means "Home" here. xd
 
hey
 
@user3711332 Hey, baby, want some x-pills?
 
@ElimGarak Dominic.
@user3711332 Hi.
 
I like Richard.
 
@ElimGarak Well, maybe that'd be good, then?
 
2:46 PM
@Griwes Like some of them. Going to wait for them to die.
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I mean, if they care about names more than about people... vOv
 
@ElimGarak Dick!
@ElimGarak Nice.
 
That was actually my mom's suggestion. "Not to break their heart" or something. I don't get it, but okay.
 
Oh come on.
You can have two names.
You can have a nickname and just use it everywhere.
 
Would be easier to communicate on the phone, everytime I work with someone new over the phone, they miss it completely.
Yeah, introduce myself to Microsoft contacts as "Elim Garak from Deep Space 9, a spy of the Obsidian Order".
 
2:49 PM
It's legal here in NYC. Changing your name not "legally" but by "usage".
 
Better for them to think I'm some sort of neckbeard terrorist called Domagoji.
 
> Gas prices sky rocket with the regular gas price being $7450.99 per gallon and $8500.99 per gallon for premium.
^ Fallout Timeline, 2077.
 
I am just hoping my name won't be a red flag for the TSA.
 
@ElimGarak Change your name.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Soon, fusion powered cars. Then October 23nd, 2077.
FALLOUT 4. FALLOUT 4. FALLOUT 4.
 
2:50 PM
@ElimGarak Two hours. That's how long the Great War lasted.
 
Is there another application like Sublime Text that is free?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Indeed, another Fallout fan. Fuck yes.
 
@DemCodeLines Sublime Text.
It's WinRAR free.
 
> that is free
You mean you want me to keep ignoring those beautiful warnings to buy a license that come with SFTP?
 
Ah ok I suppose you have a point.
 
2:52 PM
@sehe called me the first time "DomagoDŽ".
 
I have it!
 
The one thing that bugs me is that Fallout 4 is made by Bethesda and not Obsidian.
 
@ElimGarak Call yourself Demigod.
 
So I fear it's gonna be a beautiful but ultimately empty experience like Skyrim was.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Fallout The Wild Wild West could be done by Obsidian again.
Bethesda has a fetish for the East coast, I don't like it. But I'll play it.
 
2:54 PM
Comparing F3 to FNV, I always prefered the latter because it had an actual plot, actual choices, and actual characters.
I don't care much for the setting as long as there's stuff in it.
 
Indeed, but it was on the west side like the originals. But the Gamebryo engine was atrocious. New Vegas (the city) looked worse than shit. I am not sure it was even to scale ( the individual buildings ).
But, did you see the voice cast? Half the cast of DS9 was there.
 
I know it looked like someone puked in a rectum. But still, I didn't care. The Mojave Wasteland felt like a place where real people lived.
 
Yes! Also, Mr. House was Odo from Deep Space 9. Marcus was Worf. That guy from Friends was Benny.
 
The Capital Wasteland looked like your typical video game open world.
It was also so boring.
And since Skyrim had the exact same fucking issues.
 
@ElimGarak Did you guys read about the fact that a train you ride in F3 is actually a character wearing a huge train hat?
 
2:56 PM
I fear that they didn't really learn from their mistakes.
 
There's a point where you need to look at your engine and just cry.
 
@TartanLlama That's actually a pro point for rolling your own shit. Or at least learning that you aren't forbidden from extending your engine if you licensed it.
 
I think that Obsidian looked at Gamebryo, realized it was shit, and decided to pour their resources into writing because at least that's not limited by the tech.
 
Gamebryo had no preset vehicle stuff, so they just used existing character shit to fake a train. Because adding vehicle code is such a menacing task. On the rails vehicle, for that matter. Doesn't even require physics.
Also, Bethesda animations have been shit since Morrowind & Oblivion. And the animation system has been reused for a decade almost. Has no IK solvers, just places the character on top of the ground and runs the looping animation.
 

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