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Xeo
1:04 PM
> Modernizing Legacy C++
James McNellis
Kate Gregory
> Simplicity
Phil Nash
aw man, why are these at the same time
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
@Xeo How much is it?
 
Xeo
$640 for 4 days (excluding the pre-conference tutorial day)
plus flight and hotel stuff
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what for?
 
Xeo
That is, for early-birds
 
1:07 PM
@Xeo yeah, that made me sad as well
 
@Xeo fail. Both sound great
 
Xeo
yeah
 
BTW robor, I was thinking bout that shader generation stuff. I think I'll do it at least partially for Hate.
 
@Xeo the first one on the other hand seems to be the same talk they gave at CppCon, and the video is online
(or some other conference before CppCon perhaps, but I think I've seen that talk)
 
1 hour ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Not that I would hang it over the real thing.
 
Xeo
1:09 PM
@AndyProwl Oh, good to know, I was checking for talks that were already done before and have videos, so I know what to pick and what I can surely watch later on
 
Vandalism, basically.
 
@Xeo so you're going?
 
Xeo
14 mins ago, by Xeo
I still have to ask
14 mins ago, by Xeo
just checking prices and schedules right now
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
I completely forgot about that
 
@Xeo well yeah I could have scrolled 15 messages up
 
Xeo
1:11 PM
> Safety: off. How not to shoot yourself in the foot with C++ atomics.
Anthony Williams
> Design For Testability: What, Why and How
Giovanni Asproni
Those also sound interesting and are at the same time again :<
 
1 hour ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
I'd get someone else to do it because I'm not tall enough.
 
My boss asked me to revise a 70-page report to use the passive voice. My 12th grade English teacher is being turned in her grave.
lol wellplayed
 
@sehe o_0 that makes sense...
 
@BartekBanachewicz I wasn't even there, and I remembered!
 
fucking shit
 
1:13 PM
Welp, email sent to manager to ask about the companies policy
 
our build chain is now officially using Make, Perl AND sed
 
Policy on what? Sending people to cool conferences? :D
 
@sehe what are y'all remembering?
 
we just need awk to get it to absolutely unmaintainable mess
 
Xeo
> A Revolutionary Programming Pattern that Will Clean up your Code: Coroutines in C++
dat title
 
1:14 PM
I hate people using terrible tools
Naming my framework Hate was the best thing I've ever done
 
@BartekBanachewicz And M4
 
@jalf yeah. Will they help pay for attendance, travel, accommodation, what about time off?
@BartekBanachewicz you need some ant and maven scripts thrown in, and a customised version of jenkins
 
@Xeo Sheila? Dat you?
 
Seems like you guys are thinking of a pre-Unconference in Bristol
wouldn't be a bad idea
 
@AndyProwl company pays $1k for me to go to conference, I go back with just a headache :P
 
Xeo
1:17 PM
The contents of that talk sound interesting though, despite the cringy title
 
@thecoshman hmpfh
 
@thecoshman well that's just a worthy international exchange of booz experience
 
you better be extremely careful saying perl around me next time we meat
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'll buy a perl necklace :P
 
pearl
@thecoshman with a rubby in the middle
 
1:18 PM
¬_¬ look up 'pun'
 
> next time we meat
the "a" belonged to "perl"
:P
 
a meeting without meat is for women, not real barbarians
 
agree
 
@thecoshman I'ld like to see my company sponsoring me to attend to these confs :(
 
1:21 PM
inb4 sexist
 
meat and slivovica
inb4 alcoholist
 
Alcoholist suggests expertise in the field of liquor. Not to be mistaken with alcoholic right?
 
are they not the same :P
 
1:24 PM
@Rerito lots of expertise
 
Hehe
 
> [What IDE do you use for C++ programming and why?] Visual Studio mostly because of autocomplete and debugger.
Must. Not. Reply.
 
Xeo
lol
 
if it weren't for the sucky compiler, I wouldn't mind using VS
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I use butterflies
 
1:30 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes a knife is waiting to open in my pocket shall you mention GDB
 
Xeo
> Git Branching Models That Scale
Lee Winder
> Fizzbuzzalooza
Kevlin Henney
The former sounds interesting, the latter funny
again at the same time :<
 
until you delete it is what bothers me here. I wouldn't recommend using low-level primitives such as new to beginners — Bartek Banachewicz 7 secs ago
 
user1804599
I'm a genius.
 
Xeo
Hey @Puppy, I heard you might have open vacancies during ACCU?
 
@BartekBanachewicz What's wrong about GDB?
 
1:36 PM
lol, got a badge for this stackoverflow.com/a/7436953/46642.
 
@Rerito it doesn't work. No, don't ask. Accept it. Walk away slowly.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'd explain in you answer what an 'rvalue' is (roughly)
 
@thecoshman why?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Any suggestion then?
 
I wouldn't.
 
1:37 PM
^
 
It's a clear sign the answer is going overboard.
XY and all.
 
@BartekBanachewicz imo above the level of the OP
 
The answer you talk about is just a gigantic pun. It has to be upvoted
 
@thecoshman that's why I provided an example solution.
 
heh twitter.com/SeanParent/status/558330478541803522 never takes long for these to get capitalized on SO :) — sehe 8 secs ago
 
1:39 PM
The answer doesn't really explain that the values are seen as temporaries and thus go out of scope right away.
@BartekBanachewicz that doesn't really explain what was wrong, just how to do it right.
 
> An address isn't a strong reference to an object; since C++ is not a garbage-collected language, the values of B, C and D disappear as soon as the statements they are used in are executed.
I've added that after a while. Maybe you haven't refreshed
 
wait what, you can take the address of an rvalue?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's on the starboard :)
 
@AndyProwl VC++, probably.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'd still say it's above the level of the op, but vOv
 
1:40 PM
anyone familiar with splay trees around here?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I thought VC only allowed binding lvalue references to rvalues, not taking their address
 
@saadtaame I know the name and the principle. Pretty much it.
@Borgleader why have you taken down your answer?
 
@sehe I might have been on drugs back then. I never use dashed arguments to tar.
 
@saadtaame intimately. splaying in the woods used to be a favorite pastime. Nowadays, just the kitty gets to play in the woods :(
 
It just feels wrong.
 
1:42 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes TBH you might have had a flash of compatibilitism. I believe some flavours (BSD?) or tar require the dash
@R.MartinhoFernandes Agreed
 
@thecoshman C++ isn't a simple language in this regard. There's no point in oversimplifying the ownership semantics explanation. If she doesn't know what an rvalue is, there's a lot of places that explain it properly, in detail and with better examples.
 
@saadtaame anyways, in case you wonder, there's one in boost (but you'll have be intrusive)
 
no, a good compiler will not compile it
 
@BartekBanachewicz Yours was better.
 
1:43 PM
@BartekBanachewicz so why not link?
 
@Borgleader that's not the reason to delete, imho
 
Besides, I have 10k rep now. :)
 
Xeo
Oh man, I just noticed it's £640 not $640 (obviously, eh) - which is ~860 Euro :<
 
@BartekBanachewicz in a splay tree, accesses perform splays always..so all operations are UPDATES right? i'm concerned because i want to make a splay tree partially persistent but it looks like you can't query previous versions without modifying them (the splay).. so a splay tree is no good for partial persistence? (if you know about partial persistence)
 
I got 10k just for the lulz
 
1:44 PM
@BartekBanachewicz that's like saying "I did that on purpose" after you quickly correct for a mighty oversteer blunder in a rally car
 
@thecoshman because I'm not inclined to do everything for the OP every time?
 
Also your answer covered what mine did and more, so mine added nothing.
 
@BartekBanachewicz teach me to lulz that way
 
@sehe bc of deleted stuff
back at the day mysticial was posting screenies for everyone to read :P
 
You're being punished for not being trollish enough to the newbie
 
1:45 PM
also my answer didn't get the accept so there
 
/cue: ZigZag and ZigZig
 
@BartekBanachewicz persistence is ambiguous but in the context of data structures persistence is in the inside! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistent_data_structure. I don't think you know what I mean..
 
@saadtaame persistence is about what's on the outside. It's perfectly fine to mutate the datastructure for performance reasons, as long as it results in the same "value" at the end
> their operations do not (visibly) update the structure in-place, but instead always yield a new updated structure.
emphasis mine
 
You're missing the point.
 
might be
 
1:49 PM
so VC++ indeed lets you take the address of a prvalue
Robot was right, as usual
 
robot's always right
3
 
@BartekBanachewicz Persistent data structures let you access old versions. But access on splay trees is mutating.
 
yeah I probably should shut up about that
and read Okasaki after all
 
Xeo
Alright, mail sent.
Let's hope for the best
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes partially persistent to be precise, fully persistent data structures allow change in past versions.. i don't know if i should conclude that splay trees can't be made partially persistent or not (i think they can if you don't want to mutate but that'd be inefficient).
 
1:56 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That's sort of old, btw.
Not that there's a newer replacement.
 
... that
 
@saadtaame I suppose you end up with non-linear history?
A tree of versions, instead of a list.
Like vim's undo tree.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes a tree of versions..there are generalizations to DAGs of versions and generalizations where nothing mutates at all (functional)..
@R.MartinhoFernandes @BartekBanachewicz watch youtube.com/watch?v=T0yzrZL1py0
 
@Xeo Might do.
my place is not large or glamorous but it's free
 
@saadtaame So you want the data structure to represent the relationship "parent/children" of your versions
 
2:02 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Yesssss
 
Xeo
I just need about 2m² to sleep, more is luxury
 
2 quadratic metres?
You live in hyperspace?
 
2 quarter minutes?
 
Xeo
mah
2m²
there
 
@saadtaame So what's the problem then?
Seems perfectly feasible.
 
2:03 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes was thinking if splay trees can be made partially persistent and remain efficient..that's all
 
@Xeo You should have gotten it right from the beginning. You're not forgiven.
 
Xeo
happy?
 
@saadtaame How do you define the order relationship between versions?
 
@Xeo :P
 
@saadtaame They can: accessing an old tree just creates another branch in the version history.
 
2:03 PM
@AlexM. what do you call people in lower positions? x)
 
I got officially praised by senpai for doing my job great & fast
there were lots of senpais in /cc
 
who's senpai?
 
@saadtaame Well, if you wanna go by a strict definition like that, then 'no'.
 
@AndyProwl I dunno I call all people in higher positions than me senpais
 
@Rerito You don't have to. You access old versions by keeping a reference to them. It doesn't matter that they're old: you keep references to all the versions you need, regardless of age.
 
@AlexM. oh, I see. By that definition, 99% of the people in my company are senpais, I guess.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Aren't splay tree binary search trees?
 
@saadtaame NullReferenceException
 
Xeo
lol
 
@Rerito Yes.
 
2:06 PM
@AlexM. little pieces of apple snorted all over my keyboard
 
> in this case a senior or a teacher if you're thinking of that chick from Misao who liked her teacher
perfectly clear
 
So there must be a "comparison" function to apply to the version objects right?
This should define an order on these version objects
 
@AndyProwl Is that like Japanese Lolita?
 
@AlexM. senpai is close to sensei
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes maybe? No Idea
 
Xeo
2:06 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes wat
 
What's confusing?
 
Xeo
Oh, nvm
 
Chop chop. splay trees.
Hormones ruining attention again
 
@Rerito There doesn't have to be one.
 
@Rerito version objects? A node is not a sortable object. It's very simple container that "affords" one or more links
The sorting is the responsibility of the container. Which keeps a reference to a root node and knows how to operate on the tree keeping all invariants
In fact all trees can be viewed as generic linkable nodes + a set of algorithms to make the "organism" behave as a datastructure with useful characteristics
 
2:11 PM
I'm not troubled with the abstraction of a node object
What puzzles me is the concept of a search tree without ordering
 
You were troubled with the semantics of the non-existing notion of "version"
@Rerito Who said there's no ordering? It's just that the tree doesn't store versions as elements. The tree is-a version (the elements are sorted, stably even in the case of splay trees)
 
I must have misread something then
 
I think that happened
 
@Rerito the whole tree is a version. normally there is only one version = what the tree looks like now.. we were discussing: what if we want an update operation (insert for example) to create and return a new version but allow for access in the old versions of the data structure.. so you can look in the past and print the tree at version X.
 
This question looks interesting. Compiler/implementation bug?
 
2:14 PM
Makes more sense then
Oh alright I misread completely
The tree of version mentioned above is actually the tree of versions of your splay tree
 
called it! "Generally no"
 
@Rerito yes. read about persistence: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persistent_data_structure
guys, should we disambiguate the tag persistence on stackoverflow?
 
Sounds like a burnination target.
Get Trogdor on it.
 
@saadtaame You mean like DB persistence and Clojure persistence?
 
@AndyProwl if that's a bug, then it's a library bug/DR (should the member be marked volatile?)
 
2:24 PM
this is good
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Xeo
Aw yis, Thüringer Rostbratwurst.
 
all Kauflands have a thuringer stand outside here
 
Xeo
ye
 
@sehe could be a compiler bug too. If it's a library issue, then volatile is unlikely to be the cure. But I'm not an expert
 
@AndyProwl Well, if the compiler decides to optimize a load cycle away, the only way for a library to specify otherwise is to mark it volatile, no? I mean, short of going full atomics.
 
2:26 PM
> A flag -fwombat can be negated by saying -fno-wombat.
lol
 
@sehe volatile may solve the issue in this case, but my guess would be that the correct solution involves atomics, relaxed memory model, barriers, etc. - which I know nearly nothing about so shutting up
 
That would make the defect so large, I find it unlikely
 
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sbi
Those Thuringians and their Bratwursts.
Nothing deters them.
 
@sehe Wait, just to clarify, are you talking about how the library implementation of weak_ptr::expired() should use volatile to compensate for the compiler/optimizer bug, or how the OP could declare its variable as volatile to workaround the library/compiler/optimizer/whatever bug?
 
sbi
2:31 PM
@jalf None of those talks is exactly new. You find both of them online. /cc @Xeo
 
> to compensate for the compiler bug
 
Xeo
Good to know
 
Nice way to weave the assumption in
 
I'm lost
 
> Mathematics and sex are deeply intertwined. From using mathematics to reveal patterns in our sex lives, to using sex to prime our brain for certain types of problems, to understanding them both in terms of the evolutionary roots of our brain, Dr Clio Cresswell shares her insight into it all.
Is there something wrong with me if mathematics doesn't turn me on?
 
sbi
2:33 PM
@Xeo As a help for that decision: IIRC, I found Anthony's thick British accent very hard to follow. :)
 
@AndyProwl In general, unless told otherwise, the compiler doesn't have to assume the existence of any other threads. So anything that doesn't explicitly use atomic load/stores or loads from memory address marked volatile is fair game for the compiler to reorder and optimize away.
That's not a bug. By definition.
 
@sbi You have a thick accent!
 
@FredOverflow Yes.
 
hmpf why can't I compare a pair<X, Y const*> and a pair<X, Y*>? Do I really have to decompose one of them and cast or to the two comparisons by hand?
 
Is it ethical for me to put up Project Euler solutions on GitHub?
 
sbi
2:34 PM
@thecoshman German or Merkin?
 
@FredOverflow However, that doesn't mean this is not a most unusefule marketing blurb
 
@sbi vOv I was just being silly :P
 
@sehe volatile can be reordered just fine, just not with regards to other volatilememory accesses. But it can be reordered around non-volatile memory accesses just fine
 
@FredOverflow not bad...
 
(or perhaps it'd be more accurate to say that nonvolatile accesses can be reordered around a volatile one)
 
2:35 PM
@jalf That's what I meant, but you're right I haven't worded it very clearly
 
sbi
@thecoshman That might well be. Still, I'd like to know how you as a native British speaker hear me.
 
Xeo
@sbi Well, I'll have to see about getting it sponsored from work first, anyways.
 
@sehe Right. volatile does not entirely help with reordering though (non-volatile reads/writes can be reordered with volatile reads/writes), so in a multithreaded context I don't expect it to be the solution. Fences and relaxed memory model perhaps.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow She doesn't turn you one??
 
@AndyProwl Well, there's only one relevant access in .expired(). (And yes, unlike lock() its interface is designed to be racy)
 
2:36 PM
If you want to use volatile for synchronization, you'd better make every single variable in your program volatile :)
 
@sbi fine really. perhaps a bit slow and/or quite. But I think it's more that you words are well chosen.
 
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@jalf Nobody wants to use it for synchronization.
 
Also, I'm not saying there definitely is a compiler bug. I'm saying that the loop being optimized away may be the result of (a) a correct library implementation + a compiler/optimizer bug or (b) a correct compiler/optimizer behavior + an incorrect library implementation.
 
sbi
@thecoshman I notice how you avoided answering my question.
 
@MohammadAliBaydoun Why would you even want to?
 
@sbi ... which one?
 
@AndyProwl Or an incorrect (both)
 
sbi
@Xeo If possible, always go to Kevlin Henney's talks. He so unbelievably great to listen to.
 
@sehe right
 
2:38 PM
@sbi are you going for sure?
 
sbi
@thecoshman The one you will find going back the chain of references leading to this reply of mine.
 
@FredOverflow Some of these solutions are too beautiful to hide ;~;
 
Xeo
@sbi The way he described the talk really makes me want to
 
@sbi I always get the feeling that his one-hour talks could be condensed down to 10 minutes without sacrificing much content.
 
@AndyProwl And my point is, you don't have to look at the library implementation. I just looked at the specification, and it says nothing about the thread awareness of expired() so, it makes sense that a library implementation that doesn't care about that is correct by definition.
 
2:39 PM
@sbi afaik I've only heard you speak yank
 
sbi
@thecoshman On account of being sick and in bed, I haven't booked yet. But unless I get fired before I can, I'll book next week.
@Xeo No, really. Search any talk of Kevlin on the web. He is a born speaker. It's great fun to listen to him.
 
Xeo
4 mins ago, by Xeo
@sbi Well, I'll have to see about getting it sponsored from work first, anyways.
 
sbi
@FredOverflow Yeah, but that's because you're a mathematician at heart. Real humans enjoy the detours he makes. :)
 
@sehe OK, I think I understand your comment now, but it looks odd to me for thread-awareness not to be guaranteed
 
@sehe Yes, it does say something about it.
 
sbi
2:41 PM
@thecoshman Thanks. I really wanted to know that. (I always hear German accents in others, but never mine, so I always wonder...)
 
@AndyProwl It is.
 
@AndyProwl That's why I mentioned DR
@R.MartinhoFernandes Mmm. I missed it
 
@FredOverflow It is an interesting talk. But I absolutely dislike her dress.
 
@sehe 1) const
 
@sbi Although I must admit the pictures he takes of books are really beautiful :)
 
sbi
2:42 PM
@wilx Have you ever said something like it about a male speaker?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Means that it will not alter the inmemory representation of the weak_ptr object, that's nothing stopping the compiler from optimizing away loads in a loop?
 
sbi
@FredOverflow :)
 
@sbi oh, you mean "do you sound German or Yank"?
 
@sbi No, I have not. Is there a problem?
 
@sehe And all the additional guarantees that are given for the whole standard library.
 
sbi
2:42 PM
@thecoshman I believe this is exactly what I asked.
 
Yeah, I think you have a clear German twang there, but it's not that strong
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Mmm. I'm not familiar with them (assuming they must be given separately (appendix?))
 
Is there a video of sbi somewhere? Or why are you talking about his German accent being apparent or not?
 
@sbi I thought you mean "accent when I'm talking..." and I've not heard you speak German.... I think.
 
@FredOverflow I was wrong. It is a marketing blurb, but it's apt. The content accurately matches that description. And it's not even useless. (at 30% in)
 
2:45 PM
@sehe Does she tell us how we can use math to get laid?
#include <math.h>   // Let's get this party started!
 
Not yet. But it does give good relationship advice. And counting strategies :)
 
sbi
@wilx See, I made a joke about her being a woman myself, but it was clearly a joke, and given that her talk was about sex, I felt excused for doing so. Yet I was conscious about it, and it took a while for me to make it.
You, OTOH, commented in what seems full earnest about the robe of a speaker who is giving what you yourself call an interesting talk. And I believe you would do this about a male speaker. That is some form of sexism, and I know that women in tech are very annoyed by this attitude of judging them as a woman, rather than an expert in their field.
 
@FredOverflow you're fucked. I don't date math.h-ers. Only #include <cmath>
 
sbi
@thecoshman Ah, thanks, I always wanted to know that.
 
@sehe Sorry, I'm still in C mode from my recent C course.
 
2:47 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are you talking about the "const => thread-safe or bitwise immutable" thing?
 
sbi
@FredOverflow We do this only because @thecoshman was, again, unable to decipher the meaning of a question asked in well-formed English.
 
@wilx ?! EYEBROWS_2CEILING
 
@sehe that looks like synchronization to me. Ensuring that sharing of data across threads happens, and happens in the desired order?
Anyway, I'm heading home. Have fun all
 
@sbi ¬_¬ you damn hippy
 
sbi
@sehe Nah, don't. I am sure he hadn't even thought about this being dissing the woman. Rather explain it to him.
 
2:49 PM
@sehe Also, I don't really care for c prefix or .h suffix. How about a compromise? #include <ctype.h>
 
@jalf Yeah, what the OP expected to happen is something else entirely.
I meant I (nor anyone here AFAICT) didn't suggest .expired() could be used for synchronization.
 
sbi
@thecoshman Hippo, you mean?
 
@sbi I have not seen your comment. I fail to see what it has to do with my comment.
Is commenting on somebody's dress now prohibited?
Is it wrong that I dislike somebody's dress?
 
sbi
No, not at all.
 
@sbi I do explain my surprise. And amusement. And yes, I've given that dress a very detailed look myself. But I have no hard feelings about her wearing that. Anywhere
@wilx Nope. It's just interesting
 
2:50 PM
The spec for use_count doesn't mention any shared data, btw.
 
sbi
@wilx What is wrong is that you judge a female speaker by her robe, while I believe you would never do that about a male speaker.
 
And any modifications needed for use_count don't introduce data races.
 
@sbi well I wasn't going to get personal :P
 
sbi
@sehe :)
 
2:51 PM
@sehe Maybe it's meant to be like that? "[ Note: expired() may be faster than use_count(). —end note ]"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Going purely by the const markers, I take it?
 
@FredOverflow lol
 
@sbi I did not judge the speaker. I judged her dress. It is not pretty. Please do not confuse the two. I actually think the woman is quite pretty. But her dress is not.
 
@AndyProwl Precisely/I'd still rank that a DR
 
2:51 PM
Geezus, bloody feminists.
 
(I'm a bit busy atm; forgive me if I'm not forthcoming with standard quotes)
 
@wilx WAT. You've just made it exponentially more interesting
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes NOOOOO excuses!
 
sbi
@wilx Again, you seem to miss the point. Would you ever comment on the handsomeness of a male speaker? And whether it's amphasized or destroyed by what they wear?
 
^
 
2:53 PM
You wouldn't download handsomeness.
Scratch that, I totally would.
 
Java design: 'To ensure that the process does not terminate early, construct an object instance where the ctor has an infinite loop':
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28112235/java-socket-programming-connection-refused
 
@FredOverflow The video was funny, and then I read the comments a bit and stumbled upon this:
> it's because women are judged by their sexiness ... look at the way clio is dressed .... do you think she would have got the gig if she had talked about how boring math influences our lives and not mentioned sex .... I bet a lot of the guys watching this heard BLAH BLAH BLAH and were imagining how they would bone her ... I was :)
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes It wouldn't run on your hardware, though. :)
 
Ow.
> For purposes of determining the presence of a data race, member functions shall access and modify only the shared_ptr and weak_ptr objects themselves and not objects they refer to. Changes in use_count() do not reflect modifications that can introduce data races.
 
sbi
@Rerito Oh man. That is really bad. I hadn't even looked at the comments. (Is there something worse than YT comments?)
 
2:54 PM
@sehe from [util.smartptr.shared] ^
 
@sbi I would unlikely comment on man's dress unless he was either nearly naked or dressed like a clown or something similar. I commented on her dress because I am interested in women and pay more attention to how they look than how men look.
 
@sbi hmmm twitter?
 
@wilx "I didn't judge Scott himself. I judged his hairdo (I've never like Jeff Beck's hair styling, or He-Man for that matter)." - so far so good - now hold on tight: "ACTUALLY I think Scott [himself, ed.] is quite a cuty" o.O
@wilx Honesty. I like that
 
I mean the braindead part of twitter
 
sbi
@Rerito Nope. You follow the wrong people then.
 
2:56 PM
@Rerito mistake number one, reading the YT comments
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah. It takes some time, but I think that says the implementation is obliged to be thread aware, which would make that optimization a bug, not a defect in the specs. Awesome
 
@thecoshman It's the quest of the golden shit!
 
@sbi oh oh oh!!! emphasised, not 'amaphasized'
 
Or more precisely, the golden bullshit
 
@sehe liking things. I like that.
 
2:58 PM
get on fb you heathen
 
@thecoshman You have a typo in your transcription of his typo.
 
This woman is a very good speaker...
 
sbi
@wilx I think @sehe's message explained quite well that this isn't about what people wear, but if you judge them by their looks. And it is demeaning to judge a female mathematician by how she looks or what she wears or how she's done her hair. You would not do this with a male speaker.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh well, I have a track record of failing :P
@sehe me?
 
@sbi Feel free to star :) I rather like this one too - if only for amusement value
 
sbi
2:59 PM
@thecoshman That is excused by me being in bed with a fever.
 
@thecoshman who else. You like liking things. Well. Get yourself liked!
 
@sehe I don't understand how to read "Changes in use_count() do not reflect modifications that can introduce data races". Doesn't that imply that use_count() is not thread-aware?
 

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