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user3010322
2:00 PM
Oh, really?
 
Sounds like yet another case of non-readitis.
 
@AlexM. rofl
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Should I star that for later?
 
I bought it for my trip.
 
Xeo
Yes, so?
 
2:01 PM
Never know when you need to cut stuff out there.
I won't carry it in my pocket.
 
Xeo
where stuff = Robot
 
user3010322
Is there a way to take something by value before you define it?
 
user3010322
Because if not, this proposal is as bollocks as it gets.
 
Xeo
@ThePhD Black magic: struct X; void f(X); struct X{}; void f(X x){}
 
Just read it.
 
user3010322
2:02 PM
And let's overlook the fact that he has a constructor for strided_array_view does not take the origin that allows for the .section() member function to even work properly.
 
1. Declare every type and nonmember function;
2. Define every type;
3. Define every member and nonmember function;
^ Algorithm for getting anything to work in C++ when order matters.
@ThePhD strided_array_view(bounds_type bounds, index_type stride, pointer data) noexcept; looks ok for me.
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes Use that constructor to do perform the section operation.
 
@ThePhD return strided_array_view(new_bounds, same_strides, base_pointer + offset);?
offset is calculated from the origin.
Strides don't change, and the bounds are just replaced with the new ones.
 
I'm in the wrong room
 
@ThePhD Horses, not zebras.
 
2:10 PM
how about donkeys? donkeys need love too ...
 
@BartekBanachewicz Use the door system to get to the right room.
 
I need to refactor my javascript code
 
Xeo
2:13 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Reading be hardz
"AAH, ERROR, ENTER PANIC ROUTINES AND POST TO SO!!!11!1!"
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes I see. I didn't think to modify the base pointer at all.
 
user3010322
Welp. That solves that. But I still have to do funky template implementations in headers to have the proper constructors for everything, which is an ass.
 
@ThePhD Really, the proposal is totally fine. There are no changes needed to make it work.
 
GMail understands that I got a plane ticket
pretty cool
 
wait
Jun 16 '13 at 15:59, by Jerry Coffin
@ShuklaSannidhya Code that attempts to define a function starting with str has undefined behavior.
Is that true? Or am I not getting the joke?
 
2:18 PM
it's not true.
 
@Xeo Absolutely genius and hilarious!
 
idgi
 
POSIX reserves names beginning with str, mem, or wcs followed by a lowercase letter.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes meme
 
Xeo
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery Glad you liked it
> Since he was drunk (much drunker than I first thought), he played the character completely against the character's personality and coup de graced an unconscious opponent from a friendly duel. Said opponent was being tended to by a paladin who retaliated and critted the PC, killing the character and bringing the session to a record-scratching halt.
lol
 
2:21 PM
wcstinkstrik3
 
I hate recruiters.
why the fuck do you want to connect to me on linkedin, it's pointless
 
so hows job hunting coming along :D
 
Hey, that's a great name for a baseball horror film
 
@Shog9 I hope you get kidnapped by an old fat wrinkly granny for her pervertness - for removing the only room owner who has the guts to curb an infestation of raging newbs in this lounge
 
what, "why the fuck do you want to connect to me on linkedin"?
 
2:23 PM
linkedin is useless ... unless you are a recruiter, 500+ connections just make you look like you have a lot of 'useful' connections. You know, their jobs is to connect people to jobs - other jobs so they get paid
 
because they haven't heard of email
email is so 1990s
 
linkedin and everyone on it is a scam
 
How about Careers?
 
as near as I can tell, the only purpose of linkedin is to spam me with other people's irrelevant things.
they already email me all the irrelevant things anyway.
 
@DeadMG so they can scan your profile with their shitty apps all day and match on keywords then email you crap job specs you dont want
 
2:24 PM
@chmod711telkitty or want to be recruited
 
@chmod711telkitty like yourself
 
im tempted to write an email autoresponder that through a complex set of rules determines if emails are automated then responds to them with a templated email
 
I don't see linkedin as something useless as long as all I'm required is to update my profile often
 
if they cant be arsed to send me a personal email put together by a human i cant be assed to read it and do the same
 
it's not useless, you only update your profile so that other people can spam you more.
 
2:26 PM
I've been contacted via linkedin so it was useful in the end
 
no its completely useless
 
@Xeo Ep 7 due May 21st?
 
@AlexM. you ever know someone who got a job from linkedin?
because I don't
 
@DeadMG I don't really receive any spam
 
half tempted to close my linked in
the only people i add on it are ex colleagues
 
2:26 PM
spam is practically the only thing I get from recruiters and virtually all jobs-related agencies of all descriptions.
 
Xeo
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery Yesh
 
@DeadMG +1
 
@chmod711telkitty I'll ask around if you wish
 
Xeo
Can't wait already
 
@Wardy Good luck, I still get spam from them but I never even added profile details… just like 3 connections from university job fairs.
 
2:27 PM
spam for jobs I'm patently not qualified for, spam for jobs I'd never be interested in, spam about what jobs other people are getting (seriously?), that kind of thing.
 
@Potatoswatter tell me about it
 
what really bothers me are the people who email you for a job, and then they're like, "Send me your CV if you're interested"
 
would you guys pay for an email scanner that did that?
 
and I'm like, if you don't have my CV then what the fuck are you doing emailing me.
 
@DeadMG I'm not on LinkedIn and I get that sort of spam anyway.
 
2:27 PM
@DeadMG how do they know its relevant for you in the first place ... oh wait they dont its a way to farm CV's
 
shrug I guess your mileage may vary
 
user3010322
Hm.
 
yeah, LinkedIn just makes it worse.
 
Xeo
I get no job spam at all. Guess I'm not interesting enough!
 
user3010322
I need to take a bounds_iterator<n> and wrap it up so it iterates over some container T.
 
2:28 PM
I only get at most 4 emails linked to linkedin per week
 
user3010322
What do I call this...
 
user3010322
container_bounds_iterator ?
 
im_shit_iterator?
 
user3010322
That works.
 
wcstombs… just for the hell of it…
That name makes me think of people buried under toilets…
WCs = tombs
 
2:30 PM
wc tombstones
"He liked WCs more than anyone. May he fflush in peace."
@Xeo join groups I guess
 
Xeo
@AlexM. Well, I also have a job atm. :P
 
switching jobs when a better opportunity arises is not a sin you know
 
Xeo
I just blew 1.2k to renovate my flat, I am so not moving anytime soon.
 
it's not like you're tied to an employer forever :D
suit yourself; I think it's easier to look for jobs while you're employed, go to interviews, and if you can get the job notify your current employer that you'll leave in N weeks
you spend 0 time jobless
 
I.e. horrible.
 
2:34 PM
but if you're happy with your current job, there's no reason to move
 
I want to be jobless between jobs.
 
user3010322
Downtime and thinking time.
 
user3010322
Also crazy project time.
 
I don't
I don't want to stop a steady income stream
 
Xeo
I'd have enough buffer for a few months
 
2:35 PM
std::steady_income_stream<T>
 
I don't blast my steady income stream.
 
I can never have enough money :(
then again, I can't stop working either
 
I have enough to survive a year just fine.
 
so it's fine for me
 
oh I don't remember if I have complained about my current job btw
have I?
 
2:36 PM
So I would totally take six months between jobs.
 
user3010322
Nope.
 
user3010322
Get complaining.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Going purely by rent, I think I could do 4 months atm. But I'm going to get a kitchen and new PC soon, so that gets reduced to 2 months, at most :D
 
@Xeo That's not what I mean by "survival".
 
user3010322
Xeo, get the kitchen first.
 
2:38 PM
and get me in that kitchen afterwards
 
Xeo
I also hate the thought of asking for a raise. It never plays out well in my mind. And feels weird.
 
Rent, food, clothes, drinks, etc.
 
Paying rent on a kitchen won't do much good with no food.
 
still trying to find a way to put an oven in mine
 
so
 
user3010322
2:38 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ditch the place to live, keep only 4 sets of clothes, suddenly you have a lot of money for eating however you like (but no place to reliably cook it) (unless you're an awesome fire chef).
 
More than a year now since my last job, which wasn't much money.
 
puppy's CV, then.
 
I wonder if the owner of the apartment would agree for me to demolish part of the wall to place an oven there
 
university for a couple years; sickness; more sickness; some personal projects; now.
 
@ThePhD No, I mean I can survive a year as I am right now.
 
2:39 PM
problem solved.
 
@ThePhD WTF is a fire chef?
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, rent would be my biggest spending per months, so I was going by that, and then left a buffer for food etc
 
I just need to not have extraneous expenses (new PCs, kitchens, whatever)
 
Xeo
so yeah, 4 months of food, rent, stuffz
 
@DeadMG use your SO profile too
 
2:39 PM
yeah
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes I know, but what I meant was that's what I would do.
 
user3010322
I could save a lot of money not having to pay rent, if I could find a place that would shelter me from the rain.
 
Man, don't you just hate space indentation?
 
and allow you to store your stuff
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No.
 
user3010322
I don't own much except my laptop and a few pairs of clothes.
 
Xeo
2:41 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Stop trying to derail this discussion :P
 
@ThePhD And allow you to cook and eat meals. And provide electricity and bathing facilities. And a soft warm place to sleep.
 
user3010322
The monitor and external HDD I can leave with someone.
 
user3010322
@DeadMG All extraneous. If you're saying money, purchasing pre-cooked for a while isn't hard.
 
user3010322
Soft, warm place to sleep is optional (what do you need it for, you're not working hard at anything)
 
pre-cooked is more expensive usually
for sleeping, dude.
 
user3010322
2:41 PM
@DeadMG Not as expensive as rent. :D
 
I need a soft warm place to sleep for sleeping.
 
Yes, you can survive as a bum without any money.
So what?
 
I'll take all his disks above 1TB, I don't want any video cards.
 
user3010322
I'm just thinking through how I'd maximize my savings by tossing out things I don't need to absolutely survive.
 
Xeo
Did any of you guys (that have worked before...) ever ask for a raise?
 
2:43 PM
you'd probably kill yourself due to sleep deprivation.
 
@Xeo So far, no. I got offered all the raises I had.
 
@Xeo Nah - I just went somewhere else for more money.
 
Xeo
I mean, I can certainly live well with my current salary, but I sure would like a bit of a bigger buffer. Especially with my recent and near-future spendings in mind.
 
I don't feel like I'll need a raise any time soon.
 
On the last over night bush walking trip, I met a guy who's on the dole for a while, he said he bush walked for 3 months (over 1000km) with a tent and a sleeping bag, he ended up with more money in the bank than he started from the governments allowance
 
2:44 PM
@Xeo after my teammate decided to quit, I became the only Unity guy here
 
@Xeo Is it still around the same as when you started?
 
I'll get back to you in a couple of months max and tell you whether or not I am offered a raise
 
I remember that was close to my salary at the time.
 
Interesting concept. I wonder if it'll make a good game, though.
 
user3010322
@EtiennedeMartel YOu'RE LATE
 
user3010322
2:45 PM
By like, a year!
 
user3010322
Superhot's been out as a Unity game for free, they've been developing for a while.
 
I'm sorry for the guy tbh
 
Meh, fuck kickstarter.
 
he was not able to finish anything in 8 months, but it wasn't his fault really
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Kick fuckstarter
 
2:46 PM
I hope his morale is not below -9000 now
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not quite. I started at 1.9k, and got a raise to 2.5k after 6 months (I asked for 2.5k during the interview, but they didn't want to start there immediately, considering I had no prior job experience)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes So many scams there.
Guess if you make anything sound cool people will throw money at you :/
 
hmm
armpit hair on the right armpit is so annoying
my left hand is insufficiently dextrous to remove it easily
 
user1804599
2:49 PM
Burn it.
 
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery Well, it's pretty hard to remove armpit hair on the right armpit with the right hand.
and I'm pretty strongly right-handed.
 
o.o
 
44 secs ago, by rightfold
Burn it.
 
Why are you not using cream / razor
 
... that I'd have to wield with my left hand.
 
2:50 PM
How do you clip your nails?
 
user3010322
Wank with your left hand to increase its strength.
 
Xeo
Get an electric shear or something, if you fear cutting yourself :P
 
real men visit ukraine's borders and ask the soldiers there to kindly launch some missiles at their armpits
 
Are you disabled on your left hand?
 
I'm failing to see how you could be this bad at using your left hand.
 
2:51 PM
no, but it's not very good at directing force.
 
unless you move the razor left and right, there's almost 0 chance to cut yourself
you'll be fine
 
Worst case you cut yourself everywhere and get an armpit-period
But that shouldn't happen
 
I don't cut myself, it just doesn't remove the hair.
 
Xeo
You're not using a good razor
 
Why are you removing your armpit hair anyway?
 
2:52 PM
my right hand doesn't have a problem with it.
 
I plan to withdraw some of my superannuation based on "extreme financial hardship" - you know my app biz is not making much money and I am building a 2nd dwelling. Although if I sell the property, car I own and withdraw all my super I will probably end up with more than US$300k+ in cash ... that's not including my company, which currently is probably worthless :p But the principal home & a car is deemed "necessity" in life, so by that definition I am in "extreme financial hardship" rofl
 
Xeo
Shaving shouldn't need any force, really
 
If shaving doesn't remove hair then well I don't know what to suggest
 
@Rapptz Because I dislike it. Why else?
 
@Rapptz because armpit hair makes your armpit stink like fuck in less than a day since you last showered
 
2:52 PM
@AlexM. Right.
 
@AlexM. No repro.
 
it's also gross
 
@Xeo It's not the amount that's the problem. It's directing it correctly.
 
My hair does not have sweat glands.
Can't shave my armpits.
It causes rashes.
Rather have armpit hair than a rash
 
@Rapptz You should disinfect after shaving
Also shave on wet skin
 
2:54 PM
I did this already.
It's not worth the effort.
 
Xeo
I don't get rashes.
 
I don't hate my hair or anything nor am I self-conscious about it and blame my sweat glands on it.
 
inferior dna
2/10 would not merge with mine
 
He's not the one that needs to fight his DNA and shave.
> member type of the class of a variable
Love these titles.
 
gee gee
 
user3010322
2:57 PM
std::iterator_traits does not work on regular containers, does it?
 
Xeo
Is a container an iterator?
 
containers not iterators.
 
Xeo
Shush, that question was for the Derpstorm
 
@ThePhD I heard it also doesn't work on streams
 
user3010322
Guess I need to write std::container_traits then.
 
2:58 PM
why would you do such a thing
 
user3010322
bounds_iterator
 
Containers already have 999999999999999999999999999 typedefs.
 
You're clearly doing it wrong.
 
Xeo
I have an irrational fear of anything with the suffix _traits lately.
Mostly thanks to function_traits
 
2:58 PM
hah
 
user3010322
@Xeo Let's talk about function_traits
 
std::container_traits is the sort of thing you only think you need when you're already down the wrong path. Yep, like function_traits.
 
more like, noob_traits
 
Xeo
And its various incarnations.
 
user3010322
Well.
 
user3010322
2:59 PM
I have a bounds_iterator<n>. Which is fine, it returns index<n> on being deferenced.
 
user3010322
Now I need to make it work with real random-access containers. So I'm writing container_bounds_iterator<T, n>.
 
user3010322
Where T is any container.
 
user1804599
Use trait_traits to find out information about various traits.
 

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