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user3010322
9:00 AM
There's a ninja plugin for this thing, there has to be.
 
@FredOverflow Any version. It's a bug-ridden piece of shit that just sometimes happens to work
 
user1804599
IntelliJ is nice.
 
@CatPlusPlus We use it with hundreds of students every year, and I cannot remember the last time we noticed a bug.
 
It routinely fails at basic text editing stuff, like actually rendering text (try opening any Android XML file)
 
user3010322
Everything....
 
user3010322
9:03 AM
Is saying I should use CMake + Ninja...
 
user3010322
Why the hell does CMake have to be apart of hte equation...?
 
user3010322
Isn't Ninja good enough at building shit...?
 
Xeo
To generate Ninja files?
They're not meant to be hand-written
 
ITT Once more ThePhD is trying to do stuff without RTFM.
 
user3010322
I am reading the manual, that's why I'm confused. :c
 
9:05 AM
Come on, this is like the third paragraph or something.
 
Xeo
Btw @Bartek, you should tell the Robot from when to when exactly you'll be in Berlin
 
> Instead, Ninja is intended to be used with a separate program generating its input files.
 
Xeo
Hm, LRiO and Martin are also missing
 
> Some explicit non-goals:

= convenient syntax for writing build files by hand. You should generate your ninja files using another program.
 
user3010322
So writing them by hand is absolutely out of the question?
 
user3010322
9:07 AM
I have to eat the CMake? ;~;
 
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WAIT
 
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There's
 
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a separate build system for ninja files
 
Like CMake.
 
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@Rapptz Rapptz. RAAPPTZ, how far along is shiinoobiiii.
 
user3010322
9:08 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I meant not-CMake and not-QBuild/QMake whatever-it's-called..
 
I just use a Python script.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit hahaah - latest Mentalist dude :)
 
@Xeo Pure coincidence - we are not together!
I guess I should be on the Slack thingy
 
user3010322
Yeah....
 
user3010322
I'll... just... avoid QtCreator for now...
 
9:12 AM
lol, what a wuss.
 
user3010322
;~;
 
Come on, you were using VS. Your build can't be that complex.
 
How do I join the Slack unconference thing? Is there a team name/password?
 
Xeo
Robot or Cat needs your mail
 
@Xeo Robot has it. I'll ask.
 
9:16 AM
The password is mellon
 
I'm sorry for people who avoid QtCreator just cause they are lazy to set up build system >_>
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Please email me some Slack login stuff:)
 
Hell I avoid C++ entirely so I don't have to set up a build system
Build systems are horrible
 
That's a spirit! :D
 
9:17 AM
..and now I'm hungry.
 
Also BlueZ is fucking annoying me right now
 
user1804599
We have a build system for LESS, CS and LS. :V
 
Of course gnome-shell depends on a Bluetooth package
Why not
 
People who think they should ignore the way project is buil are... just ignorant
it's really important
except maybe for home projects :/
 
It shouldn't be
 
user3010322
9:19 AM
Doing a home project.
 
user3010322
vOv
 
I bet this rPi has a different version of BlueZ altogether
 
@CatPlusPlus That's crappy package managers for you.
 
Just use CMake projexct, bro. I love QtCrtr for it's speed and minimalism
 
@MartinJames I seem to have misplaced it. Give me a ping. (address in source code: github.com/rmartinho/nonius/blob/devel/include/nonius/…)
@CatPlusPlus I bet that would be an USE flag in portage.
 
9:24 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes 'Ping'......
 
@MartinJames No, I meant, by e-mail.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Done.
 
Hmmm, I don't see anything.
 
Wait..
 
Not even spam. Unless you're the Mr David Williams trying to give me an affordable 3% interest rate.
@MartinJames Ok, done.
 
9:29 AM
I derped. In my defense, I've only had one coffee so far.
 
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@Xeo Yeah, I stopped being dumb and figured it out. On the bright side, it now works pretty flawlessly. :D
 
user3010322
So I get the same semantics for std::array<... std::array<T, ...> ...> as I do for T[]...[]
 
user3010322
For my buffer_view class. It's very nice.
 
I so don't understand routing
 
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Strided and unstrided, bounds iteration, and everything else also work perfectly.
 
9:45 AM
Woo
So thanks to coliru 70% and 85%
One more assignment and no more numerical computations ever
 
@ThePhD Wait, is that what you wanted op[] for?
 
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?
 
@BartekBanachewicz :lol:
 
BlueZ's DBus interface is shit
Not that I'm surprised
 
@MartinJames I've had no coffees
the remedy to this situation is to get enough sleep :P
 
9:56 AM
@DeadMG no, it's not. #caffeinedrivendevelopment
 
@DeadMG Yeah, but there's beer, SO, TV shows and, if desperate, work.
 
eh
or try taking antidepressants, they can really fix it up for you.
ever since I started taking it I've been pretty regular sleeping with much less problem getting up in the morning
 
@DeadMG I'm currently taking Hobgoblin, Broadside and Directors as antidepressants.
 
lol
 
10:07 AM
Also, fuck. I want to be simultaneously at three places tomorrow evening. Where's an evil twin when you need one?
 
user3010322
But the evil twin might ruin your relationship and then you'd have ot embark on an adventure to fix the relationships he messed up?
 
twitch tv claims that it's large delay is because they switch to the new HLS streaming technology
but I can set up a HLS stream with like 5-10 secs =/
 
okay so
Starbucks sandwiches aren't worse the steep price I think
 
@ThePhD My evil twin knows how I think and vice-versa. I could totally strike a deal with my own evil self.
I planned this before.
 
user3010322
10:09 AM
And you don't think anything could go wrong?
 
The only thing that is really missing is the evil twin.
 
Xeo
Try enlisting a random stranger.
 
wow I am on tv
@nightcracker lol PoE
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes silicone mask is a lot cheaper than evil twins nowadays ... do you know someone who is skinny and is of the same height?
 
@Xeo 1) doesn't think like me; 2) doesn't look like me.
 
10:12 AM
@BartekBanachewicz xD
 
Xeo
You're a Robot, you surely have your methods.
 
I would trust my evil self a lot more than a random stranger.
 
Many methods across many interfaces
 
@BartekBanachewicz you play?
 
I'm getting fat
 
10:13 AM
told ya so :p
 
Xeo
Can't be all the pizza you're eating.
 
@nightcracker nah, I'm a casual player these days.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think you'd need more than one.
 
so it's mostly hearthstone
 
Maybe I should take up running
 
10:13 AM
OK, so now I gotta get the Slack app on my phone for comms in Berlin.
 
@BartekBanachewicz how does the stream look btw?
 
But it's so much effort
 
@BartekBanachewicz laggy or?
 
@nightcracker p good
 
@DeadMG Well, I'm not sure if I'm the neutral twin or the good twin, so I don't know who's the other one I'm seeking.
 
10:14 AM
@nightcracker at times. I am on sbucks wifi though :P
 
@nightcracker Hitbox has lower delays than that
 
@CatPlusPlus maybe try not eating, seems like less :effort: :v
 
I'm definitely not the evil twin.
 
@melak47 I'd need a better diet and that probably means cooking
 
Xeo
Yeah, you're no good with knifes, so can't be the evil twin.
 
10:15 AM
I already eat like once a day
 
@CatPlusPlus with RTMP?
@CatPlusPlus or HLS?
 
Dunno, haven't peeked
Probably RTP?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Anel. heh.
 
I know I watched a Hitbox stream with virtually no delay
 
10:16 AM
@Xeo Last Friday I cut myself with a cheese grater.
5
 
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o.0
 
Xeo
> so please help me, I will always great full to u thank you in advance
 
Robot confirmed cheese
 
user3010322
Ya'll stay out of my kitchen...
 
Let's just say that the supposedly vegetarian dinner I was helping prepare had a tiny chunk of flesh.
 
10:17 AM
uh fuck my laziness
fuck it forever
 
Real men use their own blood instead of ketchup
 
I haven't set up proxy for git
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes You're actively trying to fuck up when you handle even remotely sharp objects, aren't you?
 
@Xeo WTF, why would I?
 
and now instead 3 commits I have 3 separate folders
 
10:17 AM
Get a better knife technique dammit
 
I'm not crazy; just inept.
 
Xeo
Can't explain all that cutting otherwise anymore.
 
I'd like to bash telkitty out of anger
 
Hold the blade with your fingers
 
10:18 AM
yea hitbox is RTMP
with RTMP I had lower delays as well, but I had weird disconnection issues
 
fuck that
 
had to restart my stream a lot =/
not sure what caused it
 
maybe I'll clone it 3 times
 
Your ISP sucks
 
and then copy files over it
 
user3010322
10:18 AM
@Xeo His positronic brain implants these "ineptitudes" in his brain to convince him that he's meat.
 
no
the problem wasn't with the raw connection
 
Your router sucks
 
cat++, you need get a silicone mask to resemble Jeff Adwood, get into SO office, then change everyone's password
so much easier than hacking
 
@CatPlusPlus I repeat, there wasn't anything wrong with the raw connection
 
not that I tried either ...
 
10:19 AM
@nightcracker Well then your PC sucks :v
 
@CatPlusPlus something really has to sucks, no?
 
your sucks sucks
 
I think my nginx was misconfigured on my server or something
 
Eh, self hosted
 
but couldn't figure out what
 
10:20 AM
@Xeo Those things are dangerous, I'm clumsy, I know I am clumsy, I get scared, I fuck up.
 
So much bandwidth
 
@CatPlusPlus well, what do you think orlp.me is?
@CatPlusPlus seeing my name is Orson Raphael Lennard Peters?
 
user3010322
This... is going to be really hard. <_>
 
fat = less :effort: + pizza;
 
@nightcracker I'm not paying that much attention :v
 
10:21 AM
@Xeo You haven't seen me in the kitchen. Ask @sbi.
 
Cat++, I am just happy you are joining me & martin in the lounge fatties club :')
 
@chmod711telkitty :-|
 
oke fuck that I don't have any tests anyway
 
10:22 AM
so you could say all tests pass
time to commit
 
1920x1080 streaming lags my PC too much =/
 
Streaming 1080p is waste of bandwidth really
 
@ThePhD what is?
 
Xeo
10:23 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Did you try cut-resistant gloves?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You get more control this way
 
@CatPlusPlus yeah my phone has only 720p screen
 
@CatPlusPlus why?
 
@Xeo For that knife, you need chain-mail.
 
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@melak47 I have to implement some fancy shenanigans to make the slicing operation on operator[] work.
 
10:23 AM
@nightcracker Because you'll be lucky if people aren't dropping frames with 720 :v
 
@MartinJames Or the tiniest aptitude with sharp objects.
 
off to treat my chooks ... been bitten raw by mites/fleas/ticks on them :'(
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's safer to hold by the blade usually
 
itchy all over ^&%$#@
 
@CatPlusPlus depends on the application
 
10:24 AM
you get a better feeling of where it's at
 
@ThePhD Best to avoid mentioning 'slicing' while robot is around.
 
@CatPlusPlus with FPS games, maybe, but 1080p is far superior if I was doing a coding screencast
 
The handle is useful only for stabbing actually.
 
Also the hand thing is important too
So you don't cut your fingers off
 
10:24 AM
@BartekBanachewicz FFS, I cut myself with scissors opening a package. Without even noticing it.
 
@nightcracker Yawn coding screencasts
 
What do you mean "safer"?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes why not??
 
@CatPlusPlus oh yes that's true
 
what if you replace your hands with scissors, cutting your hands shouldn't be a problem anymore :)
 
10:25 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes stop being such a sissy, cuts happen. I cut my hand packing a rucksack for an extreme bike trip. That was the only scar I brought from said trip.
 
@melak47 inb4 Edward Scissorhands
 
@ScarletAmaranth will watch it in about 12 hours - no spoilers! (not that I need spoilers to tell me what's obviously gonna happen)
 
I sneezed.
 
@BartekBanachewicz It happens every time.
 
You suck at learning
 
10:26 AM
I currently have three cuts in my fingers healing.
 
And also at pain
 
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Robot is secretly a masochist.
 
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Plot Twist: he's also the sadist.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I should now take a photo of myself doing the " ^.- " face
 
let's schedule an intervention for June 7th :p
this cutting has got to stop.
 
10:27 AM
Tell Robot How To Cut Food Instead Of Fingers: a 3-hour seminar
 
What if fingers are food.
 
Xeo
You need to hold that during the Unconference
 
@Jefffrey Fingerfood?
 
@Jefffrey There was a tiny chunk in it on Friday.
 
@Xeo Cat Plus Plus is a confirmed no
 
user3010322
10:28 AM
Hm.
 
I'm bad at cooking and shit
 
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@Xeo I need your help, I think.
 
Never cut myself though
 
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Overloads and stuff for this operator be drivin' me nuts.
 
It's not a smooth operator eh? EH?
 
Xeo
10:29 AM
@nightcracker I know. I didn't say which Unconference.
 
@CatPlusPlus not much to cut oneself with a microwave dish :P
 
@Xeo you are bad and should feel bad
 
Xeo
What
Next Unconference is confirmed at Cat's place anyways
 
user3010322
Question, is this how you make SFINAE work: coliru.stacked-crooked.com/a/61de69995b9b84fd
 
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I feel like I'm, uh
 
user3010322
10:30 AM
Doing it wrong.
 
That's never gonna work.
 
@ThePhD s/LOOK/LOOKS/
That's the problem.
 
user3010322
Ah. I see I see.
 
lol ok
it's like 320x240
 
@Jefffrey It's fine. Omitting "does" is a very informal way of asking questions. It's supposed to be "[Does] this look okay?"
 
10:31 AM
webcam in this laptop is so freaking terrible
 
Xeo
@ThePhD Psst: you have no substitution for the substitution failure
 
nominally 520x370
 
user3010322
No substitution? I don't quite follow.
 
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Also THIS WOULDN'T BE A PROBLEM WITH STATIC_IF
 
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._.
 
10:32 AM
What's is_slicable_t::value
 
Xeo
SFINAE needs to be done on a dependent type of the template it is a part of
 
user3010322
@Xeo So it needs to be in an argument or on the return type?
 
No. It needs to depend on something that is getting substituted at instantiation time.
 
user3010322
10:34 AM
Oooh.
 
user3010322
I see.
 
Xeo
template<class T> struct X{
  template<EnableIf<test<T>>...> void f(); // WRONG
};

template<class T> struct X{
  template<class U = T, EnableIf<test<U>>...> void f(); // right
};
 
user3010322
Mmmm.... NOPE still failing.
 
user3010322
Gotta find a better substitutey thingy.
 
@CatPlusPlus What do you mean?
 
10:36 AM
uhplz
git push plz work plz
 
user3010322
@Xeo Can you have a std::size_t U = N or something of that nature instead of a typename U = T?
 
also eh drinks that are half ice
 
user3010322
And then EnableIf<test<U>> using that integer?
 
user3010322
I mean, does that... count?
 
Xeo
yes
 
10:39 AM
awesome track is awesome
the guitar bit especially
 
do I want a muffin
 
> 'Tis workin'.
Ambiguous apostrophes are ambiguous.
 
do I want to spend an african's child monthly food cost for a lunch
@R.MartinhoFernandes haha
 
user3010322
YAAAAY
 
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IT WORKS
 
user3010322
10:42 AM
... Ish.
 
user3010322
Kinda.
 
user3010322
I mean, it's having a conniption now
 
user3010322
But at least it's there.
 
is this one of the worst things for sale
 
user3010322
10:43 AM
Lmao.
 
user3010322
Clearly, we need UV to prove to people where dirt goes.
 
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Argh.
 
user3010322
I hate std::initializer_list
 
user3010322
It's the worst.
 
I was looking for a blacklight flashlight needsmorewordsendinginlight and that was in the "frequently bought with" list.
 
Xeo
10:45 AM
std::initializer_list hates you.
 
@ThePhD Why?
 
Xeo
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery Lesson learned: Don't 'own' an owner :P
 
Please don't tell me you're using containers instead of iterators or pointers.
 
MOD ABUSE BRING BACK LIGHTNESS FOR FAIRNESS
3
 
Xeo
10:45 AM
May 15 at 13:28, by Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz Lesson learned: Don't 'nanana' room owners. :P
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes Uhm.
 
user3010322
About that...
 
I'll keep watching NGNL~
 
> Choke the chicken, spank the monkey, charm the snake-however you refer to it, none of the images in this book will encourage you to pleasure yourself. This deceptively simple and strangely addictive book presents a laugh-out-loud collection of random pictures virtually guaranteed to dampen the urge of even the strongest libido.
 
No Glove No Love
 
Xeo
10:46 AM
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery Which episode?
 
6, just started
 
Xeo
It's awesome
6 was just totally, positively awesome
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes In all fairness, I need it to take a single argument to construct (e.g., my_view[ { stuff, stuff, meow } ]
 
Doesn't matter.
 
user3010322
10:47 AM
So I use an initializer list. But... I don't get things like shortening and what not.
 
user3010322
Like, uh.
 
You just grab a pair of pointers from it and call it a day.
 
Xeo
You don't need an initializer_list there
 
@ThePhD Wait what.
 
user3010322
index<1> arfa{ index<2>{ 2, 1 } }; // arf should just be '2'
index<1> arfb{ bounds<2>{ 2, 1 } }; // arf should just be '2'
index<1> arfc{ my_2_1_array }; // arf should just be '2'
 
Xeo
10:48 AM
You can use any type with implicit construction on that number of arguments (as long as you don't have deduction)
 
user3010322
Mmm. I'll just have a universa AUGH DAMNIT
 
user3010322
I need implicit single-item constructors...
 
user3010322
(For index<1>)
 
in JavaScript, 1 min ago, by MADTerry
@barket Time to upgarde your pC
 
user3010322
I can't use a index<n>( T&& constructorarg )
 
user3010322
10:51 AM
@BartekBanachewicz Barket!
 
user3010322
Baskets.
 
totally.
fuck it I want another coffee
 
user3010322
Maybe... it wouldn't be so bad...
 
user3010322
To try a universal reference with a template constructor.
 
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I'm sure nothing could go wrong, really...
 
10:53 AM
lalalala lalala lalala
 
@Bartek you should check up on Slack.
 
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WOOPS
 
10:58 AM
@ThePhD ah! we saw your secret code! Now we can foil your systems and win!
 
@sehe Or just criticise
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You don't notice it :v
 
Nah. I'd never. No tangible win
 
Now, let's have a look at it.
@CatPlusPlus I have... evolved a thick skin?
 

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