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7:00 PM
@ScarletAmaranth The series is at its best when it's light-hearted. The main plot is super boring.
 
Programming is terrible
It will never be good
 
@CatPlusPlus Programming is fun. Stop whining, you silly cat.
I'm starting to think you're secretly French.
 
la programmation est terrible
 
Like, lightweight French: you whine, but never get to the point where you throw bricks around.
 
Fire ze missiles
 
7:01 PM
fuck I burned my mouf again.
I should really learn to do better.
 
Also you should read Cucumber Quest
 
dude
I still can't access loungecpp.net
 
if hacker news is any indication, Go apparently cures cancer ; )
 
Maybe you should've pinged me or opened a ticket I dunno
Also it works fine
 
pity that HN is worthless tripe
 
7:02 PM
Problem on your end
HN is worse than /r/programming
 
Sure, but what to do? It's the only site that gives me this strange virtualhost error.
 
@StackedCrooked I don't even know yet what the main plot is to be fair, I just saw them defeat some guy trying to steal a hand
 
Am I the only person that gets annoyed when I read "an order of magnitude" and the article doesn't mention whether it’s binary or decimal
 
I tried flushing my browser and dns cache but no luck
 
@kbok Dump the conversation with the server with Wireshark
 
7:03 PM
Okay
 
Or Firebug or whatever
 
Firebug is not very useful
 
@ScarletAmaranth just found this
 
7:08 PM
@StackedCrooked ahahah why am I not surprised this exists :D
 
it's pretty good
 
I'm not sure what to do with it
 
I sent the same headers as you (minus the compression stuff) and got the expected response
 
@ScarletAmaranth i wonder who invented it and what was he thinking
 
7:12 PM
I also verified that the jeb.piotrl.pl domain resolves to the same IP as loungecpp.net, so unless the VHost error page is displaying the wrong domain, you're connecting to the correct server.
 
@StackedCrooked I don't think one can that easily comprehend what goes trough minds of Japanese people :)
 
@kbok Look at the connection in Wireshark and tell me what IP you're connecting to
 
At this point I can only surmise that Cat is selectively forwarding incoming HTTP connections from certain IP blocks to some second, unconfigured server ;)
 
weird japanese stuff?
 
Unless this is a very weird nginx bug, you must have some kind of broken proxy between you and the server
 
7:13 PM
 
Also yes the server is correct, this is a default vhost
 
Wireshark capture of the request as it appears on the server would be useful
 
Okay it's fixed
 
@CatPlusPlus It was 2a01:4f8:192:63ce::2:
I disabled IPv6 and it worked
 
7:15 PM
Hm
 
I don't really need it, but I guess it would be nice to fix it
 
@Nicolás Not that weird.
It's that Japanese kind of "weird", that is, standard weirdness.
I mean, weird, yes, but always in the same way.
ISO weird.
 
Wow, there's an issue tracker as well
 
Like, even when they're doing weird shit, they have little to no creativity.
 
It's a new world
 
7:19 PM
yeah man, Japanese aren't creative.
 
@Rapptz They're a bit heavy on tradition.
Kinda clashes with creativity.
 
Wow, you're actually serious.
 
Eh, I don't even know why AAAA entry is there
 
@Rapptz Any account I've read by Westerners who have spent time in Japan goes in that direction.
 
lmao
 
7:24 PM
So, said differently, by Western standards, Japan is not creative.
Make of that what you will.
 
IPv6 is now nuked
 
Trying
Nope, same message again
 
Honestly, I just find it strange that you actually think this is true. That's some kind of shitposting bait I expect on 4chan.
 
Oh wait tis a DNS, nevermind
 
@Rapptz I know I can't generalize to the whole country. I'm just saying all the anecdotal evidence I've heard seems to point towards that general idea. And, yeah, I know the plural of "anecdote" isn't "data".
 
7:31 PM
@kbok lulz
 
@ScarletAmaranth imagine having to perform while being hungover
@EtiennedeMartel normal weird
 
7:44 PM
I thought this isnt server fault
:p
 
Trying to figure this out.
Japanese are good at inventing magic tricks.
 
from a friend: thats not a bug! bug is something that doesnt work according to the specification.. WELL we dont have no specification
~.~
 
@corpseRott We don't need no specification.
 
Specification is nice to have
 
Bricks shouldn't write code
 
7:51 PM
@CatPlusPlus Thank you for getting the reference.
 
#define RETURN(result) return (result);}

int myfunction1(args) {
int x = 0;
// do something
RETURN(x)

int myfunction2(args) {
int y = 0;
// do something
RETURN(y)

int myfunction3(args) {
int z = 0;
// do something
RETURN(z)
 
@StackedCrooked nice
@StackedCrooked pretty easy to figure it out, though
also, you can buy it if you like:
 
I didn't figure it out.
 
@corpseRott ew!
 
7:52 PM
:D
 
@StackedCrooked he's obviously manipulating the plaques, probably transferring a second/third layer between them
 
Yeah, I thought of that. He could have 3 cards.
 
I just found that on rotflcopter
 
However, the way he holds them doesn't indicate that.
 
comment:
Yes that's right, no closing braces in any of the functions. Syntax highlighting was a mess, so he used vi to edit (not vim, it has syntax coloring!)

He was a Russian programmer who had mostly worked in assembly language. He was fanatical about saving as many bytes as possible because he had previously worked on systems with very limited memory. "It was for satellite. Only very few byte, so we use each byte over for many things." (bit fiddling, reusing machine instruction bytes for their numeric values) When I tried to find out what kinds of satellites, I was only able to get "Orbiting sat
 
7:54 PM
Showing two cards as one would require a pinched grip where you create a bend, in order to prevent them from sliding apart.
 
@corpseRott wat
in soviet russia, compiler uses you!
 
He had two other quirks: A convex mirror mounted above his monitor "For knowing who is watching", and an occasional sudden exit from his chair to do a quick ten pushups. He explained this last one as "Compiler found error in code. This is punishment".
 
Mikhail just want to wrestle bear
 
Maybe they are magnetic.
 
GitlabCreateError: 404: {"message":"404 Not Found"}
How does that work
 
7:56 PM
lol
 
> reusing machine instruction bytes for their numeric values
how does that work?
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked say you have instruction 0x78 0x28 and by accident you need that value somewhere anyway.
 
@corpseRott That sounds so much like the Story of Mel.
Not in terms of the specifics, but in terms of the hardcoreness.
 
AWWW FUCK!!! I accidentally clicked my rep icon.
10
 
lol
 
8:01 PM
they used to teach us that on embedded programming on my uni
 
user1804599
About the nastiest thing I’ve ever done was converting a function pointer to a void pointer, memcpying bytes from it into a mmap’ed buffer with the PROT_EXEC flag set, replacing some constants and then converting a pointer to the buffer back into a function pointer.
 
for fuck's sake mysticial
 
+assemly optimization
 
how will I ever get code golf rep now?
 
but i live in the wild east
 
user1804599
8:01 PM
That way I could convert arbitrary function objects to function pointers. :3
 
this was NOT our deal
 
@Mysticial hah
 
wtf, thats to hardcore honestly..
I am reading the story of mel now, havent seen it before
 
I promise myself, I will always scroll down before attempting to touch my url bar.
Fucking iphone.
 
I think it's fine for me to sue apple for that
 
8:04 PM
You're holding it wrong, obviously
 
maybe if every apple employee upvotes your answers, you'll get the rep as it was before
 
user1804599
Yay I got 4k rep.
 
I had been hired to write a FORTRAN compiler
for this new marvel and Mel was my guide to its wonders.
Mel didn't approve of compilers.

“If a program can't rewrite its own code”,
he asked, “what good is it?”
What the hell
 
@EtiennedeMartel that was great
 
@corpseRott the concept is very old
 
8:16 PM
@StackedCrooked also horrible... :)
 
yeah but why
simply... why
why would anyone think about making the program rewrite its own code
 
it's how nature works
so it's a "natural" way of thinking :P
 
could it be potentially powerful? sure, but our puny brains can't handle it
 
Of course its powerful. But it's also hard to reason about.
And hard to debug.
 
yeah, our brains can't handle :)
 
8:28 PM
@Mysticial now gets it. FINALLY
 
@corpseRott Back in the 50s and 60s, they didn't use call stacks and stuff. You used self-modification put in return addresses when calling subroutines. That's how MIX (Knuth's original architecture for earlier editions of The Art of Computer Programming) works, IIRC.
(Just one example of the common usages of self-modifying code back in the day.)
 
@sehe you should have picked c# tonigh, we outrep c++ tonight :)
 
@JohanLarsson meh
 
Heck, even when I was doing 8086 assembly programming as a teenager, I used self-modifying code too. But you can't do it these days, since most systems use W^X and similar memory protection techniques.
 
What is W^X?
 
8:31 PM
> memory protection technique
DEP
 
Oh, just found the wikipedia page.
Didn't expect Google to find it so easily.
 
Sam
what projects are you actually developing in c++?
 
I secretly use java, don't tell anyone
 
@Sam Vapourware.
 
Sam
Alex, what a shame :(
 
8:33 PM
ikr
 
People, I have a question.
 
ok i'm ready
 
So. I have a class (let's call it NetworkObject with a move constructor. And there's a method that's defined like so NetworkObject & getObject();
 
Sam
i think that's a pointer reference
 
@EtiennedeMartel that's not a question
 
8:38 PM
When I do NetworkObject o = getObject();, the move constructor isn't called, which is what I expect. However, it doesn't get called when I do NetworkObject o = NetworkObject(getObject());
What's going on.
 
@EtiennedeMartel The latter does one copy constructor in total.
 
@StackedCrooked Oh.
 
> If passed as header, the header name must be "PRIVATE-TOKEN" (capital and with dash instead of underscore)
 
6 hours ago, by sehe
You know. I've spent 16 hours now trying to get a JTabbedPane to render correctly. Top that
 
Good job, GitLab, you fucking incompetent hacks
HTTP HEADERS ARE FUCKING CASE INSENSITIVE YOU IDIOTS
 
8:40 PM
#nerdrage
 
Sam
guys what ide are you using?
 
several. Vim on all platforms. A bit of eclipse. And a bit of MSVS2013
 
Sam
codeblocks sucks?
 
@EtiennedeMartel I don't know the formal semantic stuff, but I'm pretty sure that's what it boils down to.
 
Yes
 
Sam
8:41 PM
why?
 
@sehe I only Android, so I never had those issues
 
@Sam All IDEs suck
@AlexM. hehe you have all the others though
 
that's true I guess
 
Sam
@sehe my nerd level is not high enough for code in a text editor
 
@Sam Visual Studio.
 
8:43 PM
it doesn't help that Google sort of likes the idea that if something works, it doesn't matter how !intuitive or difficult it is for the programmer to use
 
@Sam You don't need nerd level. Just discipline and a will to excel. It takes surprisingly little time to get used to that
@AlexM. abstract it :)
 
even so, you still have to deal with it at least once
but yeah I get what you're saying
 
Yup
 
Sam
@EtiennedeMartel Visual studio is better than codeblocks?(why)
 
@Sam CodeBlocks suffers from standard open source UI design issues.
(By that I mean it looks like absolute ass)
 
8:46 PM
@Sam more mature, more integrated, better extensibility.
 
@Mysticial YESSSSS, finally
 
However, VSExpress doesn't do the plugin dance, so it'd lose
@Jefffrey you meanie
 
;)
 
Sam
@EtiennedeMartel VS actually support a gui designer like with c#?
 
8:47 PM
@Sam huh. If resource editors with MFC count... Or XAML with c++/cli
 
UE4 looks good.
 
It does :)
 
the editor looks useful
 
@Rapptz Holy tits yes. Makes me feel bad for my own tools.
 
Are comments on Scott Meyer's blog moderated? I just wrote one and cliked "publish", but it doesn't appear in the comments
Perhaps something went wrong
 
8:51 PM
@Rapptz I went ahead and subbed last night.
I went through all the demo levels
 
the entire video is pretty impressive
 
I'm gonna play with it later today
 
@AndyProwl Yeah, it's probably is pending for approval.
 
I see
 
Or that seems most likely to me.
 
8:53 PM
so I'm not going to repost it :)
the thing is I had to create a Google+ account for that or something similar
and I thought I went through all the steps, but you never know
 
Oh shit the flippable lamp, idk why but i really like that
 
Xeo
@AndyProwl you don't
you can just post anonymously
and my comment showed up instantly
 
Oh, ok. I didn't see that option
 
Sam
VS is trolling me, don't let me include iostream
 
@Jefffrey I hate your ass. :D Just watch. Provided nothing catastrophic happens, it should be back in about 3 months.
 
9:00 PM
@Mysticial Well I've been at 15 rep for a few days which means even though you jsut reset it youre still beating me in a matter of hours :(
 
@Rapptz like UDK
 
@Sam good feature, that
 
uh... ok
 
man
those VOX amps sound really great
 
yes, present?
 
9:03 PM
I mean this is a crappy modeler
and I just dig that sound so much
I'll rec something
 
spelling bee: /rack/ or /wreck/
 
user1804599
Haaaii:3
 
@Mysticial Till then I can stop being jelly every time you post a screenshot ;)
 
Think you might have missed a comma there, @FoxNews. h/t @ThePoke http://t.co/V7pmZfCJNj
 
@EtiennedeMartel Kismet Blueprint debugging. FINALLY :D :D :D
 
9:06 PM
hahaah
 
Sam
solved, actually vs put all external dependencies into std namespace
 
@Rapptz that's pretty cool
 
omg, 3 minutes of random noises
now I will listen to it and conclude it's terrible and won't post anywhere
maybe I should post it without listening to it
 
Ah, I did not click on "continue to blogger"
 
@sehe, that was a sexy sample though ;)
 
9:10 PM
@Jefffrey it is
Dang, I +1ed, but it didn't s[h]tick
 
probably because I deleted the answer
 
who is Travis Owens anyway?
@ScarletAmaranth I knew the answer :)
 
@CatPlusPlus so how is that vagrant thing?
 
@ScarletAmaranth somewhat obvious for people who know std::string can store '\0'
 
9:14 PM
huh, I've never really tried, I suck, vOv (that's no news)
 
this made me very sad today btw
she's 14
 
@bamboon Uh, good?
 
@CatPlusPlus Ok, cool. What do you use it for?
 
> I believe each additional null character will in fact increase the string length by one.
ba-dum-tshhh
 
Development. Testing
 
9:16 PM
@CatPlusPlus What specifically? Languages, what kind of tests
 
Unit tests. Normal tests. I just use VMs to develop with
 
friday night playing minecraft... how pathetic of me
 
@CatPlusPlus Hmm ok, let's say you have a more or less not too special python program, I don't see the advantage in using that if you are anyway on linux?
 
@Mysticial ...
 
@Jefffrey FNM(inecraft)?
 
user1804599
9:21 PM
Is it just me or does American news always look horrible?
 
user1804599
Like, with a coloured background and tiny footage.
 
@Griwes ?
 
> but what you have there looks fantastic .... when ue5 ???
Ah, YouTube.
 
@EtiennedeMartel clearly troll
 
Friday Night Magic (or FNM) is a format of tournaments, held on Friday nights in gaming stores and associations all across the world. They are designed to be a beginner-friendly introduction to organized play. To make it easier on newer players, FNM tournaments are run at Regular rules enforcement level, which is the least stringent REL. This is used to encourage players to learn the correct way to play, readying them for more strict tournaments. Friday Night Magic tournaments can be one of four Formats: standard constructed, booster draft, sealed deck, or Two-Headed Giant. The Two-Head...
 
9:23 PM
yeah basically
@BartekBanachewicz, Oh by the way I've found a weird stronghold and I believe it has the end portal somewhere
 
@BartekBanachewicz have you installed any mod? I've never seen such a stronghold before
 
user1804599
Well.
 
user1804599
What shall I make today.
 
nope
eh fuck i can't play guitar I'm too tired to practice
I was thinking about working on glisha for a while
but nope too tired
uh
 
9:30 PM
@BartekBanachewicz never seen anything like this in a stronghold
 
Xeo
@Jefffrey every stronghold has an end portal...
 
those new patches changed a lot
 
@bamboon Isolation, identical environments
 
@Xeo yeah, I thought it was a modded stronghold of something like that
 
@CatPlusPlus hmm yeah, but isn't that a little overkill for smaller projects?
 
9:36 PM
only now I've discovered that is actually a "Store room" and it's in vanilla mc
 
@bamboon No
 
@CatPlusPlus Ok I will try it then. How is the distributed environment feature?
 
Dunno, I don't use it
 
ah ok, that's actually what I am interested the most
 
> Sommerlad's Rule of Zero
^ Booo at that
Everybody know it's robot's
 
9:45 PM
@AndyProwl hm
 
@AndyProwl I think we had that paper here already sometime ago
 
@bamboon It's not a paper
 
it's a presentation
 
lol pedants, call it whatever you want \o/
 
it's pedant not pendant
 
9:48 PM
I'm not a pendant :P
 
you guys are being pendantic
 
@Rapptz ah you are right, thanks
was always wondering that, I think now I can remember ^^
 
@AndyProwl I've seen this guy in Dusseldorf
His talk was rather boring
 
@AndyProwl lol, there is not even a German page for that
 
@kbok Don't know, I've seen his name a few times but never really read anything he wrote, apart from that Rule of 5 proposal
he seems ok
@bamboon lol Italian's missing too
 
9:51 PM
Oh, his talk was pretty decent
 
wtf is "Simple English"
 
@AndyProwl English with all the non-simple words and constructs removed.
 
@AndyProwl "Up Goer Five"
 
You guys are trolling me aren't you
 
Nope
It's really that way
 
9:53 PM
> The Simple English Wikipedia is an English edition of the online encyclopedia Wikipedia, primarily written in Basic English and Special English
I'm lost
 
click more
it has a specific definition
 
I trust you
 
@AndyProwl Sentences that use these words only and are simple grammatically enough for a foreign language user (or someone who can't deal with complexity) to understand.
well, not really "only" but it's a good guideline
 
Interesting
 
there's a page in there that teaches you how
 
9:56 PM
there's no way to say "shit" in that language
 
"human" is also not there. Gotta us "man or woman"
 
it's not really strict
 
I see
@Rapptz Yes yes ok
You pendant
 
I find it funny how they have scientific classification for animals
 

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