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7:14 AM
Is the entire network timing out?
nvm, it's back
 
which network?
 
All of StackExchange
It timed out for me for about a few minutes
 
morning
 
user3920237
hello.
 
@Rapptz Nobody wants C++.
 
7:26 AM
I love the smell of proxy iterators in the morning ideone.com/xp0kpW
 
The whole site really went down this time right?
 
yes
 
morning folks
 
evening
 
7:35 AM
Morning
 
Good afternoon
 
Mawning
 
user142019
HELLO
 
I slept 12hrs last night
 
user142019
I haven't slept all night and I'm not tired at all.
 
7:37 AM
I must have been tired
 
@TonyTheLion ¬_¬ are we all going to proclaim how we actually got an alright sleep last night
@rightfold it's not a competition you know
 
@thecoshman am I everyone? Last time I checked I wasn't, and also, I can say whatever the fuck I want.
 
user142019
@thecoshman Wat.
 
Pirate is in a bad mood apparently
 
user142019
I was just having fun all night. Is that a problem?
 
7:38 AM
No
 
jumped the gun.
 
Sleep is for the weak.
 
oh xkcd, you crack me up
@TonyTheLion ¬_¬ yesterday we all proclaimed how we had very little sleep...
 
@thecoshman So what?
Yesterday is gone, today is a new day.
 
@TonyTheLion well I'm glad some body cleared that up for me :P
@TonyTheLion ... never mind, it's clearly too early for you
 
7:40 AM
@thecoshman Well, what other conclusions am I to take from your statements?
Is this some kind of sarcasm I can't grasp?
 
@TonyTheLion I don't even know any more :(
 
user142019
@Rapptz that's just… fucking awesome.
 
let it not be said that guy doesn't think ahead :P
 
7:44 AM
@TonyTheLion things have changed. You are now everyone.
Congratulations on the promotion
 
user142019
@ThePhD Actually… not sleeping makes you weak.
 
Lies!
 
@jalf oh interesting. Thanks guise :)
 
@rightfold well, not getting the right amount makes you weak
 
user142019
I assume "the right amount" is more than zero, isn't it?
 
7:50 AM
But I think "not sleeping" can be safely considered a subset of "not getting the rigth amount of sleep"
Okay, fuck browsers.
 
Browsers fuck?
 
no, browsers suck
 
I can't make up my mind
A friend is over from another country in London over the weekend, and wants to have a coffee with me, but for me to get to London and back will cost me £70, and take me 5hrs or something insane. I'd really like to spend time with this person, but the time it takes to get there and the money it costs, it just seems much.
what do you guys think?
 
Close your eyes and make a snap decision
don't overthink it
 
Also, make sure this factors into the decision: do they have a particularly nice ass or a wonderful pair of tits?
 
7:54 AM
What was your initial thought when (s)he suggested meeting up?
 
Sounded like a good idea
 
@TonyTheLion then do it
 
Just do it.
 
Nike: Just do it.
lol
 
The alternative is to perform some kind of exhaustive cost-benefit analysis, and then you'd still be in doubt at the end about whether or not it was the right decision
 
7:56 AM
heh, yea
 
@TonyTheLion Maybe be better to meet in the middle, like in Birmingham or Manchester
 
@TheForestAndtheTrees No, that isn't going to work very well.
 
@rightfold too much sleep is bad for you too
 
user142019
Why do you think that I'm a programmer?
 
@TonyTheLion how often would you get the chance to meet them. I would do a lot to spend five minutes with someone if it was my only ever chance, but I wouldn't be too fussed about popping to town to meet a friend I see all the time
 
Xeo
8:00 AM
@TonyTheLion Flip a coin, you'll know what you actually want as soon as you flip it :)
 
@thecoshman I don't see them very often at all
 
@jalf no, he would doubt his ability to do a cost-benefit analysis.
@TonyTheLion then it's probably worth doing, and probably worth pushing for more then just a quick coffee
 
@TonyTheLion Is this person's time worth E70 to you?
 
@thecoshman Lunch is probably what its going to be.
 
@Mysticial Yeah. It was happening with me too. So, even I just wanted to make sure.
 
8:03 AM
@TonyTheLion Maybe do it on a weekend instead, spend a whole day rampaging on the town!
That way you're sure to get your money's worth.
 
@ThePhD if the other person is coming to the UK, rescheduling probably is not an option
 
@TonyTheLion all you are willing to give, or all they can spare?
 
@jalf Hm, true dat.
 
Anyway, when I'm in doubt, it usually helps to remember that you don't have to pick the optimal choice. It's not an optimization problem to be solved. You're just deciding what to do with a single day of your life. It's not a big deal if you make a suboptimal choice
 
@jalf this. the person is in London this weekend.
@jalf ah a good perspective.
 
8:05 AM
So just saying "yeah, I'll go", or "nah, I'd rather stay home is no big deal. Neither is going to permanently ruin your life
 
@thecoshman probably all this person has time for.
 
@jalf LIFE MUST BE LIVED OPTIMALLY.
 
@jalf I would hope it isn't going to ruin my life
 
@TonyTheLion yeah I would probably go for it
 
8:07 AM
Did SO go offline for you guys too, for like a minute or two?
 
@TonyTheLion "why are you doing this to me?" "remember 50 years ago, I was in London, you had a free day, but chose not to come visit me..." "erm... yeah, I figured it wasn't worth it for a few minutes like" "well THAT is why I am slowly grinding you in the comically oversized meat grinder, it will take about as long it takes me to drink this coffee"
@TonyTheLion yeah :( was a scary few minutes
 
@thecoshman ahahahaha
 
@Xeo Good Morning Xeo-sama~
 
i gotta tell you
Dead Trigger is an awesome game
but TIL (well yesterday but to the point) that NVidia is blocking Ultra High settings on phones without Tegra
of course Nexus' GPU (Qualcomm powered lil' monster) can handle it just fine
so it's just scumbag nvidia forcing you to buy a tegra device :/
There's a way to unlock these features, but I'd have to wipe and root
 
Could also be power consumption reasons or lifetime reasons?
 
8:11 AM
@BartekBanachewicz so do these guys :)
 
Ahoy
 
@jalf arrrr!
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz You got a Nexus 4, right?
 
Xeo
k, since I'm pretty sure my Nexus 7 has a Tegra quad-core.
So I was wondering. :)
 
8:16 AM
Hey guys, given a template <typename SequenceType> how can you express the type of one element ?
 
oh now really, this is taking things too far. A fucking class to wrap up a boolean value!
 
@ereOn typename SequenceType::value_type
That will only work for certain containers, however.
 
@ereOn value_type comes to mind.
 
@ThePhD: Will that work with say, an dumb array ?
 
@ereOn How dumb are we talking?
 
8:18 AM
Not std::array
:(
 
std::array dumb or int arr[10] dumb?
Oh, okay
 
like : double data[] = { 0, 1, 2 };
 
Xeo
typename std::iterator_traits<decltype(std::begin(std::declval<SequenceType&>()))>::value_‌​type
Man that looks gross.
 
^ I was going to type that out
 
oO okay ! Thanks ;)
 
8:19 AM
... Oh my god I was going to say the same thing as Xeo <3333
 
:p
 
Template Apprentice: Level up!
 
Xeo
Although you probably actually want ADL begin
For non-std containers that don't have member begin
 
FTR there isn't a comprehensive container or sequence concept ecosystem like there is for e.g. iterators. So there's no definitive answer, it depends a bit on what you want to do.
 
Xeo
Ya
 
8:20 AM
God... I just came across a user posting the same wrong answer to multiple old Java questions...
I don't even know how to...
 
Go to sleep? <3
 
If I get this right, std::declval is to express an type that might not be default constructible ?
 
There's a chance Boost.Range's range_value trait supports arrays out of the box though, no?
@ereOn No req. on destructability either.
 
@LucDanton: Nice ! Thanks.
 
Okay
So my skeletal system seems tow ork
Now I need to create animations.
 
8:22 AM
@Xeo it does. Get Dead Trigger, you ain't gonna regret it (Free2Play)
 
Whole boatloads of animations.
 
I've just looked at 8 of your answers, and at least 5 of them are wrong or do not work. Please, make sure you test your answers before you post. — Mysticial 7 secs ago
Even if I wanted to downvote all of them, I wouldn't be able to because of the script.
 
Script?
 
may be it is giving the right answer sorry if it can't satisfy your output — CodeMadness 4 mins ago
 
Xeo
@Mysticial Split it up
Everyone take two
Organised newbie downvoting :D
 
8:25 AM
I downboated 3 answers.
 
Apr 24 at 11:05, by Luc Danton
Breaking news: voting ring discovered in C++ chatroom.
 
Xeo
lol
 
When did you link it?
 
actually as soon as I posted that I remembered that I posted it on reddit today while making an argument against getters/setters.
 
8:31 AM
When did you post it? I don't see it on the recent SO submissions to reddit list.
 
Fuck it! I'm going to meet this person! Wooo :)
 
5 hours ago as a comment
 
ah, as a comment
 
yeah I've never posted links to SO outside before so it's a bit weird seeing it.
"Ravioli code"
 
@TonyTheLion it better be good :P
 
8:44 AM
YES
FINALLY
Scored a DX11 question
Hopefully I get upvotes for that shit
So I can bump OpenGL off my list
 
lemme downvote.
:P
 
"tracking time debugging"
nice title.
 
Anyone know if code clone detection works for C++ in VS 2012 ultimate?
 
@soandos lol is there such feature?
 
someone downvoted it but it wasn't me, so I gave you a +1.
 
8:49 AM
hey, that sounds nice, I want to try it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz there is for c# at least
and the documentation does not say its only for managed langauges
 
where should I look for it... oh ok
 
> The code clone analyser searches for duplicate code in Visual C# and Visual Basic projects throughout your Visual Studio solution.
nothing for Visual C++
cool thing though
 
8:51 AM
Well thats annoying
 
I think we have to repeat "C++ is harder to parse" crap again
I wonder if we ever get C++ tools even comparable to C# or Java ones.
 
C++ is really second class in VS
 
because I won't even dream about them being better.
 
@soandos Pretty much
 
yea fuckers last time I said that I was sent to hell.
 
8:53 AM
Anyone know if there is a tool to do this?
 
hardly. How large is the codebase?
 
quick google search
 
Too large (~20 files or so, not huge, but still a pain)
 
20 files is quite small
you can do it by hand.
 
> Running against a large source base such as the entire 390,309 LOC* (1.2 million lines of raw source) in 4,242 files of the JDK 1.5.0_13 source, identified 66,375 duplicate LOC* in 1,260 files in less than 10 seconds using as little as 48M of heap**!
 
8:55 AM
if you had 200 files that would be harder.
 
That sounds pretty cool.
 
@Rapptz I might give it a shot, but I doubt my code has many dupes
 
@Rapptz What do they mean by LOC vs "lines of raw source"?
LOC ignores blank lines and such, maybe?
 
> * A line of code is any line considered to be significant. Blank lines, comments, etc. do not count towards this figure.
 
ah right
I'm guessing they had a lot of duplicate lines with just a } then :)
 
8:57 AM
hehe I assume braces is in that "etc" hopefully
 
let's parse 390309 empty lines
@Rapptz found 28032 duplicates of for
 
How'd you find a download link?
 
Does it just search for individual duplicate lines, or duplicated multi-line blocks of code?
 
oh it's under Get It Now
 
@Rapptz "get it now"
 
user142019
8:58 AM
boo
 
Man
 
To be fair, it shouldn't be in the bottom.
 
A lot of people are having trouble enumerating adapters
for DirectX
It's working fine for me. :O
 
A lot of people having trouble DirectX FTFY
 

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