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2:00 PM
urghhh, again. FFS
 
@sbi Can you Boost.Fusion?
 
Xeo
@sbi Oooh, tuple_for_each in C++03
 
@sbi Have an upvote
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes I think so. I'd rather not, but if there's no other way.
@TonyTheLion Fuck rep. I need to get a solution.
 
fucking 15 second limit DIE
@sbi why are you posting on SO then?! ;p
 
sbi
2:01 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit To get a solution.
 
sbi
42 secs ago, by sbi
@TonyTheLion Fuck rep. I need to get a solution.
 
@sbi Well, sure you can do it on your own, but I think Boost.Fusion has an algorithm that matches your case perfectly.
 
@sbi SO is not for solutions. it's for newb-bashing and teh repz
 
sbi
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Fuck off.
 
@sbi scumbag sbi
 
@sbi It should not be too difficult at all. I am posting a solution right now, just pending checking the differences between TR1 tuples and C++11 tuples.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Exactly that.
But if you don't want, normal recursion will do
 
@sbi Dickwad.
I'll stop researching your question for free then fuckface
 
Calm down, peeps.
 
2:05 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Huh? I'm perfectly calm!
Perhaps your hidden webcam link is switched to the wrong channel...?
 
sbi
@LightnessRacesinOrbit May I ask you to please do exactly that? In fact, why don't you just keep away from me as far as possible? Thank you, much appreciated.
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@sbi Just so you know, I have starred the above message in which you act like a total dick.
 
@DeadMG Have to write out of line code for returning a functor for a lot of situations.
 
@LucDanton Logically, that code won't have to be out-of-line with C++14, right?
 
Yup. Those improvements are just about my last qualms regarding the current state of the language.
 
2:07 PM
@LucDanton You don't hate the name of std::move?
 
sbi
@DeadMG Thanks, much appreciated. Six more mins until I can accept it.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No.
 
@LucDanton Damn!
 
@sbi Do check that it works. I haven't :P
 
sbi
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Just so you know, I didn't star anything here. And now let me be. I got work to do.
@DeadMG Well, since getting it to work is the point of this, I'll find out eventually. :)
 
2:09 PM
@sbi Then stop talking in chat rooms...
 
heh
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you mean, the one in which he called you out for acting like a total dick? Funny coincidence, I starred it too.
 
user1357851
 
It's fun to see that some of the stuff that came in C++11/C++14 were already proposed back in 1993.
 
@jalf Yeah, I fucking enjoy being treated like crap when doing research for someone, for free, when he wants something "ASAP". Fucking love it. First thing he says was "fuck off", and I'm the dick? Plonk time.
This again with you people.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes In-class initializers and binary literals are some examples.
 
@Morwenn There's that 'auto is the oldest C++11 feature' comment.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG std::tr1::get<Tup> needs N
 
Oh gawd, not that again.
 
2:11 PM
There, only mature individuals visible! Hurray
 
@LucDanton Haha, you made me laugh xD
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is it not true?
 
@Xeo Oh, I meant to pass N.
 
user1357851
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I have this suspicion: you just want to be loved and wanted :p
 
@Telkitty You're so right girl!
 
2:11 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit What? I was referring to binary literals btw.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ah, yeah
 
And digit separator too.
 
@Morwenn Didn't make it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh, not auto? k
 
hahahahahahahahhaha
I thought binary literals depended on digit separators.
Now it's just too funny.
 
2:14 PM
@DeadMG But there is still an active debate.
 
yeah, but the binary literals will not make it for C++14.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "Do you love bloated literals? Here, have some!"
 
@DeadMG Oh, I thought they were in the draft.
 
@DeadMG Yeah, I already know. My point is that we are still discussing some antiquities than predate standardization.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Nope.
 
Xeo
2:15 PM
@Lightness: Indices, yay~
 
What is going on here? Why are people talking about C++? How did this happen??
 
You are a bit slow, no?
 
@Xeo Yikes!
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are you doing a Tony?
 
N3493 slightly revised — DeadMG 6 mins ago
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I was referring jovially to the way everyone keeps saying "this is not the c++ room lolol"
 
2:17 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Not sure what that means, but I have been discussing C++ here for the entirety of the past hour.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh that kind of slow. Yeah, I wish I'd said it an hour ago.
@R.MartinhoFernandes I basically only just got around to it / noticed
 
@Kerrek never showed up after he mentioned guest-writing on my blog. I guess I'll have to finish writing something myself.
 
I haven't seen @Kerrek in ages; what happened to him?
> seen: 1 hour ago
well fuck
...hello?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Everything indicates he's too busy rep-whoring to chat.
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Apr 4 at 23:19, by Kerrek SB
@DomagojPandža I haven't laughed this hard all week...
 
Well, unless I missed something vital, his "fuck off" was in response to your statement that SO is for newb-bashing and rep, not answers. You may have meant it as a joke, but it's a toxic attitude, and one that fully warrants a "fuck off". (Also, if you can't take a 'fuck off' in this room, especially in response to a joke,, then you need to toughen up)
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2:21 PM
His latest chat message.
 
50% off on Tomb Raider. Should I?
 
@EtiennedeMartel the new one?
 
@jalf Yes.
 
Must have been one hell of a laugh!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's Olympic level rep whoring.
 
Xeo
2:22 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I don't see him repwhoring much /cc @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
I've seen him answer crap questions that he knew would get closed soon afterwards.
 
Xeo
maybe I'm just looking at the wrong questions :)
 
I think I've played a Tomb Raider game for about 5 minutes in my entire life. So I'm probably not the right person to answer that :D
 
@jalf The new one is more like Uncharted: Female Torture Edition, from what I've heard.
 
2:24 PM
Yeah, I've heard very mixed things about it
And not just in the usual sense meaning "it's not very good"
 
@EtiennedeMartel I asked myself that about fifteen minutes ago. Three seconds later I decided not.
Apr 3 at 20:08, by Kerrek SB
@R.MartinhoFernandes OK. I feel that I should put some effort into this, so I'll be in touch in the near <pun>future, I promise</~pun>.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah. Maybe when it's 75% off...
 
He didn't say anything since then...
 
@EtiennedeMartel Same :(
I used to do that
Now I'm stuck on 70-odd k
 
So, I see Robor is currently Master of the Starboard.
Ex aequo with Tomalak.
 
2:30 PM
Ahoy
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes So what do you deem as first-class support for generators/continuations? yield return?
 
yield returns are nice.
 
@EtiennedeMartel I notice you left out the "et bono" part ;p
@jalf wtf? who says I "can't take it"? your whole problem was that I responded in kind, as any strong individual does. morons
so, guess how much work I've done today
THAT'S RIGHT!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Well, obviously you can't take it, otherwise you wouldn't be arguing about it right now.
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Getting into an argument on the Internet, is a bit like doing this
 
2:34 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I spotted that nonsense answer in the starboard and felt like responding. If I "can't take it", I'd instead go cut myself or something...
The stark hypocrisy is amusing more than much else. But it doesn't matter now
@TonyTheLion What's wrong with that?!
that box looks comfy
 
¬_¬ why do the fire alarms have to be tested during office hours
 
Slides and (most) videos from this week's #LLVM developers conference in Europe already up! http://llvm.org/devmtg/2013-04/#content
 
sigh more libellious stars!
 
Iiiinteresting
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the box being too small
 
2:35 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That cat looks comfy.
 
@TonyTheLion arguably desirable!
 
like you're boxing yourself in
 
@EtiennedeMartel ComfyPlusPlus
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit are you arguing with me :P
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I heard he's scrawny.
 
2:36 PM
@TonyTheLion arguably!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh Cat has a new friend :)
 
@EtiennedeMartel That really wouldn't surprise me
OMG ALL THE REPLIES
 
DEM REPLIES
Hit the reply button with great prejudice.
 
with fire
 
while masturbating
 
2:37 PM
is lld LLVM's native linker or their "back-to-IR" linker?
 
@DeadMG Yeah, that would be a huge step (and the bare minimum at same time :P). Stuff beyond that I am not so fussed about, but is always nice. (In C# you can abuse yield return, foreach and LINQ query syntax to get very close to async/await, for example.)
 
@thecoshman In order to test out the response time of the emergency services as the sudden klaxon noise causes accidents - people tripping on stairs, dropping heavy equipment on their feet, chemical reagents onto floors, getting run over as they run across the car park.
 
@MartinJames haha
 
Getting run over is for wusses.
 
2:38 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't even know what async/await do. What problems do they solve?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Pot, meet kettle.
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Real men do the running over themselves.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Nice to meet you!
 
Alright, who flagged?
Because that's stuuupid.
 
@MartinJames it's not a fire drill, it's just testing the firealarms still make a noise, and seemingly that we do not pay them too much attention
 
2:38 PM
Flags in the lounge now? Funny how when I do that I get lambasted.
guess I'll see you all later
since now you've brought non-loungers (i.e. every chatter on SO) into it, I'll be gone soon
fucking retards - now who "can't take it"!!!?!??!1
 
so what happened exactly?
 
doing a proper job of it takes some planning... or serious dumb luck
 
@ScottW well quite
the old people pretending to be angsty teenagers
 
@DeadMG I guess you can think of it as syntactic sugar for the future::then kind of stuff.
 
My god, Tomalak can be such a drama queen sometimes.
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2:39 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hence why I wasn't sure why the fuck it existed when there is already the TPL.
 
@EtiennedeMartel ... did you even bother to read the messages from the others?
 
@TonyTheLion start here
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Of course not.
 
@EtiennedeMartel well then shut up! :)
 
Why would I get facts get in the way of my trolling?
 
2:40 PM
24 mins ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
@R.MartinhoFernandes Are you doing a Tony?
what does that even mean ^
 
@DeadMG It builds upon the TPL, actually.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Because INTERNET
@EtiennedeMartel wait......
@TonyTheLion It means missing sarcasm and hidden meanings and such
 
¬_¬ I feel a plonking is on its way
 
It's just a nicer way of building Tasks.
 
flags
 
2:41 PM
Was it you?
 
@thecoshman not you too? what for?
 
well
 
no more flags. good
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I would probably plonk @sbi too if he was also here acting 5
 
I'm not feeling too hot about building yield return into Wide, nor async and await, I guess we'll see how things go without them for a little while
 
2:42 PM
@NikiC complaining about flags, that's a flagging
 
sbi
@thecoshman What's that for?
@thecoshman And why exactly would you want to plonk me?
 
@sbi There's a "if" in there.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh I see
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Better now?
@ScottW Like this? :)
 
dat fish
oh the drama queen left?
Isn't he the one that says people should "man-up"?
how ironic
 
the hell is going on?
 
@DeadMG FWIW, those are not the only options, and in C# they are not fully generic (though good enough for most common use cases). I don't know if you can build such generic syntactic sugar without formalizing some of monad concept into the language (which is what F# did).
 
It seems to be common thing for the very people that complain about some behavioral trait in others to be exhibiting that very trait.
 
@Jueecy.new Everyone left is busy working out how much rep they'll lose if any of the regulars rage-quit.
 
@TonyTheLion You don't complain enough.
 
sbi
2:46 PM
IIRC, he was involved in a fight the very first day he ever showed up here. And then the next time. And the one after that. It only became better after he changed his avatar and name. It's still the old Tomalak underneath, though.
 
@sbi if you two where... wear... were, what ever, going to just sit there flailing bitch slaps at each other, I don't to have listen to it. I'd just plonk to the two of you and let you get on with in the corner
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes :) I shall do my best to fix that.
 
@MartinJames good!
 
@sbi I recall that actually
 
@EtiennedeMartel ¬_¬ most grating meme this room has spawned
 
2:47 PM
@TonyTheLion That was a merely crappy attempt at complaining about some behavioural trait of another without exhibiting it.
 
@thecoshman Hihi.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes eh, I suck at hidden meanings
 
@TonyTheLion yeah, I always get fed up of people being so aweome
 
@TonyTheLion Nah, it was delivered really poorly.
 
2:48 PM
@TonyTheLion you know... you slowly present yourself more and more as some one who is highly autistic, to the point where you can barely look after yourself... and play chess at grandmaster level
 
@thecoshman WTF?!
 
No chess, you do not get a capital ಠ_ಠ
 
wat
 
What?
Is @thecosh drunk?
High?
 
@TonyTheLion it's mostly your inability to detect sarcasm, or subtle meanings
 
2:49 PM
Somethings going on...
 
Finally driven to SAN 0 by his job?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes If I permit extensive reflection like AST inspection at compile-time, maybe it can be a library feature.
 
sbi
@thecoshman I am not sure what I did. He gave me bullshit, and I told him to fuck off. He came back with something, I asked him to just stay away from me. And then the starring started and I just told him I wasn't involved, so he wouldn't think I was revenge-starring. I still don't have any idea what happened here after I went back to my code. Now tell me where I was flinging feces in that.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm, nope. My drunk sense is not tingling.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you mean insanity 100?
 
2:50 PM
@thecoshman I considered it offensive.
Just FYI
 
@DeadMG If you allow arbitrary AST transforms, yes, definitely.
 
@TonyTheLion Have a hug.
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@TonyTheLion oh man, didn't mean it to be so at all
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Was he ever sober?
 
@TonyTheLion Hmm, why?
 
2:51 PM
@sbi I'll have you know I've been on nights out and only drunk 5 beers.
 
"THIS IS A RAGE ALARM! EVERYONE IS TO PROCEED IMMEDIATELY TO THE BAR AND NOT COME BACK UNTIL SO PISSED THEY CANNOT TAKE PART IN ANY FURTHER AGGRO"
 
I would not be sober after 5 beers.
 
@sbi ¬_¬ you seem to be missing the IF part
 
@EtiennedeMartel <3
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes You are not sober after half a beer.
 
2:52 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes, really depends on what you consider a beer to be...
 
@sbi You have never seen me drinking beer!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm not answering that
 
@Jueecy.new In my case, probably not.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I said nothing about being sober... able to function... not for much longer
 
Beer is awesome.
 
2:52 PM
@sbi In French, we have this saying: "Les couteaux volent bas". That's pretty much what's going on right now.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes maybe you just drink spirits wrong?
 
@Morwenn beer swollen
 
@MartinJames hahahaha
 
@thecoshman ?
 
@EtiennedeMartel the coconut votes bats?
@R.MartinhoFernandes spirits you drink in shots, not pints :P
 
2:53 PM
@thecoshman The knives are flying low.
 
@thecoshman Litteralyl, "knives fly low". It means cheap shots are getting exchanged.
 
@EtiennedeMartel o_0
 
I just knew "it flies low". Never heard the knives part.
 
@thecoshman Erm, no.
 
sbi
2:54 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes When it comes down to it, most alcoholic beverages are consumed from containers that make you end up with relatively similar blood alcohol levels once you consumed one of those. (That is, a beer glass has about as much alcohol as a schnapps etc.) And I have seen you starting to act drunk after half a <container>. So there you go.
@EtiennedeMartel That's all nice and well. Now if I only knew what it means.
 
@sbi He probably just lacks experience.
 
Xeo
Hey, ape, did you see the Coliru link I posted to you?
 
@sbi well, pints are normally two units, but point taken
 
1 min ago, by Etienne de Martel
@thecoshman Litteralyl, "knives fly low". It means cheap shots are getting exchanged.
 
Free opinions request: what is the best RDBMS for a large website?
 
2:56 PM
@sbi huh, I thought you knew French... not sure where I got that idea from...
 
@Jueecy.new MySQL.
DISCLAIMER: I only give the worst advice.
 
@Jueecy.new tripple chocolate
 
sbi
@Xeo Yeah, thanks! However, that boost::fusion answer made it look so simple, I am now (well, once I can tear myself away from the chat) trying to do that instead. (Sorry, robot.)
 
@Jueecy.new MongoDB, it's webscale. It doesn't use SQL or joins so it has high performance.
 
@sbi Sorry for what?
 
2:56 PM
@Jueecy.new Protip: your website isn't large.
 
DISCLAIMER: I only give advice for things you did not ask
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol, I don't even have one
 
sbi
@EtiennedeMartel Then I have know idea why you flung that at me.
@R.MartinhoFernandes Didn't I tell you I didn't want to drag fusion into this?
 
@Jueecy.new Start with MySQL. It works.
 
sbi
@thecoshman I have no idea either.
 
2:58 PM
@sbi Y U C++03?
 
@sbi Still not sure why that you make you apologize to me.
 
@DeadMG I'll take a look at that :)
 
sbi
@Jueecy.new Well, 0 isn't large.
 
@Jueecy.new Uh, you're missing the point.
 
@EtiennedeMartel cough
 
2:58 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm serious.
 
sbi
@Abyx B/c I embedded.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You shouldn't. At least not about the last part.
 
Although I've heard of this MariaDB thing, which is essentially MySQL but without Oracle's bullshit.
 
2:59 PM
@sbi windows?
 
MySQL is terrible
 

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