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6:04 PM
In computer programming, digraphs and trigraphs are sequences of two and three characters respectively, appearing in source code, which a programming language specification requires an implementation of that language to treat as if they were one other character. Various reasons exist for using digraphs and trigraphs: keyboards may not have keys to cover the entire character set of the language, input of special characters may be difficult, text editors may reserve some characters for special use and so on. Trigraphs might also be used for some EBCDIC code pages that lack characters such...
 
@Chimera I know what you wrote before you deleted it :)
 
@StackedCrooked Yeah I realized I was wrong. :-)
 
You will carry the shame.
 
I said to myself shit, I don't see a : so it can't be a ternary
:-)
Interesting though, I had no idea those trigraphs even existed.
I just assumed those characters had always been supported.
 
@Chimera ASCII included something like half a dozen characters not present in ISO 646 (its ISO counterpart). Of course, C and C++ use nearly all of them (the only exception of which I'm aware being '$'). To support ISO 646, the C committee invented trigraphs.
 
6:09 PM
@Drise nope
 
@Drise Unfortunately no -- it runs (stumbles, more accurately) on Windows and probably OS/X too.
 
@Drise I have a windows version
 
:4856506 I found one pretty easily.
 
I'm a moron.
 
6:10 PM
@Drise dunno
 
So they default to your OS on the selection screen.
@MooingDuck Shows Linux for me.
Is more correct.
 
@Drise it probably guesses what OS you're on, and shows that. Are you viewing the page on a linux box?
 
@Drise Yes, but there's a drop-down listbox towards the top-right to select the OS.
 
@MooingDuck Of course.
@JerryCoffin Yep, saw that.
 
6:11 PM
@Drise that explains that
 
Anybody ever use BeOS?
 
I'm having to get a list of ALL software that could possibly be put onto some computers for our lab here at work. And price them, and find a vendor and software version.
 
@DeadMG Ok. Cool. Well, not cool that you're having a bad week, but cool that you weren't serious.
 
@Chimera Played with it for a very short time many years ago, but never did anything I'd call real use. Likewise, looked at some docs and wrote a few bits of code, but nothing I'd ever really use.
 
Difficult for all of the open source stuff, since it's usually written by some dude.
 
6:13 PM
@JerryCoffin Just curious. It's being resurrected as an open source project called Haiku.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes As far as I can recall, I have never seriously insulted you.
 
@Chimera Unless they change it quite a bit, the word "zombie" comes to mind.
 
I like how the Java HotSpot client compiler is using its custom data types like GrowableArray when there is something called std::vector that could be used instead.
 
@ManofOneWay Somehow, everybody who actually learns C++ quits working on it...
 
@JerryCoffin They are adding support for newer hardware and new features...
Speaking of Zombies, I can't believe they fucking cancelled "The Walking Dead" on AMC.
I was getting into that show.
 
6:17 PM
naw
it was pretty boring, I think
 
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Q: returning address of local variable is bad THEN why this code works

user1393669Returning the address of a variable inside a function is bad because that variable will no longer exist if the stack frame where the variable belongs end. So why this code works fine int* test(){ int a = 11; return &a; } int main(){ int *a; a = test(); cout << ...

Close votes, please.
 
also
I'm not sure WTF you measn
the Wikipedia page for The Walking Dead seems to indicate it's plenty alive and kicking
 
I think it's being cancelled after this season.
 
@DeadMG Maybe it's in a zombie state.
 
My wife found a list of shows being cancelled, it was on that list.
 
6:20 PM
@Chimera They need to do more than that, IMO. The thing I remember most about it is that it had a hideous color scheme -- and as far as I could ever figure out, no ability to adjust it at all. The colors seemed to be hard-coded. That may have been barely acceptable in 1990 (or whenever it started) but even by the time I saw it, seemed positively ancient and draconian.
 
Does this program result in undefined behavior? Or is only the printed value undefined?
Or can it be considered a valid program with a solution set of size 256?
 
@JerryCoffin It seems like it's going to go far beyond what the original BeOS was capable of.
 
UB.
 
@StackedCrooked any undefined behavior in a program means the entire program is UB.
 
I know :)
 
6:28 PM
@MooingDuck Intuitively someone might think that the program can only go UB when it actually hits something that's UB. But not with optimizations.
 
@Chimera It needs to for it to have any hope of being competitive at all. As I recall, when I looked (1995ish?) it didn't even have a network stack. It is probably a decent enough kernel though.
 
@Mysticial that part always confused me. Is it well defined that this will print "Hello" or not? ideone.com/sXsyM
 
@MooingDuck I don't see any UB in that program.
 
@MooingDuck That would depend on the definition of "print".
 
@DeadMG what if the user enters a zero?
 
6:30 PM
If UB could some how manage to "unprint" the "hello". Does it still count as being printed?
 
@MooingDuck In that case, no, it is not defined.
 
@MooingDuck Since you don't flush the program can crash before the message is entered (if the user enters 0).
 
consider, for example
that the output is buffered
 
@StackedCrooked what if it was flushed?
 
when the user enters zero, a CPU exception is raised and the buffer never flushed.
 
6:31 PM
@MooingDuck The behavior before UB is defined, AFAIK.
 
@StackedCrooked that's not what I keep hearing.
 
thus it's not only technically possible but quite conceivable that if the user were to enter zero, "HELLO" would never be printed.
@StackedCrooked No, it isn't.
 
@StackedCrooked Not with compiler optimizations.
 
@StackedCrooked 1.9/5 "However, if any such execution contains an undefined operation, this International Standard places no requirement on the implementation executing that program with that input (not even with regard to operations preceding the first undefined operation)"
 
Ok, then I'm wrong.
 
6:32 PM
@StackedCrooked There's no UB there -- you're just printing an indeterminate value (§8.5/11). It was UB in C before C99 though.
 
Doesn't the std::endl cause the stream to be flushed? So hello should always be printed.?
 
@Chimera I changed the file, that's the new question.
 
@MooingDuck But it does makes sense when considering reorderings for optimzation purposes.
 
@StackedCrooked only to an extent. Namely, what if the UB relies on runtime values?
 
@Chimera No. It could still languish in an OS buffer, for example.
or the operating system's font rendering is asynchronous, and even if the text is successfully sent off to be rendered, the process could still terminate before that is completed.
 
6:35 PM
@DeadMG about the gpu_buffer again, should I create the on-gpu resource in say, an "upload" or "update" method? doing it in the constructor doesn't really work, what if I don't have any data to upload at the time of construction
 
@DeadMG I was thinking in terms of "side effects/observable behavior", but you raise good points.
 
@melak47 My advice to you is to attempt to mirror the interface of std::vector as closely as possible.
 
@StackedCrooked What it comes down to is pretty simple: some things will probably work, at least under some circumstances, but the standard doesn't try to define the precise boundary between what will work and what won't.
 
int main() { run_program(); return *static_cast<int*>(0); } // my ENTIRE program is UB now? :(
 
@StackedCrooked Yep.
 
6:36 PM
Well, I understand the reasoning.
 
consider this
since it is impossible for you to de-reference NULL, then clearly run_program() will never return.
 
@StackedCrooked Undefined behaviour reaches across time.
 
I'm not actually sure what that changes about it's contents, but it could cause the compiler to say, optimize out any apparent termination of loops.
 
@DeadMG I don't follow...
 
causing your program to fail to terminate when you expect it to.
 
6:38 PM
Any program with UB can be reduced to int main() { __order_pizza__(); }.
 
@StackedCrooked It is UB for you to de-reference NULL.
 
is it 32x32 pixels
 
Isn't assert(false); implemented with something that causes UB?
 
the compiler's optimizer is written based on the principle that UB shall never occur.
@StackedCrooked No.
 
just wondering
 
6:39 PM
and it makes assumptions based on that principle
by writing code that causes UB then you alter the optimizer's knowledge about the rest of the program.
 
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@techno never heard of a pad file. This is the lounge. Questions belong on a question site, like Stackoverflow.com
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes While I was at Ubisoft, one guy joked that I should add a "Order Lunch" feature to my taskbar build status indicator.
 
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@StackedCrooked UB only applies to your code. The implementation is free (required, really) to implement parts using things you can't in portable code.
 
6:40 PM
Dammit, Control-Click resolves to right-click on my mac. So I can't select multiple messages.
 
@techno pad.asp-software.org/spec/spec.php ctrl+f 'icon'. hit enter twice. viola.
 
@StackedCrooked If you insist on using a Mac, at least replace the mouse with something usable (e.g., a Logitech).
 
thanks guys
 
@JerryCoffin I bought a Logitech but the wireless lag was to big. I can't find any wired mouses anymore in local shops. Magic mouse sucks, but at least it has high wireless resolution.
 
6:44 PM
@StackedCrooked They seriously don't sell wired rats anymore?
 
A simple test for a Wireless mouse is to check if it's possible to make small circles with the mouse pointer smoothly.
 
At least here they're still more common than wireless ones.
 
When it is executed, if expression (which shall have a scalar type) is false (that is, compares equal to 0), the assert macro writes information about the particular call that failed (including the text of the argument, the name of the source file, the source line number, and the name of the enclosing function — the latter are respectively the values of the preprocessing macros __FILE_ _ and __LINE_ _ and of the identifier __func_ _) on the standard error stream in an implementation-defined format.
@StackedCrooked No UB in sight.
 
@Mysticial There was wired Microsoft mouse. I also bought it but it is really awkward.
 
6:46 PM
@StackedCrooked I have a $20 wired laser mouse. 3 of them actually since I like it that much.
 
C11 has _Static_assert for static assertions and they include a static_assert macro that expands to that in <assert.h>.
 
@Mysticial Brand + model number?? :D
I was still using this mouse up until a few months ago. I stopped using it because I was tired of needing a mouse mat.
Apart from that it was truly an excellent mouse.
I still have it. Perhaps I should buy a new mat.
 
I bought 1 two years ago because it was cheap.
I ended up buying 2 more for my office and my laptop.
Unlike my optical mice, it works on my plastic (shiny) table.
But that's just me. I'm very picky with mouse for some reason.
Some people are picky with keyboards. I'm picky with the mouse.
 
@DeadMG hmm, hows this? pastebin.com/x1CzweeH
 
@Mysticial I'm picky with both :)
 
6:52 PM
@melak47 A start.
but the trick behind the gpu_buffer abstraction is that it performs all synchronization with the GPU.
 
@StackedCrooked I used to have a fancy keyboard. They I realized that I could keep downgrading and I wouldn't be bothered - as long as it had a number pad.
 
if you give the gpu_buffer some data, it should handle transferring that data to the GPU.
having an explicit Upload method is ill-advised.
 
@DeadMG hmm, then I'll have to keep a pointer to device and context I guess. the resource is bound to those anyway
 
also, you would do best with a pair of iterators, not std::vector<T>.
 
but when should it upload? I don't want it uploading after say, each time I change a value, if I'm going to change a bunch
 
6:54 PM
@DeadMG A pair of pointers maybe?
 
I also have a desktop trackpad. It works just like laptop trackpads, but for reason it's really weird to use that on desktop PC. It hinders combination of typing and using mouse.
 
Doesn't the range need to be contiguous?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Not necessarily. The GPU buffer's range has to be contiguous, but the source range doesn't.
@melak47 good question.
and the answer is, the next time it is accessed by a function that needs the contents.
imagine that you have, like, bool dirty;
if the CPU contents and the GPU contents are out of sync, you set the dirty flag.
when you upload to the GPU, you clear it.
when you pass the gpu_buffer to Draw(), then you upload to the GPU if the buffer is dirty.
 
so..isn't that when I would need thew Upload() method?
 
oh, yeah.
but not as a public member, it would be an internal function.
 
6:58 PM
internal to the rendering system, or still the buffer?
if it's internal to the buffer, how do I trigger it
 
to the rendering system
 
but I need the template parameters to create the buffer
 
so you could, say, friend RenderSystem;
@melak47 So you have CreateBuffer().
 
Damn
"The connection suddenly breaks, the download must be a success" Firefox logic.
 
7:01 PM
Add this to the damned proxy dialogs and the dying-dog slowness and we can really consider that FF has become a steamy piece of crap.
 
@kbok If only Chrome would add some halfway decent color management, I'd never have to touch FF again. Unfortunately, it hasn't and apparently won't soon...
 
why is data structure padding in classes needed?
 
alignment
 
and what is it for? :o
why would it need to be aligned anyway?
 
to prevent the compiler from slapping you
 
7:03 PM
Because unaligned access can lead to crash or slowness.
 
:P
 
@JerryCoffin FF starting from version 13 has a horrible garbage collector problem that implodes on itself whenever I leave my auto-refresher on for more than an hour.
 
@Papergay Because CPU architectures like it.
 
46 pieces of software, totals to $36K
 
@JerryCoffin I never noticed a difference. What's the problem with Chrome ?
 
7:03 PM
@Papergay Many RISC CPUs can't do misaligned loads. x86 can do them, but depending on the model and situation, it may be pretty slow.
 
So now I find myself AFing on my laptop (with FF12). And using SO normally on my main machine...
 
hm, okay i will check some wikipedia articles etc on that
 
Rarely a problem for most people, but if you're into photography (or interior design, etc. -- anything where accurate color rendition matters), can be pretty serious.
 
thx for your answers xD
 
7:06 PM
@JerryCoffin chrome once displayed a RGB gradient test image where the 0/0/255 blue was purple :/
 
@JerryCoffin That site looks terrible, but I get the point
 
ah lol it was that easy
thx again
 
Unhandled exception at 0x000007F86F07350F (Kinect10.dll) in ManagementService.exe: 0xC0000005: Access violation writing location 0x00000000E5763048. any idea why?
 
Erm... who are you?
 
It's being thrown on a different thread
 
7:08 PM
@JerryCoffin Still the color management aren't enough for me to suffer FF's slowness. I have random freezes, 15+s startup, etc.
 
Code: //Initialize Kinect
INuiSensor* sensor;
int count;
NuiGetSensorCount(&count);
NuiCreateSensorByIndex(0,&sensor);
HRESULT status = sensor->NuiStatus();
HRESULT sh = sensor->NuiInitialize(NUI_INITIALIZE_FLAG_USES_COLOR | NUI_INITIALIZE_FLAG_USES_DEPTH_AND_PLAYER_INDEX);
Access violation occurs during the call to NuiInitialize; but not on my thread
 
@kbok my firefox stopped working alltogether and all it does now is constantly freeze. both computers I have. so I went chrome :/
 
It only occurs when passing the NUI_INITIALIZE_FLAG_USES_DEPTH_AND_PLAYER_INDEX
If I omit that it works fine
 
@IDWMaster Try calling NuiStartProc(&sensor); first
 
Oh gawd those constants are like D3D's.
 
7:09 PM
Is this a code pasting party ?
 
@kbok No such function exists
 
Jesus, intel charges 1K for their compiler? Holy shit.
 
@kbok I use Chrome ~95% of the time, and FF when I have no real choice. I'd guess most people have considerably less use/need for it than I do.
 
I'm using the official SDK, not the open-source one
 
@DeadMG about the iterators, why?
 
7:10 PM
@melak47 Why take a non-generic interface when you can take a generic one for free?
 
Jul 26 at 21:11, by jalf
If you want reliable, high quality answers quickly, use SO. If you want to gamble and maybe get a useful answer, maybe get a good answer, and maybe waste your time, feel free to ask questions here :)
 
{
    PhaseTraceTime timeit(_t_buildIR);
    build_hir();
}
....
{
    PhaseTraceTime timeit(_t_emit_lir);
    _frame_map = new FrameMap(method(), hir()->number_of_locks(), MAX2(4, hir()->max_stack()));
    emit_lir();
}
 
@DeadMG because the vector makes it easy to keep stuff contiguous :p
 
How ugly is this? Why do they use temp-scopes to use timeit? Wouldn't it be better to use a static method instead? PhaseTraceTime::timeit(...)?
 
I'm gambling
 
7:11 PM
@melak47 Sure, but that's your internal container, it doesn't need to be your external interface.
plus, deque generally has better performance characteristics in general, in my opinion.
 
I tried SO already; and it appeared to be fixed for a while when I re-installed it so I marked it as solved, but now it started randomly puking again.
 
(as the c# people would say, const char* up = "WHUT???"; throw up;)
 
@MarcB Polymorphism means "many forms", and function overloading is a form of polymorphism. Polymorphism is polymorphic. — R. Martinho Fernandes 12 secs ago
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I get it.
 
7:14 PM
@DeadMG all the data that is going in there is going to be contiguous to begin with, and if I need to, say, add instancing data on the fly, the vector (or deque) seems more than sufficient for doing that
 
@IDWMaster That's C++ afaik
 
@Drise Yeah; I figured I'd convert it to C++ since it's a C++ lounge.
 
@Drise Is it $1K better than what GCC produces?
 
They had var up = new Exception(); throw up;
 
@IDWMaster Use a string then
 
7:15 PM
@Chimera It has some specialized libraries or something.
 
@Chimera Depending on your needs, maybe.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes See my image
 
@IDWMaster Then write proper C++, not C.
 
Jun 30 at 16:18, by Etienne de Martel
ICC does optimize very well. It's almost as if Intel also made processors...
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7:16 PM
auto up = std::exception();
throw up;
 
It depends on what you're doing. ICC isn't always the best at everything.
 
That better
 
Hmm. I'm trying to "remove" the alpha channel of an image with a shader, but I get weird results.
 
@IDWMaster Sure.
 
I guess it's harder than simply multiplying the alpha part of my fragment with zero.
 
7:17 PM
@Mysticial lol
 
Any idea about what's going on with the Kinect?
I can't seem to find any info on the problem
 
@Mysticial Lots and lots of math
 
@IDWMaster The relevant concept seems to be 'autological', not 'recursive' though.
 
@Drise So you must be using FORTRAN then? :-)
 
@Drise And it also depends on how well the existing code is already implemented.
 
7:19 PM
@Chimera On occasion we do apparently. It's also very limited in it's capabilities, but its fast as fucking hell for the problems it can solve.
 
@IDWMaster Erm, why?
 
FORTRAN has a name you just want to scream out loud.
 
ICC will do fancy things like loop-interchange that other compilers usually can't do. But ICC can choke on very basic things.
 
@Mysticial Is it too smart sometimes then?
 
FTR, Fortran is no longer spelled with caps.
 
7:20 PM
@Drise yes
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Q: C++ vs Java? Why does the ICC generate slower code than VC?

thesaintThe following is a simple loop in C++. The timer is using QueryPerformanceCounter() and is quite accurate. I found Java to take 60% of the time C++ takes and this can't be?! What am I doing wrong here? Even strict aliasing (which is not included in the code here) doesn't help at all... long long...

 
Ugh... Can't even get the Kinect sample app to work!
ACCESS VIOLATIONS EVERYWHERE!
 
you always come here to ask questions about Microsoft-specific technologies that nobody else here uses.
perhaps the MSDN forums would be a better place
 
Steam is going to sell non-game software.
 
@FredOverflow Oh hey, it's Family Feud! The game show that indirectly puts money in my bank account.
 
7:21 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes wha
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes linky ?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Like what?
 
@EtiennedeMartel How ?
 
@kbok My employer makes, amongst other things, Family Feud games.
 
@Mysticial Interesting.
 
7:22 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I've never seen that show before, that guy is hilarious.
 
@kbok It's all over the news.
@Collecter They haven't disclosed yet.
 
@Drise It also chokes on pointer-heavy stuff as well some of the MSVC intrinsics.
 
@kbok I can't find the damn fucking source because the stupid fucking damn journalists don't fucking link to the damn fucking sources.
There, I have vented about this again.
 
:)
 
ICC really was meant only for numerical heavy stuff. But I've seen as few cases where it was too smart about scheduling some SSE code that I wrote. (which ended up backfiring)
 
7:25 PM
so instead of computing stuff you wanted, it uncomputed stuff you already had?
 
@JerryCoffin Thanks
 
@melak47 My answer here is one of those cases, where ICC got too smart:
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Q: how to achieve 4 flops per cycle

user1059432How can the theoretical peak performance of 4 floating point operations (double precision) per cycle be achieved on a modern x86-64 Intel cpu? As far as I understand does it take 3 cycles for an sse add and 5 cycles for a mul to complete on most of the modern Intel cpu's (see e.g. Agner Fog's ht...

I had a specific scheduling that I wanted. MSVC and GCC more or less respected it. But ICC completely reordered things to the point where it was 30% slower than what MSVC and GCC gave.
 
@JerryCoffin Thanks.
 
@JerryCoffin I hope there'll be an achievement system :)
"Achievement unlocked - burn a copy-protected audio CD"
 
7:30 PM
@kbok People still burn audio CDs? Don't they just shove it into an ipod or a smartphone now?
 
@Mysticial I have many friends who still uses them for their car.
 
@Mysticial They probably burn audio CDs. The old meaning of "burn".
 
But yeah, that's an outdated joke. I must be getting old.
 
@kbok We all are. That's symptom of being alive.
 
@kbok True... But shouldn't like every car less than 10 years old now have an audio input?
 
7:32 PM
@Mysticial I'm not that old. People my age can't afford a modern car :)
 
I dunno, how long do most people keep their cars?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I thought you were a robot in an old science fiction movie ?
 
At least in my family, my parents keep them for 10 - 15 years.
 
My friends have cars whose construction dates range between 1985 and 2000.
 
Oh gawd, has any of you ever tried an audio ReCaptcha?
 
7:36 PM
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Q: Impossible audio Recaptchas makes Stack Overflow site inaccessible

Colonel PanicStack Overflow uses Recaptcha to dissuade bots. Recaptcha provides an audio test for users with difficulty reading. Accessibility. CAPTCHAs must be accessible. CAPTCHAs based solely on reading text — or other visual-perception tasks — prevent visually impaired users from accessing the protect...

wow... that's completely nonsensical.
 
Some of the recaptchas now are pretty ridiculous. There was one where I failed like 7 times...
 
@Mysticial Why?
 
@DeadMG did you listen to the example?
 
7:38 PM
yep
that's completely nonsensical
the question/problem faced by the OP is not
 
yeah, that's what I meant.
 
I think the one I tried ends with "sidewalk".
I have no idea about the other 30 seconds.
 
Captchas are pretty wild. I've struggled with a lot of them lately.
 
"ncecenti for many" "periedco sep" "sylesDo afternoon."" "leterym bars," "rbio ftlesco" — Purmou 17 hours ago
 
> I have to say though, recaptcha is going to stop being a viable option in the near future. Unless eventually the bots are the only ones that can solve them and we only let people in if they get it wrong.
 
7:43 PM
Since we just pull these from Google, not sure that there's anything we can do about the quality and legibility issues. — Anna Lear 3 hours ago
What?
 
recaptcha is served by Google.
it's not a Stack Overflow thing
 
Any ideas of good movies to watch ?
 
@DeadMG I know, but if they're using a broken service, who's fault is that?
 
they can't change if they don't know it's broken.
 
Worse still, it looks to me like getting to the audio captcha in the first place is almost as hard (if you're visually impaired) as solving the normal text captcha.
 
7:46 PM
time was ReCaptcha was the best captcha service around bar none, and IIRC it's free to boot.
if that's changed then maybe they need to change; but first they need to be made aware of it.
 
Clearly they do now, but stating it's not their fault and there's nothing they can do is completely ridiculous
It is free still as far as I know, and it was the best
 
Isn't ReCaptcha used to digitise books?
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yes.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yep.
 
Well, then it's not so bad.
 
7:48 PM
@Collin Well, it isn't their fault that ReCaptcha has declined in quality, and if there are no superior services, then there is nothing they can do.
 
The only logical reason I see why recaptcha is getting harder is because the algorithms for breaking it are getting better and better.
 
Movies ? Anyone ?
 
@kbok What kind?
 
Yes I am a movie.
 
@Collecter Action, Adventure, SF or Animation
 
7:52 PM
@kbok As far as animation goes, have you seen miyazaki's movies?
 
@Collecter All of them :)
I'm a big fan.
 
@kbok Alright. Well if you wanted comedy I could help, but otherwise...
 
Hmm...perhaps in the "eat your own dogfood" vein, Google should require everybody who works on ReCaptcha to solve one before they can eat lunch.
 
I wonder why people put "animation" as if it was a separate genre in its own right.
 
So the upgrade of my DSL modem to a VDSL2 one increased my download speed x7. (From 500 KB/s to 3.5 MB/s.) That was more than I hoped for.
 
7:54 PM
@Mysticial This is an arms race humans can't win.
 
@Collecter Try anyway, if it's funny, it can only be good
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes So we will have to hire robots like you to win them for us?
 
@JerryCoffin That's more like "don't eat your own dogfood" :P
 
@EtiennedeMartel Yeah, they do it with porn as well. I hate that!
 
@StackedCrooked Because porn is a separate genre.
 
7:55 PM
@EtiennedeMartel I tought about it while writing it also.
 
@kbok I love the Naked Gun series. Awesome comedies. (I have recommended them here before to someone)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I suspect they'd get back to something people could pass fairly quickly, specifically to allow eating the (whatever kind of) food.
 
I think a great majority of animation movie fill under the "adventure" genre.
 
While "animation" says something about the medium, "porn" says something about the content.
 
@Collecter I'll have a look.
 
7:55 PM
If you like dark comedies, there's Burn After Reading.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Or, the PHP specification, aka Burn Before Reading.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Ok, both are dimensions apart from genre. There's a 3 dimensional space of animated/non-animated, porn/non-port, genre.
 
@JerryCoffin I was refering to the Coen brothers film, because that at least is entertaining, unlike the PHP spec.
 
@StackedCrooked I don't think so.
 
Why not?
 
7:58 PM
Because there's no "porn drama", or "porn sci-fi", or stuff.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh yes there is
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes You would be surprised... Or probably not...
 
Rule 34, ever heard of it?
 
Anyway, time for me to leave, see ya
 
To be fair, in the West, there is no "animated drama". Because, as we all know, drama is serious stuff, and animation is for kids. And kids don't like serious stuff.
 
7:59 PM
In any case, there's also stuff like "sci-fi drama".
 
"Animated porn sci-fi" is quite common
 
@EtiennedeMartel While I can't imagine spending 2 hours at it, I suspect the PHP spec would be entertaining for a few minutes. You could even make it a game: open to a random page, and see how long it takes to find 5 hanging offenses. Less than 1 per second is a failure.
 
So, I see no reason to say "porn" is not a genre just because it can be combined with others.
 
@EtiennedeMartel There are those weird alternative animation movies shown at movie festivals. Not sure if that counts though.
 
Yeah, genre is not unilateral.
 
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