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9:00 AM
@AlphaMale doesn't looks like from your avatar pic, buster!! :D
 
WHat??
 
@AlphaMale PHP is about to die soon :3
 
@Abhishek None is helping you, i think you are going to die soon
;)
 
i found my own solution :P
lol
and perhaps i am just trying to implement the stuff using libavcodec
 
Yeah Death is the solution to all problems :P
 
9:03 AM
frame->data[0] = reinterpret_cast< uint8_t *>(samples.data());
in my case that was
 
Ummm... reinterpret cast is almost always bad
 
@Abhishek you shouldn't use reinterpret
 
hmm but thats the only thing which worked
 
@Abhishek show the declaration of frame->data?
 
/**
* pointer to the picture/channel planes.
* This might be different from the first allocated byte
* - encoding: Set by user
* - decoding: set by AVCodecContext.get_buffer()
*/
uint8_t *data[AV_NUM_DATA_POINTERS];
 
9:07 AM
@Abhishek Sometimes, the only way to make a watermelon fit in a blender is with a hammer, but that doesn't mean you should
 
that's a data member, not a member function
 
yes.
wait x_x
frame->data[0] = samples.data();
 
good morning all
 
@Abhishek that should work, isn't working?
 
@thecoshman blargh!!!!!!
 
9:12 AM
@Neil well, that's not very friendly :P
 
@MrAnubis works . idk how.
 
@Abhishek the type on lhs of assignment and on rhs is same that's why :P
 
i know that
and now i know what was i missing
[0]
 
sbi
9:33 AM
@Cicada Normal service will resume now, but I was held back by one hell of a fucking bad morning.
First I made the neighbors think I torture puppies, then I got bitten by a mad rabbit, then I saw the backlights on three kinds of public transport within ten minutes, and then had public transport mock me again.
And, no, that wasn't all.
Now who dares to cross an angry gorrila?
Fearful silence.
 
oh man, rough day. I know how you feel, I have just moved to a new part of the building, and can't eat any more 'celebration pastries'
and as a rare treat, there was coffee that didn't taste like a puddle water
 
Oh well bad morning too. A retarded swedish guy being a dumbass on purpose.
Also, fighting with cmake for hours now.
 
@thecoshman That's the sound a sea lion makes or alternatively, the sound an emotionally disturbed programmer on a Monday makes without coffee
 
Hohoho, twitter links galore. I'm still not registered on there. Is that a call?
 
sbi
@thecoshman I think you have an exeptionaly bad understanding of the term "having a bad day".
 
9:40 AM
@Cicada go for it! you can never have enough ways to waste time
 
sbi
@Cicada When I say something, child, it's always a call.
 
@sbi I think you have an expectationally bad understanding of my humour
 
sbi
@Cicada There's no need to tell us that CMake is the work of the devil. We know.
 
I'm not telling you. You provided me with plenty of quotes about that.
I'm just confirming it's a terrible thing to "work" with.
 
sbi
@thecoshman IT'S ONLY 11:41, AND ALREADY I HAVE NO UNDERSTANDING OF HUMOR LEFT FOR THE DAY!
Now wipe your face, it's full of spittle.
 
9:42 AM
@Cicada I'm glad we have cleared that up :D
 
sbi
@Cicada Tell us, girl! I might be cheered up by hearing that the day hasn't been nice to others either.
 
@sbi you go get a pastry, right now!
 
sbi
@thecoshman What, is my spittle on your face not suiting you that you demand pastry crumbs?
 
@sbi It all starts here
 
@sbi I already have plenty of pastry crumbs, you should get some as well, very tasty :D
 
9:47 AM
hi all
 
@sbi i think if cicada is really 51 years old, then it's misleading to call her a "child"
or for that matter a "girl"
a colleague (speling?) i once had, had some problems with not being taken seriously enough, and she got mad at me when I called her a "girl". just offhand. normal phrase in norwegian
 
I found @CatPlusPlus's best friend:
user image
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9:53 AM
damn, I hate being 17. :( . It's one year before I can get my driving license, and to 3 years too late to play with the car simulation system at the arcade.
 
sbi
@Cicada Yeah, read it. You make a wonderful trolling victim, girl. You might want to learn the art of STFU and let them go on. It's good for your blood pressure.
 
@Cicada who are the other two?
 
sbi
@CheersandhthAlf If she would be 51 years old, it would be bad. The way she reacts to certain keywords, however, indicates she's a young girl. :)
@IntermediateHacker You can count me in. Well, as long as the term is "not caring", we need to count her out, though. So there's still two ones missing.
 
I don't care about porn
 
sbi
@DeadMG Yeah, but you don't count, because you don't care about anything.
 
9:57 AM
lol
 
@sbi or a master troll... or should that madam troll?
 
I care about plenty of things
 
sbi
@DeadMG Yeah, but none that count.
 
currently, I'm caring quite a lot about how I'mma advertise my SO profile on my CV
 
9:58 AM
lol again
 
sbi
@thecoshman Parser error. Again.
 
@Cicada except you do care, you are very vocal about your dislike of it. Lack of care would mean you wouldn't be so irate when people mention it
 
I mean, do I just go "My SO account, it's awesome and shows I know WTF I'm talking about here's linky"?
 
@DeadMG probably not
 
@DeadMG How about something like this?
 
sbi
10:00 AM
@DeadMG Face it, puppy. You're a drop-out. You weren't persisting enough to get through a few nagging lectures. If I were an employer, why should I hire you?
 
@sbi That's cold.
 
Wait, the puppy dropped out of college?
 
@rubenvb but true
 
News flash.
 
sbi
@rubenvb Well, I guess someone has to tell him the truth.
 
10:01 AM
@sbi I don't deny this. Just sayin'...
 
@sbi Because I learned a whole lot more than most graduates anyway. Who needs those lectures?
 
I fully agree with @sbi, as much as uni might suck, if you can't at least finish it, I'm not even going to finish your CV
@DeadMG exactly the sort of arrogant cocky attitude that very few people will want to employ
 
@thecoshman Only if you've been to my university and verified that passing those exams would have required useful knowledge I don't have.
 
as much as employers want some one who is smart and can provide new ideas, they mostly want some one who can just get shit done, no matter how crap it might be. AKA, some one who has not just given up with uni
 
sbi
@DeadMG You still don't get it, do you?
May 22 at 20:04, by sbi
@DeadMG Well, now that you have found out all about writing doubly-linked lists, parsers, and artificial intelligence, you might want to attack the real hard problems: 1) Facing your parents and explaining them that you failed and that you lied to them for a long time now. 2) Stop being a misanthrope and learn to get along with other people enough to finish projects you're assigned. 3) For once finish one of the projects you start. (And I am talking about studying here, not Shallow-C!)
May 22 at 20:06, by sbi
Nobody in their right mind is gonna hire you based on the qualifications you have so far. That's because they all need a team, and they need every new recruit to fit into that team, and they need to be able to talk to anyone in the team and walk away knowing more (useful stuff) than they knew before.
May 22 at 20:07, by sbi
You can be a great the greatest rockstar programmer on earth — if you haven't learned to get along in a team, nobody is going to hire you (for long), no matter how much money you pay them for letting you hack at their code.
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10:03 AM
@DeadMG I frankly wouldn't give a crap how shit your uni is, if you can get stick it out, I wouldn't give you a first thought
 
sbi
May 22 at 19:58, by sbi
@DeadMG Imagine I am hiring. I have a whole pile of applications from people from all backgrounds, and I need to pre-scan thispile and weed out anybody we're not going to waste our time interviewing with. Now, there's two guys in there who failed to finish their studies. Tell me one good reason I shouldn't weed them out right aweay.
 
@sbi hmm.. that's pretty good advice. So teamwork counts as much as programming skills. right?
 
@IntermediateHacker you hire a team not programmers
 
@thecoshman Well, that's just you being ignorant. A degree is only worth exactly as much as the course that produced it.
 
@thecoshman I do think MS hires mostly programmers. Then flings all that code together and release a new Windows.
 
sbi
10:05 AM
@IntermediateHacker Of course! You need to work in a team, and you need to stick it out even if you are handed bad, boring, stupid jobs.
 
@DeadMG And a person is worth as much as his credentials (this includes experience).
 
@DeadMG you don't get it bud. the degree shoes you are able to work, on any thing. The chances of you knowing exactly what you need to know for a job are very slim, and very pointless.
 
@IntermediateHacker probably more than programming skills quite often
 
sbi
I've been hacking PS scripts for a week now. And I thought I couldn't get much lower once they had me writing C# code.
 
@sbi Right. But I am not going to pay someone else for that privilege. If you want me to do a stupid boring job, then you damn well pay me.
 
10:06 AM
You can learn how to use a new language in a funky frame work, you can't learn to not be a jerk and get on with work
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sbi
@DeadMG So consider all employers as ignorant. Not that you'd be far from the truth — but what are you gonna do about it?
 
good question
 
@DeadMG if you had a pile of say 200 maybe 300 CVs to look through to hire say 5 new team members, are you really going to read through each one? I know I wouldn't. If you can't suck it up and put up with three years of 'hard' uni, how are you going to cope in a real job?
 
real jobs are not gratuitous wastes of time
 
sbi
@DeadMG But why should I want you? If I was an employer, what I'd be looking for is employees who 1) work well in a team, 2) are great programmers, 3) can slosh through bad times and boring work, 4) know a thing or two about the software lifecycle. Now. given a pile of applications, how am I gonna filter them for finding those treats? (Hint: If they can't slosh through bad lectures, they fail #3, and probably #1, too.)
 
10:10 AM
well
scratch that
 
@DeadMG lol, you'r so naive
 
sbi
@DeadMG Haha! You are so funny!
 
yeah, forget I said it, it was a bit of an instinctive response
 
sbi
@DeadMG Yeah, but it was also coming from your most inner believes, I think. You need to pull yourself up together and change those believes, since they are wrong.
Work sucks mostly. Few jobs come with the few precious moments that compensate for all the suckage. And you need damn good qualifications to be even considered fit for an interview for such a job.
 
very true
but you get paid for doing work that sucks
 
10:13 AM
@DeadMG you get paid once you're hired.
 
and it's amazing how much of a difference being able to live independently and buy stuff makes
 
sbi
I'm not saying you have no chance to find a great job now. You do have a chance, but it is very small. And you will need to change that attitude of yours in order to be granted even that small chance. In fact, you'll need to almost turn 180°.
 
@DeadMG but the person who looks at your CV gives it seconds, if he doesn't see 'degree finished' it's going straight in the bin. They will drop you CV for the pettiest of things
@sbi he only has a chance if the round error works in is favour :P
 
owch
 
Need some help to decide correct answer for a question..
 
10:15 AM
with out a decent CV (ie one with a degree) you are going to have a long slog just to be able to get a look at the ladder
but sure, once you are that career ladder, your sorted then.
 
@IntermediateHacker this blog of yours is pretty funny :)
 
@rubenvb thanks.
 
it have a bounty and hence its sort of more important to assign it to correct person
 
@bubble what question?
 
sbi
Well, the best chance you can have, @DeadMG, might be to get any job, no matter how boring and underpaid, and work there a few years to get experience and a good reference. Then slowly work your way up from that, slightly improving with every new job. In about a decade, you might arrive where those with a degree start. And you will have learned that sticking to that bad lectures might have been the easier route.
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10:18 AM
@rubenvb looks like something I have read some where else ¬_¬
 
18
Q: What is indeterminate behavior in C++ ? How is it different from undefined behavior?

bubbleWhat is the difference between an indeterminate behaviour and an undefined behaviour in C++? Is this classification valid for C codes also?

 
@thecoshman prove it. my job doesn't exist :) or, mine is simply a lowlife job for which no credentials are required. I'm a big phony
 
@DeadMG I suggest you send your CV to etisalat, they'll hire anyone as long as he's British, or European for that matter. (seriously)
 
@sbi I already know it would have been easier. My life would also be a lot easier if I, for example, stopped eating so many cookies making myself sick. That just doesn't seem to have much impact on the end behaviour.
 
i think the last answer is more "to the context". But maximum upvotes are for the first.
 
10:19 AM
@sehe I don't get what you mean?
 
@bubble I think this is a duplicate of a [c++-faq] entry
 
sbi
@DeadMG Well, good luck then.
 
54
Q: Undefined, unspecified and implementation-defined behavior

ZolomonWhat is the difference between undefined, unspecified, and implementation-defined behavior in C and C++?

 
@DeadMG discussing your eating habits again :P
 
@TonyTheLion lol
 
10:20 AM
oh I got that job :)
 
gz
 
@sbi meh, I'm not going to loose any sleep over it
 
you mean the first answer ?
 
ohh..
 
10:21 AM
Nautilus says: hey, the folders you are tarring are 6 GB big. After tarring for half an hour, the tar file is at 10GB and counting
@bubble I mean the question :)
 
i am specific to indeterminate...
its not mentioned in this question
 
@bubble indeterminate is not a word that has meaning in C++.
 
oh man, so many pastries! Not going to need much lunch today :P
 
I got this word from misra standards for C++ .
 
sbi
@TonyTheLion Whoohoo!
What job is that?
 
10:23 AM
They mention the issue references which can be of many type viz. unspecified, undefined.... including indeterminate
 
@TonyTheLion congrats man! what job is it?
 
@rubenvb i downvoted that RTFM question. it needs 54 more downvotes.
 
@CheersandhthAlf Why did you do that? It's a common question on SO and this [c++-faq] entry is a handy link-to. Not everyone has the knowledge to make sense of C++'s "manual".
 
@bubble MISRA are, at best, for completely niche embedded systems, and even then, their standards are quite moronic. I'd simply skip reading them.
 
@rubenvb because it's an RTFM question. the OP should use his own time to Read The Fucking Manual. and not ask others to use their time doing it for him.
besides, it also smells like homework
who the fuck are those idiots voting it up 55 times
 
10:26 AM
@CheersandhthAlf It's a C++-faq tagged question. You're being moronic (or you're not awake yet)
 
@rubenvb it has nothing to do in a FAQ. a FAQ is about frequently asked question. this shit should not be asked in the first place. it's an RTFM question.
 
@CheersandhthAlf I disagree, very very much. What manual are you talking about anyways?
 
are you dumb? there's only one current C++ standard, and only one current C standard. They are respectively C11 (I think) and C++11
 
sbi
@CheersandhthAlf Tone down, Alf. Right now.
 
@thecoshman C++ algorithm development
 
10:29 AM
@CheersandhthAlf I didn't know the Standard was readable. I also didn't know it was available for free.
ffs
 
@sbi why? it's totally stupid. "what manual". hello. there's only one standard
 
@TonyTheLion oooh fancy :P
@sbi really? that was too far?
 
@rubenvb get yourself a draft. they're free. the term definitions are not different
 
@rubenvb (a) it's not, but we pretend it is; and (b) it's not, but you can read the draft for free
 
sbi
@CheersandhthAlf Tone down, Alf. This has nothing to do with whether you're right. What is stupid is asking others whether they are dumb just because they have a different opinion.
 
10:31 AM
lol
 
@sbi you're lying. you can read right above that the cause of that question was asking "which manual" with regard to the standard. that's a stupid question. it's incredibly dumb. you know that.
 
wow, you're worse than I am
 
@DeadMG no, i'm just fed up with this idiocy.
 
sbi
@CheersandhthAlf Well, I was considering discussing this with you, I even had half a lengthy message explaining my POV, but I will now instead plonk you for the rest of the day. I don't know who crossed you this morning, but you are way past being irrational. HAND.
 
people playing for points, asking RTFM questions, all that shit
and people like @sbi playing utterly stupid dominance games calling others "girl" and "child" and pretending that it matters who he plonks
 
10:34 AM
 
@sbi equally, you seem unusually, though understandably, irritable today. did you get that pastry?
 
best job offer EVER. mwahahah
 
sbi
> Is Mozilla removing workforce from Thunderbird?? pastebin.com/Y0UAM5jx — sbi
 
@CheersandhthAlf dude, go take a walk or something. This isn't like you (because I know you so well :P)
 
i'll take a shower
 
10:35 AM
:)
 
stop the press! there was a second girl in here?!
 
i forgot that SO doesn't really matter
stupid
@thecoshman she was just a recruiter
 
dude, srsly
 
@CheersandhthAlf oh. Still, I like the idea of talking to to coriander
 
we're totally gonna get our female component up by going "AMAGAD GURL" every time one joins the room
 
10:37 AM
to to? coriander?
 
ooh, I missed some drama
 
@sehe I'm making a punny
 
can't you people just treat them the same as everyone else and not make a big drama out of it?
 
nah. it didn't really lift off
 
why is it that when two adults compete about who's the most grown-up, they both end up behaving like 4-year-olds?
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10:38 AM
@DeadMG OH MAH GAWD A DOGGY
 
@DeadMG hmmm. I can hear you now
 
And my sarcasm was so advanced both of them completely missed it.
 
woof woof bitch
 
@DeadMG yeah, could we get over the "oh my god, a woman on the internet" thing already?
 
@DeadMG o_0
 
10:39 AM
@jalf I know. It's just making things worse and wholly needless.
 
@sbi Hmm. Not sure if prank. Seems legit
> Oh, you'd like to repudiate the headline?
^ lol
 
@DeadMG Agreed
 
sbi
@thecoshman Sadly, no pastries here. I don't know whether it was really me who went over the top here. But filing the standard's legaleze under "RTFM" is a bit over the top by itself, and trying to defend that by insulting opponents, rather than by providing sound arguments, just did it for me.
 
@sbi Don't blame you. The Standard is hardly in an easily digestible form. Not to mention that I wouldn't even know where to get a copy.
 
sbi
@sehe I wasn't thinking it's a prank. It is already starting to be all over the web.
 
10:40 AM
@sbi I'm on your side here. The Standard is not a manual. A good book might be, but those have been proven to be very wrong at times regarding exactly the subject at hand
 
@sbi I'm sure your boss will understand the importance of going to local pastry shop for a moment.
 
@DeadMG @RMartinhoFernandes' profile page
 
oic
that's quite helpful/convenient of him
 
it is a draf build though
not that that matters much.
lol first google hit for "oic" was www.oic-oci.org
 
@DeadMG so, have you officially dropped out, or are you just seriously considering it?
 
10:42 AM
There is always man c++ :p
 
@thecoshman If I'm not mistaken he dropped out some time ago.
 
sbi
@thecoshman It's lunch time in 30min anyway.
 
@StackedCrooked that should just read "lol"
 
technically, my course isn't over yet
 
@sbi pastries are more important than waiting
 
10:43 AM
but I get my results in two days and I already know I failed a bunch of my January exams and therefore cannot pass the year
technically I could retake the year, but without my parent's financial support and a new approach, the probability of success is minimal.
 
but it will be worth it in the long run, what year is it?
 
third
 
well, it would be a shame to chuck three years of work away
 
yes
 
depends how much you failed, you would not have to re-do EVERYthing
 
10:45 AM
however, as my parents have accurately pointed out, there's little point in getting even further into debt so that I can smack my head on the university's walls again
I would need, as sbi put it, a new attitude
 
@DeadMG that's true
in the end, it doesn't really matter what would objectively speaking put you in the best position. If you can't get through another year of university, it's a waste of your time and money to try
 
@sbi Nope. Not at all. I find amusing to irritate people. Plonking is for weaks.
 
yeah, if you go for it, which I strongly suggest you do, you will need to do your best to make sure you do pass
 
@DeadMG Many employers these days ask for a degree or equivalent. You somehow need to provide the equivalent then.
 
@Cicada ... I was about to say "weaks = 7 days" but I some how doubt my Engrish skills
 
sbi
10:48 AM
@DeadMG The biggest problem is that you would need a different attitude to make taking the year again count for something.
 
would it amuse you to know that until three years ago, I couldn't fail an exam if I tried?
 
not really
 
@DeadMG then you weren't trying hard enough! ;)
 
amuses me
my academic record is like, AAAADE
 
nor will it employers, they will just look at the fact you don't have a degree
 
10:49 AM
@DeadMG You had a compulsive studying disorder?
 
sbi
@Cicada Or for those who need their energy for other things than convincing those who are wrong on the Internet. <insert common XKCD reference>
 
@DeadMG so what changed?
 
@jalf No idea.
 
other than your grades, that is
 
@sbi Exactly what I said. For people lacking energy => weaks
 
10:50 AM
@StackedCrooked Nope. I was that guy who could read the course curriculum once and quote it word for word six months later with no revision or anything.
 
Well, despite all the doom and gloom talk, it is perfectly possible to get a good job without a degree. But you'll likely have to work your way there from a less good one
 
it was like sucking up knowledge with a sponge
 
@jalf Transition from high-school to college?
 
I was more the opposite, I only just scrapped through to A levels and then scrapped into uni. I managed to get a little bit better each year at uni, eventually getting the first.
 
17-year-old-me would easily pass this course
 
10:51 AM
@DeadMG I was kind of good at short-term cramming, but nowhere near that level.
 
might also be worth investigating if other universities might be better. Better teachers, curriculum or anything else that might make it feel more worth your time
 
@jalf Yeah, been thinking about that.
 
@jalf uni is not that strict about ensuring you pass. they have no problems with letting you fail if you don't give a fuck. nor can you get by with just knowing stuff
 
@DeadMG of course a lot of it is subjective, but given that some people actually feel they learn a lot from their time at university, and you don't, it would seem that perhaps your uni just sucks at CS
 
@thecoshman No, those grades were my A-level exams.
 
10:52 AM
@jalf changing for the final year might be hard to do, especially after failing
 
@thecoshman I know that. I got through university too ;)
 
my university course going bad is just an extension of the fact that my academic performance dropped off a cliff.
 
@DeadMG what's that, 7 A levels? really?
 
@thecoshman no clue about that. But might be worth investigating
 
@thecoshman No, six modules, one course.
my... Law course, I think.
 
10:53 AM
@DeadMG ah
 
or maybe Maths
 
giving a fuck is one of the hardest things you will ever do in life, other than maybe organise a lounge meet up
 
took them over two years, and the last two summer 2009
hard to believe that I actually failed a mathematics module
 
not really, it's harder to believe you bothered to take A levels
 
at that point I was acing everything important and at least passing everything else.
 
10:56 AM
take A levels? In my experience, A levels are 'gotten' not 'taken'. But then again, I stopped getting A levels after high scholl
 
sbi
@Cicada I'll overlook that. I once was a child, too, after all.
 
@dead what do you want to do, in the more general life
 
@sehe Could simply be different systems.
in the UK mandatory school age ends at 16, and you take A levels from 16 to 18
 
@sehe probably comes from saying "I will undertake A levels"
 
@thecoshman I'm fine to spend my life making cool things. Probably cool software things.
 
10:58 AM
@DeadMG any ideas how to fund your playing with 'cool things'?
 
making, not playing with
and not really
 
until you are producing something worth while, it's playing
 
sbi
@DeadMG But that's the crucial thing. If you fail at that, it's sweeping, not coding.
 
Does C++ have an official term for a pair of iterators? Range? Sequence? Something else?
 
@sbi Yep
@thecoshman Very true.
 
11:02 AM
i hate STL..
 
@FredOverflow Check the wording for the input to sort(), as it takes it that way. But I believe they call it a range.
 
Oh wow. I actually managed to make the linker segfault!
 
ironically, so many people are getting degrees these days, that you might find you need one just to flip buggers or collect rubbish :P
 
lol, that's a hilarious idea
 
@Zolomon: I know that your question is made for appearances sake, for those readers who don't know enough to recognize that it's meaningless. That's the problem with knowing too much for one's level, yet too little for the next level. Still, if you don't want to use an earlier draft and don't want to shell out any moneyes, then just compile your own C++ standard: root.cern.ch/drupal/content/compile-your-own-c-standardCheers and hth. - Alf 2 mins ago
 
sbi
11:03 AM
@DesmondHume Yeah, but that coming from a drowned Scotsman doesn't impress us.
 
can you imagine the burger-flipping interview?
 
@FredOverflow searching n3290 for '[first, last)' consistently calls that a range
 
"So... did a maths degree, didya? What's the cosine of 90?"
 
@DeadMG well, you need to know your trig to get that flip just right, else you can mangle the bugger and waste profits :P
 
11:04 AM
lol
 
sbi
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Any ideas on how to fund your playing with 'cool things'? [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
 
so
if I want to go back to university without my parent's support I will need to find some menial labour job
 
11:23 AM
@DeadMG I once did a job where I had to flip burgers. One thing I learned was that you only need to flip them once.
 
lol
 
You mean burgers aren't 4D?
 
I just kept flipping them until someone told me that I only have to flip once one side is done.
 
damn
 
The minimum number of flips for a 2D object in order to cover all sides is 1.
See, there is a math aspect to it.
 
11:25 AM
just realized I validated ALL THE FLAGS without actually reading them
 
That is to be expected from someone who hasn't got a degree.
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:p
 
11:39 AM
lol
bastard
 
@sbi in your endo
 
ouch, still on the same subject I see.
 
@StackedCrooked depends on the burger really. I have it on good ground that a good burger is cooked much like a steak, and that to cook a steak well, turn it ever 20 seconds, so that both sides cook the same (Heston, fancy che)
 
@DeadMG 90 what? Degrees? Radians?
 
11:56 AM
radians obv
 
sbi
@rubenvb We're talking about degrees here, wasn't that obvious?
 

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