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Ell
12:02 PM
hi guys
 
@sbi don't you deal in grads?
 
sbi
"Friends forever", huh? And they flag each other. Also, wasn't a room like this the only one that ever got closed by SE personnel? Yep, it was: meta.stackoverflow.com/a/135380/133368
@thecoshman I do not deal in anything. I program for a living.
 
@sbi potato potato
 
sbi
@thecoshman I fail at parsing that.
 
@sbi I can't work out what most of those messages mean
 
sbi
12:08 PM
@badp: As a non-native myself, I am fine with chatrooms in any language. As a general rule, however, whenever something is flagged in a language that I don't understand, I will validate the flag. I consider the risk that something atrocious slips through worse than some user getting suspended for half an hour undeservedly. If you want to prevent me from undeservedly approving a flag to one of your messages, either post content that isn't considered offensive by someone else or post in English, so I can judge for myself. It's that simple. — sbi Jul 4 at 9:32
 
@sbi there are two ways of saying that word. it is a 'thing' when people debate trivial points that more or less just boil down to opinion to say "potato potato", works as well with 'tomato'
 
What do when your linker fails you?
Cry and sob?
 
@Cicada bitch and moan :P
 
Accepted.
 
Clean all and rebuild. Even if I know it won't fix the problem.
 
12:13 PM
It's NVIDIA's new linker.
"linker".
And of course their forums are down.
Fuck this day.
 
oooh, still doing your CUDA stuff
 
Well I get paid for that so I better do it.
 
sounds like reasonable logic to me
@Cicada if you don't mind, how old are you, roughly?
 
sbi
 
12:15 PM
@thecoshman Yes.
 
At my workplace a few people are working on a CUDA project as well. They're also complaining.
 
@Cicada :P well, that proves you definitely are female
 
> zubryd@GeantVert:/cuda-workspace/dna/gpu/build$ nvcc *.o -arch=sm_20
> Linking CUDA executable...
> Segmentation fault.
 
sbi
@thecoshman I know! I know! I know! Bobs up and down.
 
Ell
are there any GUIs to generate cmakelists.txt files?
 
12:16 PM
I'm buying a Radeon HD.
 
@Cicada strace/ltrace report anything interesting?
 
sbi
@Ell Yes.
 
Ell
@Cicada can't you use opencl? does that do it cross-graphics-card?
 
@Cicada That's what you get when working with leading edge technology :p
 
The strace dump is huge and nvcc forks a lot so I'm a bit lost.
 
12:18 PM
@sbi yes, you there, the large gorilla
 
> sudo apt-get install php-dev
 
Ell
@sbi what is it called? :L
 
@Cicada > sudo apt-get install sell-soul
¬_¬ stupid markdown
 
sbi
@Ell I forgot. Sheepish grin.
 
Ell
helpful ;)
 
sbi
12:19 PM
First google hit.
 
See Uninstalling CMake first.
 
@Cicada I've seen NVIDIA tools segfault right after EACCESS in the past
 
@sbi how ever did you think of that :O
 
Ell
@sbi thats for running cmake, not for generating a cmakelists.txt ... I think?
 
sbi
@Ell Ow. My memory is hazy on this. Lemme look...
 
12:20 PM
@Flexo Oh, I think I've seen that in the log.
 
@sbi are you actually forgetful about this, or you just trolling?
 
sbi
@thecoshman I had to deal with CMake briefly in, I think, 2008. I quickly left the company, but its horrors still haunt my sleeps.
 
@sbi from what little I know, an attempt at making make cross platform, no?
 
sbi
20 hours ago, by sbi
@Ell That's the problem. If you want to do cross-platform development, and if you do not want to maintain separate projects for each platform, CMake is the one-eyed among the blind.
 
@sbi you aware of any decent x-platform build tools? or is it a case of taking the lesser of evils?
 
12:23 PM
I'm not aware of a gui for making cmakelists.txt. We use it at work, and just write them by hand (or copy the template from another project) when we have to create new ones
@thecoshman I think that's what the last part means. CMake sucks, but everything else is worse
 
I think if I were on twitter today I would have ranted quite a whole lot.
 
sbi
@thecoshman "...the one-eyed among the blind."
 
which matches my experience pretty well
 
(Hey, have you guys already seen the redo build system? Any take on that?
 
(There's also ninja)
 
12:24 PM
@Cicada you really should get on there then :P
@sbi ah, get your meaning
 
sbi
@Cicada I did little else all morning.
 
@sbi I know, I read them all!
 
sbi
@Cicada Oh, you're being a nice girl for a change!
 
@sbi Today's a bad day.
 
@Cicada You aren’t? That’s a serious shortcoming for such a great (as in, quantitatively) ranter as yourself
 
Ell
12:26 PM
@Cicada Oh ninja is an actual thing?
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph Whoa! Nicely dealt out!
 
:4441771 Bring it on, brah!
 
I don't even know what to rant about now.
CUDA sucks.
 
oh, already chickened out
hehe
 
CMake sucks.
C++ sucks.
Konrad sucks.
Voilà.
 
12:27 PM
@Cicada I can take it
 
"there aren't even any good rants left?"
 
I got into this awesome slap dance/fight with a girl last week
 
@KonradRudolph Tell me.
 
we were both roaringly drunk, and she had instructions from an ex to slap me
hilarity ensued
 
lol
And then you got laid.
Classic.
 
sbi
12:28 PM
@KonradRudolph Instructions from your ex or from her ex?
 
@Flexo meta rants?
 
@Cicada (no idea what smilie best shows a “you gotta be kidding” face)
 
@KonradRudolph Psychic powers.
 
@Cicada 'tis rather presumptuous
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph I don't know enough smiley lore to be a judge of that.
 
12:29 PM
@thecoshman ? Not at all. it's just a stupid comment.
 
@sbi I would have thought “69” would stand for 69
 
@KonradRudolph Probably the UTF8 one. let me find it.
 
@KonradRudolph ಠ_ಠ
 
@sbi The latter sounds hilarious. I’m trying to think of a scenario to cause this, and they all don’t paint me in a good light. Anyway, my ex
@thecoshman The same!
anyway, Cicada doesn’t have psychic powers
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph Oh. Is that the one who was not your ex only a few months ago? Or something from your dark, promiscuous past?
 
12:32 PM
nope, don't like open plan. Can't feel relaxed, even when actually working
 
@sbi Not sure which one you’re talking about but probably the one after that ;)
 
Ell
I wish I had a dark, promiscuous past :L
 
This is it: ಠ_ಠ
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph :-o
I was talking about the one you were looking forward here to meet her only a few months ago.
 
2 mins ago, by thecoshman
@KonradRudolph ಠ_ಠ
 
sbi
12:34 PM
@Ell You are too young to have any past at all, let alone a promiscuous one. (Also, I fail to see how promiscuity has a general advantage over other forms of relationships.)
 
@Ell well, have a dark promiscuous now :P
 
Who needs a dark promiscuous past when you can have a faulty linker.
3
 
@sbi some people fail to see that advantage to sex with some one who knows all good things
 
@Cicada …
 
Ell
@thecoshman haha sluts make me angry :L
 
12:35 PM
and can we stop using that word, I find it far too hard to spell :(
 
I feel the irrepressible urge to kick around all sort of stuff.
 
sbi
@thecoshman Can you try that again, please. Call me dense, but I can't decipher it.
 
@sbi I can think of a few ways … also disadvantages, of course
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph Tell us!
 
anyway, gotta go, duty calls. But I got the chat to talk about my ex life today. Mission accomplished.
 
12:36 PM
@sbi sex with a long term partner is can be good because they can know all your turn ons
 
@KonradRudolph And we know what happenned with that drunk girl!
 
sbi
@thecoshman Yeah, that I know.
 
Will stay in my linker's memory for ever.
 
@Cicada hmm. huh?
 
@KonradRudolph hint hint
 
sbi
12:37 PM
@KonradRudolph Whoa, c'mon, you were just prompted to deliver what you said you have! Do not weasel out now! Feigling!
 
@sbi to be honest, the only advantage I can see to sex with stranger is that you can try something that you can't normally do
 
sbi
@Cicada That's why it segfaults, you're corrupting its memory.
 
@thecoshman Like AIDS.
 
@Cicada ¬_¬ something on the mind?
@Cicada ಠ_ಠ
 
I said nothing. Cicada just jumped to conclusions just because I had a friendly slap fight with a friend. Duuude.
 
sbi
12:38 PM
@thecoshman We're not talking strangers here. Promiscuity mere means "lots of different partners", no?
2 mins ago, by Konrad Rudolph
@sbi I can think of a few ways … also disadvantages, of course
2 mins ago, by sbi
@KonradRudolph Tell us!
 
@KonradRudolph Look how he's trying to negate all responsibility! Ha!
 
@sbi Ah, that one. Well, trying out new people once in a while is interesting, no? At least I think so.
 
@sbi well, no, doesn't have to be with strangers, but often is. lots of partners would often by called polygamy
 
Guys, you can't talk about this.. this is the C++ lounge!
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph Oh, that. I am now disappointed.
 
12:40 PM
@Neil lol
 
sbi
@Neil At least we didn't talk about C++.
 
@sbi The opposite of promiscuity essentially means that I forego the chance of having sex with certain people a priori, without first evaluating whether I want to have sex with them.
(was that sufficiently geeky?)
 
@sbi True
 
sbi
@thecoshman Well, I gotta admit that "lots of partners" sooner or later would mean "strangers". Well, depending on your definition of "lots", anyway.
@KonradRudolph No, why? There's always serial monogamy. IOW: You can always fuck them later, no need to get hasty. :)
 
@sbi sound like promiscuity to me. Of course, where we define the cut-off is a bit arbitrary
 
12:42 PM
to be promiscuous does not imply monogamy or polygamy, simply many
 
@sbi Also, the same argument still applies in a way – unless you reserve the right to end the current monogamy at moment’s notice … say, at a party ;)
 
> Who needs polygamy when you can have porn.
 
@Cicada polygamy is still used in some parts of the world where they still have no internet
 
sbi
@Cicada You keep bringing this up, girl. What's it with you and porn?
 
and I would not really consider it promiscuous to have say, three longer term partners at once, in some sort of 4 way relationship
@sbi nothing, she doesn't care about porn, apparently
 
sbi
12:44 PM
@KonradRudolph What about "you can always fuck them later, no need for haste" didn't you understand?
 
Interesting discussion.
 
@sbi Hmm. But being spontaneous is half the fun, no?
anyway, that’s where I get off
 
sbi
@KonradRudolph You can always be spontaneous later. :)
 
all I wanted to do was talk about my interesting slap fight … but noo, there has to be sex involved ;)
… and I really need to work now guys
 
@sbi kids today, no patients (wrong spelling?)
 
12:46 PM
later
 
Work hard.
 
@KonradRudolph there's always sex involved
 
sbi
@thecoshman "patience"
 
Ell
@thecoshman if only ;)
 
sbi
@Cicada There you go again!
 
12:46 PM
@Cicada ¬_¬ really, going to wet your self with that one?
 
I cannot make my linker feel my fury. So I redirect it here.
 
@Cicada depending on the linker, you can always make it crash. That'll show it
 
sbi
@jalf ROTFL!
 
Precisely. That's the problem. That fucker segfaults.
 
@Cicada oh yes, French :P
 
12:48 PM
He's like "durrrrr I'm not going to link this, I'm not going to throw any error about why, just segfault the shit out of you"
 
You could try deleting it from your hard disk and forcing all bits on the hard disk to be 0. Then copy it and do it all over again. Programs hate it when you do that.
 
"Oh also, you can't use any other linker, because you're linking proprietary code, bitch!"
 
sbi
@Cicada He? (We're talking English here.)
 
I'm talking stranglish and i does whetever mistaeks pleases me
 
@sbi made sense to me :S
 
sbi
12:51 PM
@thecoshman It made sense to me, too. "Linker" is a male noun in German as well.
 
Ell
He made sense to me too.
 
@sbi I see, what does it mean?
 
Why would linker be male anyway?
Wait, maybe I know the answer, nvm.
 
Ell
@Neil apparently is :L
 
Does it mean "retarded program that enjoys not doing its job"?
 
sbi
12:52 PM
@thecoshman All nouns have one of three sexes (female, male, neutral) in German. Linker, for some reason got a "male" tag attached when it crept into the language.
 
@Cicada Programs can't enjoy anything, but they can strongly dislike pretty much anything.
 
@sbi oh, you mean when you use the English word 'Linker' it is considered a male word. I thought you where saying that it was also a German word that means something else
 
sbi
I bet she has lots of trouble opening an account with g+.
 
@Cicada update
 
@rubenvb It's the very very very latest version.
(Also the first)
 
sbi
12:54 PM
@thecoshman It is now a German word in the same sense that "kindergarten", "weltanschauung", "blitzkrieg", and "fahrvergnugen" are English words. (Well, except it's lesser know in the general public.)
 
@Cicada first and latest. Sounds like normal behavior then. Shall I bring the rope to hang yourself?
 
sbi
@Cicada unupdate
 
@sbi Never heard of weltanschaung or fahrvergnugen
 
@sbi what do 2 and 4 mean? and is 3 really an English word? I guess so...
 
@rubenvb Please do.
 
12:56 PM
@DeadMG oh good, so it's not just me
 
The ape is slow again.
 
sbi
@DeadMG The former you should know, the latter was a joke. (It's from an ad ran by VW in the US.)
 
@rubenvb he's actually rather prompt today
 
@DeadMG I think he thinks German is actually English.
@thecoshman relatively speaking, I must agree.
 
@sbi nope, never heard of it
 
sbi
12:57 PM
You losers! "weltanschauung"
 
@rubenvb figuratively I must embrace you like air
@sbi TIL
 
@thecoshman wow... what?
 
I wish I had sufficient mastery of English to mess with you ¬_¬
 
sbi
@rubenvb users who carries "VB" in their name really shouldn't risk attracting too much attention in the C++ room.
 
@sbi Dutch/Flemish has a word for that too: wereldbeeld. It's not rocket science.
 
12:59 PM
Je vais péter un câble.
 
@sbi What the hell is wrong with my last name's initials?
 

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