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user1804599
1:00 PM
It should also warn you when things are almost over date.
 
user1804599
And prefer those ingredients when generating your sandwich design.
 
user406009
Would grocery item bar codes be useful at all?
 
user406009
@elyse You can track out of date stuff with my idea.
 
user1804599
Well, maybe, with very good OCR.
 
Is Nooble the new youngest member of this posse? Rightfold had that title at 17 last time I was around.
 
user406009
1:02 PM
He is the youngest admitted member.
 
user406009
There are probably other people just lurking.
 
user406009
Hello lurkers!
 
user406009
@elyse Supposedly you can actually get a lot from the bar codes (mightygrocery.com/shopping-list-app-users-guide/barcode-scan)
 
user1804599
I suppose you could have a system that internally stores all items, weighs and scans them, and provides a UI for inserting and extracting items.
 
user406009
So my idea stands of having a barcode scanner on the front of the fridge.
 
1:04 PM
@Nooble It's like when you buy a dishwasher. It's like when you used to take the fucking bus and you get a car. It's like bootstrap. It's like when you realize you can just go to subway and have someone make you a sandwich
 
user406009
Scan items in and out.
 
user1804599
@Lalaland yes, but not when it's over date.
 
@ElimGarak @nabijaczleweli Is a few months younger than me.
 
user406009
@elyse You know when the item went it, you might know when it's over date.
 
user1804599
Milk that rots this week has the same barcode as milk that rots in two weeks.
 
1:05 PM
@ElimGarak Nubel's 15, I'm 14.5
 
user406009
But you know when the milk was put in there.
 
@Mr.kbok I prefer C++ and OpenGL over Unity because I enjoy segfaults and compilation errors.
10
 
user1804599
Yes, but that doesn't say anything.
 
@Nooble don't we all ;__;7
 
@Nooble It's fun using pointers and low level APIs, just like it's fun to make a sandwich or do the dishes the first time. At some point though you want to get shit done
 
user406009
1:07 PM
@Nooble github.com/tomaka/glium claims it solves some of those problems.
 
@nabijaczleweli it's funny because your pic would hint at someone who'd be 41.5 :P
 
@Prismatic °_°7
 
glium looks cool
 
(^o^)7
 
user406009
@Mr.kbok Isn't that the current netbeans logo?
 
user406009
1:08 PM
Netbeans is still around and kicking.
 
@Mr.kbok But Rust.
 
Its never been seg faults or whatever memory errors thats the main problem with writing 'low level' code
 
@Lalaland Yeah, and MFC too
 
Its creating architecture thats the hard part
 
You all bitches bitch about stuff being hard, but that's precisely the reason you're in this business.
 
1:10 PM
I like how initPreferences() takes 30 minutes to execute because i actually loads the entire market data history of a few dozen years
 
If it were easy, Telkitty could do it. Who wants to be Telkitty's equal?
 
user406009
There's nothing wrong with Telkitty.
 
I wouldn't mind living in a big ass house with chicken
 
@Mr.kbok Chicken?
 
yes she has chicken
 
1:11 PM
@Lalaland It's NetBeans logo with flaems and a big pink J
 
user406009
Telkitty lives on a farm?
 
@ElimGarak Poor little nobodies like us can't even aspire to such heights.
 
@nabijaczleweli butt Y whats the J for
 
@Mr.kbok Muh naem ("Jędrzej")
 
Ah, ok. It thought it was for Java
 
1:15 PM
@Mr.kbok Naaaah
 
All good things are hard. Take cocks, for example.
 
@nabijaczleweli butt seriously lose the netbeans it's ugly
 
:25376392 My surname is even more unpronouncable
 
I don't live on a farm & yes I have chickens. I also don't have a big ass house, neither do my chickens
 
Wait, nabijacsomething is a part of an actual name and not from a random string generator?
 
1:16 PM
@Mr.kbok Switched over to IntelliJ IDEA a long time ago, or do you mean the avatar?
 
user406009
@chmod711telkitty You should take a picture of your glorious chickens and share it with chat.
 
@Lalaland they are in my avatar
 
@ElimGarak It means "level-grinder".
 
@Lalaland Don't encourage her. :P
 
@nabijaczleweli I thought avatar.
 
user406009
1:18 PM
@chmod711telkitty That's merely a low resolution image.
 
hasn't telkitty posted a picture of her chikens already
I seem to vaguely remember some kinda chickens being posted in chat
 
yes she did
 
And then being trashed by Robot followed by rage in caps.
 
@ElimGarak Read from here on down
 
user406009
Clearly this chat is speciest. Puppy posts his dog pictures, but Telkitty can't post her chicken pictures.
 
1:20 PM
Puppy is the dog.
He posts selfies.
 
Also, we like Puppy. Puppy is cool.
 
@Prismatic No (not unless you interpret "a" to mean "at least three pictures a day for interminable weeks on end").
:-)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes so vain
 
@chmod711telkitty nuh uh
how big is it really
 
1:21 PM
This is where I live (I am trying to sell the downpipes in the front because I have different ones for charged stormwater for the new house)
@Mr.kbok 90 square metres
 
I think I'm going to track LRiO on SO and post comments inviting him to chat. I'm a Cardassian, he'll listen to reason.
And then we will all kiss and make out.
 
@chmod711telkitty Hmm....you have such lightning storms that the stormwater is charged? That's pretty intense.
 
fine it's a moderately sized ass house
@ElimGarak out
 
@Mr.kbok What? He's finally come out of the closet?
 
@JerryCoffin new houses need to use stormwater in the rain water tank for the toilet & garden, meaning the water has to be charged up by a motor
 
1:23 PM
lrio was a woman all along
 
T'Pol from the mirror universe was hot.
 
@ElimGarak I don't like her lips
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Introduce her to Ben Dover.
 
On the other hand, my two chickens are very happy to have a 600 square metre garden to running around in
 
@chmod711telkitty My idea was more fun.
 
1:28 PM
@JerryCoffin Always is.
 
@ElimGarak I'll bet you say that to all the guys...
 
Only to LRiO if @ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ promises to be nice this time around.
@Mr.kbok What was the price of PLEXes when you played EVE?
 
user406009
What caused LRiO to quit last time?
 
@Lalaland Jeffrey.
 
@Lalaland This time last time or last time before this time?
 
1:33 PM
This is the inside of the new house that I am building - steel frame & glass/earthwool insulation inside, partially covered by plaster board.
 
@ElimGarak 40 million I think? That was a long time ago, and I never bought one
 
Hello
 
@chmod711telkitty You're building a house?
 
@Mr.kbok Probably, 400 million. It's now 1.1 billion ISK.
 
@Mr.kbok yes
a small one
 
1:34 PM
@ElimGarak shit, dat inflation
 
@chmod711telkitty Is there any cool stuff in the house you're building that's atypical of most houses? Like a geothermal a/c system and stuff
or maybe solar panels
 
Bricks or gtfo.
 
@chmod711telkitty What for?
I mean you already have one right :)
 
@Mr.kbok The chickens.
 
A house for the chickens Oo
wouldn't a shed suffice
 
Looks like something you could tear down with a fart.
 
yeah
 
@chmod711telkitty it must not get very cold there... a) steel frame means that the insulation does jack shit b) that doesn't look like more than R13 insulation... which would keep you about as warm/cool as a drink cozy after about 4 hours
 
OTOH if you can build it yourself
 
1:39 PM
I prefer houses you can crash a car into and have the car take 90% of the damage.
 
@Mgetz I am using mainly R3.5 insulation & no, it does not snow here so ...
 
next unconference should be at telshitty's place
 
@chmod711telkitty if it gets even mildly hot you'll notice it as well, I do hope you're at least insulating your attic properly
 
@TonyTheLion The party that will bring the house down, literally.
 
anyone knows a nice coop game for xbox? not borderlands
 
1:40 PM
@ElimGarak with one fart :)
 
@Mr.kbok Destiny. Hahahahahahah.
 
I mean split screen
 
Oh, maybe... Man, I just realized I'm such a single player kind of guy. Can't help.
 
My gf's house is just plain rock, 4m to the ceiling. that's the shit
 
@Mr.kbok That's the way to go.
 
1:42 PM
@Mgetz there are two layers of insulation: reflective insulation bubbles & glass/earth wool
reflective on the outer side, wool on the inside
 
@chmod711telkitty in the walls or the ceiling. In the walls the steel framing negates all of that because it's conductive. That's why you use steel for the inside walls but never for exterior.
 
for ceiling I'd always do at least an R30 blow in
 
plus 13mm plasterboard
 
the savings on heating and cooling are massive
here in colorado I'd recommend an R50 blow in for the ceiling
 
1:44 PM
how thick is the R30, R3.5 is 17.5cm thick already??
 
@chmod711telkitty R30 is loose fill and is for attics only
in walls you would normally use 2x6 framing timbers here and put in either r15 batt insulation or use spray foam for r30
 
R2.0 is 9cm thick
R30 must be ... over a metre thick??????
are you missing a . somewhere?
 
The R-value is a measure of thermal resistance used in the building and construction industry. Under uniform conditions it is the ratio of the temperature difference across an insulator and the heat flux (heat transfer per unit area per unit time, ) through it or . Thermal resistance varies with temperature but it is common practice in construction to treat it as a constant value. An R-value is a unit of thermal resistance for a particular material or assembly of materials (such as an insulation panel). The R-value depends on a solid material's resistance to conductive heat transfer. For loose...
 
personally I prefer lvalue insulation, it doesn't destroy itself every time I leave
10
 
1:48 PM
@chmod711telkitty so it looks like that's measured as r10 or r15 here
 
@Puppy :)
 
user1804599
yay I am now writing Haskell code at work
 
hi Bartek
 
hope your boss doesn't want any features delivered
 
@Puppy Ahahah
 
1:49 PM
 
@Mgetz A 2x2 picture would've sufficed. :P
 
Just tear down the toy house and build a real one.
 
user406009
@elyse Nice.
 
1 message moved to bin
 
1:51 PM
@chmod711telkitty so ordinarily we do blow in insulation (loose not batt) in attics
 
please post a link to long error messages
 
Who do you blow for insulation?
 
I don't need half my screen filled with error messages
 
user3883753
sorry, I am not in the right room ?
 
1:52 PM
@KenedYassine This is the Lounge. We're domestic terrorists operating on foreign soil.
 
Aug 25 at 5:56, by Xeo
The Good, the Bad and The Rules.
 
@KenedYassine questions should always be asked on stackoverflow.com
 
@KenedYassine You should get your eyesight checked.

Lounge<C++>

Today we're daydreaming about C++26 reflection
 
emphasis on Lounge
 
trying pugixml now cc @sehe
 
1:53 PM
"Lounge<C++>: looming threat of "discussions" not worthy of being in a chatroom on the snack exchange network" oh I know, I'll go in there and drop the error messages from my Java compiler, it's the right room for that
 
Basically, the programming theme of this room is merely a facade for setting up gay alcohol-infused sexual encounters in liberal European countries.
 
@KenedYassine NO
Learn to read first.
 
user3883753
what's no?
 
oh its Java
sigh I didn't even see that
 
1:54 PM
@KenedYassine ".java"
 
yea no Java in here
 
@KenedYassine "No" means no.
 
user3883753
ok sorry, going out, Thanks
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Except when you're really pretty.
 
@KenedYassine Diamond operators require java > 5; NEXT
 
1:55 PM
lol
 
@nabijaczleweli Who puts diamonds into shit?
 
@KenedYassine Get on with the times
 
God, we're obnoxious. I love it.
 
It's Java 8 these days
 
Learn Java in 21 days, ask in Lounge on the 22nd.
 
user3883753
1:56 PM
is there any chatroom java ?
 
@KenedYassine Yes.
 
@KenedYassine Yes.
 
Are you from 2006
@KenedYassine Yes.
 

PHP

Support group for those afflicted with PHP. Don't ask to ask, ...
 
user3883753
am using the computer of the entreprise they are not updated
 
1:57 PM
inb4 ST
 

Bar<C++>

General discussion for alcoholic programmers who are out of lo...
 
user3883753
need a java chatroom
 
edit your "entreprise" into "enterprise" and I'm starring you
 
user3883753
thanks
 
@KenedYassine There is a guy in there who knows Java. His name is Lightness Races in Orbit. Tell him we sent you. He'll know what to do.
 
1:57 PM
@ElimGarak how active....
 
oh nevermind, I'm starring you anyway
 

JavaScript

Topic: Anything JavaScript, ECMAScript including Node, React, ...
 
@KenedYassine No. You don't. Questions go on the part of the site that has "Questions" written on it.
FFS LEARN TO READ
 
@unordered_meow I don't see whats star worthy
 
@TonyTheLion it's more starworthy than dicks
 
1:58 PM
@TonyTheLion Yeah, no hard dicks or cocks anywhere in sight.
 
1 min ago, by R. Martinho Fernandes
inb4 ST
 
user3883753
chatroo mis reactiv then, i need someone to tell me rapidly the solutions of my errors
8
 
@KenedYassine oh god you're killing me
 
@ElimGarak exactly, no cock == no star
 
1:59 PM
@KenedYassine Pay them.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Good show.
 
user3883753
No lucrativ service plz
 
I'm tempted to kick this guy
 
@KenedYassine Solution: Quit Java.
 
@KenedYassine No fast service either.
 
user3883753
1:59 PM
:D
 
user3883753
no problem guys
Good evening
 
Yeah, Robot is really bad at humor.
 
First Google result for "diamond operator is not supported in source 1.5"
 
Why are people so bad at Google?
 
2:01 PM
Second, Google "What am I doing with my life?"
 
user3883753
I already tried his solutioon @R.MartinhoFernandes that doesn't work
 
@KenedYassine you probably suck
 
> About 76,000 results (0.47 seconds)
 
judging by what you've said in here, its not an unreasonable assumption
 
2:02 PM
@Lalaland where would they be
 
@KenedYassine Make an effort.
 
@ElimGarak oh how terrifying
 
user3883753
I suck candy
 
user3883753
am not dummy in java
 
you suck at computers, find yourself something else to do
 
2:03 PM
Try herding goats, you have the namesake for it. Wait, so do I.
 
user3883753
wow, all that for asking a question
 
@KenedYassine Hey can you fix my C++ problem?
 
@KenedYassine Yeah, we're kinda assholes.
 
Should be Lounge<asshole>
 
@KenedYassine You didn't ask a question. You barged into the middle of a conversation and dropped a wall of text with your error message.
That's not a question.
 
2:05 PM
Also, Java. In Lounge< C++ >.
 
user3883753
ok, I apologise, do like I didn't ask
Bye
 
@TonyTheLion Lounge<Rightfold's Asshole>
 
That's the equivalent of someone showing up at your table in the bar while you are chatting with your friends and without any kind of introduction starting to read out loud from Genesis.
 
@KenedYassine We'll miss you, don't go :(
 
2:05 PM
@Nooble For rightfold its always her vagina.
 
That guy reading Genesis is an asshole.
 
user3883753
@Nooble LOL
 
Discord is apparently the new hipster teamspeak skype mumble thing.
 
Mumble has a heritage here. Memories of Cat Plus Plus drunk and shit.
 
2:08 PM
@ElimGarak I've heard.
Too bad he never comes on :(
It's always just jaggedSpire, ScottW, Nick, nabijaczleweli and me.
And sometimes Cicada.
And sehe.
 
I'll drop by tonight, Cicada also, sehe. Maybe not tonight.
 
And thecoshman.
Also Tony.
 
Did Kened leave us forever?
 
Heh, that Rust issue got locked without comment.
 
@ElimGarak lol
 
2:11 PM
@TartanLlama youdontsay.jpeg
 
It's a really really poor troll.
 
This guy... (The locking dude)
" byteorder

Rust library for reading/writing numbers in big-endian and little-endian."
Such high end.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, you can't expect rightfold to do a good troll.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Send in the telshitty.
Tell me rapidly the errors of my solutions.
 
sehe's not on mumble
 
2:20 PM
Mumble is on sehe's server. It was supposed to be only a temp gig when it was first introduced, but sehe graciously decided to let it live.
 
telkitty has a very nice voice
 
Yes, yes.
 
Yes, that's the only thing nice about her.
 
Sounded like jagged.
 
^ Reviews on an unofficial guide for one of our games.
 
2:24 PM
ahahah, freeloader
 
android badlets as usual
 
@Nooble no
more soft IIR jagged's voice correctly
 
@nabijaczleweli I say it's because of jagged's mic.
@jaggedSpire Get a better mic.
 
mic jagger
 
I still sound like a 12yo grill prolly
 
2:28 PM
@nabijaczleweli No, not really.
 
you'll get better don't worry
 
@nabijaczleweli It's 10 files.
Because .cpp .hpp and console log.
 
ermahgherd so many files
 
@EtiennedeMartel 4 stars? "Where is the game"....
 
2:31 PM
To the author's credit, he does say that the guide does not contain the game.
But reading instructions? If the Elite of the Lounge cannot do it, how is the pleb going to?
 
That's....
Deep
 
Shit, our users here don't even read error messages, even though the messages tells them exactly what thye need to do to fix the issue.
"Red exclamation mark? That possibly can't be important! Skip"
 
Do you guys deal with them? Try to assist them?
The clueless schmucks, that is. Not regular customers with issues.
 
We had an issue resolved this morning. A customer was complaining he couldn't backup anything from his external HD in Mac OSX. The external HD "didn't appear". We've been asking more information. Screen shots. Large dumps of system information. We've been asking whether they were using the proper mount point. We've tested mountpoints with spaces - whether they triggered some kind of bug (of course not).
 
2:39 PM
this may just be the third semi-tolerated GIF for the lounge
 
This morning we finally received a screenshot. They showed the `/` folder, unexpanded.
Flabberghasted, we asked for "the rest of screenshots". There were none. The FUCKS didn't even browse for the mountpoint.
 
Ahahah
 
@sehe IT™
 
@ElimGarak Our "customers" and "users" are all Ludia employees. They have to use our tools because it's our way of pushing them in the pit of success. So part of their job is reading the error messages.
 
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
 
2:40 PM
Have you tried turning it off and fucking off?
 
@EtiennedeMartel "have to use our tools because we're scarred there might be better tools"?
 
@thecoshman No, because our tools are designed with the engine in mind, so they force people towards best practices.
(Also, the only good tool in the whole world is Photoshop. Everything else is a piece of shit with a large user base)
 
@EtiennedeMartel if your tools are so good, why are you having to force them?
 
Because users like to stick to what they know.
From experience, your average user will prefer an inefficient and hack-heavy workflow with a tool they are familiar with to a efficient and streamlined workflow with a tool they are not familiar with.
 
oh for sure
and heaven forbid you try to offer them one simple thing they can do spare them doing hundreds of tedious other things that they often do wrong or forget
Never underestimate the determination of stupid
 
2:55 PM
There was this guy yesterday that tried to convince us that Photoshop was totally a tool for UI design if you enhance it with scripts that move your layers based on patterns in their names!
 
nah, too stupid to be funny
I also can't tell what side is meant to be read first :\
 
using excel as a database and/or programming language (for people that don't know macros nor an actual programming language) is just too common here
 
> using excel as a database
badlets
 
oh man, when I did a year working at a school, there was a lady who had the most insanely complicated spread sheet
she had hundreds of columns, with only about 20 input columns
 
sheet after sheet
it was amazing that it worked
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes holy sheet
 

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