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8:02 AM
The Labour Party is now a threat to our national security, our economic security and your family's security.
we've descended to calling the opposition a "threat" to national security
good job
 
that's baaaaad
 
Morning.
 
@Rerito Hey, I'm not in mourning :o
I wish I was though.
In Mourning is an excellent death metal band.
 
And I'm here listening to NTM
 
8:11 AM
xD
 
user1804599
@Morwenn Morwenn.
 
@elyse elyse
 
@TonyTheLion Who are they?
 
@Mr.kbok Who? The Labour Party?
 
@TonyTheLion Yes
 
8:14 AM
Its the other party in the British Government
 
The name sounds like that of a middle/far-left party.
 
and Jeremy Corbyn was recently elected Labour Leader
@Morwenn It is indeed left
 
Am I the only one to think that they handled that "Ahmed built a clock" situation the right way?
 
You are the only one
do you feel alone now?
 
8:15 AM
good
we've settled that then
 
Why so evil
 
@Rerito I literally don’t believe you.
 
@TonyTheLion When was the last time the left wing led GB?
 
@LucDanton Ceux qui ne voient le hip hop qu'avec des samples de pop et tous ceux là je les stop à base de popopopop
 
AFAIR never, lol
 
8:17 AM
@Mr.kbok 5 or so years ago, I think
I mean they were in power for quite a few years, under Gordon Brown
 
@BBC Was Basil Brush busy? What exactly is this random, made up bollocks?
 
In fact Gordon Brown was in power 2007 - 2010
and Labour was in power before that already.
 
@Rerito pls no
 
Nobody wants to talk about Ahmed's clock?
How is this possible
 
Ahmed trying to bomb a school and you think that's funny?
props to him for somehow managing to convince the police that it was merely a clock
 
8:20 AM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ What is there to talk about?
 
master of disguys
 
achmed
 
achmed juvénile
 
@TonyTheLion That everybody is going "Ermagherd the teacher is racist and America is not the land of the free" batshit crazy
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva That's terribly bad.
 
The dad obviously said that the boy was not arrested because of the clock but solely because of the skin color
 
@Morwenn Yeah but it passes when you grow up
 
I mean, wtf
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Happens all the time in France
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Is that really surprising? I mean, it's the USA you know.
 
8:22 AM
That's not what happened
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Because it was a tad overreaction by police and the teacher.
 
Are you serious?
 
A kid brings this to school and you think they overreacted?
 
put yourself in that kids shoes, you spent time being creative, and then you bring it to school to show the teacher, and the only response you get is that the police is called on you.
 
8:23 AM
If it was indeed a bomb, people would complain that "how the fuck did a kid brought a bomb to school".
 
It's not a bomb though, it looks nothing like a bomb
 
And the answer would have been "Oh, we were afraid to be racist, you know."
"But hundreds of kids died"
"At least we were not racist :)"
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion that'll teach him
 
user1804599
should've made it look like a clock
 
you're jumping through hoops trying to justify arresting a kid and assuming its a bomb
 
8:24 AM
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva You should look watch from Mehdi Kabir speeches. Priceless BS
 
Also their parents sending their kid to school with that.
I don't even.
 
Look, guys, it's easy to be a general after the battle.
 
@TheForestAndTheTrees It looks nothing like a bomb?
 
@elyse for a second I read "should've made it look like a cock"
 
Are you watching the same image I'm watching?
 
8:25 AM
Why are muslims sending their kids to school anyway, don't they have FLOWERS TO WATER
inb4 flag&ban
 
when's the last time a bomb needed to be plugged into a socket
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva you are really asking for it
 
@TheForestAndTheTrees Erm, what?
 
@TonyTheLion Oh come on it's just a racist joke, is it really my fault if they're not white?
 
user1804599
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva allahu clockbar
 
8:26 AM
@elyse cockbar*
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ do you not see the /plug/. because it's a freaking /clock/
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva no comment
 
Yo, Sherlock, maybe when you are presented with that the last thing you think about it "Do bombs need to be plugged into a socket?".
 
user1804599
no clockment
 
Hell, I would scream and cry like a little girl
 
user1804599
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ misogynist
 
@TonyTheLion wow you're so intolerant
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ well that answers how you get up in the morning
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva hahaha
 
"oh s my alarm is going off OH FUCK A CLOCK"
 
8:28 AM
not bad for torrents
 
@TheForestAndTheTrees Have you watched the image?
 
> watched
well played
 
There's nothing that hints to a clock whatsoever.
 
user1804599
it's clearly not a bomb either
 
user1804599
bombs looks like this:
 
user1804599
8:28 AM
 
@Rerito I’m not that bored
 
I'm a filthy pork eater!
 
@Xeo Thanks again for this article, it was really useful.
 
I still had to add some stuff there :/ See the updated answer with a fixed grammar. Consider keeping the rules static/shared (they can be const). Also note, it looks like you're doing macro expansion but very (very!!) inefficiently. Look at this very flexible sample‌​, this simple one using spirit, the same not using spirit. — sehe 1 min ago
Full Clippy mode again
 
8:39 AM
Ew~, I hate is when I'm chewing the threads in my cheeks.
 
threads are the wrong level of abstraction
 
Wow. SE Data dump is in. Average D/L ~10 MiB/s
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva I had a problem. They used threads to sew my gums back together. Now I have two problems.
 
@Morwenn It's awesome. I based my annotation lib on a hack inspired by this.
 
@Mr.kbok I had to tweak a bit bit more to achieve what I was tring to do though, but it's still awesome :)
 
8:43 AM
time to study algorithms
 
@Morwenn What are you trying to achieve?
 
@Mr.kbok A generic functor mixin for my sorter library.
 
functor as in function constructor or function object?
 
@Morwenn use bubble sort
an optimized bubble sort
 
At first, I only did a dispatch on the iterator category, but I wanted to be able to put several sorters with the same iterator category in the mix with different SFINAE conditions. Long story short, if I don't dcument properly, it will be unusable.
 
8:48 AM
I see
 
So basically, when I call such an hybrid sorter, it will check the iterator category of the arguments and pick the first sorter with the appropriate iterator category that's not excluded by SFINAE. And if there is no appropriate sorter for this iterator category, it will try with the parent category.
 
so you have like a decision-tree to select the appropriate overload, right?
 
is it a cedar
 
Not really. Currently, I simply play of the fact that there are no more than 4 standard iterator categories (and one is useless for sorting anyway) so it uses something like position + iterator_category_value<iterator_category<Sorters>> * 4.
 
@Morwenn ew :p
 
8:53 AM
Basically, I just use a simple multiplication and addition so that the choice is more influenced by the iterator category than by the position of the sorter in the mixin.
 
I thought you'd want orthogonal selection
 
I would like a trick to know how many indirections there are between std::random_access_iterator_tag and std::input_iterator_tag so that I don't have to hardcode some values.
Orthogonal selection?
 
yeah, the flattening of the preference<I> seems inflexible somehow
I'm picturing the overload selection as a matrix, with rows as iterator category and column as preference index
You flattened the matrix
 
Yeah, something like that.
 
Okay so I'm thinking aloud (except written)
 
8:58 AM
Also, I realized that being allowed to partially specialize a template in a class would have been great.
 
Maybe you want to select on preference as major order, but maybe you want the iterator category instead
Maybe you want to add a third dimension, too
Also, if all SFINAE fails for one iterator category, the preference goes to the next iterator category?
 
Iterator category is only used in the tag dispatch, not in the SFINAE.
 
Okay
 
It's the value that weights the most in the tag dispatch.
 
I think there may be something suboptimal with this technique but I can't seem to put my finger on it :P guess we'll see
 
9:02 AM
Basically, the goal is to be able to write something like that:
using sorter = hybrid_adapter<
    integer_spread_sorter,
    float_spread_sorter,
    pdq_sorter,
    quick_sorter,
    inplace_merge_sorter
>;
 
oh, I see how sfinae works... at a trivial level
 
@thecoshman It's very simple, really.
 
yeah, but like so many of these things, finding a place to use it where it makes sense is not so easy :P
 
If you give a random-access collection of integer or floating point numbers, it will call the appropriate spread_sorter, otherwise, if it's a random-access collection of another type, it will call the pdq_sorter. If it's a bidirectional collection, it will call quick_sorter, and if it's a forward collection, it will call the inplace_merge_sorter.
There are SFINAE conditions embedded in the return types of integer_spread_sorter and float_spread_sorter.
 
@thecoshman It tooks me years before actually needing it. (I used it, but it was forced, like you do with design patterns)
 
9:05 AM
@Morwenn "Basically", what you want to do is to select the more appropriate sorting algorithm depending on the operations you can perform on the iterators you are given?
 
@Rerito Exactly.
 
@Morwenn That's pretty cool
 
@xeo damn you and your chain of previous articles!
 
@Mr.kbok Yeah, but it made me realize that decltype(auto) wasn't SFINAE-friendly and that there were advantages to put the enable_if in the return type instead of putting it into the template parameters list.
 
@Morwenn Can't you put the condition as a typedef in the sorter?
Or a int_ called "appropriateness" where 0 is disable
 
Xeo
9:08 AM
@thecoshman lol, only the linked article is mine!
 
@Mr.kbok Note that I'm not sure anymore about this. I have some more tests to do now that the whoe things seems to work...
 
:)
I'd like to look at the code when you're done
It's always useful to look at real-life (~) template magic
 
@Mr.kbok No problem, time to clean it a little bit and it will be online on my GitHub :p
 
@Morwenn Interested here as well :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes "One can add a _lazy prefix to the old ones," don't you mean suffix? here
or do you really like leading with an underscore?
 
9:15 AM
Wait, partial specializations are allowed in a class but not full specializations?
 
user1804599
Specialisations are stupid anyway.
 
user1804599
The name says it all.
 
user1804599
Special casing.
 
@thecoshman welcome to 2015
@thecoshman don't look for places to use it. Approach a problem and only then think "is SFINAE a tool that would allow me to solve it?".
 
It's never been something I took much time to try to learn as I never really need it
@BartekBanachewicz well obviously
 
9:19 AM
@thecoshman you can hardly need something you can't use
that's why people say (mistakenly!) "I don't need advanced mathematics"
You can't make such statements if you can't use the thing.
 
well I've known what it offers for a long time, just never really understood how it actually works nor how to write my own code to take advantage of it.
 
Q: how does SFINAE work?
A: poorly
hth
 
more like htm
 
I have no idea what I'm saying
 
9:22 AM
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Nope, full specializations of variable templates and class templates.
 
full specialization of class templates are allowed, no? vector<bool>
 
@elyse It's pattern matching
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva yes
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Only at namespace level.
 
I have bought 2 freshwater pearl bracelets, only received one ... they probably stuffed up my order ...
speaking of which, I have deleted my ebay account for a few months, have not looked back since
 
9:30 AM
I think my most desired feasible feature of C++ right now is namespace shorthand notation
because fuck indentation
 
tab 2 the rescue
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva what. can't you indent like all sane people do:
namespace boost { namespace spirit { namespace traits {
    struct mything;
} } }
 
No because when I Ctrl-K Ctrl-D visual studio reindents everything
 
@chmod711telkitty I'm so proud of you
 
stop doing that maybe
 
9:33 AM
Convenient.
 
It's useful for other types of formatting though
 
visual studio formatting is stoopid
 
So, your most desired feasible feature is actually a VS feature?
Makes sense
 
@wilx I never used that one, but I guess so. Picking the right test is still something I'm not very good at, and that's why I just deferred you to it :D
 
:D
 
9:34 AM
COMMITTEE MUST FIX VS BUGS
 
I don't doubt that. I find Visual Studio very useful for some things too.
C++ programming is not one of them
 
also the only one I got is so small, the only one that could use it is probably the chicken
3
 
that's what... she... said...?
 
@ThePhD turns out using an "Anonymizing Proxy" violates the PayPal user agreement.
 
I will put it on my chook & take a picture after dinner
 
9:38 AM
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva I want that one too.
@Mr.kbok @Rerito Here you go.
 
@ThePhD and since I used one, to lift the block I need to... change my password and security questions..
lolwut
 
> sizes 0 to 15
please :p
 
sigh ... online shopping ... I really need to read the fine prints ...
 
@Mr.kbok That one was to benchmark a small fixed-sized arrays sorter (now an adapter). There are not in the documentation right now, but most of the benchmarks are done with collections of ~1 million elements.
 
Okay, cool :)
 
9:45 AM
@Mr.kbok what are we talking about here?
 
It would have been a little sad to super-optimize a lib used to sort 10 elements :p
@Borgleader What do you think?
 
@Mr.kbok well i just woke up and the first thing i saw was that ;)
 
@Morwenn also wow, you code is really tidy
@Borgleader It's usually the first thing I see when I wake up, too, since I take a shower
 
@Mr.kbok Well, its complexity makes it rather unreadable for most, so if it wasn't tidy, I couldn't even read it myself...
 
@Morwenn The lib I'm working on is complex but small enough for me to keep a mental model of it. The code is ugly though.
 
9:49 AM
@Mr.kbok Let's say that I have a mental model of my library, but will I still have this mental model in a few months? :p
 
I'm planning on cleaning up. :D
 
famous last words
 
I'm planning on writing unit tests x)
 
I hate people who literally translate english stuff
 
@Morwenn I did that part though.
 
9:50 AM
@MarcoA. such as fake diaper for fausse couche?
 
@MarcoA. Who's the offender?
 
"I will send my submission today" is a perfectly right English sentence.. translated in my language it becomes something sexually horrible
on the notes of "Please let me be the BDSM slave today"
 
ill snd submsin 2dy
 
you need to change the sentence almost entirely to avoid that meaning
 
pls send the submishinz
 
9:52 AM
plz make me submissive
you dirty C++ speakers
 
explicit content
 
@Mr.kbok Frankly, most of my tests are of the "does it compile?" kind. Since I did not write most of the actual algorithms, it's not really my responsability to unit test them.
 
exactly
 
@Morwenn btw, have you found a way to test for something that shoudn't compile?
 
@Mr.kbok Not really, but it's already a miracle that everything compiles, so I don't really worry.
 
10:04 AM
@Morwenn I wish my code were like this
 
Want to log out of every website? There's a site for that. This link is safe, but the link on reddit will work once you open it.
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva Improve your formatting tools.
 
Ctrl-Kill Ctrl-Despair
 
Just kidding, I format most of it by hand.
 
@thecoshman That's good trolling.
 
10:07 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes me? no, what I said is true there.
this isn't though o_o
 
He was being serious.
 
user1804599
Chrome better not preload it.
 
@thecoshman it's true there... How would some random site be allowed access to other domain's cookies. Even if only for deletion. Makes almost zarroo sense. If not less.
 
user1804599
@sehe open logout page in iframe maybe?
 
10:09 AM
@elyse yeah, that could work. Ifff there's such a url
It would make slightly more sense for logout requests to be POST only and require HMAC
@elyse That's not very nice. I'm considering flagging that. This could lead to real trouble for people.
 
@thecoshman I mean that it is good for trolling.
See above.
 
@elyse I was counting the seconds.
 
user1804599
@sehe And then the people who look at the flag click the link too! :D
 
@sehe Yeah, flag for maximum attention :)
 
@elyse You have 30s to reconsider
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva I'm not stupid
 
user1804599
10:11 AM
I already decided: no.
 
famous last words
 
@elyse i.imgur.com/qMKb3YR.png nice try friend
 
user1804599
;_;
 
user1804599
y u no script
 
for people like you :v
 
10:12 AM
@sehe it just goes to logout pages, and apparently most sites are fine with that meaning you should logout, ie they are bad. imgur properly protects by requiring some session info, facebook and reddit skirt around the problem by being bad and using POST to log out.
 
user1804599
I like PUT.
 
lol logout should be a POST by all means
 
user1804599
no, wait
 
and use CSRF
 
user1804599
DELETE /login-session/
 
10:13 AM
@elyse neat
 
it makes sense
 
yeah logout is POST with CSRF
 
Anyways. I only use github, gmail, youtube. From that list. And github didn't work
 
Discord uses DELETE for logging out actually
 
user1804599
lol somebody starred lasagnascript
 
user1804599
10:14 AM
that project has been abandoned since January
 
user1804599
def isNaN(x)(require x in number)
            (ensure out in boolean) =
    global.isNaN(x);
 
user1804599
this is gorgeous
 
the syntax sucks donkey balls
 
ikr
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva horse or donkey
 
10:16 AM
yes
 
both
I've been using python forever
but today I learned about pdb
it took a long time but I decided print debugging isn't enough
and I found that hack of a module
 
wrapper over std::atomic that provides copy/move and op=? stale_atomic?
 
terrible_atomic
 
not_quite_atomic_but_almost
 
volatile_int
 
10:20 AM
volatile_atomic<type, memory_order>
uh
 
at least pdb is similar to gdb
 
An c++ packet header expert here?
 
I know all about C++ packet headers.
 
Then, whould you help me.
 
10:24 AM
pls no
 
@CosminIovan No.
 
this isn't the room for that
 
10:25 AM
 
WTF is a "C++ packet header" anyway.
Go to the part of the site with "Questions" written all over it.
 
<future> has std::packaged_task, that must be it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's a header of class packet.
 
I'm a packet expert AMA
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva What's your real name?
 
10:26 AM
buttiful butterfly
 
@CosminIovan Get out.
 
7 messages moved to bin
 
simple C++ packet I/O
 
shitposts filtered
 
10:27 AM
@MarcoA. That's not a header.
 
Are those Ivan's packages Robot appropriated?
 
Xeo
whoo, time for 4 day short trip
 
Please don't get killed in the woods and have fun.
 
no promises
 
But getting killed in the woods is fun.
 
10:29 AM
 
:25764631 ffs
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you're right, fixed
 
lmao
 
:( This is bad.
 
that is the worst
 
10:30 AM
@CosminIovan Choose the "I should go" option on your dialogue wheel.
 
what is the order of addition for a + b + c?
 
from beginning to end
top to bottom
south to north
 
b to a, c to b?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes H&G
 
V to the A to the D, E, R.
The Lounge invented the Death Star.
 
10:33 AM
oh god
 
Anastasia is a bad woman, or a man?
 
@CosminIovan that is both patriarchal and feminist
 
@CosminIovan does it matter?
 
pls no sexism
 
@CosminIovan Go away.
 
10:34 AM
Eh, I almost missed that :o
 
Marco is our new official image macro provider (gedit???)
 
@CosminIovan No one cares.
 
@AnastasiyaAsadullayeva paint, I totally rock with it
see pointar images
 
Oh, gawd, the agenda-driven "The Gamechangers". And the media still believes everything on this planet that they don't understand is made by a single man.
 
10:39 AM
Not a married one
inb4 sehe sighing
 
oh, ffs.
 
Is that a cock ring or a cock necklace
 
The bracelet is not too small. I could put it around my wrist.
 
Oh, a cock bracelet.
 
10:40 AM
2 cocks, 1 telkitty
 
The pearls really suit her, don't they?
 
I think we should star it to let newbie users know what's interesting for us
that's professionalism
 
@TonyTheLion clear plx
 
all the hens and cocks ... they probably think we are a bunch of chicken farmers
 
10:43 AM
Also, I want some coke.
 
@chmod711telkitty Aren't you?
 
yes, I have 2 chickens
 
plz send one
 
Who made that one already?
 
melak?
 
10:43 AM
@ElimGarak what?
 
the same hen
 
@TonyTheLion Oh, nothin'! Thought someone starred the 2 cocks thing.
 
@Morwenn kbok
 
Ok, thanks.
 
@chmod711telkitty yep
 
10:47 AM
Disconnected from IRC again jeez
 
you know which chat doesn’t have an issue with message delivery
 
It's probably written in Rust where the type system guarantees delivery and ordering of messages
 

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