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12:00 PM
@MarcoA. what would the prize be
 
@ElimGarak Don't forget that these narcissistic people can drive others. Sharing their "healthy lifestyles" etc. That can be a great source of inspiration. Sometimes there's good emerging from the pile of shit :)
 
@Prismatic let's think about it
 
@Morwenn it's da shit
 
@MarcoA. oh, I even delvoted by now, but what does it matter.
I was merely answering because it was swifter and less distracting than shitposting about it in the lounge (which is the only reason I noticed the Q at all)
 
one redeemable coupon for use in the Lounge for a LoungeExpert(tm) to help you with a problem you are having
 
12:01 PM
Nuclear bombs started a revolution in the industry, so bad shit can have a good influence. However, nuclear bombs are still nasty. :P All the way back from the Chicago Pile.
 
@MarcoA. ?
 
!
 
@MarcoA. Ultimate Vladdery
 
@sehe Beware, vampires will plot to be shitposted here in the hope you'll feed them!
 
Yeah. The risk is real
 
12:03 PM
Also, thinking back, the Chicago Pile was a terrible implementation. It had absolutely no radiation shielding, which was definitely among the many things that contributed to Enrico Fermi's eventual death.
 
I should count the number of times a lounger saved my day
 
> The data is contained within a SQLite database. The file must be generated using at least SQLite version 3.8.7. The file must have the extension “.db”.
I'm writing a spec targeted at nooblets
 
I like sqlite
 
@Mr.kbok At least, you've got something formal to rely on
 
12:06 PM
@Rerito I'll leave them no room for failure.
 
And I'm here still asking to have some alg written in terms of graph theory
 
If you want to make money, all you have to do is make something that will appeal to people's vanity. Make it about them. And make it accessible to the dumbest among them. Tell intelligent people it's about some technical feature and not the former to save face. ... Profit.
 
You're so cynical
 
Cat rubbed off on me. But I sincerely believe Instagram was never about photo filters.
 
you, cat and puppy should form a cult
 
12:08 PM
@ElimGarak you're ready. why don't we build a startup?
 
user1804599
dammit
 
of cynicism, apathy and being annoyed at everything
 
@ElimGarak instagram is about building an addiction in users
 
user1804599
Windows has no exec, so I can't implement tail-spawn optimisation on Windows.
 
12:09 PM
@Rerito Nice. More.
Is there a female to male ratio statistic on Instagram?
 
Dunno but don't worry there are males too
 
I bet its skewed like A. Madison and just as secret
 
<sticks finger in the air> 90%
 
@ElimGarak I don't actually like the shape of her face, but I recognize she's pretty
 
I have no clue. Not loading (inb4 fired due to inappropriate content)
 
12:14 PM
@MarcoA. Yeah, it's weird-ish.
@Mr.kbok Sounds about right.
 
There are girls in the room (I mean here at work) hotter than this
 
I have a friend who tries to flirt with any girls he meets. If he fails he says the girl lacks something / has an ugly face / has an ugly body /etc..
 
"Regular girls" are almost always hotter to me. Probably because they're "tangible".
 
fungible
 
12:16 PM
I am the type of person who doesn't flirt with anyone. Which is a tactical decision that sometimes results in "You're not like the others." And in other cases, no embarrassment.
Win-win.
 
The embarrassment thing is definitely worth it
 
@ElimGarak I don't need to, most girls check me out :p
 
It's embarrassing only if you do it wrong :P
 
p sure i'd do it wrong
 
@ElimGarak She was in Italy :3
 
12:18 PM
Ich hatte drei coffee
 
I tend not to flirt with people unless I kind of know them and I am sometimes harassed in internet chats.
 
I something three coffee?
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Of course I'll do it wrong, I am familiar with estimating post-detonation neutron scattering. I am not one for smalltalk (not the language).
I'd fuck up a free meal.
 
I remember some famous blogger posting a picture of the cafe in front of our place on instagram. It looked gorgeous on the picture, though we always thought it was ugly
 
ein zwei policei drei feur officeur!
 
12:19 PM
I tend to show off my C++ skills to girls. Especially language-lawyering questions on SO
God knows why I'm still alone
3
 
@MarcoA. lmao!
 
@Morwenn yes, let's continue this conversation by private e-mail
 
"Hey sexy, look at my mad skillzzzz"
 
Some people want my email to talk about C++ with me.
 
@MarcoA. im swooning just thinking about that
 
12:20 PM
@Mr.kbok Eh, you were faster than me x)
 
What do you even talk about with girls? I mean regular I-have-500-followers-on-instagram girls, not Morwenn.
 
fucking Jira use here drives me nuts. We have 'bugs', we have 'releaseX', want to see bugs for that release? well OBVIOUSLY the only possible solution is to add a new Kanban board!
 
I'd seriously feel anxious with 500 people following me anywhere.
 
@ElimGarak In general, the same things I talk about with guys?
 
12:23 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes The bitches they all claim they fucked, but didn't?
 
@MarcoA. 2014 called, they want their old shit back
 
(my "regular" guys)
 
@ElimGarak I don't talk to those guys.
 
@MarcoA. lol
 
@thecoshman is that copied from a sketch somewhere? I'm not aware of it
 
12:24 PM
Lucky you, I can't evade them. It's pretty much all they do in life.
 
> I am using ionic to create an app and run it on iPhone. I have index.html file in which I want to load 4 fat libraries having extension .a with their header files. Is there any way I can load them in the Javascript? This is what I have done so far but still not working.
 
Would be nice to have the Loungers in meatspace.
 
How many insta followers do you have @Morwenn ?
 
@ElimGarak So many black eyes, so much blood. No thanks.
 
@Mr.kbok Exactly zero. I'm not on Instagram.
 
12:26 PM
@Mr.kbok See, that's a woman right there.
 
Maybe you have a fan account
 
TIL I learnt @Morwenn is a girl. I'm so oblivious
 
@Mr.kbok I would honestly be surprised.
 
@ElimGarak What do you mean?
@Morwenn That'd be creepy probs
 
Aug 10 at 19:11, by Morwenn
@khajvah I'm not a girl.
 
12:27 PM
@Rerito it's left for the appreciation of the reader
 
Awwww, that's relieving
 
She doesn't feel like being a girl, just like rightfold doesn't feel like being a boy.
 
@Mr.kbok Morwenn sexually identifies as an attack helicopter.
 
> Today I learned I learnt
 
@Rerito Why's that relieving? x)
 
12:27 PM
It would mean I'm not that oblivious afterall
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I think you've got it wrong all the way down xD
 
Oh maybe, you are exactly like rightfold.
I can't keep track of this anymore.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Yes, let's get drunk
 
@ElimGarak I didn't invent that. It's a copypasta.
 
12:29 PM
Let's get punk.
 
Let's cap some fools.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I have and always had a dick if it makes it clear.
 
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bla.exe is built for Framework None and Platform X64.
wth is this
 
@Morwenn Have you tried smacking a cactus with it?
 
@Morwenn Interesting
Keep me updated
 
12:30 PM
@ElimGarak Have you?
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Not really.
 
@MarcoA. the video, or what I said?
 
Pics in Jeffrey's inbox or it didn't happen.
 
user1804599
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ ?????
 
@Morwenn A few times as punishment for contemplating JavaScript.
@elyse !!!!!
 
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12:32 PM
HOW TO BLOCK SOCKET
 
visual studio has playlists...?
 
They merged Visual Studio and Winamp to improve stability.
10
 
Yeah, I listen to AC/DC often.
 
ITT @ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ makes an arse of himself
 
They had to break C++14 compliance in order to do it, tho.
 
12:34 PM
@ElimGarak aw, that's ok. At least this way, winamp will live on!
 
Man, this concert. Fuck. <3
 
Can I implement copy assignment as follows?:
my_type& operator=(my_type const& other) {
this->~my_type();
new(this) my_type(other);
return *this;
};
 
That's horrendous.
 
It seems to work but I wounder if I wont be running into undefined behavior
 
12:35 PM
@gnzlbg No, that would create a pretzel in the spacetime around it.
 
@ElimGarak I raise you Iron Maiden's Fear of the Dark live in Rio
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes i know, is it UB?
 
@Morwenn holly shit
 
@ElimGarak funny story... we were at a highway interchange when that song came on... we were getting on to highway 666
 
spacetime pretzels yum you're a genius chef
 
12:36 PM
@ElimGarak Could you elaborate?
 
Xeo
Oh btw Robot, I got my coworker to time my cubing on the way back from lunch. With incomplete 2-step OLL, 2-step PLL and fumbling on the go 'twas 1:28 apparently.
 
@gnzlbg Dunno, don't care.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Thanks anyways for the feedback :)
 
Basically, I want nothing to do with that.
 
Xeo
@gnzlbg Derived classes will hate you
And so will we
 
user406009
12:37 PM
@gnzlbg I think that will fail if you try to assign to yourself.
 
Meh, self-assignment.
 
user406009
Or if your constructor or destructor throws.
 
@gnzlbg As Robot mentions, it is difficult to want anything to do with that. You should just scrap it.
 
@gnzlbg are you trying to move it or something?
 
No I just wanted to save 5 lines of code
 
12:38 PM
@gnzlbg Why are you trying to hurt yourself?
 
We need an intervention.
 
its for a "vector-like" type that does memory management but of fixed capacity
so if the capacities don't match i cannot reuse the memory
 
std::array
 
@thecoshman what you said. I didn't understand it
 
You mean like std::array?
 
user406009
12:39 PM
@thecoshman He's trying to avoid writing both a constructor and copy constructor. He wants to reuse his constructor code.
 
Never. Call. Destructor.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ yes but with dynamic size
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ No memory management.
 
std::valarray
 
12:39 PM
great, now I can finally hire people on SO careers.
 
yeah like that
its an octree of fixed dynamic size
but i said "dynamic array" because it uses 2 unique_ptrs inside
the copy constructor uses copy to well copy the elements of the unique_ptr<T[]>
its 10 lines, and the logic is the same
 
@gnzlbg What about just have a wrapper around vector and throw if the container is full?
 
after implementing constexpr variants i am confy with placement new
enough confy to be dangerous :D
 
@Xeo That's pretty good. Add some finger tricks and some lookahead and you can get close to 1:00.
 
@gnzlbg can I see?
 
12:41 PM
@Lalaland fuck that
 
sure wait
let me leave the copy constructor out and I'll commit
 
@gnzlbg you mean like std::vector
 
i dont want anybody to see that
 
@MarcoA. you need to use the word rockstar more
 
Can't be worst than the thing you already posted. Wait, it can.
 
Xeo
12:41 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm kinda getting hung up on F2L with turning the cube.
 
https://github.com/gnzlbg/ndtree
travis is down due to LLVM branching 3.7...
 
@Xeo Do you always slot on FR?
 
Xeo
Since R/U is quickest to turn for me, I always align the edge I'm working on to that.
@R.MartinhoFernandes ye
 
Try to remember that you can do the slotting in other corners.
It comes naturally if you keep that in mind.
If you start developing habits in F2L you lose the advantages of intuition.
 
@gnzlbg the optional?
 
12:44 PM
I got used to doing a lot of sub-optimal moves in F2L because they look cool :(
Sexy moves are sexy.
 
@gnzlbg rules of numbers!
 
Xeo
I have to check some more F2L moves. I know I'm being inefficient in a few of them
 
@melak47 ?
@thecoshman ?
 
I just had a meeting with the Dutch version of Puppy
 
ohh..constexpr variants of octrees and stuff
 
12:45 PM
Headlights is my favourite algo because of that.
F sexy sexy sexy F'
 
ah! the variants are not there, i thought you wanted to see the octree
the variants are in a constexpr branch of range-v3
and also in a meta tutorial
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, that's easy to remember. I should do that.
 
@gnzlbg write the damn constructors or don't, don't half do it
 
Xeo
although I tend to turn F/F' by grabbing F and turning it through my wrist.
 
I should start learning the algos
 
12:46 PM
@thecoshman i had it written as above, but that was ugly, i was just wondering if that was UB because it does work
 
@Xeo FINGER TRICKS
Don't use the wrists. EVER
Wrists are evil.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I knoooow. :<
 
@gnzlbg "it does work" doesn't matter if it's fucking hideous shit
 
Xeo
I fumble really hard when I try to turn the cube through just finger tricks, though
 
@thecoshman still, if it is not UB, and it had no problems, why not?
it turns out it does has problems with derived clases and possibly others
 
12:48 PM
@Xeo Maybe your cube is too rigid?
 
i learned something from posting it
 
The 3-corner cycle PLL is a good one to get used to finger tricks.
 
Xeo
@gnzlbg UB can work, too.
 
@gnzlbg because it's fucking shit
 
@AndyProwl We three all have the same now :D
 
12:48 PM
oh :D
this cube is really good
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes I got the predecessor :P
 
user406009
@gnzlbg Now that everyone's done making fun of that, let me give you the actual solution to enable code reuse. The copy and swap idiom (en.wikibooks.org/wiki/More_C%2B%2B_Idioms/Copy-and-swap).
 
user406009
That's how you get code reuse in a sane manner.
 
doesn't break when you rotate fast
 
> model.set_field().update() = some_value;
 
12:48 PM
I got down to 48 secs
 
@Xeo I'd rather not use UB. I think if you construct something with placement new you need to call its destructor explicitly
 
how do you get that far without thinking
> model.set_field(some_value);
 
@Lalaland not really, in C++ >= 11 i don't see why would anybody use copy-and-swap
 
Xeo
@AndyProwl cause everything's screwed in place
 
std::swap works just fine most of the time
 
12:49 PM
The general wisdom is not to construct things with placement new and not to call the destructors manually.
 
@Xeo Try the 3rd one for the A permutation: speedsolving.com/wiki/index.php/…
 
@Xeo so glad I bought this one
 
Except with unions since you don't really have a choice.
 
Also practices your pinky (or ring finger depending on preference).
 
@gnzlbg "rather not use UB"... like it's something you can sometimes consider ok. FFS, sit down before you fall down.
 
12:50 PM
@Morwenn and with std::aligned_storage
 
_t
why does nobody like _t :p
 
_t is verboten
 
@thecoshman Too late for sitting down, straight down to the abyss. :P
 
@melak47 because it's shit mate
 
@melak47 _t stands for trash
 
12:52 PM
@thecoshman a lot of people do, there is a lot of UB in the wild, I avoid it but sometimes it is hard
 
@AndyProwl Because it has torpedoes championscubestore.com/…
 
@gnzlbg No.
 
@Morwenn sadly General Wisdom is usually after being thrown out the window along with Lieutenant Sensible
 
@AndyProwl It's a pain to disassemble, though. I always need to unscrew it to do so.
 
@gnzlbg No, it's not.
¬_¬ are you Polish?
you sound a lot like Bartek trying to defend driving over the speed limit
 
12:53 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes who do you need to disassemble it?
 
union {
double v[3];
struct {
double x, y, z;
};
}
is really typical
 
@AndyProwl to get inside its head
 
in a lot of opengl libraries
 
@AndyProwl Cleanup. Mine is full of some finely ground powder which I suppose consists of all kinds of dirt.
 
yes type pruning is probably the most widly used type of undefined behavior
 
12:54 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh. I don't look forward to cleaning it up
 
@gnzlbg and that alone is not UB, it's also shit mate
 
that and const_cast
 
won't it suffice to just immerse it in water
 
@thecoshman type pruning is undefined behavior
 
to wash the powder off I mean
 
12:55 PM
Ah, maybe.
 
@gnzlbg what if you concurrently set both members to the same values from different threads - then both are the most recently written to one :D
 
Ell
I thought it was type punning
 
But it also has dirt ingrained in some places.
 
@gnzlbg using it how I suspect you want to is yes, but such a union alone is fine. It's also shit
 
@melak47 thats probably a race
 
12:55 PM
I've seen there are also special lubricants but didn't buy that one
5
I don't think I'm that professional yet
 
user406009
@gnzlbg Using std::swap or whatever doesn't matter. The important part is that your copy assignment creates a copy using your copy constructor and then swaps that copy with your own data.
 
@AndyProwl you knew what you were doing
 
Thousands of turns tend to press the dirt into corners and then it gets stuck and compressed there.
 
@thecoshman yes the union is fine, but the way its used (setting one member, accesing through the other is UB)
 
Ell
What is wrong with double& x() { return x }
 
12:56 PM
@thecoshman lol screw you guys
 
Ell
?
 
@AndyProwl Good cubes don't need lube.
 
@Ell depends, what's x
 
user406009
@gnzlbg It allows you to reuse your copy constructor code in your copy assignment code.
 
@gnzlbg yes, UB, shit and not necessary
 
12:56 PM
@Lalaland yes I realized that, thanks, ! It does help!
 
I have lube but I only use it for the cheap ones.
 
user1804599
Go to the supermarket and buy lubricant and the biggest cucumber you can find and nothing else.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes How does it feel with lube?
 
Mostly for the unusual puzzles, since those don't often come in speedcubing variants.
 
@thecoshman tell that to e.g. google test fixed point arithmetic
 
12:56 PM
I see, well hopefully I won't need it
 
Ell
Balls I meant v[0]
 
@Ell ugly function call :p
 
user1804599
"sending arguments" ugh
 
Ell
ugly over UB anyday
 
Am I the only think those two are kind of similar?
 
user1804599
12:58 PM
@Ell it's C++ code.
 
@thecoshman stackoverflow.com/a/3423299/1422197 UB just right there
 
@gnzlbg all it's saving is a trivial to optimise a way call to access the element at a certain index. float x(){ return data[0]; } maybe return a float&
 
@gnzlbg If everyone jumps off a bridge, will you do it, too?
 
I probably would yes
 
Dudes, I've never write UB, but some types of UB are less undefined than others, and some types are perfectly defined
 
12:59 PM
I wouldn't want to live alone
 
@gnzlbg Protip: if it's C++ and it's from Google, it's probably shit.
 
There's probably a good reason if everyone jumps off a bridge.
 
not everybody needs nor can write portable code
 

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