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10:00 PM
I use to do some fun hacking on an XP SP3 machine.
 
its not a security issue because nobody makes XP targeted viruses or anything like that anymore
 
If you had bought a Mac, you would have eventually saved in medical and shrink bills.
 
user406009
The main thing is that there is almost no reason to use windows XP nowadays (other than legacy software)
 
ive had a mac there shit
 
@nabijaczleweli
 
10:00 PM
@snipe You're right- they don't even have to target it to hit it because all of their existing exploits still work.
 
@snipe You mean "they are"?
 
you clearly dont know what terget means
 
@snipe They're not. They're just expensive.
 
target*
 
@snipe Of course he doesn't.
 
user406009
10:01 PM
Nooble's correct. Macs are great if you want to shell out the cash.
 
@snipe You can edit your own messages :)
 
Im not typing in perfect english so forget it
I didnt know that
 
@Lalaland That's like saying, "Every option is a viable option as long as you have infinite resources"
which is true but meaningless.
 
Macs do not require "infinite resources", lol
 
also I've been using a Mac at work and fuck me, it's not worth a cheap Windows box, let alone a half-comparatively-priced one
 
10:02 PM
macs are crap
 
user406009
@Puppy I had the opposite experience. Used a Mac at work and thought it was actually quite good.
 
they glue the screen on LOL
and how much does a mac cost again......
 
@snipe What are you gonna replace the panel?
 
My Macbook has 5 years, it had not a single problem.
 
what alternative would you recommend?
 
10:03 PM
I never used a Mac and it was quite a good experience.
 
windows XP
on a PC
 
Yes they're crazy expensive, but hardware-wise, it's ok.
 
My old computer I bought with half the price of the Mac, but lost more than a Macbook in the end in repair parts and lasted only 3 years.
 
also I'm curious as to your knowledge of the chemical composition of the glue and it's characteristics in gluing on screens.
 
That's my experience.
 
10:03 PM
one without a weedy ass trackpad and keyboard
 
user406009
It was like a 50% surcharge vs component price last I checked.
 
@snipe are you talking about iMac?
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ What are you doing to your poor PCs :(
 
macs in general
 
the glass panel is held on by magnets
not glue
 
10:04 PM
I've had a Windows laptop for 3 years and it still looks nice and works nice.
 
@Nooble Back then? Nothing, playing call of duty, portal and minecraft.
 
user1804599
I should once more try to make a game in Clojure.
 
I wasn't even a "programmer" back then.
So no hacking no nothing.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Minecraft is great.
 
glued on for 1500$
 
user1804599
10:04 PM
assoc-in and update-in are delights.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ You were always a programmer at heart <3
 
2 RAMs got destroyed, 1 video card, something in the motherboard, viruses everywhere, etc...
 
user406009
@elyse Using clojure?
 
apple just want the cheapest everything they dont care about making good computers
 
@snipe did you even see what I just said? :/
 
10:05 PM
FACT
 
Either it's me, or...
 
user1804599
@Lalaland yes
 
probably not
something about magnets
still rediculous
 
then you can use your eyes and read upwards
look up an iMac teardown
 
10:06 PM
I know its glue
 
user406009
@elyse I agree. Clojure's collections are the best from all that I have tried. If you want to use them in JavaScript, there is ImmutableJs
 
macs in general
 
"reticulous" -> "use your eyes" lol
 
user1804599
uh yes I know about those things thank you
 
user406009
@elyse The sad part is that assoc-in like operations come at the cost of any type safety.
 
10:06 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ To be fair, most Windows PCs sell today with preloaded bloatware, and that's just crappy. I tend to just wipe the OS and do a clean install.
 
@snipe Please show me a laptop with equivalent characteristics of a Macbook that costs considerably less, that you would buy.
 
user1804599
No.
 
look up an ifixit teardown of an iMac, theres tons of pics
 
user1804599
It doesn't.
 
cheap labour, cheap materiais, false advertising
 
user1804599
10:06 PM
There is still type-safety.
 
IIRC Clojure is like LISP vs. JVM, right?
 
user1804599
But there is less type-safety than with other techniques.
 
user1804599
You are once again confusing Booleans with scales.
 
thats pretty easy
 
user1804599
Also core.typed understands assoc-in.
 
10:07 PM
@Lalaland [cough cough](chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/84081/loungegaem)
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ There's the Razer Blade, but it's still pretty expensive.
 
@Nooble violently ignores
 
apple also avoid paying tax
 
user406009
@Morwenn Yes. Clojure is also a nice example of what you can achieve when you try to make a simple programming language.
 
user406009
It's like a piece of art.
 
10:08 PM
apple illigally obtain matitials
 
Well, I guess it takes from LISP from an elegance point of view.
 
apple are fulll of shit
 
@snipe No, you!
 
@snipe Full of worms but I have yet to find shit in apples.
 
I honestly thought of buying a laptop with the help of one of my friends which can't wait to see me get away from Apple. And we sat down and realized that the best you can save is like $100-200 bucks out of $1'300 by buying any laptop with equivalent characteristics and known brand nowadays.
 
10:09 PM
Man, my comebacks are great today.
 
user1804599
yes we get it you don't like Apple now get out
 
@snipe Google also does
 
user406009
@elyse Didn't know that. Quite impressive.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ What are these characteristics?
 
@Nooble Take the specs of the latest cheapest macbook pro.
 
10:10 PM
Built-in rational numbers sounds good.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Alright...
 
Find me one that has the same or better characteristics and that makes you save considerably less.
Like, say 20% less.
That doesn't use hardware that will die in like 6 months because its from a crappy company or whatever.
 
user1804599
@Morwenn except they fucked it up
 
We are talking about known brands.
 
user1804599
1/2 * 2 results in an integer, not in a rational.
 
user1804599
10:12 PM
But numerator and denominator are only defined on rationals.
 
user1804599
So (numerator (* 1/2 3)) works, but (numerator (* 1/2 2)) throws a type error.
 
Doesn't integer derive from ratio?
 
user1804599
< and > only work on numbers for no good reason.
 
It would make sense if you're trying to do a vague value-based dynamic downcast or I don't know what else.
 
user1804599
They should've been defined in terms of Comparable<T>.
 
10:13 PM
BENDY IPHONES
 
Way to fuck up a promising project.
 
user1804599
Clojure is full of horrible crap like this.
 
oh shit that one slipped out
 
user1804599
Maybe I shouldn't use it afterall.
 
I aplologize
 
10:14 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Take a look at the Asus N550JK, at $800. Performance wise, it matches the $1300 MBP for most, and beats it out on the processor (i7-4700HQ vs i5) and GPU (NVIDIA GTX 950M vs Intel HD6100).
 
user1804599
But Scala has no stable lens libraries, so writing games in it really sucks.
 
Let's see
 
Seriously, is there a programming language that hasn't broken basic features?
 
user1804599
Vlinder.
 
user1804599
But it has no working implementation yet.
 
10:15 PM
no, no youre always right despite people bending them
 
lol
 
user1804599
hello world almost works again though!
 
they must be like play doh iphones and not apple at all
 
@elyse Which language is it supposed to look like syntactically speaking?
 
user1804599
dunno
 
10:15 PM
Ok.
 
user1804599
Java maybe, except types after variable names instead of before them.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ It also has a 15 inch IPS HD touchscreen panel.
 
user1804599
alias will be changed to typealias soon.
 
@elyse var foo: int ?
 
user1804599
10:16 PM
let foo: Int = 1
 
user406009
@elyse That looks like Rust.
 
user1804599
Ok!
 
@Nooble The ASUS website doesn't mention how much cache memory it has
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Cache? It has 8GB of DDR3L.
 
@Nooble That's not cache
 
10:18 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ You mean L3?
 
Also, the retail price is $1.099 from the official website: store.asus.com/us/item/201503AM040000010/A23314
 
user406009
@elyse You are complaining that clojure doesn't support operator overloading for custom types?
 
user1804599
No.
 
And it has a Intel i7 2.4GHz, while the equivalent macbook has 2.7GHz
2.7GHz dual-core Intel Core i5 processor.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Check Newegg, it needs to be JK-DS71 I think.
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ That i7-4710HQ has 4 cores and is hyperthreaded.
 
user1804599
10:20 PM
I don't really know how to implement type checking of type classes though.
 
It turboboosts to 3.4GHz, I believe.
 
user1804599
Well I guess it shouldn't be very hard without subclassing.
 
@Nooble I see
 
user1804599
Also I'm thinking of disallowing conflicting type class instances per program, instead of per module.
 
user1804599
10:21 PM
Because that works better with type reification and reflection.
 
user1804599
So it'll be checked at link time.
 
@Nooble That's not the official website, sorry doesn't count :)
And you are paying 1100 out of 1300 (mac), which makes it a 15+% save
Not 20%
And those $200 go directly in medical bills as @snipe showed us today :P
 
my laptop was 900£
it is way better than any macbook
macbooks are getting smaller
 
well, of course it is
macbooks are Macs.
 
10:26 PM
there like 11 inches now which is stupid
 
user1804599
Reflection is neat for stuff like show.
 
why not just call it a netbook
 
@Nooble The battery doesn't look better
 
user406009
@elyse I am somewhat interested, do you mind sharing your language's primary improvement over Haskell?
 
I'm not an expert
 
user1804599
10:28 PM
@Lalaland dunno
 
If you say that "Battery: 3Cells 48 Whrs" is better than "Built-in 74.9-watt-hour lithium-polymer battery" I trust you
 
user1804599
The goal is to have green threads in the browser.
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Haha, no, you're right.
 
user406009
Why green threads over async-await?
 
user406009
I find that async-await tends to be quite usable.
 
user1804599
10:29 PM
Because they don't require you to change your API from returning T to returning Future[T] and hence are less obtrusive.
 
user406009
The advantage of async-await is that they are less complicated to understand and follow.
 
user406009
Didn't we already have this discussion?
 
user1804599
lol, no
 
user406009
Or was that someone else?
 
@Nooble Also 2kg vs 1.58kg
 
user1804599
10:31 PM
instead of dealing with one thing, you now have to deal with all of them at the same time
 
user1804599
@Lalaland yeah probably
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Yes yes, and the MBP has better build quality.
 
@Nooble And 1920x1080 resolution vs 2560x1600 resolution (even with a smaller screen)
 
user1804599
funfact Torvalds uses MacBook
 
user406009
@elyse Then I won't waste your time. Best of luck with your programming language.
 
10:32 PM
I gotta hand it to you that 128GB SSD is very small
 
user1804599
thanks :3
 
I'll go to sleep now.
 
user1804599
goodbye sweet princess
 
Somehow I love you people and I mean it :3
 
user1804599
sleep well
 
10:33 PM
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ I suppose...
 
Thanks ^_^
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ Depends on what the power consumption of the system is
 
And at least the asus has 4 fucking USB ports
looks furiously at Apple
Oh wait, they added the 2 USB3 ports
Nevermind
 
If you want you can still see how I stumbled my way through this API: part #1 and part #2 (experiment) — sehe 12 secs ago
 
Didn't they release a macbook with 1 single USB3 port that was also used for power?
 
10:34 PM
@Morwenn sleep well
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ The "Macbook".
 
@sehe Thank you too :)
 
And that's a USB type C connector.
 
> MacBook: Light. Years ahead.
 
The one that hasn't really been introduced to the market yet.
 
10:35 PM
Yeah, and 10 years behind
 
@ʎǝɹɟɟɟǝſ It's practically a tablet with a keyboard.
Very underpowered
 
yeah, that's terrible methink
 
Don't fall asleep now
that would be a waste of time
@thecoshman I can remind you of this periodically
 
lol one fuckikng port
ONE PORT
how STUPID LETS THINK DIFFERENTLY!
 
user406009
It's not so bad.
 
user406009
10:37 PM
You just carry around a USB extension thingy.
 
It's pretty bad
 
user406009
And most Mac monitors provide extra usb ports.
 
I want one.
 
except its a laptop
why not just stop trying to be clever and do what everybody else does
which is HAVE 4 PORTS
 
user1804599
why only one?
 
10:38 PM
jesus
 
@elyse 4!
I want 4!
 
4 is really not necessary.
 
user1804599
sell 3
 
2 is good enough
 
user1804599
???
 
user1804599
10:38 PM
profit!
 
user406009
@Nooble There's only one mouse good enough for me:
 
not if the usb thumb drive is too bulky
 
@snipe and remap the caps lock key because it's never useful
 
caps lock is useful
 
10:39 PM
FOR SHOUTING YOU MEAN
 
@Lalaland But the MX Master has so many neat features.
 
user406009
@elyse USB ports supposedly take up space. And Apple is trying to make really, really thin laptops.
 
YES
 
@sehe CRUISE CONTROL.
 
GET OUT
 
user406009
10:39 PM
@Nooble Which you will never use.
 
user406009
CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
 
WOOOOOO.
 
user406009
Also caps lock to backspace = best remap every.
 
user406009
The only mouse feature actually worthwhile is a button for changing the dpi.
 
@Lalaland to Escape, obviously
 
10:41 PM
@Lalaland The MX Master's scroll wheel can freespin.
Perfect for prop-killing in GMod.
 
user406009
@sehe Well that too. Depends on what text editor you use really.
 
you guys stil have not fixed my wifi password problem
 
@sehe I got caps remapped to ctrl/cmd on all my computers
 
@snipe Cool beans.
 
@snipe tell us your password
 
10:42 PM
@ʞɔᴉN Ok mr HHKB.
 
which one
I have like 80+
 
@Nooble mad cuz masterrace
 
@ʞɔᴉN Pok3r number 1.
Programmable or bust
Fn + P is my password.
 
I want windows to renember the password, not you
but it wont
 
@snipe N o o n e c a r e s
 
10:44 PM
Gary Larson comments on Ashley Madison having 0% active women users: http://t.co/TR4slwGeqx
loled
 
@snipe I can remember your Windows of your password
 
@Nooble hunter2?
 
Just send me the master password file and your master key.
 
that doesnt even make sense
there is no master password
or key
 
@nabijaczleweli •••
 
10:45 PM
@snipe use linux instead
 
I dont have time, NEXT
 
user406009
@snipe Try a different chatroom?
 
my hardware isnt supported for XP which is gay
 
@snipe Are you like 5 weeks old?
 
@Lalaland this is my recommended solution
 
10:46 PM
@snipe nothing is supported for XP. Try again
 
Haha I think he plonked me.
 
how do I get windows 7 to renember the wifi oassword
 
@snipe That's an interesting pun
NeXTSTEP was an object-oriented, multitasking operating system based on UNIX, which was developed by NeXT Computer in the late 1980s and early 1990s. It was used initially its range of proprietary workstation computers such as the NeXTcube and later ported to several other computer architectures. Although relatively unsuccessful at the time, it attracted interest from computer scientists and researchers. It was used as the original platform for the development of the first AppStore, The Electronic AppWrapper was the first commercial electronic software distribution catalog to collectively manage...
 
Last time I was plonked was by Puppy. "Accidentally".
 
NEXT was Steve Jobs' company
 
10:47 PM
@snipe how not
 
Logo styled the e or x somehow
@Nooble riight
 
neXt or something
 
either the e or x was tilted
 
I think it's actually just NeXT and
 
10:49 PM
 
how do I get windows 7 to renember the wifi oassword
serioustly
 
If I was a room owner, I could deal with this.
 
saving you some trouble
 
#Nooble2016
2
 
user406009
@snipe This is the wrong chatroom for that sort of question.
 
10:50 PM
thanks, it will be needed
 
it's not a question. It's a troll
 
user406009
@snipe Do you happen to have any C++ questions?
 
yeah how do I (in C++) tell windows to renember my wifi password
 
But at least we have a "negative" on any of the Cicada tests
 
user406009
@snipe That's not a feature of the C++ language. Perhaps you should try a Windows developer chatroom or check the windows docs?
 
user406009
10:51 PM
NEXT
 
Im not allowed in the windows chat
 
user1804599
NSObject
 
and its crap anyway
 
user1804599
NS prefix comes from NeXTSTEP.
 
some people here told me to get windows 7 so I did
now youre saying you cant tell me this...
 
10:52 PM
1. tell it to nember a blob of memory.
2. Then, write a script to repeatedly nember a blob from a file.
3. Put the wifi oassword in the file¹
4. Run the script on the file.

Voilà, instant renembering! And the best part is, you can make the number of renemberings dynamic this way.

¹ passwords work as well
 
user406009
@snipe Correct, we can't tell you.
 
user1804599
sleeptime
 
@Lalaland everybody falling for it... It's kinda hilarious both ways
 
user1804599
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um well thats stupid
 
user406009
10:54 PM
I guess in retrospect it's a pretty obvious troll.
 
user406009
@elyse Have fun.
 
please stop trolling
 
@VisualStudio Even weirder - let's give you the ACTUAL link. Geepers, Wally. http://blogs.msdn.com/b/dotnet/archive/2015/08/21/the-future-of-unity.aspx
lol
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