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Ell
12:00 AM
Yeah that is a pain
I should never have been taxed in the first place for the amount I earned
 
I should have paid tax but only a pretty small amount on my last payday or two.
I've got a large maount I can reclaim.
 
Ell
But my tax code was incorrect
I'm exhausted
Night everyone!
Or maybe just you puppy :P
 
screw you, "everyone".
 
12:30 AM
i wish fixing problems on ubuntu (linux in general) wasnt so aggravating :(
inb4 ubuntu sux
 
@Borgleader why do you need to dim your screen?
 
@Blob to save power, its a laptop
 
maybe your problem is that you want to dim your screen. there's a fix for that :D
 
12:52 AM
This toolchain is shit from A to Z and going through all unicode blocks and planes.
> Hackers wanted to fix healthcare. Join us. Drchrono // Django and iOS
A 9 am cringe a day keeps a good morning away
 
1:09 AM
@Cicada its 9am for you?
oh right, youre in singapor?
 
Almost, HK
 
@Cicada How well do you need to know the native language if at all to live there?
 
Not at all
The majority of people speaks English and nearly everything is available both in Cantonese and English.
It's (yet another) ex British colony
 
@Cicada lot of those going around
 
@Cicada Oh I see, thats cool.
 
1:24 AM
that said the increase in MSS activity would make me nervous to work in HK
 
Microsoftsoft?
 
Ministry of State Security
The Ministry of State Security (MSS) is the intelligence agency and security agency of the People's Republic of China (non military area of interests), responsible for counter-intelligence, foreign intelligence and political security. It is headquartered near the Ministry of Public Security of the People's Republic of China in Beijing. Article 4 of the Criminal Procedure Law gives the MSS the same authority to arrest or detain people as regular police for crimes involving state security with identical supervision by the procuratorates and the courts. The network of state security bureaus and the...
 
Oh, never heard of it before. Should I be concerned?
 
are you actively plotting an overthrow of the government of china?
if not no
 
Only passively
Is that why you're nervous?
 
1:27 AM
but as a foreign national working for a foreign corporation, I would be on their list of targets
they are notorious for bugging people, and installing malware onto laptops
to the point that most US corporations send burner laptops when going into china
 
Ah yes I've seen a friends laptop whose DNS were mysteriously changed :)
 
as for the term increase... well the MSS have always been in HK, but they are being more proactive with the current protests
that said I think they are being very laid back, I figure that bejing expects hong kong to fix the economy when the house of cards they've built collapses
 
The Honkies are not fighting very actively for their democracy IMO
I don't think Beijing is afraid the slightest
 
it's not, they can squash it with a flick of the army
no they might even let them 'win' just for appearances
to me looking in it almost looks like they are manipulating it so that they can come in on the side of the people and play savior
 
Both countries hate each other anyway.
 
1:37 AM
"what, we never told you that there couldn't be universal sufferage with open candidacy"
I've never quite understood that whole dynamic
the whole ROC, PRC, HK, Macau dynamic
 
FFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCKKKKKK
 
2:09 AM
RIP jefff
 
2:23 AM
I have to.
@BartekBanachewicz
 
2:46 AM
@Jefffrey You didn't use three "f"s, I am disappointed.
 
 
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5:37 AM
Morning.
 
Dear god I'm home early/late enough to see Feeds
 
> Always use SSL. No exceptions.
lel
 
lol Mozilla support page just made me fill up a survey form with one question: how am I satisfied with Firefox. It also got my email address.
 
There's a shitstorm about to kick off on meta about women's rights in tech
Just to warn you
 
5:47 AM
'r' < 'G'
false
I was not prepared for this
 
I made the mistake a few days ago of suggesting that starting a question asking how women are treated on SE — with no specific complaint, justification, context, rationale — might serve only to draw attention to the idea that women are somehow "different" or whatever
I was really well-behaved and logical and all that
You wouldn't believe how well-behaved and polite I was
Regardless, I'm already "demeaning" lol
 
We are different.
 
woman in tech is a touchy subject m8
 
I posted like five sensible comments and deleted all of them in turn, realising that there is no fucking chance of a serious conversation here
 
you should know this just by the shitposts that go on here
 
5:49 AM
If you are a man, you have no chance of actually stating an opinion
not a sexist opinion in the slightest
but if you a man it does not seem to matter
it SO pisses me off
 
If you think that as a man, stating your opinion is a privilege, then you might want to double check them, mate.
 
check your bloody privilege, women. seriously.
 
Your sexist attitude is tiring.
 
nn
 
5:50 AM
uu
 
why is 'r' < 'G' returning false.
 
because you're a sexist
 
I wanna comprehend this JS behaviour cause it's boggling me
 
yeah you thought I was gone you were wrong
 
Upper case characters have a lower ascii code than lower case, no?
Or is it the other way around
 
5:51 AM
cICADA
 
@Cicada Yes.
 
Then that's why
 
is it
I always thought it was the other way around
 
every letter has a higher ASCII code than the multi-character literal 'Cicada', because Cicada goes lower than anybody else could
 
@Rapptz Sorting m8.
 
5:52 AM
I made the mistake today of making a FF plugin
I can safely say I will never go down this path again
 
Up key edit got me again.
I hope the new MS browser will support extensions in .NET.
 
It's lexicographic order, it doesn't care about the case
 
thecoshman writes in dislexicographic order
 
JS doesn't have a character type
 
I know it doesn't
 
5:55 AM
JS doesn't have a character
 
JS doesn't have character
> Two gunmen have been shot dead after they opened fire outside a conference on cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad in a suburb of Dallas, US police say.
>
> A security guard was also injured. Police sealed off the Curtis Culwell Center in Garland and evacuated participants.
>
> The gunmen's car is being searched for a possible bomb, police added.
Good job on freedom, morons
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Damn article.
 
@MarkGarcia inorite
;)
 
@Rapptz man ascii, I don’t have the time to remember all that shit
 
Oh god this is terrible
I grow more and more ashamed of the BBC every week
 
6:12 AM
Anyway back to work with this terrible javascript toolchain
 
32 messages deleted
 
Censorship?
 
if you wanna put it that way
 
CENSORSHIP
 
I love how "Big Black Cock" wasn't included. :P
 
6:15 AM
My guess is it didn't fit
 
7 messages deleted
 
Bad Bolt Clock
 
Even the censoring tool has shitty UX
 
@Cicada oh you...
 
Can you also delete the last few messages by LRIO? Say the last few thousands or so.
 
6:16 AM
I give up
But hey Lounge is always a fun room to experiment on
Just like those few times when we iced the room
 
I'd argue it's the only fun room
 
exactly
 
Hey guise a mod said we're fun
 
Time to move to IRC
 
Do we have a channel somewhere btw?
 
6:29 AM
Nope, not that it's much effort to make one
 
💬
Cremoved)
Only if I could hack the chat from iphone
🌜💃🏻🌛
 
do you get banned much Cat?
 
Cat's never been banned coz that needs effort
 
@JohanLarsson Never
 
6:35 AM
@BoltClock Do you have access to the number of times / cumulative minutes I got suspended?
 
@Cicada We do
 
I was actually asking for the numbers
 
@CatPlusPlus so why do mods have to come here and remove your messages? Was it close?
 
@JohanLarsson Because mods have nothing better to do
 
@BoltClock Is it secret?
post a dump of the regs here if it is not too much work
 
6:38 AM
@JohanLarsson Not visible to anyone else, but if you ask
 
I want to know by how much I outperform LRiO and Pappy at getting banned
 
I have a feeling rightfold is high on the list
 
But naturally because this is chat, the information is incomplete. For whatever stupid reason it only says how long you were out the last couple of bans
Gotta love chat
 
Thanks balpha
 
@Cicada Congratulations you are neck and neck with LRiO
 
6:40 AM
Is that since the beginning of the room? Or over the past few months.
Because I don't get banned as much now
 
Past year
 
Meh
Back in my days I would get banned every week or so.
I'm getting old. And less politically incorrect. This is terrible.
 
Hello
 
I'd say you're doing fine. Look at how much I censored!
 
@JohanLarsson Crossfire
Collateral damage
 
6:46 AM
was it funny? I always try to read your messages :)
 
Do you ever succeed
 
dunno the %
 
@thecoshman yes
@Ell Gdańsk
 
7:03 AM
@BoltClock did cicada get banned more than me in terms of total number of minutes?
 
what did I miss?
 
Nothing
 
Someone has LRiO plonked
 
@Cicada not news
so, what was the fight about this time
 
7:08 AM
There was no fight. Only victory.
 
I made #loungecpp on freenode (again I think) btw, nobody will use it but whatever
 
why not slack?
 
It requires invite dances and also paid for some things
So whatever
 
why not SO chat?
 
@CatPlusPlus on what
can you reply to message on IRC already
 
7:16 AM
Can you not edit audit messages on sochat already
 
user1804599
hello morning
 
@CatPlusPlus amazing non-feature
 
Just like the one you mentioned :woah:
 
user1804599
@JohanLarsson I think I get banned the most.
 
user1804599
But I luckily have backups.
 
Ven
7:28 AM
well met, lounge
wow, people died this morning
 
user1804599
why would you sort emails by subject
 
user1804599
why can you sort by anything other than date
 
user1804599
@Ven people die every morning.
 
Ven
@rightfold nice
@BartekBanachewicz same question
 
user1804599
@BartekBanachewicz the one and only rightfold
 
Ven
7:32 AM
@rightfold you'd think there's only one
 
@rightfold nooo
 
Xeo
mornin
 
Ven
\o
 
so, a policeman shot a football "fan" in Poland recently
 
Ven
one less football fan.
 
7:44 AM
he got shot in the neck
 
@BartekBanachewicz goaaaaaaaaaaal
 
on one hand, he was a rioter who got on the field with the pack of other idiots
 
@BartekBanachewicz Did he actually do anything shot-worthy?
 
on the other, the police wasn't authorized to shoot higher than waistline with this type of weapon
@wilx yes. but see above.
 
There's no such thing as deadly-shot-in-the-neck-worthy if the dude is not armed (and even then...)
 
7:46 AM
@BartekBanachewicz They fired shots into a riot on the field?
 
@Cicada lol
 
Communism is back hide yo wives
 
@BartekBanachewicz where they actual bullets, or the rubber ball kind of thing?
 
Wait, he got shot in Poland or in the neck? Conflicting info.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes.
@StackedCrooked rubbers
 
7:48 AM
That's inexcusable.
 
I'm trying to form my opinion here and I think the shot was at least wrong in that it was too high
he was running away after first 2-3 warning shots
 
What does the referee say
 
@BartekBanachewicz ok
 
nsfw, 0:17, right side of the video
 
@BartekBanachewicz There is no other opinion.
 
7:49 AM
That's it?
That's what passes as a riot in Poland?
 
That is football hooliganism. Poland should be used to that
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes they shouldn't be on the field.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
@BartekBanachewicz WTF
 
user1804599
Neither should your mother, but they don't shoot her either.
 
7:50 AM
Poland so neat and orderly.
 
yeah right
 
All I see is a bunch of people walking orderly at normal pace through the field.
 
Well, I think the dude got what was coming, literally. If you go and riot, you should expect someone to fight back. OTOH, the police was probably not acting the best they could and following all the rules they should. OTOOH, I guess you have no time to deliberate in those situations.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Does not look very dead to me
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the group on the right was a group of fans of another team. They were trying to pick up a fight with them
 
7:50 AM
Opening fire on them seems waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over the top.
@BartekBanachewicz So the police stood on the sidelines and opened fire.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes BUT THEY ARE STEPPING ON THAT FRESHLY MOWEN GRASS
 
@wilx That wasn't a riot
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes They stopped the match (multiple times) because they threw stuff on the field. After it was ceased they stormed in.
 
@Cicada Yeah. Correct is correct.
 
lol we were on a stadium on Saturday because beer festival was there, and there's a sign that says 2k penalty for entering on the grass
 
7:51 AM
@BartekBanachewicz "stormed in"
 
It's a v expensive grass
 
Stormed in orderly at regular pace.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes As noted before, they were clearly trying to pick up a fight with the other team. That's, sadly, quite common here.
 
@BartekBanachewicz So the police preemptively picked a fight with them.
Good job.
 
Police tried to split the groups up to disallow the fight
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah.
 
7:52 AM
Branch prediction, police style.
 
How the fuck is that justified?
@BartekBanachewicz They clearly tried to split them while standing by the sidelines with their firearms.
 
@BartekBanachewicz So where is that guy I can't see it
 
@CatPlusPlus to the far right of the video, gray hoodie
 
You can see the blood
 
@CatPlusPlus he's dead
 
7:54 AM
there's two of them there, but the one loses his step for a sec when the shots are fired and runs back bleeding
 
Rest In Poland
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@R.MartinhoFernandes there's something in the law that allows them to shoot to calm people down. They were clearly aggressive, shouting and provoking the other team.
 
"Clearly aggressive"?
 
I honestly hate these football rowdies.
 
7:55 AM
I'm shocked we have laws about shooting calm people
 
You need to show us the video you are watching.
 
It was a 37mm smoothbore rubber round.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes surely they'll receive proper punishment...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes There are reports stating that it was far from a calm event
 
@BartekBanachewicz The video shows nothing of the like, though.
 
7:57 AM
Can't you see how pissed the grass is
 
There's one guy running across the field, yeah, but shooting him for that seems like a gross overreaction.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It is common that the two opposing rowdies teams even communicate a time and place of battle where they go and fight. Completely retarded shit. The dudes on the video were clearly going to fight with the other group. I am not saying the police should have used the shots but the intention to fight is there.
 
"clearly going to fight"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's not like they were trying to hide they want to pick up a fight
 
@BartekBanachewicz Take a look at English, Turkish, Dutch football fans. This is nothing compared to them. Yet, nobody gets shut(by the police) there(even in Turkey).
 
7:59 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes shooting at him directly certainly was. Esp. that they all turned around after the warning shots were fired.
 
Ven
@R.MartinhoFernandes you mean a grass overreaction
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's why you can see them wielding all sorts of weapons, and doing all sorts of provocative things like walking on the grass.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes. Can you offer a different plausible explanation of why they were crossing the play field?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes they make them leave the weapons outside
 

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