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7:00 PM
@Xeo flawless as always :D
 
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@Puppy wrong.
 
user1804599
It's always racist to do any harm to non-white people if you are white.
 
user1804599
This is a well-known and universally accepted fact.
 
@rightfold It's racist if you do harm because they have a different race than you.
 
Xeo
Etienne doesn't have his troll radar out
 
user1804599
7:01 PM
 
Apr 22 at 19:46, by Etienne de Martel
@sehe I find it funnier to take everything rightfold says seriously.
 
Also, if you ironically are an asshole, you're still an asshole.
 
huh... I just realised... why the hell are we still using 'massive' 3.5mm audio jacks? If people seemed willing to accept cutting up sim cards for trivially smaller phones... why not slim down to small audio jacks?
 
@thecoshman seems at least reasonable given the data: well-being.esdc.gc.ca/misme-iowb/auto/diagramme-chart/stg2/…
 
user1804599
7:04 PM
@thecoshman Because everybody has devices that support only 3.5mm jacks.
 
@thecoshman there are 2.5mm connectors, too
 
Xeo
@thecoshman They'll break even easier!
also, 2.5, yeah.
 
user1804599
Unless you provide adapters for free, it will be an adoption catastrophe. (Hey that rhymes!)
 
@rightfold if only there some way of adapting untill it becomes the norm...
@melak47 I've yet to see a phone with 2.5 jacks... I had a crappy mp3 player that did
 
user1804599
jack off
 
7:05 PM
@thecoshman Look, we have a standard that works. Don't overcomplicate things.
 
user1804599
imagine being jacked off by a pumpjack
 
user1804599
that should hurt a lot
 
Ell
you'd die
 
3.5 mm jacks are for audio, USBs are for charging, bluetooth is for data transmission.
 
@Xeo lol, just thought you could have plugs like that magnetically attached power thing :P
@EtiennedeMartel too big, not enough power (POWEEERR!!!) and crap.
 
7:06 PM
@thecoshman Purrformance.
 
Ell
@thecoshman that is ridiculous :L
 
Xeo
@thecoshman wrong link?
 
I like the name change that happens on marriage
if I get married I want to choose the most awesome name of the two
 
@Xeo oh my, that could have been far worse :P
 
7:09 PM
@thecoshman lemme try to reproduce it
 
@MarcoA. make a prediction, that way it's science!
 
@thecoshman My old Nokia E51 had one. Wasn't fond of it (the 2.5mm socket), because all the headphones have 3.5mm connectors.
 
@thecoshman I'll barf to death. Now for the scientific experiment..
 
@thecoshman welp, consider me today at work
changed PC, logged in on Chrome with my home account out of mistake
synced browsing history
typed in "fa" + enter to go to facebook
 
Which required use of unwieldy 3.5mm to 2.5mm converters.
 
7:11 PM
went instead to a romanian porn site
closed it in approximately 0.5 seconds once I saw it
such is the way of cloud sync
 
Ell
how about just fb then enter
that's what I do
 
@milleniumbug yeah, but if a big brand phone (ie, Iphone) did it, it would be the norm in months
 
@Ell fb.com?
it works
lmao
how much did facebook pay for that domain
 
Ell
I didn't even know that existed
I just have fb as a keyword for facebook.com :P
 
@thecoshman just have both :p
 
7:13 PM
I don't think keywords exist in browser history autocomplete
 
@thecoshman Also I hate these smaller-than-mini-SIMs. C'mon, mini-SIM was a standard for like 12 years.
The nano-SIM is extra bullshit.
OH MY GOD WE GOT LIKE 10 mm^2 OF EXTRA SPACE!! PUT MORE COREZZZ IN HERE!
 
what's the problem with full size sim cards, phones are getting bigger and bigger anyway :p
 
@melak47 ... sort of negates the advantage of the slimmer socket...
 
@thecoshman "Brit Lab", which proceeds to talk about being drunk.
 
> Intel® processor with support for Intel® VT-x, Intel® EM64T (Intel® 64), and Execute Disable (XD) Bit functionality
> Execute Disable (XD)
 
7:16 PM
@melak47 Yeah, nowadays the phones are so big they fit the Full size SIMs (the credit card size). It's like as if we're regressing.
 
@EtiennedeMartel vOv close to hart
 
ex fucking dee
 
@thecoshman what advantage
 
@melak47 thinner phones...
 
@melak47 Not being able to pull it out ever
2
Wait
 
7:16 PM
@thecoshman Ya know, life in the British Isles must be shit if you guys are always drunk.
 
@thecoshman ??? the sim cards are smaller, but not thinner
 
If power goes out one more time today I'm gonna snap
 
anyone with a (recent version of) msvc that could try to compile a snippet for me?
 
@melak47 go back to sleep
@EtiennedeMartel life is shit
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Does MSVC2013 qualify as recent?
 
7:17 PM
@thecoshman Life is pretty good here.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Literally nobody, ever.
 
@milleniumbug if you're not on the bleeding edge, you're falling behind
 
@FilipRoséen-refp webcompiler.cloudapp.net
 
@Puppy you are DeadMG, shut up.
 
@EtiennedeMartel no, just less shit
 
7:18 PM
@FilipRoséen-refp rextester.com/RFUZ87359
 
@MooingDuck it is working there, but I don't know how the compiler there relates to the compiler version people are actually using
 
They made a completely separate C++ compiler from scratch one weekend
 
@FilipRoséen-refp looks like 2015 RC
 
@FilipRoséen-refp That's Visual C++ 2015
 
@milleniumbug I don't know really, but let's try it; does the following compile?
 
7:19 PM
I wonder when they'll change this splash screen
 
@sbi I recall you mentioned you don't really like Lakos. I kinda see why :)
 
@AlexM. Never
 
also why hasn't the number of devices running java gone up or down in these past one hundred years they've been telling us that 3 billion devices run java
 
@milleniumbug it's a workaround for msvc related to the upcoming post, only tested through webcompiler.cloudapp.net - which I assume is the latest compiler available (?)
 
Because nobody maintains these installers, they're just built from the same source over and over again
 
7:21 PM
@AlexM. it's the same 3 billion devices in oracle's basement as last time you installed java
 
lol
 
@milleniumbug it needs to support c++14 btw, doesn't sound like MSVC2013 qualifies :-/
 
@FilipRoséen-refp It doesn't know about std::integer_sequence, I'll try pasting some reference implementation.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp recent but prerelease
 
what the fuuuuuck
android studio is a 900MB download
 
7:23 PM
@milleniumbug if it doesn't have support for c++14 other things will break further down the road, the example uses core features in c++14
 
what did they put in this the artwork from crysis
 
@AlexM. Is that a lot?
 
@AlexM. next generation bloatware
 
It's nothing
 
That's only a few minutes of downloading.
 
7:23 PM
Android SDK is probably more than half of that
Also it's bundled with JVM
 
@FilipRoséen-refp Oh, nevermind then.
 
I need a job, I'm switching to a more professional profile. Dunno about using my real name though. Hmm
 
@Nooble yeah, right
 
I went to eat some cheese
I didn't have any cheese.
fuck my life.
 
@khajvah 900MB?
 
7:24 PM
yes
 
@CatPlusPlus if it comes with preinstalled targets and that I understand
 
@StackedCrooked You have to meet him while he's drunk. :D
 
I made tortillas but garlic sauce turned out bit too garlicy
@AlexM. It's 1GB who cares
 
last time I made my SDK folder take up 7GB with just installed VMs for a bunch of android versions
 
Get better internet
It's like a minute download
 
7:24 PM
the internet is ok
 
@StackedCrooked I think the stories are that he wasn't quite sober around those CppCon days.
 
@khajvah That takes me about half a minute or so.
 
easy to say when you live in a developed country
 
Oh.
 
@Griwes Oh I see.
 
7:25 PM
I get 10MB/s
 
mbit or mb?
 
Get better country
 
the big MB
 
I just remembered that Eclipse is under 100MB or so
 
7:26 PM
mebibibis
 
Eclipse core is under 100MB
 
I haven't used Android Studio in years
 
Full IDE is a lot more
 
I get 2 mbits/s
 
@StackedCrooked But as I said, seeing John Lakos drunk is a "must have" experience, lol.
 
7:26 PM
I hope it's gotten awesome
 
Android Studio is not Eclipse
 
It ain't hard, though - pretty much visit a conference he's at, lol
 
And good riddance to that piece of shit
IM A TEXT EDITOR AND DONT KNOW HOW TO RENDER TEXT SEND HELP RESTART
 
@CatPlusPlus ... wraps with garlic sauce?
 
Yesss
 
7:28 PM
o_0
good lord
what's 'garlic sauce' anyway?
 
well
fuck it
 
What does it sound like
 
I require additional cheeselons
 
@CatPlusPlus too much garlic
it's not just mooshed up garlic is it?
 
@CatPlusPlus I've seen worse
cough xcode cough
 
7:29 PM
With sour cream, mayo and some spices
 
what's xcode?
 
the IDE on macs
 
@CatPlusPlus oooh, garlic mayo
so... cat dinner is a wrap with garlic mayo...
 
sexcode
3
 
And chicken and tomato and peppers and lettuce
 
7:32 PM
@CatPlusPlus oh now, there we go, a snack at last
christ, I was thinking you crazy(ier than normal)
 
Xeo
@thecoshman There is never "too much garlic".
 
Boom. I'm a real boy now.
 
@Xeo would eat a wrap with just garlic mush on it?
 
@TBohne did you just lose your virginity?
 
@TBohne Coin Gratis
 
Xeo
7:34 PM
No, he's just not a doll anymore, with a nose that grows when he lies.
 
@khajvah is that the spanish version?
 
if anyone mind proof-reading looking at the article (How to implement a stateful meta-container in C++) before it goes public, it's available here - user: batch, pasw: tester. I'm not sure if it is entirely ready, so any input on the contents would be much appreciated! /cc @Xeo @AlexM. @Ven
 
Interesting. The wife and I had professional photos done, and the instructions on the CD with the pictures says it requires an Intel Pentium II 450MHz or faster processor.
 
Just once, I'd like to hit that "on the edge of being 'drunk'" point and not think "I've come this far, be a shame to waste that effort"
MORE BLACK RUSSIAN!
 
Did someone just say "too much garlic"?
 
7:37 PM
did not know that photos had minimum CPU requirements
 
lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I DID!
 
Ven
@FilipRoséen-refp thanks, will read :-)
 
Dafuq's wrong with you.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes He's a commie.
 
7:38 PM
boy, one does not just eat pure garlic
 
@FilipRoséen-refp gonna take a look for sure :D thx
 
I like garlicy food, but not pure garlic
 
@Ven let me know what you think!
@AlexM. thanks man!
 
Ven
@FilipRoséen-refp well, with my limited c++ knowledge. thanks anyway
 
user3047181
I'm starting my first c++ job on monday, what last minute cramming can I do this weekend to blow my manager away?
 
7:40 PM
Garlic is nice
 
@Xeo TIL that Pinocchio was not a kind of Italian cured ham.
 
@MeltyButter Actually learn C++
 
@FilipRoséen-refp in my experience, you write smart stuff, but present it in a way I can't handle.
 
user3047181
@Jefffrey it's a really big topic though... where do I start?
 
@Jefffrey good thing he's starting early :D
 
7:41 PM
@thecoshman hmm, what do you think I'm doing wrong?
 
@MeltyButter Are you Australian?
 
@MeltyButter Dont
 
@MeltyButter lesson one, you manager does not care about C++
 
@FilipRoséen-refp C++
 
Xeo
How the fuck did you get a C++ job without knowing C++. Wtf.
 
7:41 PM
4270
Q: The Definitive C++ Book Guide and List

grepsedawkThis question attempts to collect the few pearls among the dozens of bad C++ books that are published every year. Unlike many other programming languages, which are often picked up on the go from tutorials found on the Internet, few are able to quickly pick up C++ without studying a well-written...

 
Suspect Telkitty troll...
 
@MeltyButter lol
 
@Xeo I did that too
 
@MeltyButter Don't bother.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp can't really say what it is, it might be more the formatting and what not. I don't think it's the content.
 
7:42 PM
the interview was a collection of pointer arithmetic questions :\
only learned C++ into the job
through here
 
user3047181
books sort of make my head hurt though... Any kind of checklist of top 10 things you need to know about anywhere?
3
 
lol, pointer arithmetic...
 
ahahahaha
 
1. rip
 
Jun 25 '14 at 12:03, by R. Martinho Fernandes
Guys, I applied for a neurosurgeon position and I have eight days to learn what a scalpel is.
 
user3047181
7:43 PM
@MartinJames nope, Irish :P
 
@MeltyButter You're dumb and so's your manager
 
@thecoshman does the formatting make it hard to read, or maybe easy to lose focus? :-/
 
@MartinJames it was basically 80% C, 20% some questions like "what collection would you use to map <something> to <something else>?"
 
2. Interview for a Java job.
 
@MeltyButter 1) don't go here and ask about C++ 2) vOv
 
7:43 PM
3. Get a PHP job
 
4.RIP in peace
 
@MeltyButter you can't learn much programming in that timespan to be very helpful. Learn their company and their products.
 
should probably stock up on painkillers and/or alcohol
 
user3047181
@MartinJames java makes me feel queasy, amirite???
 
@FilipRoséen-refp to be fair, I am terrible at pooring reasonable sized drinks :\
 
7:44 PM
4. Find out it's actually JavaScript.
 
chin chin!
 
4. ...wrapped in TypeScript
 
user3047181
no, but seriously, I know a little c++, i just need to know what it's like to work with it in a professional environment?
 
4. jeff can't count
 
5. Find a tall building with hard concrete surrounding.
 
7:44 PM
@thecoshman are you saying that I'm drunk, or that the contents is so poorly formatted that you think it's about pooring drinks? ;)
 
@CatPlusPlus 4. It's the continuation of the fourth point.
 
user3047181
6. i actually think C++ is kinda fun? why all the hate?
 
Xeo
4.5 Get told to work on the legacy Fortran tool thing
 
ow, just shivered and nearly dislocated my arm (slight exac... exagur... slightly over state, but it hurt, a bit)
 
@MeltyButter We've all used it.
 
7:45 PM
10. Realise you'd rather write legacy Fortran than modern C++
 
@MeltyButter it is far from fun
 
@MeltyButter I think it's fun to see the acrobats at the circus, that does not mean that I can become one of them.
 
Xeo
@MeltyButter You don't go into a professional environment with focus on a thing without knowing that thing. That's just irresponsible.
 
@FilipRoséen-refp I am taking full responsibility for my inability to read.
 
@MeltyButter manager assigns you bugs in the bug tracker, you check out code from the repository, build the code, reproduce the issue, fix the issue, confirm the fix, review your changes, check in changes, mark bug as fixed.
 
7:46 PM
So I put a lambda in a lambda.
 
@TBohne that's a good day.
 
"mark bug as fixed" is optimistic
 
Xeo
No dawg jokes.
 
@MeltyButter If you think any language is fun, you haven't studied it enough yet.
 
Overly optimistic
 
Xeo
7:46 PM
@Jefffrey Python is fun :<
 
you know notepad++ is not that bad
 
@MeltyButter seriously, not trying to act like you know more than you do. People can smell bullshit from a mile away. You will gain more respect from admitting you don't know something than from claiming you do.
 
I've had enough of Python
 
@CatPlusPlus Well, you do it from someone else's account, just in case.
 
@Xeo I rest my case.
 
7:46 PM
@FilipRoséen-refp nobody said "day" :D
 
:P
 
@CatPlusPlus "mark as ready for QA"
 
"Mark as ready to drink"
 
user3047181
jeez louise... This isn't doing much for my confidence
 
@EtiennedeMartel used a lambda from a lambda... or as bizarre as it sounds?
 
7:47 PM
"I've fixed bug #29377, AMA"
 
Fuck dynamic typing
 
Xeo
*tried vainly to
 
@MeltyButter hint: programming is not trivial
 
Xeo
*and am now drinking myself to sleep
 
@CatPlusPlus s/ dynamic typing/
 
7:47 PM
@CatPlusPlus You finally came around
 
@Xeo YER A PROGRAMMER NOW
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Python's actually the only language I kinda tolerate with that
 
Why are so many Loungers drunk when I am not?
 
Xeo
I'm not drunk.
 
Try working on a large project with 8 other people
 
Xeo
7:48 PM
I was just correcting Jeffrey's message
 
@MartinJames wrong question
 
user3047181
i should mention it's actually an internship, they said I don't really need to be a c++ expert
 
@MartinJames I ain't
 
@CatPlusPlus working with others is a PITA no matter what
 
@thecoshman Yeah, I know. I'll work on it later.
 
7:48 PM
I could use a beer but I only have gin and I don't feel like drinking it today
 
@MeltyButter Then it's fine. You are going to be fine.
 
@MeltyButter then embrace the licence to not know and learn
 
gin is amazing
 
@MeltyButter "not an expert" != "what's C++" :p
 
@MeltyButter That's a given.
 
7:49 PM
@MartinJames vOv it's past work
 
@thecoshman OK, I think I've got some vodka left.
 
user3047181
@melak47 yeahhh but sometimes I see c++ github repos and think... What the fuck language is this? you know what I mean?
 
@MeltyButter And get ready to read a lot of books.
 
@MartinJames what brand?
scrap that
 
@MeltyButter Stay out of rightfold's repos!
2
 
7:50 PM
I fogot @MartinJames is a "cheap as chips" booze sort of guy, he has no class
 
@thecoshman @MartinJames what brand?
 
@thecoshman Here's an approximation of project quality over time
 
@thecoshman One of those with alcohol in it.
 
@MeltyButter Define "little".
 
@Jefffrey did I mention non sober?
 
7:51 PM
@thecoshman No class? I have 2 instances of the vodka class.
 
Vodka is crap anyway
 
@Nooble "C with classes"
 
what with my vast experience of trying vodka, Absolute > smirnoff > shop brand
 
user3047181
@Nooble I've made an A* thing and a boids thing, that's about it :/
 
@CatPlusPlus That's a sketch of your dick. Life-size on screen.
 
7:52 PM
@Jefffrey + string+vector
 
@thecoshman Vodka is made by cutting ethanol with water.
 
@CatPlusPlus you mix it with stuff
 
You don't need a "brand".
It's all the same.
 
You can mix better stuff with stuff
 
user1804599
@khajvah Yeah.
 
7:52 PM
@khajvah nah, string and vectors are slow, use char* and new T[N] for maximum efficiency
 
Vodka production budget is 90% marketing and 10% R&D.
 
user1804599
Adding a GIN index to a column sped up queries by a factor of ten.
 
Oh shit - one instance. The other is derived from Bacardi:(
 
@EtiennedeMartel you say that, smirnoff taste like skank, absolute is drinkable
 
Nah vodka drinks are fine, but then the quality of vodka itself hardly matters
 
7:53 PM
@rightfold ikr
 
@thecoshman Absolute tastes like skank as well.
 
imo, if you are mixing things, start with things you can tolerate on it's own
 
user3047181
what does skank taste like
 
Also, vodka is a drink base. Nothing more.
 
@EtiennedeMartel yeah, but a classy skank that you wouldn't be ashamed of being seen with, once.
@MeltyButter smirnoff
 
7:53 PM
Absolut has flavoured vodkas
 
@MeltyButter you'll probably be fine. I mean, your employer's codebase is going to be really nice! right...?
 
oh I got so fucked up from smirnoff once
 
I remember tasting Absolut Tangerine. It was hideous. I almost puked right there.
 
I have my chilli vodka still. I could have a few drops of that.
 
ok, twice
 
oh that's better, volume up!
 
I felt like I was at my 12th shot instead of my first.
 
wait, I saw those red lines
 
user3047181
@melak47 i was wondering about that, it's one of the 'big 4' so I was hoping it'd all be beautiful...
 
@EtiennedeMartel lol
 
7:55 PM
0_- <--- my face when trying to not type as much as I've drunk
 
@EtiennedeMartel meh 12th one feels like water already
 
Recently I drank more tequilla than vodka
 
@khajvah I meant the feeling in my throat.
 
its horrible
 
user1804599
Cat what do you think of Idle?
 
user1804599
7:55 PM
as in the Python IDE
 
me and the misses went to one of those 'vodka bar', where they have all these flavours, not that strong, but a lot of choice, we tried them all :\
 
user3047181
does anyone actually prefer spirits, or are they just trying to save calories?
 
I remember tasting aged tequila. It was surprisingly good.
 
@CatPlusPlus tequillla is good stuff
 
@MeltyButter wat?
 
7:56 PM
@MeltyButter I've run out of beer.
 
say, can we move to somewhere I can just use words and not try fail at typing?
 
And then I realized that tequila doesn't have to be this cheap mexican vodkoïd that you ingest with lemon and salt.
 
user3047181
200 mils of vodka is less than 4 beers...
 
lovely, android studio's own template fails to build
 
7:56 PM
@MeltyButter I like spirits, they are different to beer
 
4 beers is more than 200ml of vodka
 
@EtiennedeMartel Eh? What does it have to be, then?
 
Xeo
@AlexM. Dude, where'd you get the timemachine?
 
@MartinJames It's good if you pick something that doesn't look like water.
 
Mostly because it's like 2 fucking litres
 
7:57 PM
@Xeo I need to develop an android app for college
 
@EtiennedeMartel I still don't get that lime and salt thing
or do you guys do it with lemon over there?
 
Yeah, with lemon usually.
 
user3047181
eehhh about 250 then, I dunno. They taste nasty though. i find it hard to believe dudes can just drink voka and think, 'yummmm;
 
Limes taste like ass raw
Vodka doesn't taste
 
@EtiennedeMartel TIL Quebec is one messed up place
 
7:58 PM
It burns
We use lemons too
Limes go into rum
 
But seriously, if you're stuck with crap tequila, here's a tip. Take a shot of tequila, and immediately aftewards take a shot of tomato juice.
 
I like citrus fruit :\
 
Erases the taste of filth.
 
ITT, Cat fails to convert mL to L
 
I like eating lime and lemon without anything
 
7:58 PM
What
 
@EtiennedeMartel here's a tip, don't drink cheap crap
@CatPlusPlus 200 > 4
 
@thecoshman I just drink microbrews these days.
 
@EtiennedeMartel are you and bartek in a hipesteroff?
 
Ohwait.... I gotta check the shed....
 
@MartinJames ... is that a ... oh, ley me get google...
 

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