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1:00 PM
@rlemon the thing is there's a potential job with QNX but I have no idea about it and dunno how hard would it be for me to learn it
mm an hour and a half more
and I can head home
 
ever worked with a RTOS?
 
I made a two-day evaluation of an RTOS
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's a great story
 
anyways, neutrino shouldn't be hard to pick up. it at least has community documentation.
 
@AndyProwl Dunno, I count condescendingly telling people they are missing out as passive-aggressive ("you lost a lot", "you poor soul", etc).
 
1:02 PM
QNX4 is old. harder to find crap on, and no one alive who remembers how to use it :P
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz wat I don't have an attitude :P
 
back when qnx 4 was around you could download a free open source version for non commercial use
 
@Ell it was a joke
@Mr.kbok IKR!
even not knowing anything about chess I got totally sucked in that read
@rlemon not so much
 
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@Ell maybe a clean attitude, I'm not here to point at you, listen to my point of views ♥
 
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(song)
 
1:06 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Sounds cool. I suck at Chess.
 
@BartekBanachewicz So, you got an apology for the lack of interview ;) That's horrendous though. What are they smoking
 
@wilx that's a perfect opportunity to start playing go
 
@BartekBanachewicz I tried that, too. I suck at that as well. I am simply not smart enough.
I actually like Go a lot.
 
> not smart enough
:(
 
@sehe vOv. Wasn't that terrible for me; I finally found some time to fill up my gas tank and was at work at 8:40. So wasted at most half an hour really
 
@wilx We should play sometime
 
@Griwes actually it was the other way around. Most people suggest that 2-3 glasses a day is ok for men(even if you drink every day). But I can't find any statistical numbers though.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I know my limits.
 
@wilx beh how many go games have you approx played?
 
You never get smarter if you always stick to smart enough.
 
1:09 PM
@khajvah The other way around of what?
 
> Researchers (Bloom (1985), Bryan & Harter (1899), Hayes (1989), Simmon & Chase (1973)) have shown it takes about ten years to develop expertise in any of a wide variety of areas, including chess playing, music composition, telegraph operation, painting, piano playing, swimming, tennis, and research in neuropsychology and topology. The key is deliberative practice: not just doing it again and again, but challenging yourself with a task that is just beyond your current ability, trying it, analyzing your performance while and after doing it, and correcting any mistakes. Then repeat. And repe
 
@BartekBanachewicz Few against humans. A lot against computer on small boards.
 
I've played around 1500 games in my life so far I think. And I'm pretty terrible,
 
> The game begins with some conventional moves. Pawn to e4. Pawn to c5. Pawn to f4. Pawn to d5. Knight to f3. Pruess pauses when he sees this unusual move, the gauntlet landing at his feet
/cc @ScarletAmaranth
 
@LucDanton did you see the gif that he posted?
 
1:10 PM
@wilx Computers on small boards will only teach you how to dogfight.
it's useful and necessary, but doesn't scale.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It requires effort and time which I do not want to exert or have. I was learning Japanese for about 6 years but I was stagnating last 3, so I just gave up. :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz That's absurdly lot, compared to my... 15?
:D
 
@wilx That's fine. Just don't say you're not smart enough without "yet".
 
@khajvah Okay, but 'X glasses is ok' doesn’t run counter to 'one can be an alcoholic with habit X'.
 
@sehe yeah I know the gambit; you end up exchanging your queen for a bishop and a knight (and compromised f7 for black)
 
1:11 PM
@Griwes Well I could play over 50 games a day with my PC
 
@sehe but to be honest, I would never ever dare to play it (as white), ever; I am too weak for that :)
 
or when we sat down with a friend we played as many as 8-10 sometimes
 
@BartekBanachewicz btw., if you are into go, this might interest you: lsg.go.art.pl/page
 
@BartekBanachewicz The only person I played with left to the other side of the world today :(
 
I have bad memory, I think. I cannot evaluate many possibilities at the same time. It shows in my ability to program in assembler. I suck at it because I cannot hold in my head what each of the registers does contain and evaluate it with each instruction. It IMHO works similar in Chess and Go.
 
Ell
1:12 PM
is go that game they haven't made a good AI for yet?
 
@Griwes looks cool, but I doubt I'll have 3 free days, and a week seems unrealistic
@Ell yep
well, good.
A free bot can totally pwn me
 
@Ell There are AIs for Go. But they are not at the level of the masters, IIRC.
 
Every person I’ve taught go to swiftly beat me on the first game with them.
 
computers are very horrible at Go
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes but she'll be back right?
 
1:13 PM
Oh no! Am I a computer?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I will probably hit it for a few days; I'll try to remember to ping you when I know more about my plans for that time.
 
Who watched Hikaru no Go?
.o/
 
@BartekBanachewicz By the end of the year, I think.
 
@LucDanton ^^
 
@wilx I guess that can be trained, but I see what you mean - only up to a certain limit. I have similar difficulties and aging doesn't help either
 
1:14 PM
@wilx I think memory is also something you can practice :D
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it is irresponsible to scare people that drinking will cause alcoholism or make you look like shit.
 
Ell
M-m-my da-dad is a c-computerr
 
Often when I program I need a piece of paper for writing down the flow of thoughts that leads me to a certain design choice
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Sure. But effort. I'd rather have sex.
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@BartekBanachewicz Plus the place is really awesome.
 
1:14 PM
because I cannot keep the whole map just in my head
 
@khajvah Wait, why is that irresponsible? Is this a case of youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk?
 
it used to be better when I was younger
 
I guess I remember something
 
maybe it's the alcohol :D
 
@BartekBanachewicz :D
 
uh. I was just referencing the gauntlet reference :/
I don't know these things
 
@sehe the gauntlet is somewhat dusty :)
 
Time to implement a constexpr red-black tree.
 
Very
 
Ell
@wilx sex is effort too
 
1:16 PM
@BartekBanachewicz You always play on a 9x9?
 
Ell
@Columbo constexpr all the things
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes With a PC, yeah.
 
@Ell It is. But the end result is much more pleasurable for me than knowing Japanese or being good in Go/Chess. :)
 
I play on 13 with humans typically
 
Hence my effort is directed that way. :)
 
1:17 PM
> In the interest of here's the Boost-only solution:¹
lel
 
@wilx Yeah, I think we already established my below-average libido.
 
Xeo
@wilx Says who? Japanese are crazy with the sex stuffs!
 
@BartekBanachewicz I always found the 9x9 board incredibly claustrophobic.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Was I here when we did that? In any case, I am making a mental note and adding it to your profile. :)
 
@wilx Actually, you were :P
 
1:19 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes See how bad is my memory? :)
 
I'm so glad this production cloud is a completely separate org where I also can't upload anything and have to recreate the base image again
Fuckin
Soon I'll memorise all those goddamn useless livecd packages that need to be removed
 
I'd say "gear porn" but this might be viewed badly in this context
 
haven't you linked this one already?
 
this one photo or this one girl?
 
1:27 PM
I've certainly posted pictures of Gretchen before
 
I thought "gear porn" was for motorbikes
 
and cars.
 
I don't really like red lipstick. She pulls if well though.
 
but I have no new nice car or motorbike pics so there's a guitar and a nice guitarist
 
@AndyProwl or server room cabling or etc...
 
1:30 PM
@BartekBanachewicz right; that might be the one I saw
 
@StackedCrooked That's one awkward finger stretch
 
this is a 25.5" I think
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Ell
I know this is awfully sequenced and the timing & pitch is horrendous at the end but can anyone identify this song? onlinesequencer.net/103576
 
@BartekBanachewicz and more of them awkward finger stretches. So much unneeded tension
@Ell Land Of Hope Glory. (Famous from "Pomp & Circumstance" E. Elgar)
 
Ell
@sehe ahhh thats it thank you
 
1:32 PM
@sehe hmpfh. A violin has scale length of ~13". A guitar is almost double that. Go figure.
 
You think I don't play the guitar. Also, that's unrelated to the relative notion of "unneeded"
 
Well.
Adjective: unneeded (comparative more unneeded, superlative most unneeded)
  1. Not needed.
 
lol
That's kind of an unneeded wiki page.
 
Ell
I wish jerusalem was our national anthem
instead of God Save the Queen
 
1:36 PM
you mean the Sex Pistols song ^^?
 
@sehe That was not neded.
 
@Columbo s/not /un/
 
@Griwes s/un/not/ (Oh wait, that inserts an extraneous whitespace)
 
Ell
@ScarletAmaranth the hymn :P
 
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1:36 PM
Here we are now, entertain us
 
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: Most unneeded. Highly unnecessary. loungecpp.net/the-law/newbie-hints [c++] [c++11] [c++14] [c++-faq]
 
@DonLarynx <3
 
also Billy Sheehan's bass sound from that double pickup thingy is just amazing
a bit unrelated
 
lounge rocks everyday
 
1:40 PM
my favourite bird
 
is that a dodo
 
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Lucky enough, I was born in 13 September, the 256th day of the year, comemored as the programmers' day :D
 
nobody knows how to use a computer, except Loungers apparently
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
why are people so terrible at computers?
 
Ell
1:40 PM
Those birds are evil
 
that's a shoebill stork
 
Ell
I forgot what they are called but they attack everything I think
 
@ScarletAmaranth cannot unsee
 
Loungebird
 
it's COLOSSAL
it's a really big bird
 
1:41 PM
That's a starbait isn't it?
3
 
@ScarletAmaranth I first thought its a fucking canoe falling down a waterfall
 
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it's a doodle go
 
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god*
 
@AndreyErick commemorated* ?
 
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1:42 PM
yeah
 
Kreuzberg style.
 
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yes these glasses
 
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is*
 
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are*
 
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lol
 
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1:43 PM
oh it's a bike
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
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how the hell did it get there
 
bird in-scale
 
@AndreyErick Someone was really afraid of getting it stolen.
 
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that's beautiful
 
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1:43 PM
haha I guess
 
The shoebill (Balaeniceps rex) also known as whalehead or shoe-billed stork, is a very large stork-like bird. It derives its name from its massive shoe-shaped bill. Although it has a somewhat stork-like overall form and has previously been classified in the order Ciconiiformes, its true affiliations with other living birds is ambiguous. Some authorities now reclassify it with the Pelecaniformes. The adult is mainly grey while the juveniles are browner. It lives in tropical east Africa in large swamps from Sudan to Zambia. == Taxonomy and systematics == The shoebill was only classified in the 19th...
stork? STORK??
 
Ell
 
^ - my favorite
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes art! :D
 
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1:46 PM
that bird is OP
 
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Xeo
You can hear the mad cackling.
 
@ScarletAmaranth daayumn. totally a raptor in its past life
 
@Prismatic yup; it's wonderful
 
@Xeo mmmuuihihihiahahhahaa
that's the best textual impression I can do
 
1:48 PM
Not entirely the same though :Þ
 
hi
 
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@paul23 hello
 
Seems like the python crowd hates me :P
 
@LucDanton Wait, what.
 
Let's ee how long I can last here
 
1:49 PM
How is the car unharmed?
'Shopped.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes It’s a piece of art which purpose is to entice that exact reaction ;) makes life a little bit surrealer when you first walk into it
Seeing as the building is a drab car park it’s a very welcome distraction
 
yeah they first rammed the car in and then they photoshopped the car to look undamaged ™
 
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@paul23 what programming languages do you use?
 
None
 
WTF, new tenant is asking if they can move in tomorrow. Seriously, fuck off, I'm staying until the end of the month.
Apparently he has even already booked transport.
 
1:53 PM
@AndreyErick looks photoshopped
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh you're moving?
because of the flatmate leaving?
 
@BartekBanachewicz More like turning homeless, but yeah.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's literally none of your concern
 
I dable in python, C++, using JAVA, ADA and C# every now and then. Oh and sometimes VHDL too when writing a robot.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes woah dude you knew about this earlier. Haven't found new place yet?
 
1:54 PM
@BartekBanachewicz No, because I am moving.
 
@paul23 It is Java and Ada.
 
@ScarletAmaranth Google is in on it, too!
 
@BartekBanachewicz It's ok, I have friendly couches.
 
I need to stop choose horror for bedtime readings
but for some reasons it doesn't really deter me from falling asleep much
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes can they host your 6-screen setup? Seriously though that situation is the kind that scares me. Why wouldn't you plan ahead for that? o.O
 
1:55 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I have friendly basements too.
 
my move took around a month vOv
@R.MartinhoFernandes it's still pretty cold and that seeps into basements.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I read it as friendly touches; confusion ensued
 
@LucDanton Damn, I forgot how amazing street view is.
 
@wilx -.- My last rant on people focussing on spelling errors got me kicked thrice at pthyon...
 
@BartekBanachewicz Because not planning ahead is part of my identity, I guess.
 
1:55 PM
yeah street view is really high quality
 
do you have a lot of stuff to take with you apart from the workstation?
 
@chmod711telkitty Sweet dreams, may the Aliens (or wolfs, or predators, or sharks) haunt your dreams as they occasionally do haunt mine.
 
lol
Rust people want Egyptian brace style
 
@ScarletAmaranth hadn’t used it in a while, that was a surprise
 
@paul23 Well, spelling is important. And Ada is person's name.
 
1:56 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Books, screens, books, box, books, telescope, books, board games, books.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Eh well a flat is something you're going to be stuck in for quite a while. Leaving it to randomness, then having to move again because it's sucky? A huge nono for me.
 
@LucDanton same here
 
They will edit your question, because people might feel uneasy about your style.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Books are shitty when moving because they're really heavy
 
@wilx I know about ada lovelace. But really.....
 
1:56 PM
@rubenvb distro ships with a formatting tool
 
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@BartekBanachewicz Telescopes and screens are heavier.
 
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lol
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol for a second I really thought you meant "telescope"
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes No, it is irresponsible to scare people. Fear is the worst thing you can give to people. Don't scare them. Just tell them the truth.
 
1:57 PM
@LucDanton So?
 
@paul23 No buts. Really. Spelling is important, punctuation is important, capital letters are important.
 
Style is only... style, right?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Er, what do you mean? I really have a telescope.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes singular/plural :P
 
Once (actually 2-3 months ago) I was reading a slightly supernatural horror/thriller kind of detective novel before I went to bed. I was half way through it before I called it a night. I woke up in the middle of the night knowing who exactly the murderer was when I had go to the bathroom then. Wicked! Because detective novels usually give out clues during the whole process.
 
1:58 PM
@wilx So with me being dyslexic and when looking at woras I see letters just fly I am a wrose human?
 
@rubenvb I thought the compiler warned by default but after checking it does not. No idea if I imagined it or if it really used to do that.
 
@LucDanton oh lol that would be weird idd.
 
@rubenvb The argument works against you: if it is only style, then why do you care?
In Thebes, do as the Egyptians do!
 
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