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10:00 AM
I never understood that.
It's like they just glue random shit together.
 
@rightfold making puppies work is animal cruelty.
 
"Ok, we need a picture of a ruler to illustrate that article about Cameron's position on imperial vs metric"
Who the fuck thinks that?
 
@Puppy Welcome to working
 
"And let's not caption it 'Wooden ruler with imperial unit markings'"
 
it's OK though, I've been doing Important Stuff™ for two hours so now I'mma go take a break.
 
user1804599
10:02 AM
Just must do important stuff for at least 8 hours straight, and preferably more.
 
@CatPlusPlus he's new, he needs to adjust to this getting paid to slack
@R.MartinhoFernandes at least it wasn't a picture of some stereotypical medieval king
 
@rightfold lol
mad
 
important stuff? you mean, all those sudo installs?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes rumbled
 
user1804599
Why does $q have a method to create a rejected promise but not one to create a resolved promise. :v
 
10:14 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes next time the subject of imperial units comes up, please remember to point them towards this image.
 
Hi, does anyone know how I can declare a binary array?
 
The Alter Rhein (German for Old Rhine) is the old river bed of the Alpine Rhine in St. Gallen and Vorarlberg in the Rhine Valley, which was cut off when the Rhine was straightened during the 20th century. These cut-off arms have become valuable recreational areas and a nature reserve. In 1900, the short-cut at Fussach was completed, linking the natural course of the Rhine just upstream of Höchst and St. Margrethen directly to a new outflow into Lake Constance. The old river course downstream of this point, via Rheineck to Altenrhein on the shore of Lake Constance, became known as the Alter Rhein...
This is cool.
 
user1804599
@thecoshman I like this one.
5
 
@thecoshman Why?
 
user1804599
@Algorithmic What is a binary array?
 
10:15 AM
I have an unsigned long array like this:
unsigned long Put_Count_DetectorBitmap[STIMULI_INPUTS][STIMULI] = {{0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1},
{0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1},
{0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1},
{0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1}};
2
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes it explains it all so logically
 
But thats a lot of data so I'd rather declare it as a binary array
 
Yeah, it misses the point, though.
 
@rightfold that could easily smooth it using some furlongs
 
user1804599
What is a binary array?
 
10:16 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh... there's a point to all this?
 
Array which takes in binary numbers instead of unsigned long in my case?
 
@rightfold nice image, except it does make one mistake
@Algorithmic What is a "binary number"? Or, more to the point, what is not a "binary number" in this context?
 
@thecoshman People use units for more than unit conversions. Actually most of the time, that's not what they use them for.
 
sorry, I meant a number represented in binary format
 
user1804599
Look up the difference between value and representation.
 
10:17 AM
All numbers are represented in binary format.
You seem to be very confused about how numbers work in programming.
 
user1804599
This one is not: 2.
 
BTW why unsigned long for something that can apparently only be 0 or 1?
 
@thecoshman Don't get me wrong: I like the metric system. I just tend to play devil's advocate because many people seem to forget things that are as or more important than powers of ten.
 
he he he 311,040,000 twips in a league (now mock some sport)
 
Your best bet, if you really care about the storage size of this array, is to bitwise encode the values into larger numbers. However, it's highly unlikely that this is worth the computation trade-off.
 
10:18 AM
hmm...ok let me rephrase
 
user1804599
PIC ftw.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I just like being argumentative :(
 
why unsigned & why long, it is almost like you purposely want to waste more memory ...
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I was gonna post that, then I thought mebbe some API type issue..
 
If I'm particularly evil, I'll mention degrees and radians.
And then the dreaded gradians.
 
10:19 AM
@chmod711telkitty Unsigned does not waste memory..
 
user1804599
unsigned bool
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Don't do that, it makes my head spin.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes nothing better than gradians
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it does, when the program is saved, 'int' has only 3 characters ...
 
I gradiated several years ago
@chmod711telkitty just shut the fuck up
 
10:20 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes then move onto tau vs pi ?
 
It's all Greek to me.
 
This array declaration: int t[4] = {0,1,0,1}; wastes memory because it needs like 2 bytes to represent. It would be simpler to just represent this in binary format so it doesn't take more space than necessary
 
@MartinJames o-o actually, it's proto-roman
@LightnessRacesinOrbit no cause of death?
 
10:23 AM
?
 
@chmod711telkitty , sorry that was a typo
 
@Algorithmic you can edit messages.
 
oh. right. Sorry, will do that. Thanks @thecoshman
 
@Algorithmic you can also respond to specific messages. hint: wee arrow on right hand side
 
@Abyx the faggot was dead, you can not persecute a dead person
 
Xeo
10:25 AM
CONFIG::stuff
{
if (...)
{
}
else
} // CONFIG::stuff
if (...)
AS3 doesn't like that :<
 
@thecoshman Well, if the other person is particularly interested and interesting, I have a lot to talk about on such subjects. I avoid bringing it up, but if it does, I can go on an on.
 
@thecoshman oh hehehe. Didn't know...n00b alert! ^^
 
@thecoshman Sorry I'll make sure it's there in the next version of the article for you
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you have a lot to say on rather meaningless trivialities?
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you're a terrible reporter :P
 
@Abyx What's wrong with it? What's wrong with the deputy head of a school taking secret photos of boys in their school changing room and looking at them on his computer? Oh, nothing mate.
wankshaft russians
 
10:28 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ergh, you make me sick!
 
@thecoshman pfft
TOO MANY LAYERS
it's still morning dammit
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit FRY!!! for the love of hot dogs fry!
 
it is not like some guy killed a dozen women, has partiially eaten them and corpse was found in the fridge ...
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I mean binary representation. So can I declare an array like int array[2] = {0001, 0010} which is equivalent to array[2] = {1,2}?
 
10:29 AM
@Algorithmic 0010 is not equivalent to 2, no.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit o_0 what has onions layers? (I'm not a very smart man)
 
0010 is, in fact, equivalent to 8.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit uhm... but what exactly is wrong? being a faggot is not wrong, right? maybe it's wrong to be a maths teacher?
 
@Abyx You don't have any problem at all with the child pornography, secret recording of explicit images of people without their permission, and flagrant abuse of his position of responsibility over many young children?
 
@Abyx ... did you not pick up on the slight paedophile twang from that article?
 
10:30 AM
Oh so 0001 is 8 and 0010 is 4?
 
I just don't know much about those europes of yours so I'm asking
 
user1804599
@Algorithmic You can do int array[2] = {0b0001, 0b0010}.
 
@Algorithmic No, 0001 is 1 and 0010 is 8.
 
Xeo
@Algorithmic In octal, 10 is decimal 8
 
Numeric literals beginning 0 are octal literals.
@rightfold Is that C++11?
 
user1804599
10:31 AM
No, it's C++14.
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 14
 
user1804599
And C++everycompilerever, too.
 
@Xeo oh! Didn't know that
 
Turbo C++ 3.2?
 
10:32 AM
Thanks @LightnessRacesinOrbit
 
@Algorithmic this
 
@Algorithmic np
good lck
 
Thanks!
 
@chmod711telkitty wow that doesn't look confusing at all
 
Recently I've been thinking that sleeping policeman would be a good career move.
 
10:33 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I like the colour
 
> The images are believed to have been made from 2000 onwards, and "would appear to be of boys aged from nine to twelve," police said. Detectives have identified four children from the footage and have spoken to their parents.
ouch :/
 
user1804599
Should I eat garlic before going to the dentist?
 
(the article got expanded now)
@rightfold No.
@Abyx What the hell is wrong with you? Just fuck off please, you little shitstain.
 
@chmod711telkitty Thanks man
 
@Abyx ... because there's a big difference between the two...
 
10:34 AM
@Abyx lol
 
user1804599
Pedophilia is fine just like homosexuality is fine.
 
do you honestly not see the difference?
 
We want harsher sentences and mandatory minimums for maths teachers!
 
I think he's trying to troll, but he's taking it too far and without actually making it funny. Pros: 0 Cons: 1 = Bye bye
 
@rightfold acting on it however is a very different matter.
 
10:34 AM
what about an underaged faggot?
 
user1804599
Child abuse is not fine.
 
abyx has a problem with way too many things
 
What'd I miss
 
@MartinJames pfft
 
user1804599
@AlexM. If he says he loves faggots he probably goes to concentration camp.
 
10:35 AM
@Rapptz Oh just some casual child porn, the usual
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit as long as it's casual
 
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 59 minutes.
Wish it were more like 59 months
 
user1804599
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 59 minutes.
 
user1804599
top kek
 
@thecoshman of course
20 secs ago, by Lightness Races in Orbit
> This user has been automatically suspended for posting inappropriate content and cannot chat for 59 minutes.
repost
 
10:36 AM
@rightfold lol gulags
 
59 minutes? did they upper the ban time? I remember it used to be 29 minutes
 
@chmod711telkitty He was flagged out by two messages.
 
Also it's 30 minutes, not 29. But 30 minutes becomes a truncated 29 minutes very quickly.
 
ugh, the GCC version we use to compile for android won't let me pass const std::string&'s as filenames for std::if/ofstreams
I have to .c_str() it
 
10:37 AM
yeah, except it always runs down ... 30 would never be shown on a 30 minutes ban
 
@AlexM. That's normal C++03 behaviour
@chmod711telkitty I just said that.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit really?
 
@AlexM. Really.
 
it sounds weird, why would it not allow strings
 
@AlexM. Historical reasons, mostly. They fixed it in C++11.
 
10:39 AM
So @LightnessRacesinOrbit, how would I represent a 2D array like
unsigned long Put_Count_DetectorBitmap[STIMULI_INPUTS][STIMULI] = {{0,1,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1}, {0,0,1,1,1,1,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1}, {0,0,0,1,1,1,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1}, {0,0,0,0,1,1,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,1,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,0,1,0,1,0,1,0,1}};
in binary?
 
user1804599
lol
 
12
A: Why does (i|o)fstream take a const char* parameter for a file name?

Lightness Races in OrbitThe string part of the library was developed after streams, and nobody thought to make the obvious modifications. It's merely out of political and temporal reality that they never got around to this before shipping C++98, and nobody bothered bringing it up again because you could always solve it...

 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it's about SO
 
@sehe we've moved on
 
user1804599
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Yeah, it should take std::filesystem::path instead.
 
user1804599
10:40 AM
inb4 more overloads!
 
@rightfold inb4 all the tings
 
@rightfold yeah
 
last message posted by me in my class' Facebook group: "In case I don't make it to the lab where they choose the teams, please put me in a team with you, thanks bye."
sums up my overall college life
> nobody thought to make the obvious modifications
lol that cleared things up
thanks
 
user1804599
@AlexM. they probably say no.
 
but how can I say no to myself :O
nah, you see, I thought of that
and made a private deal with a colleague
I just don't want to end up in a default team with others who don't attend
I broke my sleep record last night
slept from 19:00 to 11:00; that's 16 hours
 
user1804599
10:53 AM
Did it make you poop?
 
wat?
 
@AlexM. Amateur
 
Designing webscale architecture is fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun
Not like there's 10000 things that can go wrong
 
hellooooo
 
user1804599
Just use MongoDB and Node.js.
 
10:56 AM
so predictable
 
lol mongodb
 
mongodb is webscale
 
@CatPlusPlus like trying to make it webscale
 
I need an AP database with MapReduce
 
11:00 AM
@CatPlusPlus What's AP
 
Availability/partition tolerance
 
user1804599
Associated Press
 
user1804599
Aerobic Penis
 
> Earth lost 50% of its wildlife in the past 40 years
Clearly mosquitoes couldn't have been part of those 50% WHY
 
it's ok, we have more humans
 
user1804599
11:07 AM
@Cicada and moths.
 
@Cicada That sounds sensationalised, to be honest.
Like there's undisclosed technicality.
 
Okay let's say 40%
 
Where did you get it from?
 
> This data was then, for the first time, used to create a representative “Living Planet Index” (LPI), reflecting the state of all 45,000 known vertebrates.
Mosquitoes not included.
 
11:10 AM
@Cicada Interesting, but not entirely trustworthy given that we are still finding new species and therefore cannot possibly construct a meaningful census of all wildlife on Earth.
 
well, most adaptive survive ... just look at the dinosaurs
 
It's basically a poor sample.
 
So, yeah, sensationalised.
Discounts invertebrates and plants, for example.
 
but it's cicada, so it's expected ...
 
@chmod711telkitty Surviving a nuclear winter has nothing to do with biological adaptation ability. No species can adapt to that within days. It was luck of already being sufficiently able to withstand the climate.
(of creatures that are not dinosaurs)
 
11:12 AM
Still scary, but far from the scariness of truly "50% of wildlife"
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Ofc it has, lol. This is a perfect example of selection
 
Meh - cooing fan has gone noisy. It's like 15 months since I replaced the fans:(
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit cockroach would, & if cockroach couldn't virus would ... besides it's also plenty to do with luck too. but then again, everything is something to do with luck ...
 
Catastrophic event suppress all specialized individuals
 
@MartinJames I replaced my fans with absense of them. Never broke down
 
11:13 AM
why did that get starred though
 
@sehe Good plan for my next box. For now, I've turned up the VLC volume.
 
@Cicada except for those species smart enough to evacuate or build radiation proof bunkers. Well. "smart"
 
@sehe We wouldn't survive
 
I've downloaded more fans.
 
on Facebook?
ba dum tschhh
 
11:16 AM
@Cicada Speak for yourself.
 
:D
 
@AlexM. :(
 
It's a world
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Robots don't count
 
well, it could be nuclear winter, it could be an asteroid. It could be a super virus or the sun dying. Who knows, roll the dice ...
 
11:17 AM
rolls 4
Looks like it'll be HIV
 
nuns would okay then?
 
No, some Finnish people would survive (part of their population is immune to HIV)
BLONDE PEOPLE EVERYWHERE
HITLER'S DREAM COME TRUE
 
Maybe earth would explode or something ...
creating it's own 'solar system' ...
burn baby burn ...
 
yeah that's totally physically possible
what next, potatoes become sentient
 
user3010322
@R.MartinhoFernandes Notice how the word can almost be split up into artist and anally. Just missing a single t in there.
 
11:22 AM
@Cicada No not really. If a meteor lands on your mate's head but not on yours, your survival is not because you are better adapted to meteor strikes.
 
@Cicada Most of Europe too has a part of their population with a genetic immunity to HIV.
 
Also selection vis a vis surviving the winter has nothing to do with adaptation.
Do not confuse adaptation for selection.
The latter creates the former but they are not the same thing
 
user1804599
@Puppy Europe master race!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit A nuclear winter is a global event and therefore implies selection. A meteor landing on my head is indeed not selection, it's genetic drift.
@LightnessRacesinOrbit BS alert
 
bah, the number of people who leave up room listings when they've been taken
 
11:24 AM
mutant roach ...
 
@Cicada Er. His distinction seems perfectly valid to me.
 
you have to be selected to survive before you can adapt
 
I think we can agree that a species can't change fast enough to survive such drastic changes in the environment.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, but he's "subtly" attempting to go off track to mask his previous mistake.
 
11:25 AM
They have to be lucky enough to already have some compatible characteristics.
 
user1804599
They should change the environment instead!
 
A species can adapt over time to a gradual change in environment, and this is achieved through selection within the species. That's completely different to happening to survive a meteor strike because you happen to be of a species that lives underground or something -- at best, that's selection across many species, with no "adaptation" in sight.
 
Such characteristics could not have arisen from adaptation to previous catastrophic events.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes a) I said it earlier, specialized species cannot. b) that's the very definition of a catastrophic event
 
@Cicada No, you're "subtly" attempting to be amusingly wrong.
 
11:26 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit plonk
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Tell that to the guys with the seeds that only flower when burned.
 
Bury your head in the sand then, freakshow.
 
Ell
@Cicada it's only a matter of time
even if it's billions of years
 
@Cicada You are the one seemingly doing that.
You introduced the "selection".
 
Xeo
11:27 AM
Tmesis (/t(ə)ˈmiːsɪs/; Ancient Greek: τμῆσις tmēsis, "a cutting" < τέμνω temnō, "I cut") is a linguistic phenomenon in which a word or phrase is separated into two parts, with other words interrupting between them. One example would be the recurring phrase by Barney Stinson on How I Met Your Mother, "legen-wait for it-dary", in which the phrase "wait for it" is inserted into the word "legendary". Another example is "'wel-diddly-elcome", a signature phrase of fictional character Ned Flanders', where a nonsense word is inserted. Note the reduplication of part of the host word (as opposed to "wel...
Fun
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...yes? Catastrophic events induce selection? How hard is that to understand
 
@Cicada Yes, that's not what he said?
How hard is that to understand?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes he did? " No not really."
 
Ell
It's so sad we can't have a discussion sometimes
 
@Cicada And then something else.
@Ell It's so sad you cherry-pick your observations.
 
11:30 AM
Whoaa j'avais complètement oublié ta capacité à être particulièrement agréable en discussion. Bel exemple de sélection là aussi.
 
Ell
:P
 
All I see is you repeatedly ignoring what he's trying to say.
(I don't think any of you is wrong; you're just talking past each other)
 
That would be a first
 
@Xeo Please dont tell me that's actually Wikipedia... opens link
 
Actually, I'm wrong.
You didn't ignore it.
 
11:35 AM
Dear God, why would they refer to stupid Flanders
 
You actually say that yeah, the distinction he's trying to make is valid, but then proceeded with pointless accusations.
 
And why is my name abbreviated as Loo -.-
 
fucking stupid flaggots >_<
 
user1804599
13:37
 
user1804599
@Abyx It was appropriate.
 
user1804599
11:38 AM
@Loopunroller Flanders is great.
 
struct check_all_requirements<…irrelevant…>
: detail::bind_over<check_all_requirements, Requirements<Nested>>
    ::template with_prefix<void>
    ::template with_suffix<nested<Nesteds...>, Rest...>
::type {}
^formatting challenge
 
Someone should make a browser-based game where you have to format crazy C++ in the best way possible.
 
Did you call my code crazy? :v
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes everyone would just use AStyle
Everyone's a cheating ass.
 
Like that kerning game, but formatting C++ instead.
 
11:42 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Stack Overflow
@Abyx did you not learn? perhaps another dunking?
 
Then outsource it as a captcha? ‘Format this piece of code and also rank that other one.’
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes There would be a lot of heated discussions about the correct way though
 
@thecoshman nice.
 
The fuck is he on about?
 
@loo is that some random dating website advert picture?
 
11:46 AM
> The primary reason for which I love C++ is that it's a language that allows me to see bits, [...], which is the best and most universal way to represent reality; and it is so sad that many people consider this representation as a low level thing.
 
user1804599
wat
 
> it isn't; after all using bits to represent reality was initially suggested by Leibnitz... hardly a low level person.
 
Is that Stepanov?
 
user1804599
abandon thread
 
> we should not be ashamed of bits
> the second thing I love about it is that it allows me to talk addresses
 
11:49 AM
alright, can the crap
 
You mean "cut"?
 
user1804599
No, can it.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yes.
 
@Sofffia if I did, I would have said that.
 
"Creator of the STL"
 
11:51 AM
@Sofffia "and dick butt"
 
user1804599
The STL?
 

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