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10:00 PM
@JohanLarsson It is! Hence it matches all the expectations: it's large. It's centralized. It's unusable. It's slow. It's expensive, and, last but not least, it has printed documentation and certification possibilities
 
+6
I think I like it better than SVN though, gate check ins are nice. SVN can prolly do that too though.
 
Is TFS something like IBM RTC/Jazz?
 
I use git locally to keep me safe from TFS's derps
I never met RTC/Jazz so dunno
 
@sehe vOv it's not clearcrap
@JohanLarsson gate check ins?
 
I played with setting up a local nuget, turned out ok.
@thecoshman gated, rejects if it does not build and optionally if any test fails.
 
10:04 PM
@thecoshman True. TFS sucks in that respect.
 
The testrunner is pretty broken ime. Getting exceptions and not test results.
 
@JohanLarsson oh right, sounds like the sort of thing you'd use a plugin for
 
@JohanLarsson It can! Our work place uses it (aside from using Git too)
 
@sehe TFS or CC... which is worse?
 
Not sure. I'd bet CC (older, not even MS)
 
10:06 PM
gah! what are you doing to me
shoo, shoo with your crappy software
 
@sehe enterprice
 
@thecoshman "would"--even if God did exist, would he...
 
@JerryCoffin aye, the chances of gods existing is about on par with such entities witnessing you
 
> To be honest, I don't think I've seen a red herring this big in a while. src
always nice to start an answer (OP spent many paragraphs complaining how Boost stopped working without warning)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes actually not to sure... I saw a few people seemingly coming into UK with but a card... so unless some countries have passports that are just like a credit card thingy, you might be good to go.
 
10:14 PM
@thecoshman Ryanair: 'In order to ensure compliance, passengers should carry a valid passport (and visa if applicable) or EU/EEA government issued national identification card on all journeys.'
 
It's an indispensible skill. I require myself to test my answers when possible. This is great exercise and quite fun to do. — sehe 9 secs ago
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ^ more traffic coming your way
 
10:38 PM
@sehe The mistake is quite obvious. Without looking at the page any further, is the problem operator precedence?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit How is Lizzy doing?
 
@Loopunroller what on earth are you talking about?
 
@sehe The code in the link.
I suppose you read the article.
 
Looooooooooooooooooooong ago. It's not about the sample of course (I admit I might never have read that)
 
@sehe Ahh, excuse me then
 
10:40 PM
:) np
 
@sehe tl;dr & have different precedence than % regarding ==
So a & b == c is really a & (b == c); and a % b == c is really (a % b) == c.
 
Thanks :) I know why I disambiguate these. However, with EDSLs it can become tedious
 
@sehe When you are so nice i want to hug you and give you cake
 
He is sarcastic.
He always is.
 
I'm not sarcastic, i actually mean it.
 
10:45 PM
sehe is sarcastic, not you.
 
Ah, shit
He's not always sarcastic though.
 
@Loopunroller You want to kill me with foodstuffs :)
@Sofffia now now. Give peace a chance
 
Fuck peace.
 
@Loopunroller (sssssssh. we don't want everyone and their dog to know; I would have to go into hiding)
 
@MartinJames Ryanair, thankfully, are not government border control.
 
10:48 PM
@Loopunroller He's working on making Sturgeon's Law apply, so he's sarcastic 90% of the time.
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@JerryCoffin s/sarcastic/a dick/
 
@thecoshman 90% of us are dicks...
 
@JerryCoffin ¬_¬ that may be so...
 
@thecoshman She said I was 90% dick...
 
10:56 PM
@Rapptz "Frieden said it was four or five days later that the patient, who is believed to be male, […]"
rofl ^^
 
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A: How to find Boost libraries that does not contain any platform specific code

KlausWe had "Boost or not" discussion too. We decided not to use it. We had some untypical hardware platforms to serve with one source code. Especially running boost on AVR was simply impossible because RTTI and exceptions, which Boost requires for a lot of things, aren't available. There are parts...

After I've thoroughly polished this turd, maybe it's time to rain some skepticism onto it
 
@JerryCoffin that is not so
 
@Loopunroller It's now difficult to tell, since...certain parts of his body have already been destroyed by the virus. For some unknown reason, however, ever since his crotch was infected, s/he started to beg to just be killed now.
 
meh
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Q: `std::string` allocations are my current bottleneck - how can I optimize with a custom allocator?

Vittorio RomeoI'm writing a C++14 JSON library as an exercise and to use it in my personal projects. By using callgrind I've discovered that the current bottleneck during a continuous value creation from string stress test is an std::string dynamic memory allocation. Precisely, the bottleneck is the call to ...

 
@sehe is that turd a shining?
 
10:59 PM
@JerryCoffin wtf, are you serious!?
 
@thecoshman mucho
 
My god
HOLD ON
You were sarcastic, weren't you?
 
@Loopunroller 90% of the time I'm not.
 
I'm totally unsure now
 
@sehe did you wash your hands?
 
11:00 PM
Nope
 
@sehe commence fapping o_o
 
?!?!
 
... oh not... it's not for everyone I guess.
 
@Loopunroller No, I wasn't serious (but it wasn't really sarcasm either, just joking around).
 
Now that's irony
 
11:05 PM
@sehe It can't be. You know Americans just don't get irony, so you should know better than to even suggest such a thing.
 
Now, that's just flippancy.
 
Well, I wonder. Why don't we close borders from africa?
I mean, the first rule with handling a virus situation is not to allow it to go anywhere else.
 
Aug 17 at 16:15, by Alex M.
Africa should be under quarantine
read from then on
 
Ell
@Sofffia they have in a lot of places
 
@Sofffia firstly, it's not that big a deal; secondly, look how that land border blocked has gone with merica-mexico
 
11:12 PM
One thing is closing the borders. Another is to do not allow importations.
Imported materials are perfectly fine, as long as they are regulated.
The real danger are people.
@thecoshman Clearly the same thing.
 
@sehe When was the last time I was in the lounge and not flippant?
 
One is separated by a wall, the other by an ocean.
 
@JerryCoffin Am I obliged to answer that?
 
@thecoshman Also what's "not that big of a deal"?
 
@sehe Absolutely! (He said flippantly)
 
11:14 PM
@Sofffia ebola. not that contagious, not that bad to catch.
 
@Sofffia he probably refers to the fact that ebola has been killing people for ages
 
@thecoshman Yeah, clearly.
 
Africa's been suffering of it for more than 40 years now
 
@Sofffia yes, surprisingly pesky little buggers to keep from moving around.
 
@AlexM. Never this much.
 
11:15 PM
The International Committee on Taxonomy of Viruses currently recognizes four species of Ebola: Zaire ebolavirus (EBOV), Sudan ebolavirus (SUDV), Reston ebolavirus (RESTV), and Taï Forest ebolavirus (TAFV). One additional species or type of Ebola is often recognized by the World Health Organization (WHO) and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) as Bundibugyo ebolavirus (BDBV) or Ebola-Bundibugyo, following the outbreak in Uganda in 2007. Ebola outbreaks have been restricted to Africa with the exception of Reston ebolavirus. However, on 30 September 2014 a patient in Texas, USA, who had...
 
@AlexM. Yes. That confirms my statement.
As expected.
 
yes, never this much, but 3k isn't that many, and it has a lot to do with how people interact with each other
I doubt the virus just decided to kill more people
 
Although, when it hears you, it might
 
the thing gets lots of media attention when it goes outside Africa though
like with that spanish guy who died of it
and now this guy
 
No. It's just that people are all taking it so calmly that I wouldn't be surprised if Europa and USA virus spreading were suddenly "out of control".
 
11:18 PM
nah, if enough people die here, pharmaceutical companies will be more willing to find cures
 
There's no cure yet.
 
they're probably too expensive to justify saving Africa
and how would Africa pay for it anyway
if a cure would be advertised, the companies would look like assholes for letting Africans who can't pay, die
 
What are you even on about?
If a vaccine existed, it would have been released already.
The perfect timing is now.
 
^ Remember H5N1
Big ass booming business splash, that
 
@Sofffia it gets released to people who can afford it
Africa can't afford expensive treatment
 
11:22 PM
No, to everybody.
 
and there's no reason to sell it outside Africa
because of a single guy who died?
 
You, as a pharmaceutical company, are an idiot if you are hiding a cure in this moment.
 
@AlexM. There is (I think) a little more justification for worry than just caring more about people "here" than "there". Most of the outbreaks so far have been in relatively isolated areas. Somebody who was (unknowingly) infected living a large city (whether in the US, Europe, Asia, etc.) could infect a much larger number of people very quickly. The number of victims could grow from thousands to millions in a matter of weeks.
 
@Sofffia emphasis on company
someone has to pay for anything they make
 
It's not just about selling single doses, it's about fear and how you can make people buy your product.
Keeping it hidden makes absolutely no sense.
 
11:23 PM
you need a bit more than one death in the US to sell vaccines properly there
 
Which means that no cure exists already.
 
and you also need to take into account the cost to produce the cure
 
Which means that this is actually more severe than you might think.
@AlexM. Are you serious?
 
The Tuskegee syphilis experiment (/tʌsˈkiːɡiː/) was an infamous clinical study conducted between 1932 and 1972 by the U.S. Public Health Service to study the natural progression of untreated syphilis in rural African American men who thought they were receiving free health care from the U.S. government. The Public Health Service started working with the Tuskegee Institute in 1932. Investigators enrolled in the study a total of 600 impoverished sharecroppers from Macon County, Alabama. 399 of those men had previously contracted syphilis before the study began, and 201 did not have the disease. The...
 
You would sell vaccines like milk
 
11:24 PM
1 min ago, by Alex M.
and you also need to take into account the cost to produce the cure
^ I think that's a bit more relevant than fear
 
@AlexM. Yeah, when you have demand, production cost is really a problem.
 
you seem to think that the production costs for each dose can be covered by single persons
 
lol
 
we have no idea what the production cost of the cure would be
we actually have no idea about anything regarding said possible cure
 
@Sofffia What the fuck?
@sehe <3
 
11:26 PM
@AlexM. You don't know what vaccines are, do you?
 
@Sofffia I know vaccines are produced
you take ingredients, you apply a process on them and get a product
 
Ell
Its not profitable to make a cure yet
Also its difficult
 
FFS you don't sell the cure, you sell the vaccines
 
both the ingredients and the process have costs attached to them
 
11:27 PM
cure != vaccines
 
cost = money, time etc.
 
@AlexM. You define the cost
 
no you don't define the cost, since it depends on other factors
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit maybe more in general, I don't think Jeffffrey asked specifically about the fucks
 
including and not limited to your ingredients' providers
 
11:28 PM
If the cost is too high you let millionaires buy your product at double the price.
 
the companies who maintain the equipment required to apply that process on the ingredients
etc. etc.
 
@sehe Just slightly confused about (a) how he remembered that name, and (b) why he's asking about my lying, cheating whore of an ex-fiancée from a year ago
 
@Sofffia lol. armchair socialism
 
also re-reading that blog post and I'm fecking proud of it
some decent writing, that, if I do say so myself
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit oh - dang I missed an episode. Carry on
 
11:30 PM
researchers who are able to work in the area for Ebola treatments might be too expensive to justify acquiring too many of them too
there are like so many reasons for which this would be expensive
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Sucks m8
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I'm sorry.
 
no need to apologise I'm just confused! you've never even mentioned her before AFAICR
thanks for taking an interest though I guess? lol
<3
so did you lot kill elichai2 or what?
 
Trust me, if a cure existed, it would be out already.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I like it. But I think the title is weak. It's not a good sign when you have to start your article by dispelling the wrong expectations your audience is likely to have:
> When I say "testcases", I don't mean a unit test, or even a functional test, or any set of instructions to verify the correctness of a program.
 
11:32 PM
@AlexM. It's not generally that simple (or even close to it). A vaccine generally requires either 1) dead virus cells, or 2) live virus of either a weakened strain of the virus, or something else closely enough related to trigger the production of antigens effective against the virus. Neither of those is a simple matter of "mix amounts X, Y and Z of chemicals A, B, and C", or anything close to it.
 
@JerryCoffin I guess
I'll keep an eye out for what happens
 
@sehe Granted
@sehe This "testcase" terminology I learnt from Freenode repeatedly bites me, but I can't seem to shake it
 
Also rising the guard costs nothing and may save your life.
 
Ell
@sofffia the cost of making a vaccine is too high
 
That being said, in this instance it's an excuse to concisely define the thing that the article talks about. So it kinda works out well here, narratively.
 
11:33 PM
While acting like you are sure nothing is gonna happen to you will probably get you dead.
 
Ell
The customers can't Afford that cost plus profit
 
@JerryCoffin I did oversimplify it but I still see <things> that the company must have, and something that is done on them and <things> that it gets
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I like "standalone tester" or "proof of concept", "test snippet" (but that's down the slippery slope of suggesting it doesn't need to be selfcontained)
 
yeah
I like the symmetry between "testcase" and the properties of unit tests, accidental though it may be
 
Ell
You say sell it to millionaires but the cost is billions and those people are the least likely demographic to be infected imho
 
11:34 PM
Or, maybe "one-off". On SO I became lazy enough to just say "SSCCE" everywhere
 
definitely wanted to avoid the seemingly esoteric "SSCCE"
 
:)( good call
Perhaps "Nobody Writes Test Programs Anymore"
 
@Sofffia but maybe companies do know something is going to happen
 
Perhaps "Nobody Has Even Half Of A Fucking Brain Any More"
 
This seems quite biased and possibly outdated. We have better posts about this. Where are the '"hacks" to e.g. get information about class structure'? Splitting the packages is easy with BCP. The inter dependencies are true (mpl, typetraits, utility, core are basically indispensible). I'm not saying you made the wrong choice. — sehe 7 mins ago
 
11:35 PM
and are waiting for that sweet spot in time to sell their stuff :O
 
@AlexM. Does it matter?
 
imagine how much money people would be willing to spend if their neighbors dropped around them
vs media-induced panic
 
If you get it before they release it your fucked. It's as simple as that.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I like the symmetry with "Oh The Huge Manatee" and the properties of entitled jerks, accidental though it may be
 
Ell
@lightness can I read this blog post?
 
11:36 PM
@Sofffia well... yeah
 
I sometimes imagine that everybody else on the planet got vapourised by a neutron bomb and I magically survived, spending my remaining days going out on scouting missions for fuel, water and food, and building up barricades around an increasingly massive radius around my home.
 
I agree with that
 
@Ell Permission granted.
 
I don't understand what you meant to say with it though
 
11:36 PM
@Sofffia Not true. Fatality is not 100%
 
When you reach the point in which your neighbors are dropping around you, the world is already at non-returning point.
You won't sell much at that point.
 
Ell
But I'm on mobile but if you happen to have it handy I'd appreciate
@lightness thank you. May I also have a link? :P
I'm reading through the tranny now though
 
@Sofffia well, that's what happens in Africa
 
@Sofffia You seem to believe that Ebola is somehow airborne
 
do you think Africa will be wiped out?
 
11:37 PM
@sehe Why?
 
Ell
I'm reading through the tranny now though
 
I don't think everyone in Africa will die anytime soon
 
@AlexM. I sure hope not.
 
That would be quite sudden.
 
It's a possibility.
 
11:38 PM
@Ell Ell, go home, you're drunk
 
Exponential growth is scary.
 
I suppose it depends on what you mean by soon.
 
@Ell You may.
@sehe Give it three weeks
 
The human population scares me too :/
 
@OMGtechy I mostly wanted to say
that considering Jefffrey's statement, Africa is at a point of no return right now
which means it can't be saved, ever
so Africa is just waiting to die out
 
Ell
@lightness give me a link to the transcript please
Imperative always sounds so rude
 
@AlexM. Perhaps it's best to try to put it in perspective. Companies have been searching for drugs to cure AIDS for decades now. They've accomplished some, but not a whole lot. AFAIK, nobody has an effective vaccine either. For another comparison, the Polio vaccine basically took two generations of researchers to isolate and identify the strains of the virus, the develop effective vaccines.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit True that. But, you could just as well anticipate an entire new strand of disease, or some mutation of a very common animal disease that suddenly decimates the population. It's been known to happen.
 
@AlexM. wat
 
> but not a whole lot.
 
11:40 PM
> When you reach the point in which your neighbors are dropping around you, the world is already at non-returning point.
 
I think patients beg to differ with you
 
Ell
@sofffia maybe a pharmaceutical company is waiting for more cases
 
@AlexM. I don't know enough to comment really. Although I can't imagine people would just leave such a large landmass...
 
Ell
Therefore making more money
 
neighbors in Africa are really dropping around guys there
 
11:41 PM
@AlexM. Yes, USA and Africa are totally different countries.
 
@sehe I was just being sensational, really. I'm a sensational person.
 
If a civilized country is reduced as Africa, then the world is at a point of no return.
 
Ell
@omg its pretty arid, idk why anyone likes being there :P
 
@Sofffia What?
 
@Sofffia wut?
 
11:42 PM
I had a splendid evening meeting up with @tweetsbi, @martinfernandes, @GeorgFritzsche, and @cpp_theo here in Berlin. Much beer was drank :-)
im jealous right now
 
@AlexM. If you are in US and people around you are dropping dead, then you at a point of no return.
 
Ell
Me too
 
@Sofffia Civilized nations will be wealthier, on average, so they will have much more capacity to veer back and handle it
 
Because that means that the civilized world is basically dead.
 
I wonder how long I'd be able to survive if Ebola went crazy in Romania
 
11:43 PM
@Sofffia Go home. You're deluded.
 
@sehe They've accomplished a lot in terms of making people's lives better--but if we're going to be at all accurate, essentially nothing in terms of truly curing the disease itself.
 
I maxed out at 2 months w/o any sort of contact with another human being (other than my parents)
 
@JerryCoffin True enough.
 
but since I don't live with my parents anymore...
hmmm
 
People dying in Africa is no surprise
 
11:44 PM
physical contact is even less likely in my case
 
Also considering that a good part of the population refuses medical treatments and decide to be cured by wizards of some sort.
 
it's been 5 years since anything other than handshakes, lol
 
Hi!
I see James already tweeted about it.
 
Ell
Hi robot
 
@AlexM. Welcome to the club :(
 
11:45 PM
@Sofffia Or... they loot the hospitals where patients were dieing. Or they refuse to listen to health workers because the government warns them against it
 
Ell
How was your drinking?
 
Fine.
I'm sobering up.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yup. Some take their web responsibilities very seriously
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes So he did. Are you sober enough to contribute anything meaningful beyond "I survived!" ?
 
Who says he did
 
11:46 PM
@sehe wut
 
That's what /has been/ happening.
 
@Sofffia Africans looted hospitals and quarantined villages, and ignored advice from officials and stuff
 
@sehe His posting tends to at least indicate that, though I suppose it remains somewhat below the level of true proof. In the case of a robot, "survive" may be a somewhat slippery term anyway.
 
@Sofffia I think it's lots better now, but this more or less explains how the outbreak became the largest. Like everyone has been saying, it's really not that hard to contain Ebola
 
Yeah just shoot the carriers.
 
11:47 PM
@JerryCoffin The latter was my thought
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's what they tried in Ukraine
 
@Borgleader and my fucking invite was where
 
Are you in Berlin?
 
Now now. Don't spoil it with realism
 
11:48 PM
@Sofffia Unlike, say, the US deep south. Or 80% of India. Or parts of Wales...
or all of Romania let's face it
 
lol
 
with @AlexM and his gippo mates
 
...
 
hey!
 
(dear Daily Mail: I'm kidding!)
 
11:49 PM
lol
 
that's racist!
 
only if you hate gippos you racist
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Daily Mail doesn't know what that means
 
@sehe "kidding"? true
 
how i imagined it
 
11:50 PM
"Random person says racist stuff" as a headline?
Sounds like something the puppy would read :p
 
Nah. Needs to be copy-edited into "John Doe Racy Quoting Out Of Hand: Uproar"
 
The puppy? Never heard of him. (And therefore he does not exist)
 
I have to say that walking home sounded like a much better prospect while I could not feel pain in my hurt toe because alcohol.
 
man
no one is selling smash 4 early
 
Ell
You should have kept drinking on the way home
 
11:54 PM
lol
 
what's a man got to do to break the street date
 
Ell
I sometimes take drink when I'm walking somewhere
Then realise after I've just opened a can or bottle that I look like a hooligan drinking in the street
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you mean I'm the one being racist for calling you out for being racist?
we need to go deeper
 
@AlexM. Yes you little shit!
 
Ell
Although it seemed appropriate in Switzerland and lots of people did it
 
11:55 PM
hug a goat or something I dno
 
@Ell here you'd just look German.
 
Ell
I think they have a much different drinking culture then then uk
 
I don't think anyone has the same drinking culture as the UK
we're pretty special
 
lol this reminds me, I never saw a goat IRL in my life :\
 
11:56 PM
speaking of, I'm pretty sure it's time for bed
 
or maybe I forgot
 
@AlexM. RACIST AGAINST YOUR OWN PEOPLE
 
I'm not a social person okay?
I'm not racist
 
user1646075
11:56 PM
@AlexM. "I'm not racist, I hate all people equally"
 
And remember, if you ever need to do research on UK drinking culture, just peruse through @MartinJames's Lounge contributions. He's proper representative yeah
 
Ell
It was strange. There were people drinking in the streets but never being drunk. And I couldn't find any alcopops and their spirit selection was small. It seems they drink just beer(lager/ale/idk what its actually called) and wine
 
@Ell Sounds like a group of "cultured" people. Ugh.
j/k that sounds awesome
 
Or in Swiss... something that sounds weird.
@Lightness that's really normal here as well.
 
11:58 PM
Who pinged me half way through my pizza and Hobgobin?
 
Ell
The Oktoberfest was great. The weekend was. I cant wait to go again
 
New Year in the centre of Rome, 2005, was pretty spectacular and pretty much like that. Except lots of bottles of champagne. And once midnight had come, everyone smashed the bottles on the street as if it were some kind of ritual. Within 20 minutes, all the glass had been cleared up and the roads were re-opened. No riots, no need for arrests, no trouble whatsoever. It was spectacular.
 
Ell
I want to go to Berlin for an unconference too
 
ROFL
 
@MartinJames SEE
 
11:58 PM
lol Martin never disappoints.
 
> T"hat's less than what I tip the guy... who tips people for me!"
> "I, also, have benefited from exceptional lighting."
 
Ell
@lightness that sounds great
I've never been to Italy
 
shit, now I want pizza
but I'm full already
 
@AlexM. and that matters...why?
 
Ell
Purge & binge
 

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