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1:00 PM
24 hours before voting begins is reasonable but way too much.
This game is going to take years to finish.
 
we can amend the exact timings later
 
change tge timing rules on your next go
 
I believe we shouldn't go below a day for any part
 
@CatPlusPlus Why
 
It's supposed to be PBEM pace after all, and not 'check the forum every hour to not miss anything'
 
1:01 PM
Just make it that everybody needs to comment on the proposal, then we can vote and everybody has to vote on the proposal. That simple.
Fixed timing is silly.
 
Hi =) anyone with POSIX knowledge?
 
@Jefffrey That's potentially way more than 24 hours
 
And potentially less.
 
@Roberto No, they're all dead.
 
1:02 PM
@CatPlusPlus Then cap it to 24 hours for both discussing and voting.
 
@Jefffrey For someone that thinks 24 hours is too much, unlimited doesn't seem like a reasonable alternative.
 
This being a game you check once a day is fine
 
That's way too short.
 
If it takes years then it takes years, I don't play to win (I never win) anyway
And also I want safeguards against fast-tracking anything :v
 
@Jefffrey I might support that proposal in a few weeks. But this early in a game I've never played before, the 24h minimum is pretty nice
 
1:04 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes It's never going to be unlimited because everybody wants to go forward and not being stuck on the same phase for weeks.
 
@Jefffrey You're assuming malice, but someone might just not have time on a particular day
Or week. Time frames should be there to give everyone a chance
 
@CatPlusPlus Ok, then cap it to 48 hours, but remove the minimum.
 
1 min ago, by Cat Plus Plus
And also I want safeguards against fast-tracking anything :v
 
The minimum is just silly in the case of: proposal -> everybody is ok within the first 8 hours -> 16 hours of waiting for nothing
 
You don't have to sit on the forum for 16 hours
 
1:06 PM
¬_¬ I thought I got out of this
 
That's the point. Do something else. Check on the status once a day or something
 
@thecoshman You are even more in now.
I have nothing interesting to do.
 
My life is that game, now.
 
303. Jefffrey shall be addressed as a supernerd in all communications.
 
1:07 PM
@Jefffrey Not gonna happen too often because we're not all resident in the same timezone.
 
I should have stayed till my turn and proposed you can only talk about it on that forum
 
@Puppy Yeah, our sleeping patterns are all so regular. Right.
 
Well mine aren't, check out the timestamps on that first proposal
 
@Jefffrey That only makes the problem worse, not better.
 
Not really.
 
1:10 PM
lol having unclosed bracket in a YAML file slows vim to a crawl
 
fuck
why does my prospective employer want to know why I want to work at a company?
it's to get paid, duh.
 
Ell
@Puppy and to get experience in a particular area
 
user1646075
@Puppy for the lulz of course
 
Ell
because you're interested in them
blah blah
 
lol
it's the blah blah that concerns me
 
Ell
@Puppy just make shit up :P
 
user1646075
a combination of how it helps you and how it helps them. goes down really well
 
@Puppy ah you just going to scrape along doing the bare minimum to get paid, or do you really give a fuck.
 
user1646075
@Ell <== and this
 
well I kinda do give a fuck since I'll need a good reference
 
1:15 PM
Ugh having brackets at all slows vim to a crawl
 
> Listen, either Pluto is not a planet, or a ton of other Kuiper Belt objects are planets.

But, did they really have to call something that wasn't a Dwarf or a Planet a Dwarf Planet?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ...
 
It's a plutoid
 
@Puppy, be able to speak coherently for like three sentences about what they do as a company and you should be good.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit That's just a specialisation of dwarf planet.
 
1:18 PM
yes i know
 
@Puppy ... yeah, try not to let slip that you just want to leave after a years experience
 
Ell
astronomy terms are royally fucked
 
I think I'll fail again
 
Ell
and why on earth do they use parsecs anywhere
 
Not on Earth.
That's the point.
 
1:20 PM
because of the Kessel Run.
 
lol
 
Fucking exams
I can't remember things I don't care about
I just can't
My brain refuses to despite me actively trying
 
@Ell Parsec is a really useful unit that easily gives out important information that obsessing with powers of ten or whatever would not.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Why are you doing exams then?
inb4 because they will grant me a piece of paper for which I'll be able to prove I'm able to do computer science stuff and therefore get a job in this industry so that I can do the stuff that I want and get paid for that.
3
 
effective inb4
 
1:23 PM
oh, reminds me, why the fuck doesn't @BartekBanachewicz use Gradian?
 
Why would anyone use it
 
@Jefff precisely
 
> It is also known as a gon
wut
 
Because it's gone
 
good one
(that's probably another name for it too)
 
1:27 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oh god. Poor sod.
 
What about having at most 1 turn per player active? So that we can parallelize the discussion and voting for a x N (with N = number of players) increase in efficiency?
 
How did you end up reading about grads?
Fuck the French.
 
@Jefffrey Big old nope.
 
Thought so.
 
It's going to be a slow game.
 
1:28 PM
I reckon.
 
Seriously why do you want to hurry up so much
 
Oh, cosh linked to it.
 
Nomic can last for years yeah
No pressure
 
Ok, I'm sorry.
 
1:29 PM
@thecoshman Why would he?
 
Why would anyone
 
morning
 
morning
 
who wants to play for years? you lot can barely organise a two-day programming competition ffs
 
shut up
 
1:30 PM
Well cosh already quit and we had one turn so
 
we'll succeed in this
 
You should join us and show us how it's done~
 
Lounge projects in a nutshell
 
all the negativity is 80% of the reason why nothing works in here
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes like when?
when does it give important information?
 
I am pretty fucking positive
 
no it's not there's no fucking negativity you moron
 
@Ell Always?
 
Ell
what information does it give?
 
1:31 PM
nothing
 
Ell
all it gives is distance which is what metres would give
It used to be useful I agree
 
Ell
when we measured things with parallax seconds of arc
 
1:33 PM
itt ell is stupido
 
Yes parsecs were very useful when we used parsecs
And since we still use them they're still useful!
 
@Ell We still do, because that's what we get from observational data.
 
It works out perfectly
 
you dont measure astronomical distances in metres. it is not convenient to do so. further, measuring solar stuff in parsecs is incredibly convenient. this is not an archaic thing
 
Obsessing with powers of ten is stupid.
 
1:34 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit his mouth/typing speed is three to six steps ahead of his brain.
 
When did you ever see metres used in context of astronomy
 
...he has a brain?
 
You have to do incredibly large quantities to describe anything
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit it must exist in some manner
 
The common alternative to the parsec is the light-year.
 
1:35 PM
Or AU
 
dont see why
 
@CatPlusPlus Er, no.
 
attoparsec
 
Shutup I like them
 
1:35 PM
AUs stop being useful at interstellar distances.
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes We still measure stuff like that?
 
Xeo
@Ell That is how we measure stuff!
 
AUs are precisely as useful as parsecs at interstellar distances
 
Ell
No wonder I only got a B in physics :P
 
You qualify perfectly for editing Wikipedia articles about the subject
 
Ell
1:37 PM
we can't get rid of AUs
 
This is reminding me of when the high school freshman science teachers sent kids around looking for the kilometer-stick
 
@Ell What the fuck kind of data do you think we can get from stars that far away?
 
Xeo
Solfies
 
You mean aliens don't use SI?
 
Ell
huh
 
1:40 PM
Feet, obviously
 
STANDARD UNITS MY ASS
 
Ell
I thought you can only measure near stars with parallax?
 
No you measure with a stick
also I've realized I'm terrible at programming
2
I need to do more self jams
 
@Ell Yes, where "near" is defined by the resolution of your telescopes.
 
They are a real thing
 
1:42 PM
Self potatoes
Will you participate though?
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz did you do your exam yet?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes That Civ ship sure is fast.
 
self peeling potato = a stripper?
 
1:47 PM
@BartekBanachewicz a self-jam sounds uncomfortable
 
> Gaia will be able to measure a star's position and motion 200 times more accurately than Hipparcos. Changes in a star's position and motion are registered as tiny angles. As a comparison, if Hipparcos could measure the angle that corresponds to the height of an astronaut standing on the Moon, Gaia will be able to measure his thumbnail!
 
Ell
Fair enough
well, you learn something new everyday
 
"Hipparcos" was a previous mission whose name stood for "High Precision Parallax Collecting Satellite".
(And also the name of a Greek astronomer)
 
Ell
What is the best way to expose a SAX parser? an interface you have to comply to, or a load of callbacks you can attach to? (I'm not writing an xml parser, I promise)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Wow, when did scientist get better at naming things? Thats actually good name, unlike "VLA".
 
Xeo
1:51 PM
Mmm, vla...
 
variably lubed arses
 
hmm
what if you could just pass a target to the function.
 
@Ell yes
@CatPlusPlus fuck you
 
hey it's 14:00 UTC
time to vote on Cat's proposal.
 
this is beautiful
 
2:06 PM
it's terrible
 
you're terrible
 
@AlexM. nice
@AlexM. we know that already
 
I bet if I was able to sing like Frank Sinatra, I'd get all the girls in the world
nah, that's still unlikely
thinking about it, aside from a steady job with good pay there's nothing attractive about me
I should work on that
 
I'm sorry that you're not as beautiful as me
 
@AlexM. dat pun
 
2:12 PM
@Puppy also as smart, let's not forget that.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Trust me, I did not.
 
I need some lessons on being beautiful from puppy-senpai
 
Yeah, that guy was suave as fuck.
 
@Jefffrey lol it was unintended, and it took me a few good seconds to notice it once you pointed it out
 
2:14 PM
@Puppy so also as thoughtful.
I wonder if puppy gets that I'm mocking him
Probably yes, since he's so smart.
 
@Jefffrey what pun
 
@AlexM. lmao
 
@AlexM. You're attractive if you believe you are.
 
@Puppy If I tell you than you won't recognize how beautiful it is and you'll start mocking me for not knowing what a pun is, while it's just you not seeing it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I was also smart today btw: before evening, all of the sandwiches at the best sandwich place get sold, and for some reason they only make them in the morning and at noon
so I bought two sandwiches, and kept one for the evening
 
2:16 PM
woah
 
ikr, it took me 3 weeks to find out that I can do that
 
I did that once too.
It was great.
 
@CatPlusPlus the name alone implies that plan B failed, just as plan C... etc
 
I have no idea why these sandwiches are so great; they're really plain and have nothing really amazing in them
I guess it's just the ingredients that are tasty
 
Xeo
My sushi is tasty.
 
2:18 PM
like, salami, cheese cream, cheese slices and pickles and that's about it
@EtiennedeMartel I think a beer belly is objectively unattractive though
 
Do witches really like sand? (Sorry, that was the best I could do with "sandwich", "sand", "witches", "itches" and "tasty")
 
@AlexM. I have one. Doesn't matter.
 
but I can't do sports, because they're too boring, the only hope for me is to get one of those apartment bikes and sit at home to work out
 
I just had a buttie. Breaded ham, tomato and iceberg lettuce on brown. I'll be OK now until tonight's pizza/curry.
I was going to stay in, but Wadworths 6X on.
 
sounds healthy
 
2:20 PM
the sandwich I saved has a chicken schnitzel in it, cheese cream, some lettuce and some other vegetables
I'd eat it now but I'm not hungry
 
Nice:)
 
@Jefffrey it's ok, some sandwich puns are butter than others
 
@AlexM. Then do a non-boring sport. Rock climbing? Mountain biking?
 
that can easily kill me
 
@AlexM. Find a sport you like. Climbing, hiking, etc also count.
 
2:21 PM
@AlexM. Real life isn't a manga.
 
especially rock climbing
 
So? :-D
 
lol
 
Only if you do it incredibly unintelligently
 
Xeo
@AlexM. Bungee jumping!
Also, I recommend cycling to work
 
2:22 PM
Don't leave a gym for the first 3 years. Don't go climbing outside with anyone you know to be stupid.
 
Xeo
himself?
 
ouch
 
lol
 
@Xeo well he wouldn't be going with himself. You would hope the others would try to compensate for that issue, or follow the rule themselves and not take him with them if they don't want to be responsible for him.
 
@Xeo it barely takes 30 min to get there on foot
 
Xeo
2:23 PM
@AlexM. Yes, so?
 
with a bike that would probably be reduced to 10 mins depending on traffic
isn't that... too little?
 
Xeo
It takes 5-10 mins for me on bike
 
Pick a longer route. :-D
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Just for youuuuu.
 
Xeo
@AlexM. It's a constant, every-day thing though
to and from work
also, you can go cycle a round during lunch
 
2:24 PM
also I'm not sure it's that nice to bike in this city :\ they always seem to have to work to avoid pedestrians, the bike lanes are not very well marked here
 
When GCC (Global Corporate Challenge) was going, I averaged a bit under 20k steps a day. Just picked long-ass route everywhere.
 
@Jefffrey If you interpret "my sisters and I" as witches, then apparently yes. youtube.com/watch?v=RcEumfNE9vM
 
if the bike lanes were part of the road itself, it would have been nicer
but they're part of the side of the road where pedestrians move around and they're only separated by a painted line
so you constantly see pedestrians on the lane and bikers outside it
 
Xeo
no excuses, just do try it
it's especially nice if you have some slopes on the way
 
I guess the effort of carrying my bike two stories to my apartment is enough daily exercise anyway
might try it
 
Xeo
2:28 PM
Don't have a basement to put it in?
 
@EtiennedeMartel does the robot have a giant squid army we should probably all know about?
 
I don't have access to it and it's a very "open" apartment block, it's safer to keep everything you have in your apartment
 
@SamDeHaan The robot has an interesting relationship with cephalopods.
 
I trust my own door's lock more than the basement's grating lock
 
Xeo
2:32 PM
just one more hour...
I can do this...
gnaaaaah
My motivation hit rock-bottom at 10am today. I arrived at 9:30am.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes because there is a 100 per right angle!
 
@Xeo I've been installing dependencies for almost 6 hours now
it was not an exciting day
 
Xeo
I've been trying to profile some stuff the whole day
it's not really working :<
 
@Xeo Ouch!
 
Xeo
Even the sushi at lunch couldn't save me.
 
2:35 PM
I'm trying to find emails to send but no chance, already sent what I had to
I just have to sit idly while this shit is being installed
 
Xeo
Meh. Fuck 12 hour clocks for noon / midnight
 
I VOTE AGAINST!!!!! (not really, we need something to imply OP vote because it's silly)
Also I need food again
Hate when that happens
 
@Xeo my motivation hit rock bottom at 8:30am today, I arrived at 8:45am. This is, however, my last week at this job, which has some effect.
 
@Xeo My motivation hit rock-bottom at 10am 2 weeks ago
Also I need to order something cheap stop talking about sushi :<
Or maybe let's try eggs
 
An omelette is good. As long as you put your weight in cheese in it.
 
Xeo
2:44 PM
@CatPlusPlus make it yourseeeelf
 
@thecoshman How's that related to Bartek, though?
 
Ell
Spanish omelette is delicious
 
Things in my fridge:
- eggs
- milk
- beer
- half of bottle of Jack Daniels
 
@EtiennedeMartel the more cheese the better yes
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus have you got any red onions?
 
2:45 PM
@CatPlusPlus I've voted against one of my proposals when I played at my place.
 
Ell
and sugar?
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Do you have sugar, soy sauce, salt?
 
Ell
and garlic?
 
It's complicated.
 
I have salt
I don't use sugar
 
2:45 PM
@CatPlusPlus Drink the Jack Daniel's. You won't care about the rest.
 
@Ell This reminded me of a frittata.
 
Xeo
cheap scrambled eggs it is
@CatPlusPlus Sweet omelette is goood
 
Ell
@EtiennedeMartel Ooh that looks yummy
 
I could also make not-scrambled eggs!!!
 
Ell
@CatPlusPlus do you have bread?
Make eggy-bread
 
2:46 PM
Toast bread. If it's even still alive
 
Xeo
s/even still/not already/
 
Depends on how you look at it I guess
 
Xeo
does it scream "kill meeeeeee~" when you open it?
@CatPlusPlus Or, you could go shopping. gasp
 
stalking on linkedin is hard, because the stalked always gets notified that you're looking at their profile >.>
 
:effort:
 
2:49 PM
@Ell It is.
 
Xeo
which reminds me, I need to grab some chicken breast and kitchen towels on the way home
 
yeah I edited
 
I also have rice
And pasta
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus Do you have ketchup?
 
Not anymore :(
 
Xeo
2:50 PM
sigh
 
It'd be in the fridge duh
 
Xeo
right
 
@CatPlusPlus Enough for a meal all by itself--at least according to my wife.
 
I ate pasta with ketchup once
 
Xeo
@JerryCoffin If you have the right spices, rice can be damn delicious
 
2:51 PM
Rice only with sauce, otherwise too dry
 
Xeo
@CatPlusPlus I'd have suggested omurice - rice mixed with ketchup, and omelette on top
 
is that a jap recipe?
sounds like jap
 
Could make rice with milk
 
@Xeo I'm fine with rice without spices (especially Basmati rice). I don't consider it quite the staple my wife does though.
 
There's no specification. Using pattern matching makes it clear where the holes in the specification are. Those holes could be filled with Either or Maybe. — Don Stewart 13 mins ago
 
2:52 PM
aka pour milk over rice
 
oh oh dons replied to my comment omg omg
@CatPlusPlus uh
 
I should restock on corn flakes
My kitchen is underequipped
 
Xeo
Your fridge is underequopped
No fuck it, that typo stays
 
That too
 
rice with milk is actually tasty if prepared right
you need more than rice + milk I think
 
2:54 PM
So
 
Xeo
@AlexM. Rice pudding is literally "milk rice" in German
 
JS/CSS to hide blanks between posts introduced by plonks
 
@AlexM. Mostly eaten that with just sugar or salt added
 
Xeo
Milk + noodles can also be good
 
2:54 PM
actually I think I'll request that on meta because why not
 
the result should be pudding-y
 
featreq replace hiding with "(POST HIDDEN IDIOT DETECTED)"
 
some people also add cinnamon
 
And make it a room setting
 
Xeo
mmm, cinnamon + sugar
 
2:56 PM
@Xeo :S I like rice.
 
I should get something to measure weights in the kitchen
unwrapping 40 sugar packets meant for coffee for a choco cake gets tiresome
 
I need to get a second cutting board for raw meat
And more tools
 
> Vevo is currently available in Australia, Brazil, Canada, France, Germany, Ireland, Italy, Mexico, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Poland, Spain, the United Kingdom, and the United States.[18]
They're lying to me!
 
Or your IP is lying to them
 
Everyone in those countries always complains about the stupid videos not being available.
 
2:59 PM
@Rapptz or a Vevo employee is laughing at your pain right now
 

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