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user3010322
12:01 AM
So, in VS you can configure the ObjectFileName to be something other than $(FileName)
 
user3010322
So I now have it set to $(IntDir)\$(RelativeDir)($FileName)
 
user3010322
Which is good because there's no more of that collision bullshit.
 
user3010322
I'm also going to HAVE to keep Harfbuzz as one of my own repos.
 
user1646075
@Borgleader nerd-girls like nerd-boys...
 
12:05 AM
What a sad, sad story.
Hit me right in the feels.
 
user1646075
heh
 
user1646075
sads and feels. Life is miseries
 
That comic could be a movie.
 
user1646075
@Nooble hmmmm - i think it's been done...
 
The whole prologue would be that, as the camera slowly pans away while coffee guy walks out the store.
 
user1646075
12:08 AM
@Nooble would be a very short movie - since that's usually the end of it.
 
@aclarke Good point.
@aclarke that's one sad ending.
 
user1646075
awwwwww.
 
Bookmarking it for possible movie director career
Totally possible.
Just thought about a possible plot. Imagine if him and her used to be together but in a freak accident they both get into a car crash and both suffer from amnesia.
 
user1646075
damn, i had a crashes
 
user1646075
12:23 AM
@Borgleader nice. Feel the fear, feel the terror, do it anyway. There's probably a Courage Wolf of Great Wisdom that applies here.
 
user1646075
or just chill the fuck out. Be the Prize.
 
user1646075
must try that one day...
 
doc
@Nooble but dark theme uses more electricty on LCD :P (measurable amounts)
 
user1646075
@doc thought i was the only one OCD enough to care about that. What a relief.
 
doc
@aclarke yeah save the planet XP
 
user1646075
12:31 AM
thinking more of my own battery life. Fuck the planet. Oh, too late.
 
doc
@aclarke why not using power supply?
 
user1646075
no power point in the back yard, no power point in the office loo (no, joking) ...
 
doc
@aclarke fuck the battery, fuck the planet, fuck all :P
 
user3010322
Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhh
 
doc
@aclarke this ofice must be green one :o
 
user3010322
12:34 AM
Now we're cookin'.
 
user3010322
Now I just need fontconfig for Fallback Fonts
 
user1646075
i feel predicate logic would be more accessible to young people if it had a fuckall operator along with all
 
@ThePhD Why are you making meth D:
 
doc
@aclarke fuck logic
 
user3010322
@Borgleader Because Crystal Unicode Meth is the best.
 
user1646075
12:35 AM
heh - and a whateva operator to balance exists
 
doc
@aclarke fuck operators
 
user1646075
is that like, phone operators?
 
doc
but still we need someone to fuck, thus can't fuck all by axiom
 
user1646075
unless you don't know how to catch pokemon
 
doc
@aclarke ISPs
@aclarke there's manual above
 
user1646075
12:37 AM
if you don't read the manual, you will end up doing it manually.
 
doc
@aclarke I always read the manual and EULA!
@aclarke and README and LICENSE and
 
user1646075
@doc looking for loophoes? <=== accidentally typed it, then thought it was better left
 
doc
not only because of loopholes
 
user1646075
loopholes
 
user1646075
goddamn - my goddamn keyboard has crumbs or cat hairs in it...
 
user1646075
12:40 AM
fuck keyboards!
 
doc
lol
yep sure, for example Autocad EULA sucks a lot
not only because of loopholes
they pretend to investigate your house/office
 
user1646075
??
 
doc
thye pretend to investigate your house/office to check if your usig legal copies of Autocad
 
Holy crap
 
doc
if you accept license, then you agree that they can make a visit)
 
user1646075
12:42 AM
the big companies do - never worked at a place that was audited by microshaft?
 
Just got an email from TWC, they're upgrading my internet to 300/50
#3Good5You
 
doc
@aclarke never, cause we tend to not agree to such shit
 
user1646075
@doc heh - not my call, but in yer typical medium to big place with bulk licences for Office software etc, it can and does happen. on a schedule i feel
 
user1646075
luckily they seem too stupid to discover VM's on linux hosts
 
Woah, was afk for a while, just noticed @doc's comment. Dark theme uses more battery life?
 
doc
12:44 AM
@aclarke lol
 
Did not know this.
 
doc
@Nooble yep, I was measuring it myself on several LCDs
 
user1646075
@doc yeah, using the 2nd screen plugged in as the monitor
 
You just decided one day, "Hey, I'm going to go measure my LCD's power draw"?
 
doc
@Nooble this is how LCD screens work
 
12:46 AM
It takes more power to get darker colors?
 
user1646075
is it possible to use the main laptop screen, the VGA AAANNDDD the HDMI for 3 screens?
 
I thought it would be the opposite.
 
user1646075
it's a power race. Wish I could add another graphics card for 4 screens on the lappy
 
doc
@Nooble yep, its because actually what LCD does is that it blocks backlit
 
user1646075
some guy here has 4 and the rest of us were like, Game On.
 
12:48 AM
I guess I learned something today.
You would think they would just be able to turn off a pixel for dark colors.
 
doc
@Nooble LCD consists of some light source and a screen made of liquid crystals
 
user1646075
then again, smarter displays dim the backlighting in sections as areas get dark - YMMV
 
doc
@Nooble to generate black you must twist those liquid crystals so that they block the light from the background
 
Ahh
 
doc
@Nooble and it actually uses power to keep them in that position
 
user1646075
12:49 AM
@doc they need to do a Prius - recover the energy into the batteries as they untwist.
 
doc
@aclarke lol
 
I guess they also block certain RGB values to produce other colors?
 
doc
@aclarke patent this )
 
@aclarke seriously do it.
 
doc
@Nooble yep, screen is made of tiny RGB blocks
 
user1646075
12:50 AM
@doc yeah, written on toilet paper, delivered in a brown paper bag wrapped in 50 metres of tape, and "TOP SECRET DO NOT READ" in big red texta letters
 
@aclarke Yeah but the might pull a Tesla and make it cost $300000
 
doc
@aclarke :P
@aclarke true, but cheap ones do not
 
Did you mean to tag me or...?
 
Hmm, it's about time I wrote another article. Any requests?
 
doc
@Nooble this is true for very expensive displays.
 
user1646075
12:53 AM
I want to see superfast e-paper displays, so i can watch movies in glorious 16 shades of grey
 
If I could stay that I would
 
@OMGtechy Heh
 
Star*
 
@aclarke or read 50 shades of gray.
 
@Nobble you have a request? :D
 
doc
12:54 AM
@aclarke lol but e-paper is not bad tho
 
user1646075
watch it in 16 shades - that would be the abridged version
 
user1646075
@doc i have one, and it's great for reading in odd places especially with too much sunlight - probably they don't sell many in England. Also rarely needs charging, so i like it a lot.
 
@OMGtechy Not progamming related ones.
 
-wait you're Nooble not Nobble.
Oops. And ok
 
doc
@aclarke yep these are pros of e-paper
 
12:56 AM
I was tempted to say "Write something about cake and other delicious food!"
 
user1646075
running it at high speed might invalidate the power saving claims......
 
You know, 'cause why not.
 
Mmm food
Cereal ftw
 
doc
@aclarke probably
 
Cereal for Breakfast, lunch and dinner
 
user1646075
12:57 AM
write an article about people who hate most interesting foods. I'm sure you've met some.
 
Write a short story based on this
 
doc
@aclarke cereals are fukin interesting)
 
And make it a cheesy, predictable one.
 
user1646075
I'm currently messing with the head of someone like that in my office. Great Fun. Offered them a pepita spread sandwich yesterday.
 
@OMGtechy write a̶n̶ ̶a̶r̶t̶i̶c̶l̶e̶ ̶a̶b̶o̶u̶t̶ ̶y̶o̶u̶r̶ ̶l̶i̶f̶e̶ a memoir.
 
doc
1:02 AM
@aclarke what other foods are interesting?
 
@Borgleader Yes.
 
user1646075
@doc welllll, not to her: cheese, olives, avocado, ham
 
user1646075
what else...
 
possibly my favority
 
user1646075
1:03 AM
that fishy/salty japanese miso soup
 
doc
@aclarke jaffa cakes
beans
 
user1646075
no, that would be ok
 
user1646075
oh yeah, baked beans
 
user1646075
salmon, tuna
 
user1646075
mustard
 
user1646075
1:05 AM
i should make a super-salad of all these things and leave it on her desk
 
doc
@aclarke :P
 
Banana sandwiches, chocolate croissants.
 
user1646075
getting hungry now!
 
Then why not eat.
Eating is good for you!
 
user1646075
ewww - foods
 
1:09 AM
u wot m8
Food is #!
1
 
user1646075
have you been following this?
 
doc
Sleep #0
 
Food is smittywerbenyeagermanjensen
 
doc
Sleep is more important and sweet
 
user1646075
what i need is another idea of something that will get a bad reaction
 
1:09 AM
Who needs sleep when you have cofee!
 
doc
@aclarke u evil :(
 
@aclarke Anything that gives bad reactions?
 
user1646075
i know, local supermarket sells rare roast beef like a ham - bundled in a thick plastic shrinkwrap
 
doc
@Nooble coffee? I would sleep even on meth, this stuff is not working on me :(
 
user1646075
@Nooble a bad reaction to a food reactionary. ie most ordinary foods....
 
doc
1:11 AM
@Nooble usually i feel more asleep with each cup of coffee
 
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@doc for some people, caffeine stimulates the sleep centres
 
Well, to be fair, I don't even drink coffee. I just naturally always feel awake. Because I always lurk on the internet.
 
doc
@aclarke I must be affected :/
 
@Nooble Sleep is a disease caused by caffeine deficiency.
 
Yep
 
doc
1:11 AM
@Nooble porn? :P
 
@doc Lulz
No.
Just reddit
 
user1646075
not Lulz, moanz
 
Hmm, it doesnt seem to show my age on my profile.
Seems better this way.
 
doc
@Nooble yes, you need 18 or 16 to watch porn in most countries :)
 
I'm below both ages.
 
1:14 AM
@Nooble You have no age. We took your birthday away for being annoying (or something).
 
doc
@Nooble LOL
 
If you take my bir
thday away
I'll be sad.
And when I'm sad.
Nothing happens.
And when nothing happens
Something happens.
And when something happens
 
doc
@Nooble you watch porn)
sorry for interrupting :/
 
@doc Shure I do.
 
doc
@Nooble but without birthady it's better
 
1:16 AM
@doc please not sarcastic "shure"
If no birthday then birthday everyday
 
doc
@Nooble not sarcastic!
 
@doc Shure.
 
doc
@Nooble meh
 
@Nooble To reply to a message, click the arrow at the right side of the message you're replying to.
 
doc
@Nooble don't want to make you sad rly
 
1:17 AM
does anyone here know any good info on comiler / interpreter making ?
 
@doc You better not.
 
doc
@JerryCoffin or install this fancy plugin, much easier with it
 
@daniel Why make one?
 
doc
@JerryCoffin how is it called? (this plugin)
 
Guys I'm 4 years old. There, I said it.
 
1:18 AM
i just want to learn about it.
 
Turning 5 this summer.
 
doc
@Nooble I believe you
 
@Nooble Cool--me too. Of course, mine is 4 Pluto-years.
 
I'm 17 years old, just turned 17 sep 4
 
user1646075
@daniel the internets?
 
doc
1:19 AM
@daniel noooooob
:P
 
@doc ???????????
 
@doc I'm not sure what plugin you're talking about.
 
doc
@daniel yougster that is
 
But what If I'm... say... 14. Does that make me more of a noob?
A nooble perhaps?
 
user1646075
@doc a noob by the law of nature
 
doc
1:19 AM
@JerryCoffin for firefox etc, sec I can check
 
@aclarke i know i could just look it up on google, i just was woundering if you guys knew any where that had good documentation.
like a good book, website, etc.
 
@daniel Why do you need to make a compiler?
@daniel There are plenty of good ones.
 
user1646075
@Nooble for fun of course
 
1:21 AM
That cannot possibly be fun.
 
What is it
 
@Nooble i know i could just use the gcc, or any other open source compiler i just wanted to learn about the subgect.
 
doc
@Nooble plugin which makes life with this chat easier
not trojan...
 
Fancy
 
1:22 AM
*subject
 
@doc Lol
 
doc
;P
 
@doc They need that warning on every piece of software made.
 
doc
@Nooble yes I would feel more secure if virus would aware me that it's virus)
 
@doc Please spread the word to all virus makers.
 
doc
1:24 AM
@Nooble should open dialog llike "do you want install this virus?"
 
@doc We need that disclaimer.
 
doc
:P
 
user1646075
@daniel there's a shit-load of books out there, very not hard to find.
 
You can't be that obvious. The user has to install something and check "Express Settings"
 
doc
you mean custom instalation?
 
1:25 AM
Would you like a free virus?
 
doc
@Nooble GPL license!
:P
 
lel
MIT License and keep it open source.
 
doc
@Nooble man but there's no Open Source Virus yet!
 
user1646075
 
doc
this is brilliant idea :D
 
1:26 AM
Yeah.
 
doc
at least I haven't heard about one
 
@aclarke "Garbage Collection: A guide to getting rid of your Java codebase."
 
Name it as notavirus.exe
 
user1646075
@Borgleader hah!
 
doc
what about FreeVirus :P
 
1:27 AM
NortonVirus
 
doc
Norton antivirus is worst virus ever made
 
People will soon start installing viruses to get rid of anti viruses
 
user1646075
ever notice how AV software manages to cripple your machine almost as much as a virus/
 
doc
cant get rid of it from the system once installed
 
@aclarke ikr
Run as system service.
 
doc
1:28 AM
@aclarke yep and try to listen packets to some antivir soft, they tend to route your traffic to their servers
 
Now that I think about it, we're thinking exactly like Anti-Virus makers.
 
doc
@doc it's like they listen to all of your traffic
@Nooble :P
@Nooble LOL
 
user1646075
@doc easy to stop that one - wrap tinfoil around your machine
 
Yeah
why not close all ports
hue
 
doc
@aclarke :P or cut cables)
Time to sleep....
 
1:31 AM
@aclarke Much like "inflammable" is really a synonym for "flammable" and "invaluable" is a synonym for "valuable", so too "anti-virus" is really a synonym for "virus".
 
doc
Care for your viruses and treat them well
cya guys
 
user1646075
hey, contributing to a spam farm is good for the economy,
 
user1646075
ciao for niao
 
user1646075
@JerryCoffin and "easy to assemble" ....
 
Yep, got to go to.
Cya guys
 
1:33 AM
@aclarke I used to find assembly (language) quite easy.
 
ugh
fucking ODR and static members
 
@Rapptz ODR and fucking static members.
 
user1646075
Jerry, your name rings a big bell. have we met on a mailing list or something?
 
user1646075
some years ago i feel
 
user1646075
@Rapptz fucking anything static is uggghh
 
1:35 AM
man I hate this stupid thing so much
static members are like my top annoyance in C++
 
@aclarke Hard for me to guess--I've been around on Usenet, Fidonet, and a few of the other old BBS networks since...ummm...a long time ago.
 
user1646075
yeah. Databases? favourite languages? the ksh mailing list for example?
 
user1646075
that was a place for Seriousness...
 
user1646075
alt.rec.brewing?
 
@aclarke Haven't done mailing lists as such much. Languages--mostly C, C++, at times some Lisp, etc.
 
user1646075
1:37 AM
Icon and/or Unicon? 4GL?
 
@aclarke No--even I'm not enough of a troll to go there. Have done Icon/Unicon at times, but not much time on newsgroups and such about them.
 
user1646075
might be there then. the mailing list had little traffic
 
@aclarke Possible, I guess.
 
user1646075
meh!
 
how would you go about displaying a game window inside parent window like unreal or unity does.
 
user1646075
1:39 AM
i haven't used it professionally for about 5 years now. feelign the loss
 
i making my game engine and am trying to figure out how to display my game inside editor window, just cant figure out how )=
 
user1646075
@daniel MDI possibly?
 
@daniel Typically it's just a window that you move to the right size/location (and when/if the parent moves, you update the "child" position/size to match).
 
ok, i think I'm starting to get it, thanks guys for the help, its just a large thing to take in when you know little on the subject, the MDI is definitely something good to know (=
 
@daniel MDI is for pieces of the same program. If you need to display more than just the output window (e.g., add "stuff" the parent's menu entries) you can use COM, at least on Windows.
 
user1646075
1:45 AM
not sure if MDI is fashionable any more, or 'deprecated' (hurlll - hate that word)
 
@aclarke MS sort of preaches against it, but not very strongly.
 
user1646075
@JerryCoffin i think it's slightly embarrassing, because it was inbuilt support for just one style of window management
 
More accurately, they advise that it can be complex, so you may want to consider alternatives like SDI or multiple top-level windows.
 
user1646075
emmm
 
user1646075
tiles, what the world needs is tiles.
 
1:47 AM
@aclarke I find it pretty useful in quite a few programs I use, but...
@aclarke Why yes--we did need to get Windows 8 to do its best to imitation Windows 1.0...
 
user1646075
ok, so still gets used. I've noticed word and excel are long gone from that. And don't get me started on the ribbon...
 
@JerryCoffin i think what ill do is try like you said, if the game is opened using the play button in the editor it will open the game window and make it as if it were a child of a parent window (e.g. the editor window) with out it ever being a child window, and just update position every time editor window is moved or resized.
 
user1646075
@JerryCoffin remember Digital Research's GEM ???
 
user1646075
we could be bitching about that instead of Windoze if only for....
 
also just putting this out there for anyone who cares, if you wish to help me with this engine your more than welcomed to, if you wish to know more about it i will be finished with the website in a few day's i just have not had the time to fish the website lately because of working on this engine, but the website url is my company's website darkedgesoftwares.com, this is where i will be posting all projects, games, libraries, and source code.
 
2:00 AM
still beats fat equestrian
 
@JerryCoffin would you be interested in helping with the creation of a awesome game engine???, I'm not asking for all your time but maybe you could contribute to it a little?
 
@daniel This site is under development
good job!
 
2:16 AM
@aclarke I remember GEM, but never wrote code for it.
 
@chmod711telkitty thats the default page that comes with the site i will update it soon (=
 
@daniel If you ask questions on SO, I might try to answer some, but I doubt I can do much more than that.
 
@JerryCoffin k, anything helps (=
 
3:12 AM
Well, I can now say that I have seen Chase & Status DJ live, and that I've been to the famous Amnesia club in Ibiza. I also don't particularly care about these things.
Pool party at Ocean Beach tomorrow... that's more like it.
feels like I've been on holiday for years though
 
user1646075
@chmod711telkitty beats not trying too
 
Swimming pool party or billiard pool party, or perhaps billiards in a swimming pool?
 
user1646075
@LightnessRacesinOrbit was the Embarrassing Bodies bus there?
 
not that I saw
 
user1646075
lurve their work in holiday destinations, freaking out the lads and ladettes
 
3:16 AM
swimming
 
user1646075
they're coming to australia - so excited!
 
ahhhh now I know what your first initial stands for
you are Australian Clarke
 
user1646075
i'll have to develop something gross so i can be on the show
 
user1646075
oh could be! I like that
 
being a regular in the Lounge is a damn good start tbh
 
user1646075
3:17 AM
AC Lark model E - a vacuum cleaner
 
user1646075
@LightnessRacesinOrbit heh - good call
 
user1646075
oh you
 
user1646075
umm, who's there?
 
3:18 AM
the number you have dialled has not been recognised
please hang up and try again
NO CARRIER
think i'll go with just the one pillow tonight
just so's you know
toodle pip
 
user1646075
sweet dreams
 
user1646075
cheerio what!
 
3:32 AM
Can I ask a question about a unix call here?
 
user1646075
@ZachSaucier you can always ask, but if the daytime shift was here you'd probably get beaten up. The rest of us are just janitorial staff
 
so... no xD
 
user1646075
personally I don't mind, but i don't want to encourage a world-view that it's acceptable. This is a socialist chat room
 
@aclarke where in sydney do you live?
 
user1646075
3:39 AM
the great wasteland of the south-west. Should never have settled there.... to many road-raging young idiots etc
 
haha. I ask because my family in laws live there
 
Plenty of non-cane toad wildlife in the southwest still though... found that out the hard way
 
got to visit one time :P
 
user1646075
cane toads havben't reached sydney yet - that I know of
 
(Not actual firsthand knowledge... I asked aclarke about it)
They're mainly east coast as I understand, and some north
 
user1646075
3:40 AM
north-east tropical - tropic of capricorn line and above originally
 
user1646075
/note to self; get the hemisphere right...
 
By above, you do mean north, right?
 
user1646075
actually, looking at teh map now, a bit below to origianlly,
 
user1646075
over most of queensland and apparently heading west into Northern territorry and south to NSW
 
user1646075
never seen one in person (assuming it's a trapped princess)
 
3:45 AM
@aclarke so true :)
 
user1646075
@chmod711telkitty not a personal pic I hope - if so, the building work will help heaps
 
user1646075
so good on ya!
 
user1646075
are you on a 15 minute break between walls?
 
user1646075
@chmod711telkitty i just noticed - is it a bad joke putting -thumb on that filename?
 
4:03 AM
When it explodes, it will cast off its outer layers, leaving behind nothing but a slowly fading PalmPilot, calculator, or two-way pager.
3
 
 
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5:48 AM
@aclarke lol
i have almost finished designing the Runtime of my game engine
 

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