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8:00 PM
@Jefffrey It will be better because there won't be any meanies there!
 
I have some features that are untested because I coded them before I started doing testing
but most of my features are tested
 
ergh... system upgrade on pi is sooo slow
 
and by "tested" I mean "I threw a couple cases at it".
 
Wordpad can open docx files, thanks Microsoft
 
never mind standards. metrics is what we want. lots of metrics. then we can be sure how well we're doing our job
 
user3010322
8:03 PM
My wordpad no longer works anymore.
 
user3010322
:(
 
user3010322
Makes me so sad.
 
@thecoshman Burn new image on your PC and then just update the card :v
 
Wow TIL never to talk in 4 chat/forums at the same time. I feel like an idiot with what I just said...abandon room
 
we have more metrics in our team than the other teams in the department, so that must mean we're doing more and better, right?
 
8:04 PM
also, this is an awesome oldie: youtube.com/watch?v=w2loAlaonqQ
@ThePhD I'm sorry for your loss :(
@CatPlusPlus you were right, I ended up doing all the work myself while the team slacked off
 
@CatPlusPlus have shit partial set up though, that and already kicked it off
 
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@melak47 Even sent me his wordpad it still doesn't work.
 
@AlexM. :lol:
 
but hey, I still don't have to take an exam so it's all worth it
 
and burning the image takes ages any way
 
user3010322
8:05 PM
@AlexM. Figures.
 
user3010322
I'd rather die than be in a group project.
 
I had to
final group project = no written exam, autopass
 
user1804599
@AlexM. same in my case at school, except I was the one who slacked off.
 
@ThePhD Run SFC :v
 
user3010322
@CatPlusPlus I did. Reported no problems. ;~;
 
8:06 PM
How does it not work then
 
user1804599
I was assigned to write the server for our Android app project. I wrote a server in Python in one night but I pretended it took two weeks.
 
user1804599
So my work was done quickly. (Y)
 
Maybe you have PATH screwed up, or something injects some shit into it
 
user3010322
It comes up, and then it just explodes after 30 seconds.
 
user3010322
After the first 30 second explosion, it keeps dying immediately upon opening.
 
8:07 PM
your windows is broken
reinstall
 
Xeo
@ThePhD you just have to be in the right group
 
There are no right groups in uni
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Xeo
never had trouble with the group projects at the GA
 
@melak47 is that to anyone in particular, or generally to anyone with Windows?
 
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@CatPlusPlus Have a star.
 
8:08 PM
@ClickRick it was aimed at @ThePhD :p
 
just checking :p
 
user3010322
@Xeo All of you know what you're there for and the material is exciting. Compare that to other Uni courses, and you have a recipe for disaster...
 
ok
 
@melak47 don't use makefiles
 
what do I use :D
 
8:12 PM
@melak47 ninja, scons, premake
fuck, CMake if you have to.
 
Premake is shit
Just use ninja
CMake can generate ninja descriptors
 
user3010322
I'm going to work on a ninja-specific meta build system.
 
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It's going to be essentially what I'd want in a Project File Format for an IDE.
 
I've started that, was too boring
 
^
I remember thinking that a good thing like this would solve all my problems
but until C++ gets modules, building it is going to be complete shit
regardless.
 
user3010322
8:20 PM
I know it won't solve all my problems until I build a Visual Studio Extension to finish it off.
 
most of us probably thought that about regexes at some point too
 
Not really
 
@ClickRick adding an extension to VS to solve problems sounds awfully alike this regex joke alright
 
user3010322
Well, at the core, the problem with Visual Studio is 2 things:
 
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[1] Shit-mode Debugger
[2] Shit-mode Compiler
 
user3010322
8:22 PM
The problem is, it's hard to just sub out the pieces. ESPECIALLY when it comes to [1].
 
[3] Everything else
 
user3010322
So, you have to rebuild everything from scratch....
 
user3010322
thing is, I have no intention of rebuilding a whole IDE.
 
there's a saying in polish
> Z gówna bata nie ukręcisz.
which I guess Cat would like in this context
 
@ThePhD so start from a base like Eclipse....
(ducks and runs)
 
8:23 PM
@ClickRick lol like that solves anything
 
Never heard of that, must be north thing
 
arr northling rulez.
Well I guess it has shitload of idiomatic translations.
 
> Le reddit armie is hear!
 
We could use a good OSS IDE base
Emacs but with better text editor :v
 
user3010322
Haha.
 
8:26 PM
I know I won't finish anything, so I'm not even trying
 
user3010322
Well, the only OSS IDE I know of are TextMate (older version they released, not sure how legal it is to take it and use it), Vim, Emacs, Eclipse, and QtCreator (I think?)
 
TextMate is not really an IDE
 
user3010322
However, there's also several editors which have plugin systems (Eclipse, Sublime Text 2/3, Vim, Emacs, Visual Studio).
 
user1804599
NetBeans.
 
user3010322
There's also NetBeans and Code::Blocks.
 
8:27 PM
Vim needs a new core
 
user3010322
Code::Blocks does everything through wx::Widgets. I have no inclination of dipping my hands into NetBeans.
 
user3010322
Sublime Text 2/3 seems easy to write a plugin for, and @Rapptz has already written plugins for Sublime Text.
 
ninja fails when there's no newline at the end of the build file :v
 
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@melak47 Something a generator can take care of easily.
 
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I have minimal experience writing Visual Studio Extensions, but for what we want to do it's going to be a LOT of pain (re-writing the debugger is a lot more low-level than your usual text editor extension).
 
8:29 PM
@CatPlusPlus It does?
 
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QtCreator, no idea what it takes to make a plugin that affects such a large part of the editor (it's very customizable to use what's already built in -- it has an interface like TeamCity's now that I've dug into it).
 
@Jefffrey Yes
 
@ThePhD wait, who's we, and what is it they want to do?
 
...
 
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@melak47 We being Me, Myself, and I.
 
8:30 PM
@melak47 They meant to be generated
 
@ThePhD Even your usual text editor extensions is a pain.
 
user3010322
I know for a fact, however, that htere is a working, up-to-date tutorial on how to make new Project File Formats for Visual Studio, so if I make a meta-build system around Ninja I can use the file format directly as a Project File.
 
@CatPlusPlus It was a semi-rhetorical question in order to ask for more informations as to why it would need a new core.
 
To get rid of compatibility shit and VimL
It's not a platform for sane people
 
> sane people
 
user3010322
8:38 PM
Hm.
 
ugh
I need an IPX driver for Windows 7 x64
 
Monads as a Design Pattern http://bit.ly/1hmWPJg
I'm scared to click it.
 
Too long, boring
 
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HOW APPROACHABLE.
 
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"We won't do category theory and monad laws, but let's use this completely obscure, really hard example."
 
8:47 PM
I have no interesting things to say and I must blog
 
you know what I haven't done enough of today? Lynched people for being the Mafia.
 
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... And that's it.
 
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My raytracer is p. much done.
 
user3010322
I can cross that off that list.
 
@ThePhD refraction works?
 
user3010322
8:49 PM
@Borgleader S'been working for a while now.
 
@ThePhD I wanna see a cornell box but with your raytracer
^ cornell box
 
Sorry, my cousins called me for help as her pc wouldn't boot. To answer your question about how it will solve problems seen on SO, it will for first change how the vote algorithm works (ever heard of more efficient voting algorithms such as AV?), have a system where you can ignore an user instead of banning him and let other people "follow" your ignore list. There will be no barrier to join (if it was set public by the room owner) and create a chat room.
 
@user3651245 you should accept this answer since it answers your question. If you now have a better question, by all means, file a new one. (Edit and editing the question to completely change it is not a nice thing to do after people have spent time on it) — sehe 1 min ago
 
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@Borgleader Tooooooooo much effort.
 
@ThePhD D: how is it too much effort?
 
8:50 PM
And many other things which will fill 2 pages to write
 
5 planes, 2 spheres and a light source
 
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@Borgleader Just look at that. It's got soft shadows and everything.
 
^^ Another one that could use bit of common sense / social norms
 
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I don't have ambient occlusion and shit. D:
 
The thing is that it's nearly done and not just a concept
 
8:51 PM
@ThePhD i dont care about the shadows, i just want to see this setup rendered with your thing
 
@ThePhD and light bouncing :v
 
Yeah I can see how that solves everything
 
I can't post a link to my project but you can find it on Github
 
Also what's broken is voting not the voting algorithm hth
 
I don't expect you to get this as you're SO brainwashed though
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8:52 PM
:lol:
 
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Mighty Liberator and Genius Inek.
 
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@melak47 ;~: That all sounds so haarrddd.
 
Actually Inek means geek he.. you mangled two words in a strange way
 
Unlike me, who got all the intricacies of a large-scale Q&A system by using it for 10 days
 
@ThePhD Again, all I want to see is 5 planes, 2 spheres and a light source, roughly aranged as above. I just want to see the result, i dont care that it looks like the one above
 
8:53 PM
Better still, all the feature requests can be sent by the community
 
Woah that changes everything
 
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@Borgleader But... but but...
 
You're like 14 aren't you
 
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Buuuuuutttttttttt.... ;~;
 
@Borgleader I can do that
 
user3010322
8:53 PM
Yeah, have Scarlett do it!
 
Believe me, the voting algorithm is what needs to be changed
 
Yeah no
 
There is too much abuse from people who don't have a life unfortunately
 
Technology is not how you solve social issues hth
 
self-abuse, mostly
 
8:54 PM
who's abusing the vote algorithm
 
I'm 21 for your information and a language polyglot, but thank you for pointing that out
It is my friend, it is.
 
Yeah have fun with that
 
sbi
Good evening.
 
user1804599
> language polyglot
 
hi :)
 
user1804599
8:55 PM
lol
 
sbi
Quite some excitement here today, huh?
 
Bivoting doesn't seem to be really efficient
 
You're looking for a different word that starts with ex
 
user1804599
Most people are polyglots. I speak Dutch and English, for example.
 
@sbi I must've missed it :/
 
sbi
8:56 PM
@CatPlusPlus Do not patronize me on Exes. I have more than my share of them.
 
@sbi hey chap, how goes?
 
@rightfold Don't you know that language can refer to other things such as human language?
 
@sbi But how many ex-parrots do you have??
 
@sbi ... what is a share?
 
sbi
@melak47 So did I. But I am not sad about it.
 
8:57 PM
@thecoshman A remote thing you can mount
 
sbi
Some boy who barely passed drinking age brings the room in uproar. You are amateurs.
 
Xeo
@sbi more than your share? did you steal from other people?
 
Who's abusing the vote? Look around and you'll see it
 
sbi
@CatPlusPlus That would be two three, I think. (Do parakeets count as parrots here?) I was talking about others, though.
 
@CatPlusPlus [of exes]
 
sbi
8:58 PM
@thecoshman A piece of paper gaining you money from a company.
 
@sbi of course not
 
sbi
@thecoshman I most certainly was talking of other exes.
 
@İnekŞaban are mean people voting other people down? on no!
 
@sbi hey hey hey! you take that smart talk else where!
 
@melak47 THOSE MEANIES
 
8:59 PM
Lastly, to clear some confusion, my project is not a mere Q&A system
 
@sbi ¬_¬ I was referring to parakeets counting as parrots
 
@melak47 now now, don't be mean
 
The problem is not downvotes, the problem is that everyone's vote is equal, and people voting are not necessarily able to distinguish a good answer/question from a popular one
 
sbi
@thecoshman I pawloved on that one.
 
But yeah YOU'VE SOLVED EVERYTHING by changing ~~the algorithm~~ congratulations
 

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