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12:00 AM
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@rightfold night
 
> It has been suggested mathematically that, because of the huge number of possibilities from shuffling a 52 card deck, it is probable that no two fair card shuffles have ever yielded exactly the same order of cards.
probabilities always seemed to me like saying "hey we don't know about this but let's sort of try to say something about it"
the way Unity displays children of prefabs felt really appropriate in this case
@Mysticial jump in and teach the noob a lesson
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Q: How can I calculate pi to 500,000 iterations using C++?

user3670635I have to write a program which calculates the accuracy of pi to a user's selected level and accuracy. I was told to use the Gregory-Leibniz series to calculate pi if possible. I know the formula for pi would be pi = ((4/1) - (4/3)) + ((4/5) - (4/7)) + ((4/9) - (4/11)) + ((4/13) - (4/15)) ... I f...

 
@AlexM. I just saw that.
I'm laughing right now.
At least the OP wants 500,000 iterations instead of 500,000 digits.
 
look like homework to me
 
Definitely.
I would've done a full double-facepalm with head on the table if someone actually tried to get 500,000 digits using that ArcTan(1) formula.
 
tried to build llvm last night, got a bunch of errors because of compiler version mismatch (since some hadnt changed in the update but last time i compiled it with vs 2010 and now vs 2013)
so i do a clean rebuild, only to get 44k errors
 
12:16 AM
@Borgleader Does LLVM work on Windows yet? The last thing I heard of this was when I was helping Seth Carnegie test this:
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Q: How to compile Clang on Windows

Seth CarnegieI have been trying to find a way to get Clang working on Windows but am having trouble. I get Clang to compile successfully, but when I try to compile a program I have a bunch of errors in the standard headers. I am aware of rubenvb's excellent prebuilt versions of clang, but I want to compile i...

 
@Mysticial IIRC I used to be able to compile it, and then I updated it from SVN recently and am having trouble
 
ah
 
@Jefffrey All negatively voted questions are deleted when the OP's account is deleted.
There doesn't appear to be an exception for those with upvoted answers.
 
Oh I see.
also
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Q: Why did community user delete this meta question where multiple answers had up votes?

George StockerThe following meta question was deleted last night by the Community user. Normally, I wouldn't see an issue with this, but for this particular deletion, I can see three issues: We try not to delete good content There are multiple upvoted answers We often use previous answers on Meta (as well...

 
12:29 AM
it's weird how I like songs that I used to hate years ago, only because they remind me of those times :\
 
12:58 AM
btw, the witcher series has a discount on steam atm
really good RPGs from a developer that doesn't give a shit about today's trends
and just tries to make good games
 
1:14 AM
@AlexM. I played both
theyre awesome, cant wait for 3rd
 
1:26 AM
yup, going to try tw 3 when it comes out too
 
it's nothing to laugh about, I noticed I can't pay attention while paying attention
I must have full HD
painkiller is an amazing game
I pity those who did not play it on max difficulty
it's one of those games in which you realize you can get out of any fight w/o being touched once
if you try hard enough, that is
and when you're left with one hitpoint, you will try hard enough
 
I put it on easy lol
fuck that shit
 
it gets frustrating on trauma, I admit
and I'm basically bunnyhopping 99% of the time
but I can quit at any time and then go back to it
so the frustration doesn't affect me much
I wonder how much harder it will get
I'm at chapter 3 and it's definitely become way too difficult to clear levels w just the painkiller
shit, it's almost 5 am and I'm supposed to go to work today
gotta sleep, cya
 
 
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hi
 
3:45 AM
quiet ...
 
yo...
Star me please.. want to get a new badge. :D
 
4:05 AM
~_~
 
lol
 
:(
Where you guys/girls from?
 
user3010322
I did it.
 
user3010322
I needed to have all grades at C+ or above this semester to recover my GPA from when I had to take medical leave and remain in good standing.
 
user3010322
4:07 AM
I got all A's and B's.
 
user3010322
Suck it, University. Suck it.
 
lol. Yup.. University sucks..
working is better.
Congrats to you by the way.
 
We've already had to deal with a/s/l, @Burhan - folks who repeatedly harass other users for personal contact information tend to find their chatrooms deleted, along with their chat accounts and often main-site accounts. — Shog9 ♦ yesterday
 
Naming a chat room after genitalia is not professional. lol this is funny
 
Tomalak, you me & shog, we can make C++ lounge the most troll infested room on stackoverflow ...
 
4:12 AM
haha.. don't participate chat that much..
I used to code in C++, but now only focus entire on Objective-C.
 
user3010322
@Rapptz HEY I have no such attachment. D:
 
user3010322
I'm going to try going for QtCreator again, but I need to make it into the "I'm able to build some things" stage...
 
user3010322
I have to pick either QMake or CMake, or just write my makefile by hand...
 
If anyone of you have a second, please take a look at my answer: stackoverflow.com/questions/23601206/… If you think the answer is good enough, please help me to upvote. I am just not happy when a second person copied my answer and he got more votes than I am. And he will steal my bounty due to that. Thanks.
 
You don't need help upvoting. In fact, we can't help you, because the system prevents you from upvoting your own posts, and none of us here can change that. Sorry for this information.
@chmod711telkitty You do that all on your own, mate! <3
 
4:23 AM
Yes, I know I can't upvote my own answer. It's ok. Thanks for the information.
 
You are welcome.
 
@Ricky See my profile for more info.
 
I think more people should have found my Shog quote funny. Anyone, actually.
"UKIP ready to conquer Europe"
Subtle, Daily Mirror. Subtle.
 
The only news I get about the UKIP are from LGBT rights related websites, so my view of them is that they're a bunch of homophobic racists.
I'm guessing it's a bit more complicated than that.
 
@EtiennedeMartel You shouldn't call LGBT rights groups "a bunch of homophobic racists". You might get in trouble for that.
 
4:35 AM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You know what I meant.
 
Don't tell me what I know. Check your privilege. Etc.
Oh god you know I don't care any more when I can't even be bothered to properly troll the Lounge sigh
 
The "homophobic racists" part refered to the UKIP.
 
I can do this, though:
Please state the nature of the "can't be bothered" emergency. — Lightness Races in Orbit 8 secs ago
 
php multi-array looks like json :(
 
4:52 AM
sky is blue
your turn
 
tomato is red
 
Id like to just give C++ a try today. Is the website cplusplus.com a decent enough reference for that?
 
Reference, yes.
Forums, no.
 
Also alcohol and empty stomach don't mix very well
 
Tutorials, if you read a good book first.
 
5:17 AM
@CatPlusPlus as long as you don't drink too much
 
The most important thing is that you don't think of it as "the C++ website". You seem to get that already, so, no problem.
@CatPlusPlus Lightweight.
 
4 beers killed me
Ugh
 
I drove 500 miles today, didn't have any food, then went out for 8 hours, ran into my ex from last year, found out she's been with the guy she ran off with since.... and I'm still here bantering in the Lounge
so basically stfu
children
 
Well you shouldn't drink
I need to eat something
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I see it as the w3schools.com of C++. You might not get that if you arent familiar with JavaScript. But that site is named to get a lot of traffic because people associate it with the World Wide Web Consortium even tho their references are very poor.
 
5:25 AM
Correct.
100%
FWIW I am very familiar with JavaScript.
Why, just today, I found a critical bug with jqPlot relating to the place during initialisation where they choose to perform an unstable sort. Notably, after plugin initialisation.
 
Hey your picture is actually the one from the blogger that said the website it bad. Same guy?
 
Actually
I found the image in the comments
So mb you just commented if at all.
 
Hehe alright, neat.
 
5:28 AM
That fit piece of ass is me
 
haha
 
FWIW I feel a lot less strongly about cplusplus.com now than I did then
as my previous message here may suggest
 
Yeah. I mean I only want to play around with it today. I don't have time at the moment to invest a lot of time in c++. So I just wanted to try some basics.
 
Anyway, bet you weren't expecting that. I'm everywhere, man.
 
Btw. What do you think of asm.js? Or are you more into the NaCL ?
^^
 
5:30 AM
Never heard of either.
I program in JavaScript; I'm not a "fanboy" in on the latest fads :)
 
asm.js is the Mozilla subset of JavaScript that gets AOT compiled.
And Googles answer is their native client. Which just lets you run things like c++ in a plugin sandbox afaik.
 
That's the weirdest chips ad I have ever seen.
 
They're called "crisps".
 
Yeah.. I wasn't sure which one to pick..
 
6:01 AM
@Schoening asm.js is what is outputted by Emscripten. So I guess it's good.
 
It's certainly neat to have the option :) So that something like the Unreal Engine can be ported over. Instead of them re-writing their entire engine in JS (which would probably never happen)
 
That's what we're planning to use for porting our engine to HTML5.
 
Nice :) Chrome V8 engine is also "optimizing" for asm.js now. Not doing AOT, but some performance improvements in their JIT compiler.
I don't know why. But the unreal engine demo was taken down :/
Now they display a clone of flappy bird instead.
 
Howdy. I'm stumped on a particular problem, and I'm wondering if I should ask here, on SO, on Programmers, or on Superuser.
It's a bit of a cross between the last three, but I feel like it doesn't quite fit within the scope of any of them.
 
6:15 AM
Generally you just ask in these kind of rooms and if people ignore you, you move on. Asking, can I ask a question is a bit redundant usually.
 
(I am aware. I'm trying to type the frame rest of it up :))
I'm trying to debug a GDI leak that's likely caused by a third party component being injected into Windows Explorer -- the gotcha is that I'm seeing vastly inconsistent information, so I want to understand a little bit more about it: Task Manager thinks that there are a huge number of GDI handles and objects being allocated to Explorer, but upon dumping the GDI handle table, there are only a few objects.
Using GDIView, I only see a handful (~15) of GDI objects; using GdiEnum (upvote for the answer that provided the source) shows a similar count.
It's fairly clear that Explorer is indeed leaking ~10k GDI handles, though, as the catastrophic graphical glitches start manifesting in Explorer when Task Manager shows 10k GDI objects (handles?).
So for the sake of my curiosity, what are those not-displayed GDI handles that are being leaked? (While it's not really a programming question, SO feels like the right domain.)
And is there a good strategy to track these allocations? (SU-like question.) Normally, my strategy for this would be to hook up a debugger and set up breakpoints for entry points that allocate -- but that's clearly not going to work here, since I don't even know what the allocated-but-invisible GDI objects (handles?) are.
 
7:09 AM
@EtiennedeMartel Speaking of your profile you're linking to the old wiki scrub
Also that autounpinning is dumb and annoying
 
Hello, World!
How goes it on the other side of the pond?
 
not sure ... I went to the edge of the pond, I met a frog
 
or was it your reflection?
=p
 
I am not a frog ~_~
 
says you
 
7:13 AM
I am an aggressive magpie in disguise ...
 
in a frog disguise?
 
gribbit...caw...caw...gribbit
 
speaking of the damn magpies, they managed to unplug a few feather off one of my chooks a few days ago
 
What's a chook?
 
You mean a chicken?
 
little bastards only come to attack the chickens when no one is around outside or at least when you are not lookiing in the direction
when you see them, they pretend nothing is happening - they walk around as if they are good neighbourhood birdies and only interested in the foraging in the backyard
as soon as you turn your back around, they start swooping the chickens
 
7:56 AM
morning
 
8:12 AM
Morning, @DeadMG
 
8:30 AM
Word of the day: demisemihemidemisemiquaver
 
you made that up
 
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Q: C# & C++ is it the same code?

BiggerWhat's the difference between C# and C++? When you are programming writing code is it the same code with C# and C++? Can I translate the code in C# to C++ and will it be the same app? I mean are they the same or what's the difference in their syntax if you want to call any methods or are they t...

:D
 
@Code-Guru Google it
 
If I tell you I enjoy rewriting my own app from objective c to java while drinking pink bubbly, does it mean 1) I like coding 2) I know how to enjoy life or 3) I am an alcoholic?
or maybe all 3 of them >_<
 
Xeo
mornin
 
8:37 AM
@chmod711telkitty Depends on whether Java sucks more or less than Objective C.
I have never written any Objective C code, so I wouldn't know.
 
objective c sucks ... almost on par with c
 
C is a fine language for the kind of software its creators had in mind.
 
hmm...nothing very definitive on google =p
 
IMHO, Java is almost as cool as C++ & slightly better than C#
& I like pink bubbly :D
 
It's neither Valentine's day nor New Year's Eve. Why are you drinking that crap?
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow lol
 
9:02 AM
morning
 
user1804599
@FredOverflow IMO Objective-C sucks less than Java.
 
user1804599
Mainly because it’s more dynamic.
 
user1804599
And has properties and simpler introspection.
 
Yes. That's what i wanted. But the number of values in the vector is dynamic that is what that's making me crazy. — Joel Seah 1 min ago
Why am I answering questions again
 
because yoo suck
 
9:17 AM
@FredOverflow hey, I am a chick, I am entitled to like pink bubbly!
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Got a link to a pic of your monitor setup quickly?
 
my mom asked me how much I get to apply what I learned at uni at my new job. I almost laughed, then I almost got sad :/
 
Xeo
haha
 
on the other hand...if I did get to apply my uni knowledge...that'd mean Java, C, assembly and math :E
 
user1804599
If I would get to apply my uni knowledge that’d mean Java and UML. Lots of UML.
 
user1804599
9:26 AM
And Scrum. Lots of Scrum.
 
@melak47 Obviously, your mom never went to uni, else she would know the, (rather sad), answer already.
 
:)
 
I guess that 'essentially, fuck all' does not go down well if they have spent €€€€€ getting you throught colleges.
 
I think a good degree from a good uni does not necessarily teach you the exact knowledge you need at a work place, but it teaches you how to learn, a systematic way to analyse and solve problems.
because life is more than work :p
 
@chmod711telkitty Life is also more than uni. I wast... spent 3 years of my life so that I can occasionally use ohm's law.
 
user1804599
9:30 AM
Speaking of Ohm’s law.
 
user1804599
I’m gonna learn more linear algebra.
 
OK, there was beer and girls, but I could have had that outside uni too.
 
I spent 5 years (engineering & commerce degrees and a postgrad in business). I used very little of the knowledge I learnt during that period at my past workplaces. It helped me greatly in other things: i.e. share trading on my own account, speculating on the property market ... even using solar charger on bushwalking/hiking trips, disputing a parking ticket in court
 
hmm
it's probably a bad sign that I get different failures from this test when executing it under the debugger..
 
Why is it so hard to find a LibreOffice Impress theme for programming presentations? The best I could come up with is this:
And that theme already came with LibreOffice.
 
9:49 AM
my slides are always black text on white background with only relevant pics
I find that works well
but they might be a bit boring
 
if I use colour, it's because the colour specifically adds something
 
@FredOverflow To be honest I find that all themes in impress kinda suck.
 
also damnit looks like I'm the only guy who had to work saturdays again
welp, time to eat stuff I guess
the kitchen's all mine
 
please don't tell us that you're sitting alone in the office in just your shreddies, rather than working from home while sitting in just your shreddies...
 
hmmm, here's a neat idea
one Wide function, export it as implementation of more than one C++ function.
 
9:56 AM
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Q: `fwrite` doesn't work directly after `fread`?

Alvin WongI have a program which uses stdio for reading and writing a binary file. It caches the current stream position and will not seek if the read/write offset is already at the desired position. However, an interesting problem appears, that when a byte is read and the following byte is written, it do...

 
@ClickRick 'Shreddies'? There are devs. who work in breakfast cereal?
 
a whole six minutes!
enjoy your free downvote
 
Nice you didn't even read the question
 
oh and by the way, <cstdio> is not a C header.
 
9:57 AM
I guess you can just replace it with stdio.h and it will work exactly like you expect?
 
I guess you could just tag it with the actual language you're using.
and not dump it in here the microsecond you don't get an answer you want.
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@FredOverflow Used this template for a presentation @work last week
 
@ClickRick Must be a regional thingy.
 
Xeo
@ScarletAmaranth no, but ASVFUEGWGDH they mix up 'currying' and 'partial application'
bloody hell
 
10:05 AM
because Haskell mixes them up as well vOv :)
 
Xeo
no?
 
Terminology be hard
 
Which would be harder, C++ or ++C?
 
user1804599
@ClickRick my penis.
 
Xeo
10:08 AM
@ScarletAmaranth how did you get that impression?
 
user1804599
I propose the term currial application.
 
Xeo
also, does that FC++ library live in C++03 land? All those fN functions and types..
 
@Xeo maybe because most literature about Haskell mixes it up; dunno
 
Xeo
okay, FC++ definitly lives in 03 land - Fun2<int, int, int>
 
yeah they also have liftM<n>
 
10:15 AM
> Presented in the 2000 International Conference on Functional Programming (ICFP 2000).
 
@WilliamAndrewMontgomery From 35 to 45, depending on the industry, company and your diploma
 
Xeo
> binding some subset of a functions arguments to values (currying)
omg
not only messing up currying/partial application, but also parameters/arguments
 
I'm not sure I know the difference between parameters and arguments :)
 
@ScarletAmaranth parameters@callee, arguments@caller
 
@ClickRick yes though I do have some extra clothes on me
 
10:25 AM
mmm; so a function takes two arguments, therefore it's a two-parameter function :P?
seriously :D?
 
Oh boy, I just want to installex Latex, but debian.linuxmint.com is down, so I can't. FUCK LINUX. The stream of problems just never ends.
 
I can't see where this distinction in terminology could possibly matter
 
Parameters are initialized with arguments. That's all there is to it, really.
 
@ScarletAmaranth It matters if you use the wrong calling convention:) The arguments are correct but the parameters are not.
 
10:33 AM
oh boy.
I forgot about that part where Clang declares functions with randomly the wrong signature, then bitcasts them to another one on all use sites.
 
user1804599
Nice.
 
does blizzard autolock accounts if someone tries to log in from an IP different from the usual or something
have mine locked right now due to "changes in access pattern"
can't blame them, with all the hacking that goes around
speaking of which, I remember receiving tons of emails telling me I have to reset my password to continue playing WoW, emails coming from addresses like "blizzard.office@yahoo.com"
 
lol
yeah, totally legit.
Blizzard can't afford @blizard.com or @battle.net email addresses
 
why bother stealing game accounts oh lord
 
to sell them I think
 
10:42 AM
to whom o_O
 
people actually buy accounts w/ high level characters in them
 
last time I saw someone pay $150 for some account w/ 3 max level characters, I think it's a bit silly
@ScarletAmaranth it's possible that theirs got suspended or something, and want to get straight back to raiding
no idea
 
wtb something to disable system buttons in Firefox
I keep misclicking and closing windows
 
I wonder what the hell was in jeremy soule's head when he composed icewind dale's main theme, it sounds nothing like his usual works
it's still badass tho
 
10:49 AM
The answer is drugs
 
@CatPlusPlus I keep misclicking and closing tabs on chrome :(
I ctrl+shift+t so often
 
That's no problem you just need to cust- oh wait
 
lol
 
Xeo
@ScarletAmaranth It's mainly a pet-peeve of mine, but it does matter when talking about what is passed, and what is received. Especially important for C++'s overload resolution.
 
hah
found a bug in Wide where I couldn't handle it if Clang actually generated a sane function signature.
 
Xeo
10:51 AM
lol
 
I use parameters and arguments interchangeably and I don't care
 
huh, I had no idea this cartoon paid tribute to baldur's gate: knd.wikia.com/wiki/Vin_Moosk
 
I had no idea this cartoon existed.
 
I used to watch it on CN as a kid
it was fun
 
@kbok Ok, merci :)
 
11:03 AM
@Xeo for example - currying and partial application are two entirely different concepts so nomenclature is of importance; but arguments and parameters are "implicitly convertible" to each other word-wise :P
@StackedCrooked seen the latest FT yet? very anti climactic
 
not yet
just woke up :)
 
go watch it :D
 
I need food first!
 
Xeo
that reminds me that I can't watch Mahouka tonight
 
11:12 AM
get your stuff together man :P
 
Xeo
I'm at a friend's birthday party, so... :P
 
And you're chatting
 
Xeo
I meant tonight
 
Hello all
is there a way to tell the compiler to ignore unused variable for just one method?
 
(void) id;
 
11:27 AM
@BartlomiejLewandowski don't give your function argument a name
 
I'm overriding a base class method, so the signature has to be the same
 
this is one of the most depressing songs I've ever heard in a game
 
void foo(int bar, double /* I_don't_need_you */) {}
 
the level itself is depressing too, and if you pair it with the tips you get from the game, it feels like even the game itself is against you
4th wall style
 
@bamboon cheers
 
11:30 AM
this part of hotline miami is interesting but a bit not well fleshed out I think
I mean how the game constantly trains you to kill more people faster
and near the end it asks you to look at what you've done
 
@BartlomiejLewandowski glad to help
 
Xeo
alright, time to head out
 
@Xeo otherwise known as tail
 
11:47 AM
I'm eating Kartoffelsalat mit Schnittlauch.
 
is that some sort of potato salad?
that's as much as I was able to understand
 
my German is at a "Ich mag pizza" level
kartoffel = cartof in Romanian
didn't notice this until now
 
@AlexM. better than mine
I was just reading the German off the package.
 
haha
I took some German lessons years ago but it was because my parents forced me to do it so it never stuck
 
user1804599
11:54 AM
 
ebay's mobile app doesn't let me choose the type of shipping I want but the full website does
c'mon ebay
 
right
120 passes, 8 failures.
gawsh, one more feature redesign and three more bugfixes and then I can actually implement those new features I wanted.
 
whoa
and here I am sitting on a 19" 1440x900 crap
 
lol
 
11:59 AM
Okay, I hacked some other URL into /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list and it seems to work. Stupid offline servers.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes bwahaha, pure awesomeness! Thanks
 

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