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4:00 PM
@Xeo FWIW, in this particular instance, there was some drinking involved, but I was the sober one by the end.
 
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3 mins ago, by Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes Dude, you need to tone down the drinking
Add a mental "/s"
Or was it "j/k"?
one of the two
in any case, man, I've been productive today \o/
 
you know your job sucks when you're talking about loneliness to your coworker
 
Er, that actually sounds nice.
AlexM. would just tell you to fuck off.
 
I was looking at it from the angle of that you normally talk about work related things
 
But the fact that you don't doesn't really mean the job sucks.
 
4:07 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes ye that's why i posted it bruh
 
@TonyTheLion you do?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I suppose you're right
@thecoshman a lot of the time
 
@Xeo That's hardly unusual in the world!
if you remember yesterday you're not drinking enough
 
admittedly some of my coworkers are hilarious
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit It freaks me out if I don't remember whole episodes like that.
It never happens, which is nice.
 
4:08 PM
I remember last week
 
That was an ass-backwards sentence.
 
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vOv I don't worry about forgetting stuff. I'm just too used to not remembering stuff
 
I only forget the stuff I don't remember
oh wait...
 
4:10 PM
> Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Because it 404's
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes At this point I will struggle to remember specific conversations from the night before perhaps an average of once per month. Then again, that's not always with any alcohol involved - I'm just old :P
 
Xeo
Your brain just sucks!
 
@Xeo ok that's a pretty good reason
the article I got it from must have itself persistently "oneboxed" it when it was posted three years ago, remaining unaffected by subsequent deletion
 
Lol at "navigable documentation". I'm tempted to ask whether you have no nagivagle google either :) — sehe 7 secs ago
 
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4:12 PM
nagivagle
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Oneboxen are all cached and keyed by their trigger text only. Likewise, linked comments don't regen even if posted again (by someone else)
 
Wow. This is meta. The link to the reddit page titled "A request to everyone suffering from latency, packetloss" resulted in a "This took too long to render" error page :/
 
I think I ruined everything again
 
4:17 PM
Gosh. I macro optimize this guy's code. It became ~30x faster. What does he say? "Let's micro-optimize some more"
@Surt all depends. Anyways, it's hardly about optimizing make_atom anyways, it's irrelevant to program runtime, and certainly not relevant to `find_rages_ times :) (you'd better think about whether you need to fix it leaking resources). Always follow the profiler first! — sehe 1 min ago
 
I ended up with this min/max implementation. Decided to not care about returning references since I'v only ever used min/max with built-in types. I wonder if the CPU can really do the ILP though.
 
@sehe You changed data structures?
 
Yes. And most notably don't copy as much
 
@sehe perfect logic
 
4:22 PM
Yeah. Makes one feel real appreciated
 
@Feeds what change did you make?
@sehe you did some work, made it faster, do more work, make it even fasterer.
 
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@FredOverflow meh
 
@sehe "nagivagle" sounds kinky.
 
@rightføld Next week is recursion ;)
 
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@FredOverflow meh
 
4:24 PM
In order to understand recursion, you have to understand recursion
so how are you going to recursively teach them recursion?
 
@rightføld And after that, interfaces.
 
In order to understand recursion, you have to understand the base case.
 
@TonyTheLion That's not proper recursion, you have to make the problem smaller.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes rightfold's naggy vaggle?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit You can link to answers directly.
 
4:25 PM
@FredOverflow I knew one of you nitpicking tits would say that. I deliberately linked to the question because you should read it first before reading the answer, in order to get any humourous effect from it whatsoever. Thanks for your time.
 
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@FredOverflow meh
 
@rightføld What would you be excited about in programming 101?
 
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@FredOverflow quantum computing
 
programming is p exciting! 101! r0f1! 1ma0!
 
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hadamard gate jonge jwz
 
4:27 PM
yay someone just bought the ring for £15k
 
lol ironically Haskell whiskers plots of performance show the shortest deviations
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lolsure.
 
no never mind just a daydream
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Happy now?
 
i do get confused
 
4:27 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit lol
 
@FredOverflow Ow.
 
Meaning that differences between fastest and slowest solutions are smallest across tested languages
 
@FredOverflow that's sexist
 
Plonking Fred until that scrolls away.
 
Considering that slowest solutions are actually pretty idiomatic
 
4:28 PM
Poor spine.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes awww
 
Plonking Bartek until he goes away :P
2
 
what is that
program time / fastest program time ??????
what program?
 
4:29 PM
hm oh wait maybe those aren't solutions
 
Kilotonnes per square inch
 
those might be different problems
 
Bartek suxxors.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit times slower than fastest program
 
4:30 PM
they are solutions to the problem "I do not have enough meaningless non-statistics on my screen"
@BartekBanachewicz ok yes a ratio
but it's still p unclear what that means
unless
they're all compared against C?
 
I like the rate of activity on Nomic.
 
ITT meaningless statistics brought to you by Bartek
 
now, what program? how efficient are the translations in their respective language? are all of those languages a good fit for that program?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit they are compared against fastest solution available, which is mostly C
@LightnessRacesinOrbit 10 benchmarks that are supposed to showcase different computing problems
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the translations are supplied by the community, and the fastest one provided is picked
 
4:31 PM
do they have one to showcase the computing problem that reads: "people are idiots and cannot produce meaningful, informative graphs"?
 
what should that graph have to be informative, for you?
it's taken from an article that explains it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz you could just link to the article?
 
your attitude is now way dumber than the article might ever be.
 
oh well as long as the graph is in an article, why should the graph actually mean anything?
#derp
 
4:32 PM
because I told you what I noticed on it
fuck's sake
whatever
 
actually, you didn't
 
I did you piece of shit but arguing is more important for you than actually listening to someone
 
ahaha
you referring to the Haskell observation?
 
no, to your mom.
 
4:33 PM
fucking Haskell
 
get lost. I never said anything
 
get over it
 
Haskell doesn't exist.
 
sure, the problem with this conversation is me.
looooool
 
@TonyTheLion like you fucking give a shit.
 
4:34 PM
@BartekBanachewicz don't tell that to Robot, he might actually get lost
 
you don't know the language in the slightest.
Why do you even speak up about it
 
@BartekBanachewicz dude chill
fucking hell
 
does someone want to persuade Bartek to, like, calm down a bit or something
before he bursts an aneurism
 
calm down Bartek please
 
I can picture him literally shaking with rage right now
 
4:35 PM
@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
is it possible to save the image of a computer right now, as it is, and make it installable, if that makes sense?
 
@corvid norton ghost
 
BUT some OS's don't like to be transplanted to different hardware - notably Windows XP
 
4:35 PM
not sure how newer Windows handle it. I expect Linuces would be generally okay
 
> Linuces
 
I imagine Mac would just blow up in your face and form a laughing Joker from the smoke
 
my friend dualbooted his linux directly and via VMWare
 
I'm using linux mint, I'm just too lazy to handle reinstalling some of the basic set up tools on other computers
 
4:36 PM
@corvid then write a script that does that
 
I would make a script instead though corvid
 
@corvid or use Vagrant
 
yum install a b c d e f g h i j k l m
gunzip allmyconfigs
or use one of those tools that does it for you
This is a comparison of notable free and open source configuration management software, suitable for tasks typically performed by a system administrator. == Basic properties == "Verify mode" refers to having an ability to determine whether a node is conformant with a guarantee of not modifying it, and typically involves the exclusive use of an internal language supporting read-only mode for all potentially system-modifying operations. "Mutual auth" refers to the client verifying the server and vice-versa. "Agent" describes whether additional Software Daemons are required. Depending on the...
 
Puppet sucks fyi
 
says the sockpuppet
 
4:41 PM
@TonyTheLion Linii
 
haha
man, fire alarm people didn't come
 
Did they take your stapler
 
no, alarm went off this morning, even though there was no fire
the people from the security company have to come reset the fire alarm
 
gyp WARN EACCES user "root" does not have permission to access the dev dir "/root/.node-gyp/0.10.29"
 
so the fire alarm has been going on all day?
 
4:45 PM
NPM, the best package manager
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I managed to turn off the sound
 
luckily
 
4:45 PM
my poor ears man
that thing is loud
 
fire alarm can have its sound disabled, and the security company failed to respond to a fire alarm ALL DAY?
probably illegal to work in that building
 
I called them, and they said they couldn't promise anyone coming around today
 
which of course means "we won't be coming around today"
as everyone knows
 
dat pun
 
4:46 PM
you don't have a quality assurance clause in your contract?
@TonyTheLion \o/
I'd say "you will promise someone coming around today, otherwise you will be deemed to have breached our contract with you. this is a fire alarm, doofus."
and then they'd still not come around today but I'd feel better
 
I don't hold the contract
 
ffs, someone edited my answer to fix a syntax error, and introduced a different one instead :|
and people approved it :|
 
@TonyTheLion No but your company does?
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit dat face
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit the people that own this building do
 
4:53 PM
@bheklilr I seems like the best contribution would be to become rich and throw money at Haskell :D — Luka Horvat 1 min ago
 
> c,c++ / cpp ,qt,qml
I don't even
 
c++/cpp
lol
 
> "you can eat my vanity bagle"
@thecoshman thing is, it won't make it fasterer. Perhaps with a trie/prefix tree in this case
@TonyTheLion that PHP hammer is useful for something after all
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit "Let the motherfucker burn"
 
4:57 PM
> Tool I have used is QT 5.x
^ @Bartek to help you relax
To quote a bright guy..."links are not answers". — Captain Obvlious 26 secs ago
lol beat me to it
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit listening to this atm
also just installed Android 5
 
Programmers usually solve this by prefixing members with something else, for example m_Tomás Badan 5 mins ago
oh dear
@BartekBanachewicz my phone is spamming me with "UPDATE ME UPDATE ME" - should I? I like it how it is now
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit First impressions: it's better. I like how tabs integrate with open apps now, under one button. Builtin apps also seem better (like clock calendar etc)
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't know what tabs are
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit do you use a web browser
 
5:02 PM
@BartekBanachewicz no what's that
so you're saying browser tabs are now windows not tabs. in chrome? or just the builtin browser?
 
Chrome is the builtin browser
what kind of android do you use
 
for the <10k
 
@BartekBanachewicz oh okay it didn't used to be
I've been using Chrome for so long that I didn't notice the built-in get removed
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit in like android 1.6?
 
@BartekBanachewicz nope
 
5:04 PM
@BartekBanachewicz certainly at least as late as Android 2.something
 
well we have android 5 now
 
It's still there. In android 4.x
 
that;s still 3 versions behind
anyway I meant chrome
 
so not that long ago
@BartekBanachewicz oh please. since like 2 minutes ago.
 
ancient times
 
5:05 PM
even though most people don't even have access to 5 yet?
 
4.4.2 has it still builtin
 
you're always so deluded when it comes to upgrades
 
I remember when people still used C++11
 
anyway okay I prefer tabs :(
 
those were the days
 
5:05 PM
loool, a town in Romania nailed it with the xmas decorations scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/…
 
@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit you can switch that off
 
@BartekBanachewicz gdgd
@AlexM. Repost
 
when was it posted?
 
@rightføld Did you know that Clojure is the new C?
 
5:06 PM
@AlexM. looks like cock rings got applied the wrong way
 
@FredOverflow oh please not uncle bob again
 
this time it's fun
 
@BartekBanachewicz What's not to like about him?
 
@FredOverflow i had the displeasure to read one of his articles about FP vs OOP lately
either he completely doesn't get FP, or he completely doesn't get programming at all
 
He has been making a living being a programmer for decades. Pretty sure he knows roughly what he's talking about.
 
5:07 PM
also those decorations appear to be from about 42 different places in the world so far
first time I've heard Romania make the list though
 
> you can use Strategy pattern (and other patterns) in FP just fine
 
you should slap your Facebook friend in the nuts for a lie and a repost
 
> I mean OOP also has functions right
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit huh, weird, I thought the guy who posted it took the pic himself
I'll call him a liar now, yes
 
http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/1tdxam/tis_the_season_to_be_jolly/
http://www.reddit.com/r/funny/comments/2m8nkr?sort=confidence
etc
@AlexM. that's probably what he wanted you to think
I'm a little disappointed that I can't find any examples from pre-2014 :( I wanted to say "1995"
next crisis
 
5:10 PM
> Every functional program ever written is composed of a set of functions that operate on data. Every OO program ever written is composed of a set of functions that operate on data.
 
Do I need a landline phone number in order to have broadband?
 
> values can be changed using various magic incantations.
 
in the UK
 
@FredOverflow do I really have to continue?
 
@Bartek what else?
 
5:12 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit read for yourself
 
@TonyTheLion depends on what you mean by "broadband"
@BartekBanachewicz Android isn't even mentioned once on that page, doofus
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit ugh you mean android
dunno really, it's ok
 
@BartekBanachewicz Show me a talk that doesn't contain errors ;)
 
@FredOverflow That's a silly argument. Herb Sutter has also made a decent living from being a programmer for decades. As has Meyers.
 
@FredOverflow those aren't errors. Those are examples of blatant lack of understanding.
 
5:13 PM
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I have "Fibre", whatever that means
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't think you have a shining career in tech review ahead of you, my friend.
@TonyTheLion BT Infinity?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Fair enough. Still, I feel entertained when I watch his talks.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit :D I'll tell you more in a few days then
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit No, Sky
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit I would like to see real code written by Herb. Does Herb still write code, or does he "manage"?
 
5:14 PM
@FredOverflow I am pretty sure he knows a lot about OOP.
 
I don't believe this is a technical constraint, though. There's no reason they have to hook you up to the voice trunk
So, business decision.
Traditionally, [A]DSL (and of course dialup) are the only land-based broadband technologies requiring a voice line
@FredOverflow He pisses me off is what he does -.-
@BartekBanachewicz ok l;p
 
okay codementor session rescheduled for today
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit But Visual Studio has become so much more standards compliant!
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit y
 
@BartekBanachewicz AAA among other idiotic things
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit sigh I wonder how much time will it take you to realize that type inference is good.
Probably actually using it would help.
And then going back to not using it
 
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@FredOverflow gonna watch that after eating yummy fish with potatoes and peas.
 
Xeo
 
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5:29 PM
And then I'm gonna implement integer factoring in Clojure.
 
Xeo
I think somebody accidentally flipped "-2/3" to "-3/2"
 
@Xeo ahaha
 
ooh, she was pretty
 
I thought that
but nobody even on imgur had said so so I decided I wouldn't
then here I come to the Lounge and there's Alex
lol
 
5:32 PM
I'm shallow like that
 
oooh wolfenstein -50%
damnnn
> Haskell development job with Well-Typed
 
@AlexM. let's face it, she was fucking gorgeous
 
yes she was
why someone would do that to her is beyond me
 
Because people are shit
Also getting involved in fights is usually dumb
 
5:37 PM
What happens if I copy a file from reference source??
 
the evil within was such an amazing game that bethesda decided to sell it for 66% off a month after release
 
In CRTP you have a situation where the base class knows its derived type. Thinking about this, .. it's so weird.
 
@StackedCrooked yes
that's why it's the C RTP
 
cinky?
 
5:46 PM
@StackedCrooked curiously
it's the curiously recurring template pattern
 
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crappy
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit to dance?
 
@JohanLarsson to arrest you and erase your memory
 
Xeo
@LightnessRacesinOrbit Nice
 

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