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user1804599
6:00 PM
Gotta make bug-prone program.
 
Bug free code is a myth.
We are the bugs.
 
user1804599
Bug Juice.
 
@thecoshman dat pun
 
@Borgleader link?
 
evening noobs and robot
 
6:06 PM
so cat is noob?
 
@JohanLarsson Link? Oh I don't have a repo for this code. I just made it.
 
0 is even if we are lame
 
user1804599
Peter Shor looks like Larry Wall.
 
user1804599
Proof that God exists: L-to-P is five letters, as is S-to-W.
 
I fail to see how that implicates the existnece of God
 
user1804599
6:15 PM
It's also the proof that I'm massively autistic.
 
You are not
 
user1804599
I am many other things, though.
 
The DM5 is yet to list 'a dick' as a mental condition, sorry.
 
user1804599
I like dicks.
 
user1804599
 
6:27 PM
¬_¬ they know exactly what they are doing.
 
user1804599
You look like an asshole on that picture sehe once posted.
 
IIRC I was awake for mere seconds before it was taken.
 
user1804599
@sehe fascinating
 
ergh, I want to get the Humble Book Bundle, but it ends before payday, and ended up in serious penny pinching mode this month. Going to have to wait a few days to see how it goes.
 
what books?
 
user1804599
6:36 PM
On the Origin of Spices.
 
just over 100 Star Wars comics.
 
user1804599
Sasha Grey > Charles Darwin
 
Well, she does have this whole 'being alive' thing going for her.
 
user1804599
So glad I'll never have children.
 
@thecoshman Why not just get it for like, 1p?
 
6:45 PM
Hello, can I ask my question here?
 
no.
 
user1804599
Oct 22 at 18:58, by Cat Plus Plus
Don't be a bad apple, read the cheerful rules!
 
Oh hey that asm.js bundle has Democracy 3 for 8$
 
user1804599
What you can and cannot do is explained on that page in detail.
 
6:47 PM
Thanks Programmers.
Nice to meet you.....
Bye. Have a nice day,programmers.
 
cya
 
user1804599
Goodbye.
 
Goodbye.
 
user1804599
I need a quantum computer.
 
user1804599
Emulating quantum computers on classical computers is slow and boring.
2
 
6:50 PM
mlyp
 
my little yellow pony
 
so yellow
 
user1804599
My yellow chat message.
 
also the clock thingy changed
it's nice because it gets darker sooner
 
noticed that when I walked home.
 
7:01 PM
@rightføld fascinating response time :)
 
@AlexM. Dark come soon by Tegan and Sara is a great song.
 
@Puppy some of it is only for those paying the average, some is just outright $15.
 
kinda defeats the point of "pay what you want" doesn't it?
welp more furniture to assemble!
 
7:19 PM
@MarshelAbraham 75 bytes could mess it up just as easily. If you have an existing protocol, implement it. Period. No ifs, no buts. (Your expectation about Boost Serialization was just plain incorrect in that respect). You can of course use the Boost Spirit code I showed here as a starting point. It's not "risking" boost spirit, it's using it: You are in control of your program (or you should be!) so you cannot be the victim. Just implement the right thing correctly... — sehe 1 min ago
I spoiled the guy with 2 answers (because, I was also a bit miffed by the lack of brevity in boost serialization binary output). But come on, take responsibility
 
@rightføld I've seen more pleasant things today
 
1 message moved to bin
cool story
 
:19613774 That's more than NSFW IMO.
 
user1804599
:'(
 
Fun Trivia: it's often the people that start out with atrocities and violence against animals that turn out as child-molesters, full-on psychopaths and murderers in the end.
So, glorifying that behaviour is not really something I'm comfortable with. No matter how funny the meme.
 
7:23 PM
@rightføld rename to wtføld
 
@CatPlusPlus I was still typing my response. Good response time
 
user1804599
inb4 meta post
 
Why? We know you.
 
user1804599
Not all people who visit the lounge know me.
 
user1804599
/b/ is so awesome.
 
Xeo
7:27 PM
whee
and with my friend just leaving, we conclude the Great Gundam Weekend.
 
@Puppy I don't think they've done a pure 'pay what yo want' for a while. They seem to always have extras that you have to pay a certain amount for. Plus, you can still (as many people seem to) pay a good bit more. They also have the store, which is just fixed price for a game.
 
Xeo
Binged all 50 episodes of Zeta Gundam...
 
awesome
 
Here's a useful flowchart on posting images if you're badfold or telkitty:
10
  +---------------------+            +---------------+
  |                     |     No     |               |
  |  Is it from 4chan?  |+---------->|  Don't post.  |
  |                     |            |               |
  +---------------------+            +---------------+
            +
            | Yes
            v
     +---------------+
     |               |
     |  Don't post.  |
     |               |
     +---------------+
 
user1804599
How about 8chan? 8chan is great too.
 
7:31 PM
I read it as the yes arrow
 
what's 4chan?
 
user1804599
headquarters_id_index = next(n for n in range(len(request.form.getlist('addresses[]'))) if request.form.get('is_headquarters[' + str(n) + ']'))
 
user1804599
I'm writing such bad code today.
 
Ell
@rightfold not if you visit every day
So slow
 
user1804599
try:
    billing_address_id_index = next(n for n in range(len(request.form.getlist('addresses[]'))) if request.form.get('is_billing_address[' + str(n) + ']'))
    billing_address_id = request.form.getlist('addresses[]')[billing_address_id_index]
except StopIteration:
    billing_address_id = None
 
user1804599
7:41 PM
I could change the client-side code to send the data properly but meh.
 
user1804599
Much more fun this way!
 
user1804599
This looks fun: sonic-pi.net
 
@CatPlusPlus badfold lol
 
you know when I started this I did not expect any difficulty from making swi-prolog output the results in a file after called w/ a goal from the command line
I wish their documentation included more examples than explanations
I wish all documentations included more examples than explanations actually
 
user1804599
> documentations
 
user1804599
7:56 PM
gimme the codes
 
documentations doesn't sound that wrong
 
I'm pretty sure documentations is the plural of documentation
or maybe it was documentatii
 
just had some canned tuna. it was delicious.
 
user1804599
"Documentation" as you want to use it is a mass noun.
 
user1804599
"Documentation" as you use it refers to an instance of the process of documenting.
 
7:59 PM
> Software documentation is written text that accompanies computer software. It either explains how it operates or how to use it, and may mean different things to people in different roles.
two different programs come with two different documentations
 
user1804599
No, that's bullshit.
 
lol
ok
 
user1804599
You don't say they're compiled from "two different codes" either.
 
Ell
@AlexM. two different programs come with two different sets of documentation
 
user1804599
You want to say something like "two different documentation bundles."
 
8:03 PM
why bundles?
I guess sets of documentation works
 
I'll use docs exclusively from now on
"<stuff> of documentation" is so unnecessarily bloated
 
user1804599
You cannot say "two docs" either.
 
user1804599
It's also a mass noun.
 
I can say whatever I fucking want
docs = documents
doc = document
 
Ell
8:11 PM
I thought we were talking about documentation?
 
but I think it's clear when someone says "this program's docs suck" that they're referring to the documentation
 
Ell
it is
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is there a way to only run a certain benchmark with nonius. Similar to how you can do with CATCH?
 
fuck this shit it's not working
I'll get back to it tomorrow
if I continue I might ragedelete the VM
 
why is itunes so annoying?
 
8:17 PM
right
four chairs assembled.
 
shit, I shouted at rightfoldy :(
rightfoldy pls forgive
 
user1804599
wat
 
wat wat
 
user1804599
I did not notice you shouting.
 
10 mins ago, by Alex M.
I can say whatever I fucking want
my shouts are uh, mild
 
user1804599
8:21 PM
THAT IS NOT A SHOUT
 
I'm not very assertive okay, that is a shout for me
 
user1804599
Assertion failed.
 
@AlexM. so, what do you fucking want?
 
user1804599
I don't like Monday deadlines.
 
@Ell mmm? I think they do
 
8:26 PM
@Ell You mean, "They pretend to believe that homosexual relations will not result in eternal damnation in a religion-specific Hell"?
sounds pretty rational and common to me.
I certainly believe that
 
Apr 5 at 9:56, by sehe
@R.MartinhoFernandes Mmm. That is unusual. Meltdowns usually happen on mondays. However, this being a non-work-related stress (?) Friday night might count as a "monday".
 
@Puppy How many hours? :)
 
Ell
Im not sure. If I declared my love for underage children or animals or corpses I don't think they would say "live and let live" anymore
 
totally different things.
 
Ell
@puppy how? :S
 
8:27 PM
there's no reason any adult human (barring serious cognitive disfunction) cannot consent to a relationship with any other adult human.
 
user1804599
@Ell You can do that and only fools will judge you for it.
 
children, animals and corpses cannot give informed consent.
 
@Ell hahaha. You were trying, once more, to go to extremes
 
(although frankly, I fail to summon up the will to care about animals if they also don't mind)
 
Xeo
Haah, dat UBW opening. So good.
 
8:28 PM
children can
 
user1804599
@Puppy You Daisyfucker!
 
@Puppy Although, they wouldn't necessarily object either. Especially if the relationship doesn't include all traditional human-like interactions.
 
What's happening?
 
Ell
@puppy people don't give consent to be loved. I could love you without you ever consenting to it
Or I could be attracted to you similarly
 
@Jefffrey needs citation
 
8:29 PM
@Ell Nor do you require it.
if you decided to love children, animals, or corpses, I'd probably only care if you actually acted on it.
 
user1804599
Cannibal Corpse.
 
and even then, more in a "You need treatment" kind of way, not a pointless "WAAAH YOU'RE GOING TO HELL" kind of way.
 
@Puppy I guess one would certainly forfait access to heaven if they chose to love you, with or without anyone's consent
 
@sehe "children can" - Jefffrey
 
personally, I doubt that love is much of a choice.
 
user1804599
8:30 PM
Nobody has ever proven heaven to exist, so fuck it.
 
Ell
@Puppy right. me too
 
user1804599
Although Pascal's Wager.
 
@Jefffrey Thanks
 
np
 
Ell
@sehe I'm just saying that I don't believe they believe what they say they beleive
 
8:31 PM
@rightføld Fluid mechanics?
@Ell They clearly do, else they wouldn't act that way.
 
@rightføld Wager? Silly and unrealistic.
 
user1804599
I think Pascal's Wager is perfectly reasonable.
 
Ell
"love who you want" is implying (as I interpret it) that they should ignore any "immoral love/attraction"
 
Pascal's Wager is patently exceedingly silly.
 
@rightføld Have you heard or read the rationale against it.
 
8:32 PM
the Wager states that the price of assuming the existence of God is zero, which it is clearly not.
 
@Ell Who is "they", and what is it they "say they believe"? Because what's in that picture is pretty clear. If you want to make it about anything else (besides gender equality) - fine, but that's your choice
 
user1804599
@VáclavZeman No. Link?
 
user1804599
@Puppy No.
 
user1804599
Finite loss ≠ 0.
 
there's no guarantee of only finite loss.
 
Ell
8:33 PM
@sehe oops, my bad. They is the people on facebook liking/sharing/etc. the photo. I guess I'm taking their message out of context, I see now
 
@Puppy In the purest sense, it is. It's just the rest that got added on top in history (assuming God exists does not imply assuming that certain people get to lay down the rules, because they "talk to God")
 
user1804599
@Puppy If you believe in God, there's only finite loss since you cannot do things said god will send you to hell for.
 
user1804599
But you can do other things.
 
user1804599
So it's not infinite.
 
user1804599
And it's not 0 either.
 
8:34 PM
@sehe Well, I guess that it's not explicit that "I assume God exists" -> "I follow the laws of the Bible/etc".
@rightføld That's not true.
 
@Puppy That's an even further stretch, yes
 
there's no known upper bound on the number of humans who could possibly exist.
if time is infinite, then there could conceptually be infinite humans to exist.
so if they all followed the Wager, they could suffer infinite damage.
 
user1804599
@Puppy That's irrelevant.
 
user1804599
It's per-person amount of loss/gain.
 
per-person is meaningless.
 
8:35 PM
@rightføld Well, try this one: youtube.com/watch?v=YBCDGohZT70
 
our entire civilization is built on the accomplishments of our ancestors.
 
user1804599
Burning in hell for eternity counts as infinite loss.
 
user1804599
Fapping in heaven for eternity counts as infinite gain.
 
failing to gain knowledge in this generation directly means that all future generations will have less knowledge as a result.
you can't make a per-person wager when the actions of each individual may have ramifications across all future generations.
 
oh there we go, I managed to get this thing to output to a file properly
 
user1804599
8:37 PM
Again
 
user1804599
other people are irrelevant.
 
user1804599
I don't know what made you think it was relevant.
 
[salami,pizza,salami_pizza]
^ that's what Alex likes
 
@sehe Oh wait, not really. I fail to see how assuming the existence of God results in any gain at all if you don't make any attempt to play by the rules that the aforementioned tried to (hypothetically) lay down for you.
if you assume that God exists, this in as of itself is no guarantee of any gain, even if God does exist.
 
user1804599
Well there is a flaw that I recognise.
 
8:38 PM
@Puppy That's beyond Pascal's Wager though. He doesn't say there needs to be a gain
 
@rightføld: Also, this is enlightening: dropbox.com/s/n2yk89p8j1wxi8h/36%20Arguments.pdf?dl=0
 
user1804599
Believing in God doesn't imply going to heaven and not believing in God doesn't imply going to hell.
 
nor is there any requirement that athiests would go to Hell.
 
user1804599
It may be the reverse or not be true at all.
 
@Puppy Also outside the wager.
 
8:39 PM
well, I disagree.
the whole point of the Wager is that your decision to believe in God must make some determination about your afterlife.
else, there's no purpose in making the decision at all.
if God doesn't give a shit whether or not you believe in him, then deciding either way is meaningless.
 
user1804599
There is a chance he does.
 
or if God operates some kind of gotcha where believers go to Hell and athiests go to Heaven, then the optimum choice is reversed.
 
user1804599
But then it's 50/50 whether he harms or rewards you for believing in him.
 
user1804599
So that's where the wager fails.
 
the Wager only makes sense where you assume that you have some foreknowledge about how God will behave in regards to your actions.
 
Ell
8:41 PM
@sehe you could point out my mistake without laughing at me :/
 
@Puppy I'm going by your own summary that the wager claims "assuming the existence of [a] God is zero"
8 mins ago, by Puppy
the Wager states that the price of assuming the existence of God is zero, which it is clearly not.
 
@Puppy Not entirely true. The assumption of outer agency saved lives of the early humans because they ware more prepared due to their delusion of outer agency. For early men, belief in gods or God was something that has given them evolutionary advantage.
 
@Puppy so afterlife has very little to do with it (god does not imply afterlife, and there is no reason to assume that the existence of god implies that you can do anything to improve such a ... potential afterlife)
 
fuck it. MS PPL is useless =\
 
8:42 PM
@sehe It has everything to do with it at least for Christians. Eternal afterlife is what Christianity is about.
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked wa nen 'omo
 
@VáclavZeman Yes. I'm pretty sure, though, Pascal was being a philosopher. Anyways, I don't know the wager:
 
and std algorithms are also horrible.
 
1 min ago, by sehe
@Puppy I'm going by your own summary that the wager claims "assuming the existence of [a] God is zero"
 
@rightføld lol
 
8:43 PM
@sehe Which is the whole point of why there's a problem. The Wager simply doesn't make sense if you don't associate belief in God with infinite happiness. If the price of disbelieving in God was only that God steals your cookie (one time, i.e. exact total loss of one cookie), then the Wager doesn't make sense, since the price of disbelieving in God is so low there's no reason to believe in him even if he does exist.
 
user1804599
@Puppy What if it's a really large cookie?
 
@Puppy Aha. So your summary sucks :) If the wager makes no sense without XXX, you should not have omitted it :)
 
still not worth giving up technology, civil rights, etc.
after all, I would not possess a cookie without the industrial factory that produced it in the first place.
 
@rightføld like this one?
 
8:44 PM
so go go team athiesm/science as far as I'm concerned, God can take a cookie from me, I'll just buy another, I eat too many as it is.
 
user1804599
In short, you're statistically screwed.
 
I may be screwed for many reasons, but if God wants me to do something, he can get off his fat ass and get down here and explain to me why I should.
4
 
user457812
And bring a checkbook.
 
user1804599
 
> some of his friends
lolwat
 
8:47 PM
yeah...
 
user1804599
Alex let's fist.
 
why, are you delivering a baby soon?
 
user457812
It's like a secret handshake, but for people who can feel it on the inside.
 
@Puppy 100 % agreement.
 
Xeo
Damn, UBW anime 10/10.
I wonder what kind of budget ufotable actually has for these episodes...
 
8:49 PM
I'm so bad at Civ:BE T_T
 
user1804599
> Fisting is said to be the only sexual practice invented in the twentieth century.
 
Ell
okay why isn't this workingg
 
user457812
I want historical research on it so we can put this to bed.
 
@Borgleader I heard that it's just a Civ5 reskin.
 
@Ell Sorry :/ Sometimes that's quick way to point it out, though o.O
 
Ell
8:51 PM
@sehe it usually has the effect of making my go into battle mode
Which I come back out of once I realise
 
Really o.O
I didn't see that coming
 
Ell
well, it makes me assume that you're against me and will be for the remainder of the discussion
or makes me assume that it will be an argument instead of a discussion
but ah well
 
@Puppy Eh, I don't think that's a fair statement. Sure its close enough, but I mean, the aliens do a much better job at giving you something to think about / strategize than the barbarians ever did, the units and tech trees have been redone. I like the new affinity thing. While none of this is a ground breaking change from 5 I wouldn't call it a reskin either.
 
@Ell Anyways, it's not intrinsically bad to go in battle mode. As long as that includes rational arguments :)
If you enjoy getting your point across even if people at first missed it entirely, battle mode can be good
 
Ell
Yeah I guess
 
8:54 PM
k peeps, I'm off to bed
 
Ell
@sehe night (that's early!)
 
@Ell Off to bed does not mean to bed to sleep. ;-)
 
user1804599
9:09 PM
> Measles is nine times more contagious than Ebola
 
user1804599
lol measles
 
user1804599
in the netherlands only bible belt fools get that
 
9:36 PM
=> (ask-prolog-weather-type 25)
"[Warm]"
=> (ask-prolog-weather-type 30)
"[Hot]"
the shit works
hooray
 
2
Q: Does Nymphomaniac have real sex scenes?

TomI have just watched Nymphomaniac 2013 film. I heard the actors and actresses have real sex scenes. Is that true?

 
Hi
In the context of threading, what is a "thread dispathcer"? Would that be a good name to give a function that calls pthread_create()?
 
no.
 
user1804599
Hmm. He's on my plonklist.
 
user1804599
So he's been here before.
 
9:47 PM
@rightføld have you read any of the books listed here? clojure.org/books
I'm having fun with the language so far and I'd read a book about it
the first one attracts me the most but that's because it's part of the pragmatic bookshelf lol
 
user1804599
No.
 
user1804599
Fuck books.
 
user1804599
Also, AdBlock nukes that page. Even more reason to not read the books.
 
lol yeah it nuked it for me too
the pragmatic bookshelf thingy it is then
 
user1804599
If you read this you know Clojure: gist.github.com/rightfold/e57a87378dac70e38d3c
 
9:51 PM
lol BBC
volcano that's been erupting for 27 years now threatens 50 residents with a 9m/hour moving lava flow
and they're like, "Er mah gerd, residents gotta FLEE!".
like it was some unforeseeable event from which they must now dash at top speed
 
user1804599
Woo 9m/h.
 
user1804599
What an incredible velocity.
 
you can't force foxit reader to check for updates
if you set it to autoupdate that is
it throws a message like "Foxit is already set to autoupdate. Follow the update tips as they appear."
 
@Puppy just be glad it's not american news.
 
user1804599
On Fox News the lava would be caused by Ebola coming from Jerusalem.
 
9:55 PM
@rightføld yes, I want to read about :battle-state :player-turn and what those are
 
user1804599
And on CNN it would take place in Belgium.
 
user1804599
@AlexM. They are keywords.
 
I used :dir "some path" in my sh call to tell it in which dir to work
and I used :out to get the stdout thingy from sh's results
I'd also like to learn more about metadata, more exactly what in the heck ^String does (all I know is that it says that I want the parameter to be of type String and it's metadata)
 
user1804599
It specialises the function for string argument.
 
user1804599
So that it doesn't have to rely on runtime reflection.
 
user1804599
10:00 PM
user=> (set! *warn-on-reflection* true)
true
user=> (defn f [x] (.length x))
Reflection warning, NO_SOURCE_PATH:1:13 - reference to field length can't be resolved.
#'user/f
user=> (defn g [^String x] (.length x))
#'user/g
user=> (g 42)

ClassCastException java.lang.Long cannot be cast to java.lang.String  user/g (NO_SOURCE_FILE:1)
 
@Puppy if you wait long enough, even the simplest things can become quite urgent
 
user1804599
Oh nice, that's like PHP type hints then.
 
user1804599
Hmmm.
 
user1804599
Oh, not quite.
 
user1804599
user=> ((fn [^Long x] (* x x)) 42.0)
1764.0
 
Ell
10:03 PM
who was the guy promoting glfw the other day?
 
@rightføld yes that much I've got
however I've read that ^ essentially means "apply this metadata for what follows"
which makes me think that it could be used in other places
 
user1804599
I have never used metadata!
 
user1804599
Other than :doc, :private and :dynamic metadata.
 
sometimes I feel bad for using my mother's facebook message box as temporary buffer, but it's like the most accessible solution for me
 
Ell
I do it sometimes
 
10:06 PM
I want to download 2 things tomorrow at work so I just dropped the links in her box and said "ignore these links :D"
 
user1804599
was it porn
 
@AlexM. You could make an app for that
 
@rightføld naw, it was music
 
user1804599
music with screaming asian girls cumming
 
@AlexM. Email it to yourself.
 
10:09 PM
that's more work than opening a facebook tab
I did use to do it like that before, but now that I discovered the facebook solution...
I also don't like to use my email at work
and the work email only works in the company's intranet thingy
@StackedCrooked now I'm constantly listening to the sempre sempre song >.>
also mum confirmed that it was pretty popular back in the day in Romania
 
@AlexM. Great :D I was initially hooked to this song.
 
what's the word for when someone enforces the rules for the sake of them being rules without question?
 
a person with a lack of judgment abilities
@StackedCrooked that one is neat too, but sempre is much... happier?
 
I think both sound quite happy. Btw, doesn't "felicita" mean happiness? :)
But yeah, I love both :D
 
user1804599
gefeliciteerd
 
Ell
10:22 PM
felacio
 
here's a song about sarcastic happiness
one of the most depressing songs that I know of
 
Ell
10:34 PM
I need to lose weigght
and gain willpower
 
@corvid There's no specific word for it, afaik
 
user1804599
@corvid "red tape" is a bit more general than that, but should work.
 
@corvid 'jobsworth'? 'Parking Enforcement Officer'?
 
@Ell you need to gain willpower to lose weigght
 
Ell
@chmod711telkitty this is true
 
10:41 PM
not unless you have heavy items in your inventory
you can drop those and wait for the next level up for willpower++
I may like games a bit too much for my own good
 
Move to Mars?
 
user1804599
Digital Mars.
 
10:57 PM
> Clojure is an excellent Lisp, both for Lisp experts and for Lisp beginners.
this book sure praises Clojure
this is the Nth time it did so
then again, it's a book about Clojure
 

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