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SAM
7:00 PM
gonna have to download later to be able to read that code
 
user1804599
Hmm.
 
user1804599
Thai Sweet Chili-flavoured crisps.
 
Hmmm
@Bartek hasn't been here for a while
 
Tbh, must be annoying to talk.
 
@TonyTheLion Yeah. :o He said he's been busy lately.
 
7:03 PM
oh right
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion He's been working on Lounge<Chat> 24/7.
 
user1804599
I hope. Because if not then we're screwed.
 
SAM
There seems some proportional mismatch in his hands and face...
 
user1804599
Do you guys have many books?
 
7:05 PM
@not-rightfold about the top 12 of the book list
 
I have quite a few books, on variety of topics, not only C++
 
@not-rightfold You want some? I still have 'XML and Web Services' available. I was going to burn it, but with the price o'gas...
 
user1804599
I have one book. :lol:
 
user1804599
@MartinJames eBay
 
7:06 PM
I got 2 Uncle Bob books as well
 
user1804599
No wait. Don't use eBay. Those fuckers own Magento. Don't give them any money.
 
Wait, isn't this Lounge<Meta>
 
SAM
@TemplateRex Can you post that?
 
user1804599
@ÓlafurWaage Talking about the room's name is so meta.
 
ohai @ÓlafurWaage! Long time no see
 
7:07 PM
Hey Tony
 
@SAM post what?
 
@ÓlafurWaage How is you?
 
I is good
Skool
 
user1804599
I'm going to write an ORM that infers everything from information_schema.
 
Me good too.
 
7:08 PM
@not-rightfold I don't think I could sell it on an online auction site - it's a bit messy. I've been using it as a dog food bowl stand for three years.
 
user1804599
@MartinJames lol
 
@not-rightfold lolwat. I can't wait to find out when its NOT going to be finished. :)
 
SAM
@TemplateRex list of books...
 
user1804599
@MartinJames That title alone.
 
7:09 PM
3272
Q: The Definitive C++ Book Guide and List

grepsedawkThis question attempts to collect the few pearls among the dozens of bad C++ books that are released every year. Unlike many other programming languages, which are often picked up on the go from tutorials found on the Internet, few are able to quickly pick up C++ without studying a good C++ book...

 
user1804599
My previous school had a subject in the second year called "Software Architecture (XML)".
 
user1804599
One of the reasons I quit.
 
I have a book titled "5 sluts and their adventures"
3
Nothing to do with C++.
 
@not-rightfold lol
 
Of course you do.
 
7:09 PM
@not-rightfold Yeah - I can't remember buying it. Must'a been really pissed up :)
 
hahaha
 
user1804599
The starboard is full of slut.
 
Its Friday!
 
in iceland
yes
 
@not-rightfold Damn I wish I was the starbord
 
7:10 PM
There's sluts in Iceland?
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion Sure.
 
user1804599
There's sluts everywhere.
 
@TonyTheLion They're everywhere.
 
@Borgleader Try a bottle of port.
 
user1804599
lekkere geile sletjes
 
SAM
7:11 PM
@TemplateRex Thanks...
 
i thought he’d gonna say, when STL is up, damn
 
Yes. A lot of them.
 
Configuring servers that you don't own is boring
 
ohhh sletjes
 
Too many to service
 
SAM
7:11 PM
This guy is from WALL-E
 
Booorring aaaa booooring
 
GN lunch time?
 
yes
 
@CatPlusPlus ohhh man, I had to do that at my last job for like forever
sooo boring
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus Outsource it to India.
 
7:11 PM
I was going to say "Outsource to Poland", but then it struck me...
 
user1804599
Outsource it to North Korea.
 
@TonyTheLion LOL!
 
SAM
Now 1 hour for the next talk?
 
Yep, Lunch time in Seattle
 
Beer time in UK.
 
user1804599
7:13 PM
I just realized.
 
user1804599
Magento has multi-instance singletons.
 
those are no more singletons then
 
user1804599
It's like.
 
SAM
OMG STL is too late...
why why why ?
 
Cause
 
7:14 PM
does anyone know what Sean Parent meant with: "For C++ performance doesn't matter"?
 
no one cares about performance. Except when they do.
 
@SAM It's been copied, sorry moved, to tomorrow.
 
user1804599
There is a class Foo, which has an instance() static function that returns the instance. This instance represents a collection, but when you use the constructor of Foo it doesn't represent the collection but a single entity.
 
user1804599
It's fucking horrible.
 
@SAM Wtf, they changed the schedule again!
 
7:14 PM
dammit valgrind keeps telling me I have leaks , but I have no idea where
 
T_T
 
user1804599
In your program.
 
stupid GTK memory management
 
Use clang
 
@not-rightfold huehuehue
@A.H. Did you try LLVM?
 
7:15 PM
@Tuntuni nope
 
SAM
 
user1804599
Use Haskell.
 
its something GTK is doing
 
@A.H. You should try LLVM.
 
SAM
@MartinJames no?
 
7:16 PM
@A.H. It's a GUI. Are they 'real' leaks or just leftovers that never increase?
 
@MartinJames I dunno , its the first time I have used GTK and valgrind
kinda flying blind here
 
user1804599
If I get a daughter I'm going to call her Kiss and if I get a son I'm going to call him Yagni.
 
@SAM What I meant is that STL's talk was supposed to be right after lunch. Now they've shortened the lunch and threw in that other talk.
 
SAM
@Tuntuni hmmmm
 
7:18 PM
but as far as I can tell, I don't need to free anything done by GTK so...
 
user1804599
name mingling
 
SAM
recognize him?
 
@SAM Maybe they didn't change anything at all but STL's talk was clearly right after the await guy.
 
user1804599
Ugh, this code.
 
@TonyTheLion Ow.
 
user1804599
7:19 PM
It's horrific.
 
> Like a bomb that just blows everything up.
So that's what they do!!
Finally, the truth.
 
SAM
@Tuntuni Ya the other talk wasn't there 5-10 minutes before
 
@SAM Mhm.
 
user1804599
"10 more minutes, I'm ohmmost done" said the electrical engineer to his wife.
 
user1804599
7:21 PM
Is it lame pun Friday?
 
user1804599
inb4 tony "dat pun"
 
@A.H. Leaks that grow with increasing runtime = very bad. 'Leftovers' that never increase are an almost inevitable result in complex, (especially multithreaded), apps.
 
@not-rightfold dat pun
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion All this control bullshit is so getting out of hand
 
7:22 PM
@Tuntuni Ugh - I just read than again :(
 
its silly and abnoxious
 
@TonyTheLion Wow seriously ...
 
@MartinJames well its a test program from GTK tutorial , as in I never actually use the heap (besides a std::string)
 
user1804599
Why would you block porn? Porn is good! Porn for everyone!
 
See tony
 
7:23 PM
dat music
 
isnt it lovely
 
but so far it looks like its the same amount every time
 
where is your porn god now
 
@A.H. OK, ignore. Heap allocation when creating GUI components is difficult to avoid.
 
user1804599
7:24 PM
Parents' responsibility, not government's.
 
user1804599
I'm going to vote for libertarian party.
 
@Xeo lol'd
 
@MartinJames yes , but should it be leaking ? or is it a valgrind error
One would think GTK wouldn't leak
 
@Xeo Ah, Spider and Scorpion.
S'been a while since I've checked that out.
 
Xeo
SeqArt ♥
 
7:26 PM
@ÓlafurWaage I don't have a porn god
 
Then you live a lousy life!
 
user1804599
@TonyTheLion You are a porn god.
 
SAM
Is this the most updated errata for TC++PL 4e ? Anyone? @TonyTheLion @Xeo
 
@TonyTheLion So how exactly will they confirm the age of someone who's trying to access porn?
 
7:27 PM
You'll have to prove to the provider you're over 18 before they give you access
 
user1804599
std::unique_piotr
 
@A.H. Deliberate leftovers, with the intention of simplifying, (or even enabling at all), speedy shutdowns are not leaks.
 
user1804599
Cat is a smart piotr.
 
Anyway, beer, before the puppy tells me he's lost more weight :)
 
7:28 PM
smart_ptr is my most often repeated typo
 
user1804599
I wonder what Cat looks like IRL.
 
Like a Cat
 
@not-rightfold Pointy ears, bit like like a 'PHB' manager.
 
7:31 PM
hahaha
 
JBL
@MartinJames Careful, I was close to reading that "PHP".
 
template<class ignored>
my_class globals<ignored>::my_global; //instantiate
const my_class& get_my_global() noexcept
{return globals<int>::my_global;}
//why would people do this instead of static inline?
 
@MooingDuck to avoid ODR-issues in header-only libs?
 
Xeo
@TemplateRex static is internal linkage
 
@TemplateRex static inline in the function doesn't have ODR issues either
for those interested, found this in Microsoft's <system_error>
 
Xeo
7:37 PM
wat
 
I think there is a thread on Boost ML about the std::placeholders, how to make those ODR-safe
maybe I got confused
you are talking about functions, not variables
 
@TemplateRex my_global is a global variable, get_my_global is a function.
oh, wait, that's it though. It gives a portable way to put a global in a header only setup.
 
@MooingDuck yeah, but my_global is a static class template member
 
wait, yes it is
I'm just going to say "Microsoft" and move on I think.
also, Microsoft, Y U NO std::error_category for your multimedia API?
 
Mmm sandwiches with appelpate.
 
7:43 PM
 
@Borgleader that's brilliant :D
 
Welp... seems like I can't coax any more performance out of shell sort =/
 
SAM
@Borgleader Which IDE please?
 
@Borgleader is it right?
 
@StackedCrooked I didn't make it =/
I saw it in the lounge ages ago and kept it in a tab, cuz its hilarious
 
7:45 PM
@Borgleader that doesn't look right at all
 
@MooingDuck I have a boost unit test setup that generates random sequences of characters and compares the result to that of std::sort and they give the same answers.
 
@MooingDuck here's a boost ML message that your question reminded me of
 
I didn't know Shell Sort took a Stride input
 
@Borgleader it should be trivial to coax more performance out of that...
 
This profile was done with 20 vectors filled with 10 000 random characters =/
 
user1804599
7:46 PM
Sort them! Oh wait.
 
@Rapptz it can
 
SAM
@Borgleader Hi can you tell me which IDE is that?
 
Does it only work with RandomAccessIterators?
 
VS2012 (Ultimate or Professional)
 
7:47 PM
It looks like it
 
Yes, only RandIt
 
@SAM Coliru?
 
@Tuntuni He replied to the wrong message, he's asking about my screenshot from earlier
 
@SAM Oh, the one before (please reply to specific messages, not users). That's Visual Studio.
 
SAM
Ya thanks
 
7:49 PM
lol
thanks Microsoft for the LIVE lunch break!
 
Xeo
wut?
 
@Rapptz wait, rereading how shell sort works, your right. It doesn't seem right at all
 
Xeo
Ah, lol
The program
 
Would a white box over a gray background look bad?
 
That's the hsort part of Shellsort >.>
 
7:50 PM
probably.
 
Xeo
@Borgleader hellsort?
 
What's.. hSort?
 
heapsort.
not hellsort
 
Xeo
7:51 PM
hellsort sounds way more interesting, though
 
hell++'s implementation of std::sort
 
Pretty sure the coursera lectures call it hsort. Its basically insertion sort with a stride.
 
user1804599
boost::process::launch("sh", {"-c", "sort -n"}, ctx) // shell sort!
 
You can do a heap sort in 3 lines with C++
 
@Borgleader gif alert!
 
7:52 PM
maybe less
 
lol wtf... since when does wiki onebox support gifs O.o or have them even
 
Yeah, I'd replace that onebox with a link.
 
@Rapptz Show.
 
std::make_heap(begin, end); std::sort_heap(begin, end);
 
lol.
 
7:52 PM
 
@Rapptz fair enough
 
Slightly NSFW
FYI
 
@TonyTheLion Hawt
 
Yeah, those heap algorithms are interesting.
 
user1804599
@DeadMG sleep sort
 
7:53 PM
@Borgleader Eh, not really.
 
@Borgleader I read parts of it, feel like I get the gist, but have no idea what an hsort is
oh, wait, I got it, it's a single pass with a given h.
yeah?
 
The only diff between insertion sort and hsort is that theres a gap between the elements in hsort. I'm not sure how to explain it any differently =/
 
@TonyTheLion nice board
 
user1804599
/b/ is a nicer board.
 
7:56 PM
@not-rightfold Why?
 
when's the next talk scheduled for?
 
SAM
1:00
 
user1804599
I have a cock.
 
@melak47 1:00 PM their time
 
7:57 PM
@Tuntuni what time is it now, in their time? :D
 
@not-rightfold BBC?
 
user1804599
@Tuntuni BWC
 
@melak47 12:57
 
ah. :)
 
user1804599
Stupid animal walking over my monitor.
 
7:57 PM
@melak47 STL's talk starts at 1:30. Just letting you know. :D
@not-rightfold Your cock?
 
SAM
spider?
 
user1804599
No.
 
user1804599
Some stupid fly.
 
user1804599
It like heat or light.
 
@not-rightfold or maybe it likes annoying you <3
 

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