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10:00 PM
@Griwes true i guess your right
 
Yes, Herb. Look at the android API!
 
loosely coupled libraries
hahah, Boost
is NOT loosely coupled
 
Who's Jim?
2nd from the right?
 
yea
man Andrei looks bored
 
he looked bored as hell yesterday too
 
10:05 PM
hmmmm
has Chandler already given his talk?
 
I think so.
 
or better, was he even a speaker this time?
 
yea
The talk with "dragons".
they changed the schedule again??
 
Xeo
no, that was yesterday
 
PWNED
 
10:07 PM
Oh break :/
OWWWW
 
Skipping comments. lol
HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
 
BURNED
 
win
 
hahahhaha
 
10:07 PM
vote STL for??
 
> as you said we should stop supporting x86, so why does Visual studio ship as a 32 bit binary?
 
hahahahahhahahaha
 
xDDDDDDDDD
 
hahahaha
STL as CEO
7
 
absolutely :D
 
10:07 PM
That'd be funny :D
 
YES
10 minutes more!! o, well, it was awesome :)
 
Oh man. This was gold.
 
yea, the questions weren't that great though
 
user1804599
Hahah.
 
@TonyTheLion mm :(
 
user1804599
10:09 PM
What's the next talk about?
 
Compilahs
 
user1804599
That's kinda broad. :P
 
I think the titles was "The caring and feeding of C++'s dragons"
 
I'm going to watch it
 
Did our comments on that rand() question get removed? /cc @Borgleader @TonyTheLion
 
10:11 PM
@Borgleader That's yesterday's.
 
@Griwes oh
 
@Tuntuni Apparently they did
 
fuck SO hard
 
@Tuntuni they removed the one with the link but not the other one.... which is dumb as hell considering the first was more useful
 
10:11 PM
@TonyTheLion :c
 
@Tuntuni WTF.
 
@Griwes Forgot to include you too, soz :p
 
@TonyTheLion Failed link.
Damn, ten liner is last.
 
works here
 
Xeo
10:14 PM
hm, already past midnight. Guess I won't eat anything tonight.
 
Oh, started working now
I will be sleepy during the ten liner, dammit :F
 
hmmm, my new neighbours have a baby and that baby cries so much I'm starting to wonder what kind of parents these people are
seriously, if your baby cries, do something about it, until it stops crying, don't fucking let it just cry. FFS
 
@TonyTheLion the baby's that loud? wow :/
 
@Tuntuni Flat, and the walls are cardboard in the UK
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion Sometimes, you just gotta let it cry.
 
10:16 PM
@TonyTheLion How long has it been crying for?
 
Xeo
Shouldn't be a common occurence, though
 
It cries a lot
 
@TonyTheLion Hmm maybe I should watch that. Might allow me to make my Shellsort faster... probably not though =/
still should be quite interesting
 
I'm no parent, but I just don't think babies should be crying that much.
@Borgleader I'll probably watch it tomo
 
Xeo
Hm, D&D for me tomorrow
Which means I should be going to sleep now to be awake
 
10:19 PM
I'll be going outside probably
 
@Xeo D&D?
 
I've been outside before, the graphics are great but the story sucks ballz and i fucked up my talent tree.
 
Xeo
Dungeons & Dragons, pen and paper
 
3
A: How do I scale down numbers from rand()?

Justin Niessner int rawRand = rand() % 101; See (for more details): rand - C++ Reference Others have also pointed out that this is not going to give you the best distribution of random numbers possible. If that kind of thing is important in your code, you would have to do: int rawRand = (rand() * 1.0 / RA...

he changed it
upvotes
 
10:21 PM
yeah i un-downvoted him
 
yep, me too
 
did the same
 
@Mysticial are you here?
That yoda picture
 
haha
 
hahaha
 
10:33 PM
This talk seems interesting.
 
i think i’m gonna love this talk
 
It should be "Much fear in you I sense".
 
not a yoda string?
 
Memes... Memes everywhere
 
hahahha
 
10:34 PM
> everwhere
 
> Silicon... silicon everwhere.
 
@Tuntuni everwhere
 
@Xeo some of the d&d rules are almost as complicated as say overload resolution ;-)
 
@Griwes fix'd :D
 
10:34 PM
@TemplateRex s/D&D/D20/
It's not (fully) D&D's fault, Goddammit.
 
@TemplateRex that’s why you have a game master who knows those rules
 
@TemplateRex I don't recall "complicated" so much as "underspecified"/"ambiguous"/"wrong"
 
Imagine playing with STL, rolling with his D19937
 
he rolls with random_device()
 
> except you are not using raw loops
:D
 
10:48 PM
> Let me repeat the question for folks listening online.
Finally!
 
Xeo
So I just dissolved some flavored ice in my Mojito - now it got a nice blue color
 
does this work with range loops?
 
@Xeo is there some sort of BarCraft for GN you attend?
 
Xeo
@Darklighter lol, no
 
@Xeo ^^
 
Xeo
10:51 PM
I like his benchmarking
 
dat printed pages…
 
The talk is really nice.
 
Xeo
It's really clean and focused.
 
Yeah
 
Someone should ask "did you try benchmarking this using Clang?".
 
10:53 PM
LOL
 
Damn, he's good.
 
Yeah, really really good.
 
yeah excellent talk
I am actually studying stuff close to that atm so its also useful
 
Yeah he's great
 
Xeo
enter templates and function objects~
template<class F> void test(F f){ f(3); }
f([]func1); // :D
 
11:02 PM
His slides are pretty too xD
 
might as well tune in
Who is it?
 
@Rapptz Eric Brumer
 
Never heard of him
 
A VC dev I think?
 
yeah, vc optimizer…
 
11:04 PM
> Eric Brumer is a software developer on the Visual C++ compiler team, specializing in code generation, optimization and performance of native code.
 
When he said Modern C++ I was imagining something else lol
 
Xeo
"mordern C++" - I was hoping for templates. :/
 
it might be coming
 
yea lol
 
any c++ is modern compared to c :P
 
Xeo
11:07 PM
I really wanna see the assembly for what I wrote above (in C++11 form)
 
@Borgleader Except when you write C in it.
 
Ugh the server images are not provisioned with VC runtime. Stupid thing.
> Could not load file or assembly 'MySql.Data' or one of its dependencies. The located assembly's manifest definition does not match the assembly reference.
FUN
 
lol Pogo
 
@Xeo There's no check, so it should be faster tbh
 
Xeo
yea
 
11:12 PM
guy clapping got shut down
 
Xeo
That was STL, no?
 
sounded like it
 
got shut down.
 
> STL has a lot of talks on using STL
lol
 
Xeo
@Rapptz Not really
Since he originally talked about killing 32bit architecture :)
 
11:14 PM
Wow that sounds weird out-loud.
A sub-i?
 
yep
huehuehue sub-zero
 
hahahah
 
Stood putters.
 
yeah idk why STL said putter instead of pointer, it's not actually shorter
 
It's a thing.
Holy crap I deployed this thing and it works.
 
Xeo
11:17 PM
@Borgleader Because it's written "ptr" and he likes pronouncing things like they're written. :P
Same for "std" => "stood"
 
I'd say pee-tee-arr
 
@Xeo I've picked that one up actually.
 
@Xeo yeah but stood is slightly shorter to say than standard, putter is exactly as long as pointer
 
i++ o.O^^
 
there's ub in his code
 
Xeo
11:19 PM
how so?
 
@Borgleader It's not about length.
 
upper bound…
 
@Xeo i<ub
 
@Xeo ub
 
ha! :D
 
Xeo
11:19 PM
lol
 
i trik'd u
 
Xeo
okay, got me
 
:P
Well, this was a really interesting talk.
 
He answered a question I couldn't even hear
What a champ.
Did anyone understand the guy's question?
 
nope
 
11:21 PM
I think its the same guy every time, no one understands
 
Xeo
mh
 
lol
10
Good one.
 
restrict isn't even in C++
 
lol
 
Xeo
But in VC, apparently
 
11:23 PM
And C.
He was talking much about C in this talk.
 
That's impressive considering the poor C support there
iirc restrict is C99
 
They said some time ago they want to add some C99 stuff to VC.
Hohoho .NET side of things is working.
 
lol at the last question
 
wow this guy's really great
 
Contributors wanted. We're considering to expand the scope of cppreference to include general educational material. That is, things like this article, or this book, or what's currently here but explained in a way a beginner can understand. Read more here.
Note: if you think you will be able to contribute, please mention yourself in the discussion page. This project won't be started if there's not enough interest, thus if you're willing to help, a simple "me too" message is very valuable.
 
11:33 PM
@Rapptz Link?
 
@Rapptz Puppy should get involved :D
 
whats with the hat?
 
I've seen him before with it too (on other C9 videos).
 
I guess I'll skip this one and dig into my physical memory manager :F
 
Oh.. I knew this was going to be about NuGet
NuGet would have been more valuable if it was cross-platform lol
 
11:43 PM
cdecl and stdcall for x64?
 
@Rapptz It works with Mono.
 
lol Microsoft employee not using IE
 
hehe
 
Guess dogfooding doesn't work when your food is absolute shit. :v
 
xml hurts my eyes :<
 
11:51 PM
Oh they also have a Mac book.
That's even weirder
A macbook running Windows 8
 
> Open source guy at Microsoft
heh
 
This guy's voice sounds like the it guy from Jurassic Park to me
but I could be wrong, I haven't watched the move in ages
 
Here comes Sean. :p
 
oh he is a cowboy
 
LOL channel STL
 
11:53 PM
ahahahaha
how many slides did he say he has?
169?
 
119
 
damn
maybe he'll go 70% lightspeed
 
i heard 196
 
I don't think he will make it 20 mins
 
he probably will, i think those animations are made up of a bunch of slides
 
11:57 PM
yeah, i was just thinking about that
 
This guy's code already fails to compile on MSVC
 

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