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5:00 PM
@sehe hehe
Hmm, it's not the symlinking.
Minimal conf works with or without symlink.
 
Xeo
Hm. Food status: None in the fridge.
 
@sehe Hmm, think I fixed it :/ Needs to be before loading powerline settings.
 
Say, is it too late to give a retort to N3721 "Improvements to std::future<T> and Related APIs"? In the form of a sensible API that doesn't use e.g. the std::future<std::vector<std::future>> idiocy?
 
Did I miss a time when disagreement became grounds for disrespect?
 
user1804599
5:19 PM
hallo @RoelvanUden
 
@LucDanton No.
 
@not-rightfold Hai :3
 
@Pawnguy7 No, it's right here.
 
Good to know.
 
holy fucking shit, I'm so fucking sick.
are those goingnative cunts talking about anything interesting yet?
 
5:22 PM
Thanks for the awesome helpfulness.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG nope
 
@RoelvanUden Any time.
 
@DeadMG I think today won't be very interesting.
 
@StackedCrooked The await and compiler talks look vaguely interesting.
 
Except perhaps for Sean's talk.
@DeadMG Ah, that too.
 
Xeo
5:24 PM
Andrei's talk (which will hopefully be about indices), STL's talk, await, the 10-liner, and Sean's talk
also, the Q&A panel
IMO it's the minority that is uninteresting
 
eh
the indices talk will almost certainly be too entry-level to be of interest to you and me
and the 10-liner, I'd be more interested if he actually told us anything, at all, about what the 10liner does or why it's special.
 
back, what did i miss?
what is this talk
 
Xeo
> I don't like the look or concept of UDLs. Wouldn't it be better to have an 'explicit typedef' so that even though two typedefs have the same underlying type, any attempt to mix usage would cause a compiler error? typedef explicit int Miles; typedef explicit int Kilometres; Miles m = 1; Kilometres k = 2; return m + k; // compile error
"strong typedefs", the 1024th
 
They don't even do the same thing..
@DeadMG Yeah, for most in the room really.
 
Xeo
I somehow doubt we'll ever get strong aliases in C++, tbh :/
atleast not unless they're so highly customizable that nobody knows how to do anything with them
 
5:30 PM
well
 
I absolutely think that the core issue with strong aliases is that nobody really knows what should be done in various corner cases.
 
@Xeo customisable
 
Evening
Damn, I'm tired.
 
Xeo
@Rapptz I'm low on 's', and my 'z' box is overflowing.
 
5:32 PM
Re-read.
 
Xeo
Oh wait, it was about o/u
 
remember when people said www.example.com as "dub dub dub dot"
 
double-u double-u double-u dot is how I used to say it
Now I skip it since it's useless
 
in Icelandic we say "vaff vaff vaff"
which is the letter v
 
So what you're saying is that you're all dogs.
 
5:34 PM
yes
 
does anybody still watch the talk?
 
im not paying attention
its not living to its name
 
I'm watching day9 play Half Life 2
 
I was walking a lecture on Mergesort.
 
I'm staring at my screen :(
 
Ell
5:37 PM
I'm trying to fix my ubuntu box
 
Xeo
I'm pondering on whether I should go shopping or just order something
 
they say, they wanted to enhance battery life with async and quick work burst and stuff, but i have a constant 30 % GPU-Usage in Metro-apps and there’re lags
 
I just ate, burp
I told my compilers class to watch these talks.
 
@Xeo I'm pondering why it is still 19:40.
 
Xeo
Forgot to fix your PC clock? :P
 
5:39 PM
It's 19:39.
 
No, its 17:40
 
SAM
Andrei's time!!
 
No you guys are all wrong... It's 13:40
 
SAM
11:11
 
user1804599
19:42 noobs.
 
5:43 PM
Gosh, I thought I was bored.
 
hi
 
so with Clang for VS, will MS reciprocate by releasing VS for Linux/Apple? :-)
 
SAM
hi
 
@TemplateRex Clang for VS? wut
 
5:46 PM
visual studio?
 
@TemplateRex OH DAMN. Ok it's official I have to watch his talk
 
omg omg omg
 
SAM
Day 1 videos.. still not available to download...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes How was the first week at your new job?
 
5:50 PM
Not my day... the Boost Python documentation, exactly as written, segfaults for me.
The example code therein, that is.
 
almost andrei time
-1 min ago
 
Any1 have a idea to make money online fast?
i have bills to pay
 
beg?
 
my wow account is frozen :(
 
5:52 PM
then unthaw it
 
BalusC, Willemstad, Curaçao
417k 71 961 1269
 
ANDREI TIME
 
he asks for free stuff instead of bounties if you really appreciate his answers
 
yay
 
SAM
Andrei!!!!!!
 
5:54 PM
mayb i should try working
nah will do that next year
 
Yay! Andrei!!!
 
@TemplateRex Oooh, six books in six months. Maybe I should start doing that.
@TonyTheLion Unremarkable. Installing stuff, and now I am setting up a cross-platform build so we can set up a CI server after that.
 
@TemplateRex Damn that looks super fucking interesting,.
 
Talking with the peeps about clang on Windows, though.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh woah
 
5:58 PM
@TemplateRex lol not surprising when you have his amount of rep
 
Xeo
@DeadMG you should watch Chandler's talk
 
@Xeo I would do if I could.
 
@Xeo it's not out :( or i would be doing that right now
actually, no i would be watching scott's talk, but chandler's is next on the list
 
@TonyTheLion Oooh, and I got carte blanche to fix any silly crap I see in the code.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes TeamCity owns. Just saying.
 
6:01 PM
@CatPlusPlus For C++?
 
@Robot your friend is on Andrei's love list
 
I used TeamCity before but for .NET.
 
It's a general CI server.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ohhh nice
 
@TemplateRex ?
 
Bengt Gustafsson
 
Oh. What about it?
 
he was on Andrei's slide, you are not watching now?
 
So that's how Andrei looks like?
 
6:03 PM
raises hand
 
I'm not sure why I expected him to look differently.
 
@chris hahaha
 
@Rapptz wut?? have you never seen an Andrei video??
 
I don't watch talks.
Wtf is forward(t)
That works?
 
this is Bengt's version, using namespace std; hahha
 
Xeo
6:05 PM
no
@Rapptz a typo
 
And Us... should be US &&.... Typos everywhere.
 
@Xeo On the other line he does forward<Us> etc this slide is horrible tbh
 
Anyway, get<I>(t)... is funnier.
 
@DeadMG I'm waiting for the brave souls to test this alpha-release, to actually compile Boost on Win with Clang etc.
 
Here we go.
Yeah, someone pointed it out.
 
SAM
6:08 PM
OMG All you guys simply rock!!! @Xeo @Griwes and all !!!!!!
 
Xeo
wut?
did I miss something?
 
Is Herb's talk in 2 minutes?
 
Not even indices..
 
Xeo
@Tuntuni ya
 
SAM
@Xeo was that to me?
 
6:09 PM
so it's just an argument builder with variadic
 
@Xeo Cool. I can't wait to find out what the 10-liner is and what it does. :) And can't wait for STL's talk too. :D
 
Xeo
@Rapptz I'll post a question about that
 
did he forget decltype in his explode?
 
No
 
Xeo
@TonyTheLion result_of
 
6:10 PM
oh, well I have no idea what I'm talking about
 
@TonyTheLion lol
 
const tuple<Ts...>&>::expand(f, t);
whats with the two >
 
...
 
good god
 
Not a typo
 
6:11 PM
@Griwes no typo
 
This Andrei?
 
The last > is closing Expander<
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes mhm
 
I see it now
@Rapptz is right
 
Oooh, 20:12.
 
6:12 PM
Ok, I wasn't looking at the slide at the moment :P
 
Guess I'm leaving now.
 
terribly formatted
 
Xeo
hf
 
Bye
 
6:13 PM
LOL STL
 
later
 
this is not Andrei's finest hour
 
This talk isn't very interesting :(
 
@chris Hahaha that's him in the background?
 
> You got to tell the solution, man.
 
6:13 PM
Yeah. He said STL.
 
@chris Missed it.
Man, STL's just awesome.
 
lol
 
Is he hungover
 
Quite possibly it seems.
 
Hello guys! My question is about C++/Calling convention. May I post a link to the question in this chat room?
 
6:15 PM
@GeloVolro Did you try LLVM?
 
@Tuntuni No, it's about WinMain method contracts
not about LLVM
 
Try jQuery.
 
I don't know then. :/
 
Dump the Question here
 
@GeloVolro Nooo...
 
6:16 PM
@StackedCrooked Why?
 
Apparently, @ScottW found a girlfriend
 
I don't feel like it.
 
> Probably I should've used Clang.
lol
 
lol
 
LOL
That joke is one of the best things that happened on this GN. :D
 
6:17 PM
I think I'm a few seconds behind.
lol
 
> Andrei::~Andrei();
 
ok
 
OOOH I GET IT
 
the LLVM-VS thing really doesn't work.
 
He destroyed himself by exploding.
 
6:18 PM
@chris :D
 
SAM
OMG You guys point out Andrei's mistakes! You guys are tooo great for me!!!
 
Here comes the 10-liner.
 
another hangover
 
I think everyone's hungover in here
 
lol
 
6:20 PM
WTF is Cinder?
 
no clue
 
Someone used SFML lol
 
but DX wrapper it seems
 
@TonyTheLion A terrible UI framework.
 
@TonyTheLion libcinder.org
 
6:20 PM
oh lol
 
lol this game
 
> Windows Media Player
 
@TonyTheLion he introduced it yesterday as an example for beginner friendly gui-programming
 
lol wtf
 
SAM
lol Laser eyes
 
6:22 PM
@Darklighter oh right
 
These are hilarious.
 
@Rapptz what for?
 
@Pawnguy7 I'm watching this GN thing for some reason and they were showcasing games made in 1 day
 
achievement hunter tshirt
 
@Rapptz Ah. Hopefully someday I can get something done that fast. Also, you will be glad to know, my particles are now stupid, and *implement Drawable.
 
6:25 PM
I'm assuming Cinder is an MS thing?
 
Xeo
no
 
its meant to be cross platform IIRC
 
oh
lol
 
> Cinder is cross-platform, and in general the exact same code works under Mac OS X, Windows and a growing list of other platforms — most recently the iPhone and iPad.
 
GDI
Look, it's me.
 
6:29 PM
Well I've never heard of Cinder either but from what I just saw it sounds nice.
 
@Tuntuni It's not.
their sample code gave me cancer.
 
Puppy doesn't like it, apparently
 
@DeadMG Hahaha. What's wrong with it?
 
@DeadMG I'm sad to hear that you now have cancer.
 
lemme see it
 
6:29 PM
@TonyTheLion It'd probably be a net improvement on my current condition.
 
@DeadMG oh :( :'(
 
> We're all excited to see Sean again.
Guess I'm going to fall asleep again. :'(
 
I'm not
 
Hm anyone who lives in america here?
 
6:30 PM
lol the techies gathering around Sean, setting up his hardware
 
Have... to... stay awake... for STL!!
 
like roadies for a rockstar
 
have a look there
I mean
 
SAM
Whoa! Shaun
 
6:30 PM
two phase initialization- check.
 
@Tuntuni He's just talking about random stuff, what's so exciting about that ;)
 
pointless Application class- check.
 
@DeadMG arrrgghhh raw pointer
 
@SAM Sean :)
 
no control of Main method- check.
 
6:31 PM
@DeadMG ew, i hate those
 
Xeo
@DeadMG that's for a quick start
 
ALL GUI FRAMEWORKS ARE CRAP
 
@FredOverflow Hey hey, don't twist his talk's title! :D
 
if you want good, don't create GUI.
 
@Xeo No, it's their proper class. It's in their reference and everything.
and did I mention that it's a fucking Singleton too?
 
user1804599
6:31 PM
@TonyTheLion s/G//
 
Eew!
 
Xeo
@DeadMG only if you use the basic app, no?
 
API is the best UI.
 
Wow, Sean has put on quite some weight in the last minute!
3
 
6:33 PM
@Xeo If this is their example code, which gives me cancer, I'm sure as hell not gonna look for the minutae of the advanced usage.
 
Revenge of the iron giant.
 
@FredOverflow lol
 
@FredOverflow Ahahahah
 
Found here :)
 
but he did shave
 
6:33 PM
I'm gonna tell everyone else that their API sucks. Because their sample code is full of fail and Singletons.
 
SAM
oops
 
Ugh hiding the event loop is not bad.
 
oh yeah
terrible error handling
std::string p = getOpenFilePath( "", ImageIo::getLoadExtensions() );
if( ! p.empty() ) { // an empty string means the user canceled
seriously guys
 
Sean looks different today.
 
user1804599
@DeadMG lol
 
6:34 PM
We should check to make sure myImage is a valid gl::Texture before attempting to use it. We can do this with a simple if statement:
if( myImage )
    gl::draw( myImage, getWindowBounds() );
 
user1804599
Their spacing is the most horrible thing.
 
so
 
user1804599
Who the fuck puts spaces inside of parentheses.
 
their sample code gives me fucking cancer.
 
6:35 PM
I used to put spaces before the opening function parenthesis, but never inside.
 
user1804599
Who the fuck does that.
 
And I don't see much code with no space after if, for, etc.
 
SAM
Seems like he was running 10 miles...
 
this guy is snoring when awake
6
 
@TemplateRex lol
 
6:36 PM
bloody annoying
 
SAM
LAWL
 
user1804599
@TemplateRex lol
 
user1804599
hrrrrr
 
for $300 for the 2 nights, imagine having a room next to him, boom, now you are glad you stayed at home
 
user1804599
Maybe he's the singer of this band.
 
6:37 PM
hahah
 
SAM
ha ha ha
 
OMG I can't listen anymore
he sounds like he's just run twenty miles
 
if only
more like a stairs of 20 steps
 
user1804599
(function() {
    var image_ = image;
    div.click(function() {
        updateLargeImage(image_);
    });
})();
 
Wtf is he talking about?
 
user1804599
6:38 PM
I need this fucking anonymous function because scoping in JavaScript is absolutely retarded.
 
@not-rightfold The current GN talker does. huehue
 
user1804599
Lambdas in for-loops are so much fun!
 
dat code
 
SAM
OMG what is going on???
 
looks like the average production code out in the real world
 
SAM
6:41 PM
I can't even read the code due to bad vid quality
 
Did the talk schedule just change?
 
not a problem here
 
o.O
 
@Tuntuni I don't know.
 
@Tuntuni it double-changed, the speaker was not available, but then he was
 
6:42 PM
The presenter said await was blocked
 
Well I closed it
 
user1804599
@Darklighter double it{}; ++it; // the it double changed!
 
@Darklighter Man ... Now I won't know for sure if STL's next so I'll have to leave sound on and listen to this guy ...
 
Tell me when there's an interesting talk
 
SAM
@Rapptz seriously!
 
6:44 PM
@Tuntuni it seams STL is delayed half an hour, i think they update the shedule fairly well on the website
 
SAM
Why STL is scheduled so late... :(
 
@Darklighter Yeah but it changed 2 times already so I can't know for sure if STL's talk is really going to be at that time.
 
@not-rightfold double changes within the same expression are UB!
 
And I don't want to miss it. :/
 
STL doesn't drink, so they should have put him first today
 
6:46 PM
did they drink last night?
 
user1804599
@StackedCrooked Are you sure?
 
@not-rightfold I'm 100% uncertain.
 
at least Andrei did, and the first GUI coder called by Herb
 
@TemplateRex Then I couldn't watch his talk. D: School finishes at 7:45 PM (and GN starts at 6:00 PM).
 
user1804599
void foo(double& x) { ++x; }
double x{};
foo(++x); // x changes twice in the same expression!
 
user1804599
6:47 PM
If ++ returns a reference, that is. Not sure. :V
 
@not-rightfold you are too smart, I cannot outsmart you
 
user1804599
How about ++x, ++x?
 
user1804599
Gear uses the comma operator in JavaScript. :)
 
@not-rightfold No, arguments are evaluated before function is called.
 
SAM
Cmon man so boring.... I can't even read the code...
 
6:48 PM
Well, no if you imply it's UB or something. I'm not paying attention.
 
@not-rightfold Isn't ++x one expression and foo(_incremented x_); another?
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus The entire thing is still an expression. :P
 
user1804599
@Tuntuni It's an expression inside of another expression!
 
@not-rightfold express-ception
 
user1804599
@CatPlusPlus Not paying? You'll be jailed for stealing attention!
 
6:51 PM
@not-rightfold but that’s not UB, is it?
 
user1804599
@Darklighter No, of course not.
 
@not-rightfold so it was only about the double-(double)-change
 
user1804599
It's a compile-time error.
 
user1804599
Well, wait.
 
user1804599
It can be UB.
 
user1804599
6:53 PM
If the compiler interprets newlines as newlines, "; }" as "\ua" and "dou" as "bcd".
 
@not-rightfold lol
 
recording available now!
2
 
yay
gonna watch the STL one
 
SAM
6:56 PM
WOW!
 
@TemplateRex YESS!
 
@TemplateRex awesome :D
 
Xeo
This guy is annoying to listen to :/
 
yea
I stopped it
I can't listen
 
SAM
ya thats what
 
Xeo
6:59 PM
Which is a shame, since the content of the talk seems interesting. :(
 
lol, too little screen space
 
user1804599
All those poor guys in the audience.
 
SAM
@Xeo Anyways I can't see the contents... :(
 

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