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1:00 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Call them Part A and Part B.
 
are you writing the Unicode wrapper for Kerostat?
 
I'm writing a general ICU alternative, and it will likely be used first there.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes void method() { preProcessing(); actualMethod(); postProcessing(); }
 
oh wow
 
How did the signatures go? @Drise?
 
1:02 AM
void masturbate () { pre_fap(); orgasm(); post_fap(); }
 
@TonyTheLion ICU is really annoying. It ticks pretty much every one of my gripes on bad C++ libraries.
 
man I have a sick mind
 
@n2liquid I dunno. Ask @Radek when he gets back.
 
@TonyTheLion :)))
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh wow
 
1:02 AM
@TonyTheLion It makes sense since I wrote the gripe list out of frustration from looking at ICU.
 
the RAII of masturbation
@R.MartinhoFernandes I kinda gathered that
lol
 
Just gonna delete that...
 
and then he deleted it
 
Hahahahaha
:D
 
1:04 AM
My reputation is long gone to hell anyways, so I can post pretty much say anything, and everyone will think "oh, it's Tony, we're used to that from him"
 
It is so entertaining that text is one of the bitchiest things to get right while programming.
 
Though I'd probably add a dafuqDidIJustWatch() right before the end of the function.
 
lol
@DomagojPandža yea man, fuck
 
@DomagojPandža Don't mention it.
 
When you think about it, abstracted away, you're typing relatively proper text to get text proper.
 
1:07 AM
@TonyTheLion RAII is for automatic clean-up, no?
 
@LuchianGrigore It's for any action you need to guarantee occurs.
 
@LuchianGrigore And exception safety, well what DeadMG said, propagation.
 
I was replying to "the RAII of masturbation"
:|
I thought I replied to that post
 
Well, there are exceptions while masturbating.
 
1:08 AM
Argh, I may be able to shrink this monster down with some careful thought, but I'm not sure it will look pretty.
 
my statement was copyright
 
oh nevermind
 
I'd rather have a long readable function than a short mess.
 
Your girlfriend coming into the room with some very questionable porn on screen. Well, handling that one is best let everything crash.
 
1:09 AM
Why was the last C++ question almost 1h ago?
WHY?
 
Gosh, you're really addicted.
 
@LuchianGrigore Do you live off C+ questions? Are you having withdrawls?
 
For every upvote I get, a child from a 3rd world country gets food
 
1:10 AM
If you're really itching to help humanity, give the SO questions a rest and pitch in by developing proper text handling and rendering.
 
ahem, you wish
 
@LuchianGrigore I dare you.
 
@LuchianGrigore Wait, really?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes dare me what?
doesn't matter
challenge accepted
 
had question?
Doesn't matter, had energy.
 
1:12 AM
Don't ever use code you find on StackOverflow, and take any advice on there with a grain of salt. All answers on there are voted to the top like YouTube comments; the answer with that green checkmark doesn't mean it's correct or a good idea; it only means it received the most votes, so generally speaking it's a good idea to just not use code you find there.
Am I right?
 
@user1426486 You're an idiot. The question asker has total control over what answer is accepted.
 
It's always a good idea to think.
 
also, we in this chat are full of SO veterans and fully know exactly how the system works
 
That said, the quality on Stack Overflow is not at all comparable to something like YouTube.
 
I was told this on Newgrounds
 
1:14 AM
And @DeadMG moves in for the kill and takes first blood... I mean, new blood.
 
I'm out
ciao
 
Dude... everything you find on the internet needs to be taken with a grain of salt.
@LuchianGrigore night
 
It fits on the screen, and is still readable. I win.
 
Seriously?
 
I didn't realize that xkcd is oneboxed. lol
 
1:15 AM
That's him?
 
Well good night
 
Now, let's see if I can get it to compile.
Wait, what? You don't trust content on Stack Overflow, because someone on Newgrounds told you so?
 
How do you know that you can trust them?
 
Also why are you annoying every active chat room with this drivel?
 
"for people wondering why most hackers use, linex or unix, is because its open source, you can modify (edit) your programs. With windows or mac its written in binary so you cant really do anything. Your going to hit alot of brick walls. Thats the simple explanation" face-palm gotta love youtube.
 
1:20 AM
@ITNinja I was about to say: Linex?
 
@Drise IKR xD
 
Ugh, now I have to write three far-from-trivial iterators. Let's call it a night.
Good night everyone.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes night
 
nightsies
 
@ITNinja I was about to say, until I read that you were quoting someone, I was going to rage all over your face for saying linex.
 
1:21 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes night :)
 
@DeadMG Night
 
no, you nub, it's the robot who's toddling of
do I seem to you like the kind of scrub to hit the sack at 2:21am?
 
Hackers are a myth perpetuated by lousy software engineering practices.
 
dude, they aren't a "myth" in as much as that vulnerabilities created by software engineers do get abused to get remote code execution
one buffer overflow and some free space to put some good shellcode, and BAM!
you can have a remote shell with a reverse TCP connection
 
dafuq?
 
1:25 AM
the fuck is with all the flags?
 
well that dude sure deserves to get banned from the chat
 
who? o.o
 
linex...is that like cleenex?
 
the dude getting flagfested
 
Vanish Oxygen 8
 
1:27 AM
me<1000 rep
 
fuck him
 
Is that program new? No, it was compiled with the new C++11 compliant compiler. pulls out laptop
 
Vanish Doxygen, version 8?
I need to get back to programming
haven't written a line of code in 9999 years
 
I am happy to go back to C++ after the damn Haskell parade.
 
haskell parade?
 
1:29 AM
@DeadMG Wrote a programming in it, a small purely deterministic (unbiased) micro raytracer (i46.tinypic.com/qzn89d.jpg)
 
@DeadMG I wrote some Haskell today, I beat you to it :)
 
I don't feel that Haskell can be used for anything large.
C++ wins.
 
agre
 
no, I want to learn it so I know the paradigm of functional programming
and can think with it
 
@DomagojPandža I dont write it for anything useful really, i just write it for fun :P
 
1:31 AM
better stick to the Standard algorithms with some lambdas.
 
There isn't much to it, some nice ideas and the rest of it is Haskell failing at emulating imperative languages with the idea of monads.
 
And overloading. AHAHAHAHAH. Want to override Num and get + for vecops?
FUCK YOU, first overload things that don't even apply to it, because the Num class DEMANDS IT.
 
man
Qt has that QApplication bullshit, right?
and you have to use moc if you want to get anywhere with it
 
1:34 AM
It is amazing that herpderps manage to kick out software that is used globally by even more herpderps.
So much bad software and APIs.
 
agree
writing the user interface code is the main stumble I'm looking at for writing any application now
 
@TonyTheLion That was mesmerizing.
 
if it was ASCII maybe I could do it myself
but a Unicode UI? yeeeeowch
 
I hate text. I hate it from the bottom of my soul.
 
writing ANY code is the main stumble block I'm looking at for writing an application now
 
1:37 AM
@DomagojPandža Agree
but even text isn't as bad as displaying text
 
@DeadMG If I remember correctly, yeah, you absolutely need moc, as the data produced by it is used to link signals with slots.
 
Stochastic subsurface scattering? Sure thing. Global illumination? Sure thing. In realtime? I'll give you 70 FPS on a high end machine. Text rendering? Pass.
 
what I need to do
 
@DeadMG That's why I stick to libraries and command-line tools :P
@DomagojPandža Wuss.
 
is write a GUI library on top of DirectWrite.
and Direct2D.
 
although I'd be fucked if I had to support XP
 
Somebody still uses XP?
 
lol
 
I mean, Windows Vista was a failure, but Windows 7 is gold.
 
agreed
 
1:41 AM
"We are a **modern** company..."
"Why don't you move to <something>?"
"*Legacy* code."
 
lol
 
So modern.
 
The Internet: Another reason not to go to bed
 
How do you recognize a C++ Windows developer?
His caps lock is worn off. -.-'
D3DSUCKMYDICK_CAPSLOCK
 
@DomagojPandža lol, totally.
But
you've used an underscore there, that's illegal
it improves clarity.
 
1:44 AM
Hahah, yeah, sausage fest at Microsoft.
 
But come to think of it, OpenGL also has horrible type names like that.
 
Well, OpenGL is a C API, if it weren't terrible, we'd all have to move to LOUNGE(C); and mock Lounge<C++>
DirectX takes the fall because it promises the COM-based interface-based approach littered with naked point0rz.
 
@DomagojPandža Look at thiiiiiiiiiiis, grrrr: opengl.org/wiki/Load_OpenGL_Functions
 
PFNGLUSEPROGRAMPROC what? Don't say that 'bout mommy!
 
1:46 AM
Retrieving functions, hahahah. Yeah, that shit sucks some hardcore dick.
"It is good, allows for extensions."
 
lol
 
And now we all must capture function pointers from queries to actually use trivial parts of the API.
But, we can always write them wrappers. But - for a world-class API - can't they do it right?
 
Yeah..
brb
 
It is laughable that the average John Doe usually owns the entire OGL ARB.
Architecture Review Board. Architecture. Review. OpenGL has seen neither in the past 20 years.
The only thing that sort of rubs me the right way is OpenGL ES 2.0
Why in hell is this Pitbull "singer" famous?
 
@DomagojPandža Pffft. L2P.
a little C++11 and helpers, and that shit goes away relatively easy.
 
1:53 AM
Yeah, but I did that. Not them. That's what bothers me, in my dreamland, people came together to improve APIs and code worldwide. And also, PHP was killed by a raging rainbow-shitting unicorn.
It was intense.
 
very true
but it's one hell of a lot better than OGL.
 
Can't agree more. It's not impossible to wrap it, but it is not pleasant at all (OGL).
 
Brilliant.
 
honestly, never had that many problems with COM wrapping
 
1:57 AM
imagine having a name like that?
 
My primary beef with all of Microsoft issued APIs is the caps lock crap. Then the LPCWSTR and all other shit.
And "long pointers to void"
LPVOID
I hate 16-bit legacy.
 
yea FUCK 16 bit
 
Long Pointer to a Character Wide STRing
it's retarded
 
yep
I went think someone went full retard when he invented that
 
And then you have parts of the API
that talk with wide char strings
and others that talk with "char strings"
 
1:59 AM
char strings?
oh strings of chars
lol
 

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