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Does anybody here have an opinion on Meteor?
23:03
I don't use it, but I hear mostly negative opinions of it.
in the top right, search "Meteor" and you'll get a few
@SterlingArcher might. Just maybe.
I think. Maybe I am thinking of MEAN
no.. that's just express and friends
Oct 11 at 14:53, by Sterling Archer
fuck meteor
sigh
I'm being forced to use Meteor for my class right now
and I really really really don't like it
I feel like it's very gimmicky
23:05
meh, if it's just a class..
@Luggage It's much more than just a class at this point
He wants to use "athletic software engineering"
Does anyone watch cnn and or fox news?
Unexpected token "programming" near "athletic".
This means he throws homework at us every 2 days or so
23:07
@Traitor No, they broadcast just for the fun of it. It doesn't actually go to anyone's TV.
and then we do coding challenges every class
But it's Meteor and I don't really understand all the moving pieces...
Keep in mind that I'm coming from a C++ background and prog lang interpreters, so... I get complexity I guess. But the management system is confusing
I havent kept up with news since trumps campain, those were good times
@Luggage that is golden
23:12
@VermillionAzure dont fucking use meteor
@SterlingArcher You don't understand
although if its for a class, you kinda have no choice
I'm being held against my own will
I don't have a choice...
you could say you're stuck between a meteor and a hard place
@VermillionAzure Blink once for yes, twice for no
23:13
Tell your teacher a senior engineer who spent his last year working with meteor says DONT USE IT
@KendallFrey blink blink blink blink blink blink
@SterlingArcher wait lol for who?
uhhhh, shit
@derp He asked for a reflective essay
23:14
hahaha that pic is gold
The title of mine was "A Meteor Once Killed the Dinosaurs. Will MeteorJS kill us?"
what kind of programming class asks for an essay??
it was tongue-in-cheek because I didn't really rip it that much but bah
@derp A class that has a writing-intensive requirement injected into it
I did an entire presentation to my company about why meteorjs sucks
i mean, i write essays all the time about the tools i use here at work
23:15
....is this a sales class for selling software?
submit them to my manager weekly
I pissed off the guy who chose it
Lol the pic
!!afk drunk cleaning because fuck Gene
!!s/ff/n/
23:15
@KendallFrey I pissed on the guy who chose it (source)
I literally put this in the presentation
Why does meteorjs suck?
@Traitor BECAUSE IT'S BLOATED
AND IT'S NOT JUST THAT
23:18
CI/CD is a fucking nightmare with Meteor
> NodeJS version bound to MeteorJS version
fun
Low on community experts.... thats the nail in the coffin for me
huh TIL
Meteor has its own templating system, stresses reactivity above everything, and has its own package manager and tries to use its own strange community-packages for everything
those all sound like opinions
23:19
That's like, just your opinion, man.
Its like iOS
!!afk noop :D
@Traitor because it just does
lol seriously gotta go clean
Well anyways
What can I do? I gotta learn Meteor fast and I gotta do it to please the class
23:19
Ewwww
I feel like I can't start small with Meteor and everything is too big
@SterlingArcher Can you recommend something to bring me from 0 to hero?
Axe body spray.
We have already gone through the tutorials and now it's just the fire
Lol
So people use meteorjs for...?
opinions on these brown seats: snag.gy/13vArM.jpg ?
23:35
lol why is it old people always have issues with technology
my dad has a hotmail account, which is now under outlook.com. outlook.com has an unlimited inbox size. but he is receiving inbox full warnings.
he always managed to get these sorts of problems lol
lol
it's because old people have a certain mentality
the mentality of not needing to work hard for things anymore
why should they work hard to learn new things when the old way worked
lol
we call those people users :P
23:50
arggh
its thursday T_T
is there any way to set a property of an object to readonly, so that strict mode won't throw an error if something tries to override?
without using a proxy. Just setting descriptor writable to false will throw an error
im just gona throw out what came to mind
'const' 'let'
im wrong probably
@jAndy You mean setting it would just silently ignore the value?
yes
like a frozen property
Sounds like an empty setter would do the trick
23:55
ssomething liek this?
https://jsfiddle.net/md9t3u0u/
old people get tripped up by alerts, warnings and pop up scams. it's funny. never let one use your computer
oh wait, so it WON"T throw an erorr
indeed, that's done the trick @KendallFrey. Does that play save cross-browser/platform? O_o
var foo = Object.create( null );

    Object.defineProperty(foo, 'test', {
        enumerable: true,
        configurable: true,
        get: function() {
            return 'THE GAME FOREVER'
        },
        set: function() {

        }
    });
"play save"?
I mean is this reliable
somehow it feels odd
23:59
It should work anywhere get and set functions are supported

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