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I don't have an issue with warrants being required for audio/video surveillance. However, immediately implying that they're acting outside their legal jurisdiction just because they have the capability is a different issue.
 
well, it's true that cops will just use a technology before we decide on if we need warrants or not
 
@Trasiva also I guess I was confusing the disallowed use of it by the DoJ in September of 2015 for all federal agencies without warrants
 
and some agencies have abused it. No idea how wide spread that is
 
Any agency that uses a stingray, but doesn't report the stingray use in any police reports is abusing it
 
6:02 PM
@Luggage Right, and that's where there the law has to learn to grow and adapt to new technologies.
 
yea.
Cops can sit and watch people go by, so from their point of view using a little bit of tech to do that for them might not seem like sometyhing they need to report, until it is.
 
Because they are then using it for parallel construction. The reason they don't put it in the report is because then they can be challenged and it will go to court and become illegal usage
 
Eh, there'll always be law enforcement who do shady things, but I still believe most of them run things above board and that happens less often than you'd think.
 
You sound a bit too trusting, @Trasiva and you not trusting enough, @Vap0r
maybe 'trusting' is the wrong word.
cynical?
bah
 
@Trasiva oh I'm not an anti-police person, I just tend to notice when a local PD shows up in an article about possible domestic spying littered with military and DEA and all kinds of spooky agencies
 
6:07 PM
@Luggage There's enough regulatory overhead that I feel like if there's any 'parallel construction' leading to an improper conviction, that in this day in age it'll be caught somewhere in the due process.
 
I don't trust Palm Beach County cops
@Trasiva our law states that any conviction achieved through "parallel construction" is an improper one
 
@Vap0r Which means it was caught, and will be overturned.
 
It means that if it's caught, it'll be overturned
 
@Loktar so what's a good infil perc and layer height to test with for the first print?
20% / .2 ??
 
There are enough cases of cops planting evidence, the DA withholding evidence that proves you innocent, etc, that corruption is everywhere and can happen to anyone. But.. we're still better off than many other places in the world.
And we still ahve parts of the system trying to clean itself.
 
6:11 PM
Which is my point.
 
@Luggage I'm not interested in exposing corruption I don't really care. It's necessary. I just want to know what they're doing
 
Aren't those the same?
We all care about an 'above board' due process, it seems.
 
exposing vs being aware is very different I feel
I just want to know the truth.
 
You think you're going to know what those three letter agencies/military are doing with their toys in the sky?
 
@rlemon 20% should be just fine, and .2 is fine but you shouldn't have any problems with .1
 
6:12 PM
@Trasiva no but that doesn't mean I should be resigned to seeking information
So what if I have no impact?
 
I'd only use .2 for something that was really time constrained or didn't matter on quality
 
I used to watch the news to be informed, and I feel like I'm more misinformed now when I do. I used to read reddit for the same reason, and then realized it's easily influenced. I want good sources of interesting news.
 
@KendallFrey would 15% be safe for the small tug benchy?
 
depends on the pattern, probably
 
Oi folks, what is your favorite terminal for linux?
 
6:14 PM
The most important thing about non-structural infill is the size of the gaps
 
@KendallFrey pattern? where do I select that?
 
Umm sec
 
RTFM
 
I would pay $200 to know with %95 certainty the details of the coupe attempt in Turkey @Luggage
 
@Luggage I have been. they don't help
 
6:15 PM
Send me the money, then I'll tell you.
 
@rlemon Infill > Infill Pattern in Cura
probably hidden by default
 
@Luggage lol but seriously, It's interesting. Politics is probably the most fucked up, scary, and complicated game of chess that exists today. I don't wanna be a player but I'd like to be an informed observer
 
@Vap0r I mean, you're more than welcome to file a Freedom of Information act about classified equipment, however just expect to be given a polite 'Thanks for your inquiry, but you can go fuck right off
 
ohh fuck
@KendallFrey didn't even see the gear at first
90% of the options are hidden
helpful
 
yeah there's a ton of advanced stuff
 
6:17 PM
@Trasiva I know enough about that process to not even bother. Though the upcoming JFK files should be interesting if there isn't a last minute move to block them
 
it's stupid you have to hover to see there is an options for the panel
 
The thing about infill is that you can get different size gaps with the same percent
 
like seriously
you have to hover the header to see the menu icon
stupid af
 
I think the default switches between patterns depending on density, which I didn't like
 
With enough info you can make inferences about the world that others can't. It just gives you a new lense to view the world through, no matter how depressing the lense is.
 
6:18 PM
My favourite pattern is Triangles
 
Shouldn't node wait till a device is ready before it starts reading ?
 
Triangles is default for me
 
@ShrekOverflow $(device).ready(readFunc);
 
@Vap0r stop trolling. That's not even funny.
 
@rlemon It might be calculated
 
6:20 PM
if what I'm seeing in these google images is correct, zig zag looks sex
 
@rlemon IIRC you work with serial ports, do you use node :D ?
 
But I don't think mine ever used that by default
 
@ShrekOverflow haha no but are there any constructs in the language that hint on whether the device is ready to read from?
 
@ShrekOverflow yes
@KendallFrey maybe the printer?
 
@rlemon Do you use node-serialport ?
 
6:21 PM
Could be, but wouldn't have expected that
@rlemon I think that was the one I didn't really like
 
@ShrekOverflow yes
 
Because it only does half the infill every layer
Maybe good for saving filament, idk
Gradual Infill Steps is good to play with once you're comfortable, it lets you use less infill in the middle but still support the top surface
 
ahhh no not zigzag
I'm looking at 'hilbert curve'
for top/bottom fill pattern
damn, don't see it in cura
 
I made a jigsaw puzzle based on the Hilbert curve
it's really good
You've seen the wooden one where the pieces disappear?
 
what's the easiest way to generate some hundreds of git branches? They don't need to have different changes, I can do that with a loop, just a change.
 
6:27 PM
You mean they should all point to different commits?
 
@rlemon mind trying out something on linux for me :) ?
 
they don't need to, I think just having branches will be enough
 
Hey all! :) How's life?
 
@ShrekOverflow depends on what it is
ask your question shrek
 
6:29 PM
Can you make a tap device on linux and try attaching a node process to it?
I can send code :D
 
the fuck is a tap device?
 
A virtual network card
basically instead of piping data to wire
kernel gives it to a userspace program
 
how about this, what serial port problem are you having?
maybe I can help without setting up something myself.
because I'm like knee deep into some Cura tuts
 
my current state of coding habits is pretty annoying. Either I have no intention nor motivation at all... OR... I code for like 8 hours straight without eating or drinking.
 
also, @KendallFrey @Loktar I'm totally going to call it Cuda pretty much every time
 
6:31 PM
You really want to print with your GPU don't you
 
@rlemon no worries then, I am setting up a box on do :)
 
@KendallFrey yea idk. just what my brain wants it to be called
 
but in short I am trying to read from /dev/tap0
which works fine in python
 
The only thing your Cuda cores can print is a house fire.
 
but in node it throws an IO Error
 
6:32 PM
Well tell your brain to get fucked
 
what error are you getting in node
ahh
 
then use python
 
what is your node code
 
because the device is not ready before node starts reading it
@ssube for a network card :?
while the entire app is written in node
 
@ShrekOverflow that has no serial port code
 
6:34 PM
my python skills are subpar at best
yeah :P I am looking at serialport now
cause it reads from dev/*
but i doubt this is even serialport logic :P
[mostly want to see what its doing to wait till it starts reading]
ideally I'd call select to know when the fd is ready to read
 
Serialport its pretty simple, I think it sends over a buffer of data that you have to read in
 
Thats perfect!
@SterlingArcher ^ add that to the bottom of the image
 
@hilli_micha crap music is crap music
 
6:39 PM
Damn, Fitlhy Frank breaking away from being a meme.
 
@SterlingArcher oh ffs
 
@ShrekOverflow so it's a domain socket?
 
@SterlingArcher Thats mercuriy though
@rlemon nope its just a simple file apparently :?
 
@ShrekOverflow Say what you will, it's surprising that Joji is doing well outside of his Pink Guy stuff.
 
@ShrekOverflow try reading it with net
 
6:40 PM
At least from a numbers standpoint.
 
Actually it might be galleum
 
net.createConnection I guess
 
@hilli_micha It's still crap music (all of it)
 
if stuff is being piped to it
 
@rlemon nope
that won't work either
 
6:41 PM
then I have no clue what you're doing.
sorry
 
tried to use it as a domain socket
as the first idea
I feel like such a help troll (trolls are immune to vampirism, it comes installed with core)
 
@ShrekOverflow and?
 
@rlemon His somewhat biological parts would start dying
 
he doesn't cum from his head
robocop is human face and brain on a robot
 
6:44 PM
@SterlingArcher 90% the honda hit him in the lot then took off.
after taking his plates I guess
 
truck took 1 dmg
 
not even
 
Truck has like 10,000 health
 
Honda Exp +10000, Honda has quit the game
 
@rlemon No way, the chrome on that tow hitch ball will never be the same again
That's virtually totaled imo
 
6:46 PM
lol
 
To be fair though, if you're not using that tow hitch, take it the fuck off.
 
@KendallFrey have you cringed yet today/?
 
probably
?
 
There is stupid, there is very stupid, there is incredibly stupid and then there is Amanda Holden 😂😂😂 #ThisMorning #TimPeake https://t.co/fwQOM1X2KH
 
ouch
 
6:52 PM
@rlemon print dependent really
I was doing .1 to test
infill is just about the strength of the print when it's done
I think the benchy has some suggested settings though
obv you want to keep them the same as you test to dial everything in though
 
@rlemon I just heard millions of brain cells screaming in pain all at once, before they were violently silenced with that stupidity.
 
I printed my benchies at 50% to test faster heh
 
@Loktar I disagree :P Super important for supporting top surfaces
 
@KendallFrey that too, but again dependent on the print
I've printed top layers fine with no infill though
 
@Loktar 50%... infill?
 
6:53 PM
I just up the number of top layers
no haha 50% size
I've never gone above 30% infill for anything
 
Doesn't that basically defeat the purpose?
 
top layers are way faster on a large print than infill
ooh you mean the 50%, not for me idk it was fine to dial things in
I then printed a full size one
 
you know what, fuck infill, I'm printing a vase
 
Those are quick
As long as you use vase mode
 
yeah ^
 
6:55 PM
(spiralize outer contour)
 
OK the error was due to OSX Madness
 
yea the tuts talk about vase mode
you can print cool rockets in vase mode
 
I printed a boat almost the height of the printer only took 4 hours
you just want to increase your extrusion width a bit
 
like this in vase mode is apparently pretty quick
even at 400mm tall
 
yea
just know it's not super strong
 
6:56 PM
@Loktar What would you normally use? I go 1.2mm even with normal levels of infill
 
for anything with good quality I do 0.8-1.2
 
Yeah a single layer is even pretty bendy
 
guess I'll find out tomorrow
god, it's like christmas eve
 
haha
 
@Loktar Big prints are when I'd use the stepped infill levels
 
6:57 PM
I'm going home and straight to bed
 
@KendallFrey stepped?
I haven't done that
you mean decreasing as it goes up?
 
34 mins ago, by Kendall Frey
Gradual Infill Steps is good to play with once you're comfortable, it lets you use less infill in the middle but still support the top surface
 
I need to find that option in simplify
I might just have to do multiple processes within the print to do it though and specify layer heights
 
Basically, it uses half infill below, say, 1cm below the top, a quarter infill below 2cm, etc.
 
the help text for gradual infill says it just increases the amount of infill density as you move closer to the top
 
6:59 PM
I've only ever used one step, for half infill
 
ah, I wanted the opposite for mine, but tbh even 5% infill has been enough for the alien
along with 2 outer layers
 
the opposite?
 
yeah I wanted it to decrease infill as it climbed
 
hot damn idk how you'd get a flat surface with 5%
@Loktar but why?
 
my bridging is great 😉
 
7:00 PM
mine isn't
 
he wants a bottom heavy alien
 
because the lower part of the model supports most of the weight
the feet/legs, the head for example I'm just goign to do 3 outer layers and 0% infill
 
I get bubbles/blisters over gaps
@Loktar infill isn't gonna be supporting much weight though is it?
Or do you just mean stabilizing the shell
 
yeah stabalizing the shell
I wanted to do like 5% to 2% as it climbed
 
what if I like a floppy shell?
 
7:02 PM
Yeah not gonna lie I've never been able to get really good bridging with the A8, I typically need a pretty decent infill to hold it together. That may be something I'm doing wrong with it.
 
!!lenny
 
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 
one torso piece used more than 50% of a filament roll lol
it's actually quite heavy
wanted to reduce the infill on that badboy as it climbed, but oh well
 
@Loktar so after halloween, 3d scan yourself and make a mini-me
 
when all said and done the alien will have used almost 3 full rolls
@rlemon going to scan the kids just so one day they can stand in VR next to their younger selves
 
7:03 PM
I've used like 1 roll total so far
 
how cool / weird would that be?
 
weird
but kinda cool
 
@KendallFrey damn dude I've used like 6 haha
 
but super weird
 
lmao yeah @rlemon that's what I was thinking, esp if you rigged the model and let them do ragdoll stuff
 
7:04 PM
@Loktar I saw you liked the post of the guy with like 30 rolls in a pile
 
hah yeah that is insane man
idk I think I might print a starcraft marine next
at around the same height as the alien
 
once I buy enough pla that it is more than the cost of the printer.. I have a problem
 
maybe taller idk, but that shit will be cool
 
@rlemon That shouldn't take too long if you keep at it
 
@Loktar honestly, my first 'big' project I have in mind is turning one of my fishtanks into a dungeon setting.
 
7:05 PM
has some nice purchasable models
 
@KendallFrey I mean at once.
 
legit dude had like 30 full rolls in a pile
 
BTW did you notice Cura tells you the cost of a print?
 
crazy
 
7:06 PM
@KendallFrey yeah this guy got some deal on 20 rolls or so, was crazy
 
@KendallFrey I did not, just kinda poked around the options and the controls
 
was still quite a chunk of money.
 
it'd be nice if this were active
 
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problem solved
 
lmao
 
7:07 PM
noice
 
yeah I feel bad when we dominate the room with these discussions.. but as long as no one really cares I guess
 
If I had FB I'd join the group
 
I got FB so I could join the group
and post memes
 
yeah well you're weak-willed
:P
 
7:11 PM
dude, dank FB memes
 
lol
 
@rlemon Oh snap, I need more rep to be a room owner?
 
apparently
 
you mean to create a room?
 
at least 100
 
7:14 PM
I didn't know there was a rep requirement
 
or was it 200 ?
I think it said 100
yea 100
> Users must have at least 100 reputation to be a room owner
 
huh, TIL
 
Oh my god this is amazing
 
I wish I could have different vscode styles based on the scaling of the monitor it's on
 
make it so
 
7:18 PM
Or hell, just hit up Microsoft, they update it so frequently it could very well make it in there.
 
> spooky_input blocks program execution until the user inputs in a line. It returns the value of the user input. Guess what - if your user doesn’t input in something spooky… We crash it! We crash your program! Spooky complete!
 
oi im back
mr server is up!
@rlemon your dark addon also works on chromium, right?
 
7:35 PM
@Cereal Not scary enough
 
@KamilSolecki maybe
 
now imagine Java with Emojis
 
sweet
now I need dark gh
 
🏛 SomeClass {
    public ⏱ 🚽 🤡(String args[]){
    }
}
 
@KamilSolecki 1 sec
nvm
 
7:36 PM
github.com/StylishThemes/GitHub-Dark this the one ive been using since forever
its just right
 
I guess I dont' have a dark theme for GH atm
 
the white on GH is just too much for me man
 
yea I used to have a dark theme
 
🏛 SomeClass {
    🏞 ⏱ 🚽 🤡(🎻 args[]){
    }
}
 
I disable them when gh changes styles and breaks my shit
 
7:39 PM
oh yeah, that
 
yay it works!
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Thanks @rlemon @ssube :P
 
I literally did nothing to help
I made two wrong suggestions
 
even mistakes can be helpful
 
now I need to decide which terminal I want
 
@KamilSolecki iTerm2
or Hyper on any other OS (if you have a GPU)
 
7:46 PM
nah its integrated gpu
 
If you have a new computer use Hyper
 
does it come with a multiplexer or I need to get one separate?
 
if not it'll lag like shit
but YMMV
My expectations are too high and chrome feels laggy to me on a macbook
 
yeah spec-wise I should be all fine, I built this rig like 3 days ago :D
 
how the hell did this question get 4 upvotes in 3 minutes
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7:53 PM
What does iTerm2 have that you use that Terminal.app doesn't? Just curious. So many people use iTerm 2 but I haven't heard why they need it.
 
Anyone here know three.js?
 
@redfelix ish
 
@KevinB and 4 stars
 
Are you familiar with the loader? Importing obj or dae files
 
nope
 
7:55 PM
What about changing texture?
 
Maybe. It's been a while.
Never hurts to just ask.
 
i suspect the user that answered and edited the question is somehow related to the asker
 
ok. I 'm trying to change the texture of a model I uploaded and it doesn't seem to change.
 
Do you need to tell it to refresh/reload?
 
I tried the basicmaterial way
 
7:57 PM
I recall some things don't automatically detect changes
 
I don't think so.
 
Is there profits of using Docker when Iḿ the only one working on the projects?
 

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