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5:02 PM
He was kicked the other day
Maybe it's using that
 
5:13 PM
FUGGGG The Outer Worlds isn't coming to Steam for another year because of timed exclusivity
 
Yeah, Manifold Garden just got released on Epic. I was waiting for that one.
 
@AlRey Yeah, its funny because the devs were working on adding steam achievements up until it was announced
 
I mean...I guess Xbox achievements would work just as well
but blah so there's basically no way for me to make this run on Wine now ffs
 
You just know that, that decision was made by someone who didn't know anything about the development timeline as well
 
5:17 PM
if I do get Outer Worlds within the next year, it would be the second game I've gotten through the MS store...the first being Recore
 
I don't understand why studios go to Epic with all the hatred it garners. Do they really get more money? I understand they get a higher percentage but does it really equate to a higher dollar amount?
 
yeah they also get free spyware tools and being part of the Epic community makes their Chinese friends happy ^^
 
You'll probably find it was the "exclusive" bit that got them shit loads of money
 
I heard it was a giant lump sum, too, enough to take a bunch of the worry out of developing a game
 
The most frustrating thing about the Epic store for me right now is Shenmue 3...
 
5:19 PM
like, if I was the Cuphead guys, and my choice was a deal with Epic or mortgaging my house, I know what I'd pick
 
if it's on Epic and nobody buys it, Shenmue 4 may never happen
 
@Grace I mean that's a fair statement
 
I hate Epic as much as the next guy, but there's no evidence of spyware in their client
 
wasn't there an article of Tim Sweeny giving user info to China?
 
Do you have any idea how many people have been going over the Epic client and its network traffic with a fine toothed comb ever since it was released? It's a garbage client, but it's not malware.
I admit I take their free games, but I'm not giving them any money.
 
5:23 PM
alright so I guess the article was more about Epic being partnered with Tencent......call me a racist, but I feel that makes them guilty by association
 
I remember reading something about the epic client getting information from the steam client cache or something
 
Fucking slow processes hurrrrrr
 
basically it was getting information from a public folder on your computer
But its kind of a nono
 
I mean
It's kinda Valve's fault
 
user10864482
any fortnite player?
 
5:37 PM
@CaptainSquirrel I seem to remember that being a complete non issue, whatever it was. Something about importing your friends list to the Epic store. Non-nefarious.
 
Don't play fortnite; too busy having sex
 
user10864482
there is a class suit where i live . People are basically sayin fornite is addictive and break live, gosh. I wish people would take more responsibility for their own action
 
I mean video game addiction is now classified as a real illness :P
 
I'm not so sure that's true.
 
user10864482
it's not by dsm anyway. it's regarded as a social issue dough
 
@MikeTheLiar it is a--oh yep lol
 
user10864482
the same could be said regarding... caffeine . o'rly?
 
Inclusion in the DSM is an imperfect metric to be sure, but it's really the only one we've got as to whether or not something is an actual illness
@user10864482 A disorder requires significant harm to befall the addicted party
 
user10864482
true. on the bright side of things, it would mean more research, more data, and probably a budget attached to it
 
5:42 PM
That - and insurance coverage - are both huge benefits to being included in the DSM
 
user10864482
i was surprised to see the rating for fortnite, considering its a game about killing everyone else
 
video game addiction was put on the list of mental illnesses the same day gender dysphoria was taken off
yeah, stuff like that tends to happen when you start a harassment campaign and call it "gamergate"
 
user10864482
@AlRey harassment campaign?
 
yea
 
user10864482
i listened to an old radio show and they were talking about pac-man like if it was evil shit
 
user10864482
5:46 PM
@AlRey gender thing or gamergate?
 
of course it's evil; vore bad!
was referring to gamergate...how it started as people trying to make gaming journalism great again (despite the fact that it was never good in the first place) and then turned into an excuse for alt-right trolls to hide behind video games to attack women
 
user10864482
@AlRey didn't see that
 
well, it happened
 
Ben Popper on October 22, 2019

I’ve spent the better part of the last decade immersed in the world of technology. I could give a lengthy lecture on the history of LIDAR and the future of self-driving cars. I could explain what’s so fascinating about artificial intelligence that can beat humans in poker and why we shouldn’t be afraid of robot overlords just yet. I’ve got a cocktail party’s worth of witty things to say about the potential for brain-computer interfaces and our very cybernetic future. Despite all my years as a journalist covering technology, however, the closest I got to working on the code that makes all  …

 
just look at what happened to Anita Sarkeesian and that other lady
and now we're at a point where the most popular twitch streamers are cleavage girls
 
user10864482
5:50 PM
another thing i dont understand; watching people playing game...
 
video game?
 
user10864482
@erotavlas yes
 
usually htat kind of thing is only appealing if the person playing is actually entertaining to watch -- i.e. pewdiepie :P
 
user10864482
another thing that i don't get; e-sport
 
but let'splays are a dying art....just look at game grumps
 
user47589
5:54 PM
I enjoy "let's play" videos of games from my childhood.
 
ye I remember watching a bunch of SGB plays :P
 
user47589
I do not understand let's play of modern games.
 
Maybe if your hardware couldn't run it but you wanted the experience.
People seem to like watching other people play spooky games, there's probably something there.
 
i don't understand anything you guys are talking about :)
wth is let's play?
 
user47589
I can sort of see that.
 
6:02 PM
it's where someone films or documents themselves playing a game and releases it as entertainment
 
user47589
Let's Play is a video where someone plays a game, usually with commentary.
 
oh
 
I've watched Let's Plays of particularly good players playing especially complicated games to get an idea of what I'm supposed to actually be doing.
 
It's kinda dumb
 
are there lets play of board games?
 
6:04 PM
Mostly I just learned I was playing a very different game of Factorio than people who know what they're doing.
 
Probably
 
hungry hungry hippos ?
or chess?
 
@erotavlas there are at least a few groups that stream their table-top sessions, like DnD games.
 
user47589
I love Factorio
 
user47589
I used to be one of those D&D streamers.
 
6:05 PM
let's play - solitaire :)
 
What was it like?
 
user47589
To clarify, my DM did the streaming, not me.
 
user47589
I didn't care for it.
 
Seems like a lot of pressure.
 
user47589
When people know they're being observed, behavior changes.
 
user10864482
6:12 PM
@Amy it's true on so many level
 
lets play - rock paper scissors
 
Kotlin is blowing my mind. Mostly with how badly I'm doing on these katas, but the language features are real nice.
 
isn't a kata from Japanese martial arts like karate?
 
user47589
Yes.
 
user47589
A kata is a training exercise
 
6:20 PM
I mean people already watch let's plays of chess :P
 
we should stream our coding work
what would we call it? 'let's …. '?
 
I need to connect to a table that has no primary key but has a unique value. I have tried using the [Key] attribute but I get a The data reader is incompatible with the specified 'Project.DBContext.Controller'.
is there a workaround for this?
 
user10864482
@Skullomania yes, write a proper table /s
 
no hope there. Its a db that I am inheriting
 
create new database, port the data over, delete old database
 
6:28 PM
its a prod database. Doing this is not an option
 
user10864482
could be a great moment to introduce some constraint too
 
see this is getting exciting, we should stream this! :)
 
user10864482
if there is no key it's not a table /s
 
there is a unique key but not a primary key
 
user10864482
yes but to work around that will create a lot of suffering
 
user10864482
6:30 PM
it look like the data model is broken
 
im willing to go through the trouble
 
i thought if there is no primary key defined the first unique column acts as one
 
user10864482
what about integrity problem then?
 
user10864482
or management?
 
It has a unique key
 
user10864482
6:31 PM
what you describe look like a view. No PK on a view is fine. On a table? not so much
 
I know I assure you its a table
its under the tables node
 
user10864482
106
A: Entity Framework: table without primary key

ColinI think this is solved by Tillito: Entity Framework and SQL Server View I'll quote his entry below: We had the same problem and this is the solution: To force entity framework to use a column as a primary key, use ISNULL. To force entity framework not to use a column as a primary key, use ...

 
it even has a tbl prefix
 
user10864482
the solution link I shared seem to be the way to go but I would say this; make sure your value are indeed unique otherwise it could be ... unpleasant
 
@cubesnyc unique keys are not primary keys
a table without a primary key is loose heap storage
 
user10864482
6:35 PM
the argument with tbl prefix is not good, really
 
> A heap is a table without a clustered index. One or more nonclustered indexes can be created on tables stored as a heap.
a heap is a table, just one that noone wants to talk to
 
user47589
Heaps deserve friendship just like everypony else.
 
user47589
If you see a heap, give it a hug. It probably needs it.
 
6:58 PM
Hmm. My phone just turned itself off and won't turn on. That can't be good.
 
user10864482
@JonathonChase android or apple?
 
Apple
It's an iPhone 6. It may have just been it's time.
 
user10864482
Press and release the volume up button.
Press and release the volume down button.
Press and hold the side button.
When the Apple logo appears, release the button.
 
I've pressed and held all of the things.
I've tried yelling at it, I've tried hitting it. Nothing is working, and I'm out of ideas.
 
user10864482
@JonathonChase if you plug it, does it show the charging sign?
 
7:01 PM
those are all violent actions, it needs a loving action
 
It only shows darkness.
 
user10864482
ye, hitting a phone is never good
 
that's why it needs love, to bring out its light
 
user10864482
different instruction for museum model
 
user10864482
tep 1 How to Force Restart an iPhone 6 Plus. Press and hold the Home button. While holding the Home button, press and hold the Sleep/Wake button.
Continue holding both buttons for about 10 seconds, until the Apple logo appears
 
7:03 PM
I tried that. I even did it with love. I think it's dead.
 
user10864482
@JonathonChase hopefully you are not like the others because you did your backup... right?
 
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I'll get my numbers. I don't really keep much on my phone at all.
 
yawnnnnnn
 
Now I just need a new one, but I don't know what to get.
 
iphone11 pro
 
7:08 PM
moto z4
 
user10864482
you know. get the latest iphone
 
but iPhones suck :(
 
user10864482
@AlRey what suck is to change
 
I kinda just miss my Lumia 640XL. I wish that line hadn't died.
 
user10864482
@JonathonChase the camera was amazing on that, that and the specs, so gorgeous
 
7:12 PM
windows mobile's tiling system was also pretty nice
 
user10864482
@JonathonChase it was . maybe windows will come back
 
The razor phone is the best phone.
 
What's annoying is my provider won't let me buy phones outright, so I gotta go to one store to pick it up and another to activate it.
 
get the Motorola F09HLD8415
 
Fuck these long running scripts
Been deploying a database script to update / reoragnise the database and it's been running for over 3 hours now
 
7:25 PM
@JonathonChase SAME x-x
really wish WP could've been that thing to break up the other two guys
 
user10864482
@CaptainObvious I feel you
 
Netflix is great
 
user10864482
@CaptainObvious the chat is greater
 
But it's quiet
 
user47589
Turn the volume up
 
7:42 PM
Alright, I found an apple store that I can probably get to without my phone telling me how to get there. This will be quite the adventure.
 
just don't end up in a corn field
 
I know where my nearest one is, but wouldn't be able to find my own way to another one
 
If I end up in a corn field I'll probably have to just live there. Everything will have gone so terribly wrong.
 
hello anyone
 
hello someone
 
7:49 PM
ha ha anyone using HtmlAgilitypack need some help :-(
and need to get some sleep
 
I've never used it but post your issue and we'll see
 
I have used it.
 
user10864482
me too and my eyes bleeded
 
im using htmlagilitypack to get data from web page it returns captcha, but with python request+bs4 it's ok,
 
user10864482
@Roshan so basically you ask to get help to cheat?
 
7:52 PM
oh
 
Yeah congrats, you've proven captcha works
 
@CaptainObvious :-(
 
Are you setting a real-ish user agent when you make your request?
Because that's a dead give away.
 
If it's a newer version of captcha then you're basically shit out of luck
 
@JonathonChase yes same useragent used with python requst
 
7:54 PM
That's clever
 
I would inspect the other headers sent across from each request and see what's different
 
@JonathonChase i did that with firefox
 
user47589
Use Fiddler for that, not Firefox. Firefox cannot inspect the request made by your program.
 
@Amy you mean "Telerik Fiddler"
 
user47589
The idea is to see how the requests are different so you can make them the same.
 
user47589
8:03 PM
I mean Fiddler, yes. It is now owned by Telerik.
 
user10864482
nice one, telerik, good ads lol
 
Any one here knows about background worker class in C#
 
user10864482
@Analyzer ye
 
user10864482
background worker work for me /s
 
8:12 PM
Can we instiatiate different threads inside background worker?
Or can we create thread array inside background worker class?
 
user10864482
@Analyzer what is your objective?
 
I am trying to create thread for each row in datagridview? What can be best way out for this?
 
why wouldn't you use tasks
or, like, think about what you're actually trying to do
 
user10864482
@Analyzer you can spawn a large number of thread but eventually those thread will need to access a resource, do they?
 
user10864482
like what is the nature of the task to complete?
 
8:17 PM
Yeah! Like application for Airport display. I want to emulate that each flight is trying to obtain run way track.
Point is how can make it possible using background worker to make my UI thread safe?
 
user10864482
@Analyzer may I suggest you event driven programming instead?
 
user10864482
especially if you only need to emulate
 
user10864482
the ui is not trade unsafe; the ui thread should only be used for ui stuff
 
user10864482
otherwise it will block
 
I want to see effect of multithreading! Otherwise, this is quite obvious using event driven programming.
 
user10864482
8:19 PM
@Analyzer with multi thread come multi problem
 
Background worker can help to implement multithreading, isn't it? @user10864482
 
user10864482
@Analyzer well yes and no. it's more like something you implement
 
user10864482
but then there is locking problem
 
There is no harm in testing. Can you help in sorting out such code?
 
user10864482
here is a small example with the ui; stackoverflow.com/a/6481328/10864482
 
8:21 PM
How to spawn large number of threads which are trying to acquire runway track?
 
user10864482
@Analyzer the problem is; before implementing different thread you need to figure out which resource will be touched by many different thread and then wrap some anti locking mechanism around those
 
user10864482
you can use something like ReaderWriterLockSlim as a locking mechanism
 
That is basic use of background worker. How to have background worker that spawns number of threads @user10864482? Like each row of Datagridview being emulated as separate thread
 
user10864482
@Analyzer when you say datagridview, you mean the actual wpf thing?
 
Actually, we can not create threads using thread class in background worker. What is alternative to it?
 
user10864482
8:26 PM
no; you put the background worker in a thread and it provide you some event and stuff to play with
 
-3
Q: Background worker for Array of Threads in Windows Foms C#

AnalyzerI am trying to write the Data into particular column of DataGridView in C# using following two functions. This function creates array of threads for numbers of rows already into DataGridView. These threads are instantiated using parametrized method to write into certain column of data grid view....

Can you read my question and then help me out comprehensively?
@user10864482
 
user10864482
I think you mixed some thing there
to start, are you aware of binding?
 
So, did you get my point in the question?
 
user10864482
@Analyzer sort of but as I asked, are you aware of binding?
 
Data binding you are talking about?
 
user10864482
8:31 PM
@Analyzer yes. Do you know Observable collection?
 
user10864482
it provide you with a bunch of stuff to deal with notification when the collection changed. Mix this with the grid and you have something. Now for the thread part; if you were to start a new thread each time an item is added to the collection, the same would be true when an item is removed for the collection; otherwise you would likely nuke yourself
 
user10864482
if you extend observable collection you can take action directly when stuff happen; there is no loop; only events
 
user10864482
now for the thread part; there is no 'array' of thread. Instead a thread is a resource limited by hardware. You can read more about such limit here; devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20050729-14/?p=34773
 
user10864482
now the real question is; what will the thread touch? because if it touch ui you NEED a background worker otherwise you will wreck your ui
 
@user10864482 dude thanks for your help. I will get back to you, if I am stuck?
 
user10864482
8:38 PM
@Analyzer of course; if not me someone else will I'm sure
 
user10864482
thread is a bridge we all cross at some point
 
THE SCRIPT FINISHED
 
user10864482
@CaptainObvious hehe
 
user10864482
at least it didn't crash hehe
 
@Analyzer Thread arrays are a very dangerous idea
It's something you need to be exceptionally careful with
 
8:50 PM
Hey anyone here working with Umbraco ?
 
I figured out a solution to connect to a table that has no primary, unique or foreign keys for anyone who needs it. First I found a table that had one that could correlate to the table without. change only the table name in your model to point to the table with then define the joining key as the primary key of the model.
Next use a sql stored proc in your controller. that shit will run like it took exlax smooth af
 
9:43 PM
does anyone have any incite on why the Public dns of my amazon ec2 instance wont work but the public IP works?
 
https?
 
no
 
no clue then
I would have a few ideas if it is not accessible at all, but if the public IP works, then all of those ideas wouldnt apply
 
9:59 PM
so confused
can it be that my computer doesnt resolve the dns?
 
could be
can you ping it?
I think it should display the IP address it is getting from the dns server then
 
getting error from ping in cmd
unable to resolve target system name
 
hmm... odd
 
10:37 PM
Classic DNS
Have you waited long enough for the entries to propogate
 
10:55 PM
it worked this morning
i reset my router then stopped working
 

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