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8:00 PM
that's the specific question
 
@rlemon when did this happen? I want to say it was working earlier
But I might be lying
 
Today
Hour ago
 
@rlemon RIP
 
Bastards.
 
fuck
 
8:00 PM
They return a notice and 403 the request.
 
i hate this world
nobody helps
 
doing my annual evaluation soon, wish me luck
 
i want to die
 
@Slashy consider no one has an answer maybe?
not like we're sitting here laughing at your misfortune and bogarting the answers
well, I'm not. can't speak for the rest of these chaps
 
8:02 PM
Do you need luck Kendall?
 
@rlemon no way no one has no answer lol.
this nerds are experts
XD
as fuck
 
@Slashy it sounds like you're only sending the very minimum of required information to update your clients. I can't think of much more high level optimization you can do.
 
You're the one who's been working on this thing for many months, and we're the ones who are supposed to give you the ideas?
 
^
chat rooms are not magical answer machines
there is like 200 users online in the chats
2 million on main
 
@TomW yeah because i got no idea how to continue devleoping this
 
8:03 PM
use main
 
:)
 
@StevenLiekens what am I looking at here?
 
Try thinking
 
Try left
(little less aggressive)
 
a script that does some sort of tracking
 
8:04 PM
Well that clears up exactly jack shit
 
@Sidney look,for example i can send a jpeg compressed area,or
 
user47589
does it track killers' IP addresses?
 
yeah I think it does
 
but i cannot se a different at all
 
@Amy you don't track them, you ping them after building a GUI using visual basic
 
8:05 PM
/*
 * name: _initAutoTracker
 * usage: to automatically tag outbound links / e-mails / downloads
 */
function _initAutoTracker()
that seems to init the auto tracker
 
user47589
oh, it tracks cars.
 
killers drive cars
 
user47589
checkmate
 
_initManualTracker is the same but for manuals
 
@StevenLiekens holy shit I think you're right, function _initAutoTracker() inits the auto tracker
 
8:06 PM
You can never find the damn things.
 
user47589
@TomW i drive a stick-shift.
 
No I mean like, books that tell you how to use things
 
they seem to attach click handlers that log all kinds of stuff to a whole bunch of tags on their website
 
user47589
@TomW ahh lol
 
@Amy what car?
 
user47589
8:08 PM
a Honda Fit.
 
decent little car
too small for me :(
 
Never driven an automatic
I'm considering one, but only if it has a manual mode
It just seems like the sort of thing that computers should be doing for us now, but I want the option to be in control if I know better
 
I drive whatever is affordable
cars are tools to get me places
 
just hoping my CX-5 will live long enough for my next car to be a self-driving all electric.
 
Prius has no manual
 
8:18 PM
@TomW - "manual mode". some cars have a little "sports" S option in the automatic transmission with a + - direction on the shifting stick and they call it "manual". If you do want an automatic transmission with a manual option, avoid those! Make sure to get one with the steering wheel paddle shifters; they are as close as you can get, although they still require sequential shifting =/
 
@TravisJ BMW has paddles and an up-down stick, so yeah. And I am quite certain they know what they're doing
 
user47589
@wadry apology accepted, and i apologize for my role in escalating things as well.
 
@TomW - The up-down stick sucks :( the paddles aren't so bad though
 
@TravisJ I'm not finessed enough in manual shifting to get any extra benefit anyway
 
@TomW - 4th to 2nd! :D
 
8:21 PM
Poor clutch
 
@TomW - When indi cars were all stick shift, doing a 90 turn required braking in 4th, and then downshifting straight to 2nd in order to make it through the turn fastest. It is still a really cool technique that works, but with sequential shifting, no one can do it anymore
 
@Amy thanks
 
@TravisJ that sounds like it would be hell on the clutch
 
@mikeTheLiar - Clutch doesn't mind. Just have to make sure that before you let the clutch out, you match the RPM's.
 
@TravisJ I'm fairly bad at that.
 
8:22 PM
In that case the clutch would not be very happy :P
 
I use to change down from 5th to 3rd on the motorway if I really wanted to get into a tight gap overtaking...
 
All cars are roughly the same though as far as gearing. 2nd gear is 20mph at 2000 rpm, 3rd is 30 at 2000, 4th is 40 at 2000, 5th is 50 and 2000, and each shift requires roughly 1000 rpm to go 1 gear.
 
user47589
my partner can somehow drive my car without using the clutch. she just shifts without the clutch. i've tried, but its impossible.
 
@JonClements - For sure, especially when in medium traffic, right? Have to get that good mileage out of your overdrive :D
 
Once in a while I do try to drop a gear to get into the power band (ha, the power band on a 1.1 engine) and have never got it right
 
8:24 PM
@Amy that sounds awful
 
@Amy - Yeah you can do that if you let the rpm's drop while shifting.
 
user47589
@mikeTheLiar it drives surprisingly smooth.
 
user47589
you almost can't tell she isn't using the clutch.
 
it is all in the RPM if she can do you, you can just watch her
 
@mikeTheLiar my driving instructor described how he had to learn to do that on an old bus
 
8:25 PM
Get your car in 2nd gear at like 3200 rpm's. Let your foot off the gas so the car is engine braking. Slam the clutch into 3rd as fast as possible. #yourin3rd
 
1-2 didn't have a synchromesh, it'd just grind together until they met
 
But you can't downshift like that
If you are in 3rd, you have to use the clutch to get back to 2
 
Had a little fun when I was use to driving a 6-speed manual and then going back to a 5-speed for a bit - luckily I didn't succeed in putting it into reverse instead of 6th, but I did try it without thinking a couple of times
 
? should have a lock on reverse so you can't hammer it in when doing 15+
 
@JonClements it'll tell you, in good order :P
 
8:28 PM
wait, are we still doing selfies?
51 mins ago, by Failsafe
@Codeman thats disgusting
 
#punching
 
@JonClements - I just got a car that is a 6 spd, used to a 5. I am terrified of accidentally doing reverse instead of 5th gear when downshifting from 6.
@juanvan - I am not sure they do that.
 
You'll shave maybe a mil off the teeth at most, and you'll definitely know if that's happened :P
 
more selfies?
this is me trying to look smart
 
@juanvan had that happen before. 3rd -> 4th and missed. Grinding unhappy noises ensued
 
8:31 PM
NOBODY'S GETTIN' MY IDEAS
 
you've got it wrong
they farm ideas from your butt
why do you think that is where they probe
 
Should I be worried if my car absolutely will not engage reverse without several presses and releases of the clutch pedal...
 
good thing I'm wearing my magic underwear, too
 
@rlemon they can't do that, that's where the panini are
 
Sometimes.
 
8:32 PM
@TomW my gearbox refuses to go into reverse sometimes unless I start in first.
 
user47589
that's why we insert panini
 
user47589
it protects us from probes
 
paninobes
 
@Codeman your car is almost certainly in better condition than mine
 
@mikeTheLiar guess it depends on the car type and if the car has a synchronized reverse gear if not the shifter should never get the gear to move
 
8:33 PM
@TomW - Usually if you run through the gears then it will align and you can place it in first.
 
i tried it with a mazda 3 and a 3rd gen prelude they both had lockouts
 
@TomW - So just place it in second (with the clutch all the way in), and then third, and then try first again, or reverse, and it should go in fine
 
@TravisJ all it needs usually is pump the clutch a couple times
Not sure why that would help anything, but that's what works
 
@TomW - Does it feel like there is a wall preventing you from placing the car in gear?
 
@TravisJ yeah the stick physically won't move into position
 
8:42 PM
what is this vs 15 thing? Not see that much difference from 2015.
 
? vs 15 new version?
 
I did not download it yet, just wondering if it adds significant value over 2015.
could not find deep comparison between them
 
link?
 
@Teomanshipahi that page is literally a list of things they've added. I don't know what you want from us.
 
8:48 PM
Those list mostly includes features of 2015.
I want answer from you, why Microsoft just released brand new IDE instead of adding features to 2015. GIVE ME THE ANSWER! :)
 
Today I learned I can write chrome extensions that inject CSS into pages... Today I have gotten almost nothing productive done.
 
@Sidney if only it could inject css into pages for other people
trololololo...
 
user47589
VS 15 will likely become VS 2016
 
@TomW Back when Chrome supported user style sheets I seriously considered changing all of the graphic designer's fonts to Comic Sans
 
@TomW As much value as I could get from that, I find fixing rally's stupid CSS issues of much greater value.
 
8:53 PM
@mikeTheLiar nah, Papyrus
 
@TomW - Yeah, that is a common thing. The gears are simply not in alignment sometimes. It should only be happening when you are not moving though. That is why moving the stick to another gear (like 2nd) and then back into 1st or R should realign the gearbox. If it is happening while you are already moving then there is a separate issue.
 
@TravisJ I would argue that trying to engage reverse while moving is in general irresponsible :P
 
@TomW there are a surprising number of businesses around here that consider Papyrus an acceptable font for logos/banners
 
@mikeTheLiar Where do you live so I can never go there? shudder
 
Boston and you'd be surprised
 
8:55 PM
@mikeTheLiar I don't personally hate it as much as comic sans but I know designers hate it much more
 
user47589
there's some font that's worse than comic sans
 
user47589
papyrus or something.
 
user47589
thats it
 
user47589
8:56 PM
truly horrifying
 
@Sidney that's amazing
 
I have a friend who's an actual typographer. She specifically does type design for publications. Can do graphics, isn't really interested, primarily just does text
I send her pics of grocers' apostrophes when I find them
 
Fun fact - across the street from The Kendall is the Google Cambridge office
 
> fun
 
It sounded more interesting in my head
 
9:01 PM
oh, Cambridge; Murica
GAAAH THAT SIGN
doubleplusunwant
 
user47589
you guys might enjoy this: whotv.com/2015/11/25/…
 
lol some rando on reddit was asking about stock options.
 
****Also, this is not real*
 
he said his boss was offering him 5000 shares that his boss claimed were worth $1000 each. But his boss said he was advised by council not to reveal the total number of shares issued. so ridiculous lol
 
Cool, I dun gon did an open source
Might be my first accepted PR
 
9:07 PM
In Entity Framework, I have fetched data into an ObservableCollection<MyViewModel>. I've modified the data in the OC. Would I fetch a Local version of that same data from EF and update that for each record?
 
user47589
@Alex what is "OC"? Original...?
 
user47589
Oh, ObservableCollection
 
user47589
nvm
 
Sorry, ObservableCollection
 
user47589
well if you have the same instance of the dbcontext used to retrieve the records, and assuming you have change tracking enabled, you can just call SaveChanges()
 
user47589
9:11 PM
EF will scan and detect entity additions/modifications/deletions and update the database as appropriate.
 
user47589
if you aren't using the same instance of the dbcontext, you'll have to do a bit more than that
 
No, I do a using(var context = new MyEntities()){..} and fetch, then later do another using for updating the data
 
user47589
ok, then you'll have to detach the entities from the original context, attach them to the new one, then save. i think. i'm a little fuzzy on this.
 
It talks about working with Local
But it doesn't have anything about Update
 
user47589
Local will be different with each instance of the dbcontext.
 
9:13 PM
It's all about add/delete
Ahhh
That explains it
 
Hola :-)
 
user47589
it may be enough to simply attach the entity to the new context, then save.
 
user47589
i dont have much experience in cross-context entity operations.
 
I could do a Select to get those same records, loop over them, and do a SingleOrDefault to find the OC object that matches, then update the values on the entity. At end, do a SaveChanges
Painful, but doable
 
user47589
that would work, but yeah the extra db hit is undesirable.
 
user47589
9:16 PM
might be unavoidable, though.
 
Yep, I'm thinking the same
 
user47589
without fetching the persisted copy of the entity, EF doesn't know what changed in order to issue an update.
 
I'd need to fetch from EF those entities that are in the OC, using their IDs
 
user47589
yeah, fetch, copy changed fields over, save.
 
Is there a LINQ that selects using multiple values?
 
user47589
9:18 PM
there's SelectMany, if that's what you mean.
 
Oh, I've never used that
Need to research it
 
user47589
its used to flatten a list.
 
Well, is that what I need here?
 
user47589
what do you mean, select using multiple values?
 
I want to fetch the entities whose IDs match those in the OC
 
user47589
9:19 PM
oic
 
Sorry
Didn't explain it well :)
I'm burned out for today. Will start on this fresh tomorrow
 
user47589
does this help: it shows multiple ways of doing it and compares their performance: stackoverflow.com/a/8108643/47589
 
@Alex - You need to chain your where clauses
 
@Amy Yes, that helps. Thanks
@TravisJ Not sure what you mean in this situation
 
@Alex - You said "using multiple values". I took that to mean you had several metrics to screen with and had to check them from separate places.
@Amy - I miss Slauma :(
 
user47589
9:23 PM
Slauma?
 
He is the author your linked to
 
@TravisJ Sorry, meant multiple IDs
 
@Alex - Ah, okay
 
user47589
ah
 
user47589
did he leave SO?
 
9:24 PM
@Amy - Yes. Not sure why or if something else happened to him. Never actually knew the guy, just his contributions. He also worked with me when I had to get Oracle to patch a bug once. Really cool person.
 
user47589
thats cool
 
@Alex - Yeah, use contains. Make sure that you check the number of id's prior to using contains, so that you don't send too many. I have found that it is generally okay to use less than 25,000 at once.
@Alex - Do you need to use more than 25,000?
@Alex - Actually it was 10,000.
urgh =/ I am interviewing someone who got a credential from Earle C. Clements. So I checked out their google reviews and found this gem left by someone
> This is the best place i ever been to I have gotten my Hight School Diploma, my Skill Computer Service Technician, all the teachers, stuff members, all the workers they were great people i had a great experience at the Center not only the education and certification but also how to communicate, comprehend with others.
> I did got me a job i continued my education am in college i gotta a car and am leaving a phenomenal lifestyle, this is just the beginning there is a lot to come. I love Job Corps if it's wasn't for it i wouldn't be having this kind of lifestyle.
 
Well, they were nice about it, they have a positive attitude to education and are happy. So there's that.
> Computer Service Technician
Oh.
 
9:46 PM
lol the reviews are just ridiculous
this one is kinda NSFW pastebin.com/gD2PLuZg it is just text
 
@TravisJ At most, 5 or 6 records
 
@Alex - In that case don't worry about it, it will load very quickly. Just use contains.
DbSet<TABLE>().Where(t => IDS.Contains(t.PRIMARYKEY)).ToList();
 
sup sup
 
10:16 PM
@TravisJ what's wrong with using find?
I believe you can give it an array of ids to to find and it will give you back all the rows that have them
@TravisJ lmao
 
user47589
the overload for DBSet<T>.Find(...) that takes an array searches for an entity with a composite key matching the provided values.
 
ily
what the hell drama happened that i missed
 
user47589
10:31 PM
the best kind of drama
 
who made wadry a room owner? :/
bloop
i shouldn't reignite fires
im done
 
@SteveG I did.
Who made you a room owner? :P
 
kendall
having said that
i might be a dick, but im trustworthy
 
user47589
who is the Prime room owner, the owner who begat all other room owners?
 
kendall
 
user47589
10:37 PM
really? we're doomed.
 
No
Steve don't know shit
:D
 
basically, it was kendall
there were others before him, but it was a dead room
the only reason this room is active is because he came in here and sat alone and helped people
 
There used to be a way to see who created a room
I'm pretty sure Steve made this one
 
user47589
so he discovered this land and christened it the C# room?
 
until a community grew
true story
 
10:39 PM
Amy how old are you
If I may ask
 
user47589
mid-30s.
 
Woo I'm not a failure yet
WAit that came out wrong
 
lol what
 
user47589
Sippy...
 
10:40 PM
roflmao that sounded so different to what I intended
 
user47589
Don't make me open a can of friendship on your crab ass.
 
Hahahahaha
I just looked at your profile and saw senior
And I was like
I'm not a senior yet
For some reason in my head you were always mid 20s
 
user47589
i'm actually in my 60s.
 
Which is what I am.
In fact I'm barely mid 20s.
I should be a senior already though wtf world
 
i just dinged 30 a few months ago, although, nobody would guess it
 
10:41 PM
I don't even wanna be a senior. I wanna be the fucking CEO.
 
^
 
I want an aston martin.
 
I want a tesla that drives itself so I don't have to
 
Just been drinking with a guy who has 7 cars
3 of them are aston martins :/
One of them is an Audi RS
 
user47589
isn't aston martin the line of James Bond cars?
 
10:43 PM
I want a car lol
 
@Amy yus
 
did you know, you ran rent a lambo for an extended weekend for 3,000$
 
What a waste of money.
 
i haven't done it, but it'd fe fun
money comes and goes, but memories and experiences last until you die
be
 
yeah
Guess so
I want to spend my money finding a good way to make lots more money
 
user47589
10:48 PM
a month ago in Nashville, a kid rented a lamborghini and promptly crashed it on camera going a hundred mph
 
Is he alive..?
 
lmao
 
user47589
yes. he killed someone else though
 
oh, thats not very funny
 
What a ballbag.
 
Jail time?
 
a lot of it probably
 
user47589
yeah. its not his first offense.
 
and regardless, he has to live with that shit for the rest of his life
what else depressing can we talk about
 
user47589
!!youtube sad kittens
 
10:52 PM
@Amy Something went on fire; status 403
 
user47589
damn
 
How I'm struggling with database design?
Or is that not depressing enough
 
I wonder what it costs to rend a lambo... And what the insurance deposit is.
 
just put it all in the same table, make everything char(max), and you can ignore keys
 
user47589
and create an index for every combination of columns.
 
10:53 PM
yeah
 
thanks guys
my problems are solved
now I don't have a job.
 
user47589
hooray!
 
lol
that literally made me lol
 
user47589
lmml
 
i like that
 
user47589
10:56 PM
lmmlol?
 
user47589
nah
 
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user47589
is that an owl?
 
I was thinking cat, but sure, why not.
the lmml just needed some extra help.
 
user47589
a cat that thinks its an owl, then
 
10:57 PM
i really want to make a bush joke, i must be more mature
 
@SteveG DO IT DO IT DO IT
 
no
 
=(
 
bush as in, the woods
do you believe that?
 
user47589
sudu do --it
 
10:58 PM
i wouldn't
 
user47589
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