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7:00 PM
!!dynamic
 
that's what @Nathvi is after - C# doesn't support it
 
@Sidney Using dynamic in C# is like grabbing a tiger by the coffee cup.
 
@ReedCopsey no it'll check at runtime
 
dynamic leads to runtime errors, runtime errors lead to broken code, broken code leads....to The Dark Side
!!tell wadry dynamic
 
@wadry Using dynamic in C# is like grabbing a tiger by the coffee cup.
 
7:00 PM
yeah - that's the point - move the checking to the compiler
 
user47589
@wadry that's what he said.
 
@Amy I can honestly say its something i've not used in years (don't really know why you would tbh)
 
user47589
what haven't you used in years?
 
dynamic is like the opposite of var
 
@Amy dynamic in C#
 
user47589
7:02 PM
um
 
to all stupid put all "Dynamic" in your code base
 
user47589
4 mins ago, by wadry
I do this all the time with my OData layer stuff
 
there's nothing wrong with dynamic, as long as you know what it actually does
 
I played with it once when MS announced it but then was like ... oh that's cool ... not sure why I would need this though
 
uie: dynamic is object once compiled - all checks are runtime bound, etc
 
7:02 PM
basically takes the strong typing we have and turns C# in to JS ... what a dumb idea
@Amy PARSE JSON ... jeez you're good at twisting words to make stupid points i'm not even making
 
PRAISE JSON
 
user47589
no no no no no no
 
\[T]/
 
Dynamic is great for COM and multi-dispatch situations - crap for almost everything else
 
user47589
@wadry chill out
 
7:03 PM
@Amy stop trying to twist my words
 
@ReedCopsey Just like there's nothing wrong with nuclear power plants. Sure, the technicians and builders know how to use them, but if those tech's and builders leave and some teenager has to come in and support it.....
 
its really annoying
 
user47589
@wadry you know, sometimes i misunderstand you. it happens. you need to chill
 
you always claim i say stuff im not saying
 
wadry's itchin for a kickin
 
7:04 PM
Amy has removed wadry from the list of this room's owners.
 
wadry behave
:D
 
wadry pls
 
y'all behave!
2
 
jeez
 
@Sidney A simple, isolated use of dynamic for mutli dispatch is far easier to maintain than using the visitor pattern crap, for example
 
7:05 PM
mikes been pushing for people to kick me all day
 
@Sidney isn't nuclear power super safe these days?
@wadry I was joking earlier.
 
user47589
@wadry instead of jumping down my throat like that, maybe point out that how I interpreted your statement wasn't what it actually meant. it should have been super fucking clear that I misunderstood you.
 
@mikeTheLiar yes
 
@Sidney thorium based reactors are perfectly safe
its the other type that aint
 
I want to say I've read that more people get cancer from coal plants than nuclear
 
7:06 PM
@Amy It was super fucking clear, not my fault if you're having a moment
 
omg.
 
@mikeTheLiar Yes, it really is, and can probably run on it's own for years. It's only until it enters a safety shutdow and some pimply faced teenager who thinks he knows whatcomes in to fix it that things get hairy. My analogy stands. =P
 
Saw that one coming a mile away
 
you two fucking stop it lol
 
user47589
i will when he stops being an ass.
 
user47589
7:07 PM
Admit it, you're enjoying it.
 
You're pissing him off
And I reckon you do it on purpose.
 
Stop trolling him.
 
user47589
I'm not trolling him.
 
7:08 PM
I don't care who trolls. Someone talks to another like that, they're booted
3
let's bring it back on topic and have some C# fun. like bashing java.
 
user47589
No, I don't try to piss him off on purpose.
 
!!tell RyanTernier java
 
@RyanTernier That didn't make much sense. Did you mean C#?
 
@ReedCopsey, I guess I could write a code generator for a config file to get the type safety.
 
Second rule from csharpchat.com: Be nice, show class
"show class" is that a programming joke?
 
7:10 PM
haha
 
@mikeTheLiar :( but we don't have classes where I come from :(
 
user47589
My room owner status was taken because I booted him after he told me to fuck off? Can it be restored, please?
 
Be nice, show class
3
 
@mikeTheLiar public class JavaSucks {} showing class :)
 
7:11 PM
@Nathvi not sure why that'd be easier than using the 15 LOC library I showed you :p
 
user47589
thank you.
 
@rlemon JS is pretty classless
 
probably wouldn't be, just trying to think of other ways
@ReedCopsey
 
@mikeTheLiar we have fake classes that almost feel like classes
they work for what they are meant to do
 
We have a dedicated sarcasm font? Sweet.
 
7:12 PM
but we all secretly know
 
@Nathvi Yeah - you could write a utility to turn the json into C# code, and run it as a pre-build step, or something
just more work
 
@Sidney I have a userstyle that actually makes it appear sarcastic
i.e. reverse italic
 
user47589
reverse italic?
 
@Amy abuse those admin rights as much as you like ... you're still wrong
 
@ReedCopsey, I prbly wouldn't do it
 
user47589
Can someone else handle wadry please?
 
@KendallFrey Hey, that's not nice, some people are born that way
 
user47589
I really have no desire to waste my time with him.
 
well, maybe not
 
7:14 PM
@KendallFrey for a second there I thought I was going to get Rebecca
 
it's fucking tuesday
 
This is going to be a long week
 
It's Fucking Tuesday? No one told me that, I left my gimp suit at home
 
When DNS drops the Package - it's Tuesday
 
7:22 PM
I wonder if i can get away with WCF REST
because technically our architecture requires WCF
 
user47589
you can
 
@Failsafe the company i used to work for did exactly that
its not perfect but it works
 
@Failsafe allegedly supports it. Be prepared for quirky json formatting, compared to webAPI
+ I have no idea how you make it do content negotiation
 
you can build a custom binding for it
or use it with a c# client and just use standard soap messaging
that's how we did it
 
@wadry if i use standard soap messaging why would I do REST
i would just do a standard WCF
 
7:26 PM
with the web API stuff I just serve up the html and JS from mvc now, and the data from the API
not sure sure you can do that with WCF
so you'll have to relay all browser requests via MVC
 
webHttpBinding serves that need
 
i'm guessing you won't need it queryable (e.g. OData)
 
With inevitable quirks.
 
oh ok
never used that one
 
Ooh baby, webHttpBinding has got what I need
 
user47589
7:27 PM
lol @mikeTheLiar
 
And yeah OData, forget it, unless you're using data services or whatever they're called
 
:D
@TomW pls
 
Random topic but I've been thinking why can't I do an Edit and Continue for Xamarin apps? msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms164926.aspx I did notice that disclaimer about mixed native code but what about makes it hard to edit and continue?
 
Parsing OData expressions out of the query string would be fun though.
I think Steve was trying to do that DIY once
 
@TomW yeh that's where I would have gone if it was needed
 
7:28 PM
In the end we convinced him to use OData
 
@TomW its not that bad ... look at the source of the MS OData implementation on github
 
I don't understand how Edit and Continue works if I can't even have fucking lambda expressions in the immediate window.
 
@Amy That's not why I removed it.
And you know it isn't.
 
@Sippy i didn't get my status back :(
 
Are you gonna behave?
You can't just swear people out
 
7:30 PM
Yeh im over it now ... gonna go game and chill
rant at some dicks on some MMO or something
 
@Sippy the fuck you on about?
 
@mikeTheLiar fukin rek u m8
 
@mikeTheLiar mikeTheMemoryOfAGoldfish
:P
 
lol
 
@Sippy come at me bro
 
7:31 PM
my kickin him was a bit of a joke tbh ... didn't think it would go that far
 
ew- PG-13 dude
 
sorry @mikeTheLiar
 
@wadry I'm not salty
 
@wadry kick jokes is old jokes
 
and you know what ... sorry @Amy ... i'm not going to hold a grudge
 
7:32 PM
I was fucking salty when I got flagged for swearing at Cap
 
who made the kendall wat image?
I assume it was from this room
 
I think it was maybe Ryan
 
Mar 15 at 22:48, by Ryan Ternier
user image
 
That sounds right
 
@RyanTernier
 
7:33 PM
omfg kill it with fire
 
haha
 
oh my god that is so much better
rlemon r u a wizard
 
no, I'm just Harry
 
bobby ur a wizard
 
damn @rlemon is that actually you in your avatar? Beard game strong, respect
 
7:34 PM
the beard is fake
 
yes it is me, beard game is GIMP
 
Mar 24 at 9:42, by Tom W
Fucking beards
 
rlemon is Native American, he can't grow a beard
 
@TomW no just regular beards
 
I needed a test region, I used Testeros
 
7:36 PM
@KendallFrey you're Canadian, you can't grow a military
 
why are we kicking people?
 
actual beard game is quite weak
 
Shit rlemon is also Canadian that made no sense
 
@TomW common misconception. Mounties are fucking badass.
 
user47589
is that you, @rlemon? you're handsome.
 
7:36 PM
we actually just ship crates of geese to countries we don't like
 
@rlemon Wtf is that
 
@rlemon my condolences.
 
When the wind blows does that fall off
 
@Sippy bobby lemon himself
 
BANTA M8
 
7:37 PM
How you gonna keep your face warm when the bears come
 
get on my level, nubs
 
@KendallFrey you're Canadian, you can't grow a military pair of testicles
 
@Codeman thats disgusting
 
@Sippy stick it in the bear
 
Which as all the muricans will tell you, is the same thing
 
7:37 PM
@Failsafe you jelly brah
 
@Codeman jesus christ dude
 
@Amy awww shucks
 
@KendallFrey you got a real purty mouth, boy...
 
Is it selfie time?
 
not a fan of facial hair, but when I don't have it I look 12...
 
7:38 PM
Is it possible to get the Required field message in Razor via: ViewData.ModelMetadata... ?
 
@Codeman just wait till you see the other end of the pipe
 
@KendallFrey so you want to present to him?
dude, maybe take that to a private chat
 
!!kinkykendall
 
in JavaScript, Oct 16 '15 at 15:11, by Kendall Frey
I can do goatse
 
touche
 
7:40 PM
y;know what, let's go
 
ordinal numbers are fascinating
 
don't worry, I just did that in the middle of shaving
 
Not beard, but Movember attempt.
 
hahah
 
That's about 25 days
Yeah, really.
 
7:40 PM
omg
 
are you 27.3
?
I like guessing ages
 
@TomW lay off the spice dude
 
user47589
@TomW those eyes!
 
mine would probably be similar
mustache game is weak
 
@rlemon I was 30 yesterday
 
7:41 PM
@TomW happy birthday!
 
what are you today?
 
'86 represent
 
I blame the light. They're actually sort of greyish in daylight
 
mine used to be all badass and change from blue to green depending on what I wore
now they are just perma green
:(
 
I need an updated picture. I'm considering dropping the video game persona for something slightly more professional
 
7:43 PM
ha
this is my linkedin profile pic
"Macho Man"
 
I don't have a linkedin picture
 
I shouldn't have a profile. I login once every 2 years
 
@rlemon wait, that picture is a couple of years old, so you're pretty damn close.
checks exif data
 
when I used to work retail I would always guess kids ages to the month
I got pretty good at aging kids < 2
 
I got an email asking me to interview to be a senior Ruby engineer today... I don't know the first thing about Ruby
 
7:45 PM
@Codeman I respond and call them out
 
well
it's tough
cause I always say "everything is just tools that we use and I can learn tools"
 
but I'm not gonna be able to jump in and deliver immediately
 
user47589
thats a good pic
 
I think this is the only reasonably recent picture I have
 
7:46 PM
@mikeTheLiar dammit her necklace isn't centered
that is bugging me
 
ooo wait I have a better pic
 
@Amy I'm the one on the right
 
I take pictures of what's around me, not of me.
 
Also my beard's bigger now
 
@KendallFrey that's okay. The pictures I take of you make up for it
 
7:48 PM
good
 
relevant: reddit.com/r/picturesofiansleeping sub reddit of a dude who has been taking pictures of his roommate sleeping for years.
 
user47589
lol
 
kinda creepy, but also funny
 
@rlemon 26.6
pretty close.
 
damn
still pretty far off (imo)
 
7:49 PM
1 message moved to Trash can
 
@rlemon I'd ask you to guess my age but I'm afraid of what you'll say
 
@rlemon it's half the error of getting a 2 year old's age wrong by a month
@mikeTheLiar 38
 
@mikeTheLiar 34.1 31.8 in that picture?
 
kill me
 
don't blame us you got the bald gene
 
7:50 PM
sry :(
 
lol
 
we be guessin on that
 
alternatively if your family background is Irish, 17
 
lol
 
how old does my profile pic look?
 
7:51 PM
15
 
lol
It was about 17
 
@TomW @rlemon 28 is the correct answer
 
not bad
you look young
then again, so do I. I'll be 30 in September
 
guys
 
7:52 PM
yeah i probably do
 
I don't think I look 30
 
i need a suggestion
 
@KendallFrey how old are you now if you don't mind me asking?
 
@TomW YOu look like Ethan Hawke
 
 
7:52 PM
21
 
few weeks ago
@Failsafe who?
 
@TomW hide yo wife, hide you kids, TomW is angry
 
fuck
 
@Failsafe lol
 
@KendallFrey that looks angry to you?
 
7:53 PM
google is broken
 
lol yeah
 
guys
 
the api is done
(for now)
 
please
somthing short
 
you need to ask the question to get the suggestions
 
7:53 PM
your penis
 
@Slashy what's your question?
 
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
 
kendall nice one
i liked it
 
#rekt
 
you're the only one
 
7:53 PM
Best joke of 1992
top kek
 
alright
 
@Slashy too bad no one else did :D
 
joke stealer
 
[ ] not rekt
[X] rekt
 
@KendallFrey Ok the hole is just getting deeper
 
7:54 PM
@rlemon :P
@Failsafe or at least that's what it felt like
 
@Failsafe just like Kendall's mom
 
hahahaha so it isn't just the JS room. everyone burns Kendalls mom
 
i decided to work again on a small screen sharing project with udp server,now i use the desktop duplication api msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/…
 
@rlemon s/burn/bang
 
so actually i get all the dirty regions from that(areas that have changed)
 
7:55 PM
@rlemon used to be in the room tags iirc
 
they took it out because .net is already heavy enough?
 
user47589
boom
 
now i can send the new dirty region pixlels with the correct position,but im looking for more creative idea
 
they're called features, dammit
 
which will not use too much latency
 
7:56 PM
 
@KendallFrey STIs aren't "features"
 
@Slashy i sent your mom pixels of my dirty region
 
@KendallFrey fuck you dude,wtf is wrong with you?
i thought people are nice here
 
:D
Do you have a specific question?
 
@KendallFrey Good Job
 
7:57 PM
yes^^
look above
 
I did
 
@Slashy we can get rowdy but we mean well
 
@KendallFrey and what did you figure out?
 
That there's no specific question
 
i just need a direction
 
7:58 PM
If you want creative ideas, try LSD, not a programmers' chat room
 
Left
 
You need one of those ^ for a question
 
got this html from a gov page
 
somthing to start from
 
7:59 PM
The service is unavailable.<html><body><h1>Server is too busy</h1></body></html>
 
oh dear
 
@KendallFrey There is a specific question
 
what's lsd ?@KendallFrey
 
google it
 
!!google lsd
 
7:59 PM
Google is broken
 
Damn broken google
 
They shut down the api
 
!!wiki lsd
 
Lysergic acid diethylamide (LSD), also known as acid, is a psychedelic drug known for its psychological effects. This may include altered awareness of the surroundings, perceptions, and feelings as well as sensations and images that seem real though they are not. It is used mainly as a recreational drug and for spiritual reasons. LSD is typically either swallowed or held under the tongue. It is often sold on blotter paper, a sugar cube, or gelatin. LSD injected intravenously takes effect in approximately 30 minutes. LSD is not addictive. However, adverse psychiatric reactions such as anxiet...
 
"Are there any alternatives to checking dirty regions using the Desktop Duplication API that wont take up too much latency?"
 

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