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12:40 AM
someone spam flagged 20 comments?!
 
that's annoying
I have to think what I wanna do for my 20% time this sprint
 
user47589
naptime!
 
1:59 AM
good morning
 
Do wifi users need to be disconnected from a wifi network in order for a wifi users to fully use the wifi with out it being slowed down or does it not ,after how many machines are connected? ????
 
doesn't matter, unless windows wants to download stuff in the background
or steam
or some other app, that downloads in the background
 
user47589
lots and lots of users accessing wifi can interfere with each other
 
user47589
it can be a problem in convention centers. but it takes a lot of users for the interference to be noticible
 
user47589
in a convention center, you can work around this problem by imprisoning everyone else inside a faraday cage.
 
5:55 AM
God morgen!
 
6:13 AM
'morning.
 
morning
Regarding Wifi.... My ISP had to disable router function on my router in order to prevent hickups... For some reason, whenever I had 5 connected devices "1 cable and 4 wifi", I received hickups every day.
pretty stupid
I just noticed a new function in windows I havn't seen before "Character map"... Too bad it doesn't show ascii for each
 
@JakobMillah Sounds like crappy equipment / configuration.
 
sure does. Would have been nice if it showed ascii though :D Wouldn't have to google
 
@JakobMillah New? I'm pretty sure it's been there since Windows 3.0
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan New for me :<
 
Bookmarked! :P
 
Morning yo
... Installing ASP.NET Core 1 RC2
 
RIP
Bluescreen
 
Current mental state: turning on the coffee maker before putting a cup in it.
 
6:45 AM
Shieet
That's even worse than me
 
Managed to salvage about 50% of the coffee, so I'm good.
 
Think about the children in Africa
They could have received the other 50%
Kappa
 
Also, my solution got screwy and I can't set multiple startup projects anymore - every time I hit F5 it resets back to a single, specific startup project. Much pain.
@JakobMillah Think of the not-quite-awake-yet children!
 
That sounds like a nice Visual Studio issue
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan just put your face under it instead; saves time
 
6:49 AM
@TomW I'll give it a go!
 
That's after work :)
 
Ok, fixed the solution. Turns out just erasing the .suo files wasn't enough, I had to also erase Resharper's DotSettings file.
 
7:04 AM
Morning all
 
@Ggalla1779 'mornin'
 
7:27 AM
morning morning
resharper is a blessing and a curse
 
morning morning morning
I've been ReSharper-free for 5 weeks now and I haven't really missed it.
Is anyone here a subscriber / early-adopter of Project Rider?
 
@Squiggle I used it on 1 project next I didnt... Its not essential
 
I am an early adopter of vs15
its alright
no visible changes except new version of npm/node but those still wont let me play with ionic2/angular2
 
7:50 AM
 
8:03 AM
XD
@misha130 vs15? Isn't everyone using that now?
 
visual studio 2015?
or 15
 
wait, what's vs15?
Rider?
 
no
visual studio 15
2015 = visual studio 14
 
THAT'S JUST CONFUSING
 
IT IS, ISNT IT
 
8:05 AM
D:
 
I have to upgrade my VS
Also hello guys
 
Who thought it was a good idae
 
hello
 
You're up early, Steve
 
yeah
i took a short nap after work that turned into like 5 hours
now i can't sleep
 
8:11 AM
This is what my sprint looks like.
 
good (ugt) morning
all the red line burns are Yours?
 
who made the sprint?
 
Question : I have to make a class Card, it needs to have a suit and a number. How do I do that in a constructor?
 
@ntohl The grey line is the expected task completion. The red line represents the fact that all plans went out the window three days into the sprint.
 
Or you just make no constructor
 
8:13 AM
bad estimation
 
@misha130 Irrelevant estimation. Priorities shifted every two days.
 
smack anyone who tries to shift priorities and tell them to wait a week
or two
RULE WITH AN IRON FIST
 
@Maarten School work? :)
 
@MaartenWachters You should probably have a Suit enum and a value - which might also be an Enum, seeing as J/Q/K/A aren't really numbers.
@misha130 *shrug*. It's their company, still young and fishing for clients. It's their priorities to shift.
 
J/Q/K/A = 1 , 11 , 12 , 13
 
8:16 AM
Even if it is frustrating.
 
Suits of cards are acceptable uses of enumerations imho
 
I've never even heard of a enumeration lol
 
I bring this up because I have a broad brush for what is not an acceptable use of an enum. Enums make me cranky.
 
Enum is basically a list with mixed datatypes?
Correct me if I'm wrong
 
8:18 AM
@TomW Rant away, then. Which enums annoy you?
 
No, enum is basically an enum
 
@MaartenWachters Enums are like defining a named, constrained set of numbers.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan finite lists of choices that have no particular order or precedence
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan do you have a metric of "how much work you've actually done" to compare it with?
 
Hmm I don't need an enum, only a list should be possible from what I can tell
 
8:19 AM
So instead of having an int to specify a day of week, you represent them as a DayOfWeek enum which gives you named constant values (DayOfWeek.Sunday, etc) and help you avoid invalid values (passing "9" to a function expecting a DayOfWeek, for instance)
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Yeah. I got it, just I asked if You did all the work, and nobody commited to the tasks
 
@MaartenWachters what if someone adds 14 to the list?
 
@Squiggle Oh, I've done a lot of work. None of it originally planned for the sprint.
 
I'll tear them a new one @TomW
 
@ntohl No, I was diverted and redirected.
 
8:20 AM
morning
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan my advice? switch to Kanban rather than sprints.
 
yey I bought myself a chocolate croissant. it's gonna be a good day :)
 
@Squiggle We've tried that as well, but when no-one is willing to commit to planning, at all, it doesn't really matter which methodology we're ignoring.
3
 
^
so true
 
pretty much
 
8:24 AM
My brain is blown
 
Not even news for FoxNews
:D
 
Wow thx
 
hahahaha
#Burn
 
@MaartenWachters Mine is as well, so I feel you.. Webforms do that to you
 
So if I were to make an enum can I do both my card # and my card suit?
 
8:27 AM
The Liverpool fans have invaded today. Not sure whether I should leave the office to find lunch, or stay here until it all blows over.
 
My goal is to mae it so a list can pull a random card + suit
 
@Squiggle where are the leicester fans?
 
@Mr.Toxy probably in Leicester? It's the Europa League final here today.
 
o/
 
o/ pipsqueak
 
8:28 AM
I had issues with my revolut card yesterday, very sad
I love that card but the glitches it has are so annoying
 
@Squiggle fancy, didnt knew, benfica just played the champions, I didnt even noticed europa league
 
@Squiggle fu
old man
 
@Sippy =^_^=
 
@Squiggle go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for all of this to blow over
 
Good morning ...
 
8:33 AM
@MaartenWachters a Card class would hold two enum values, one of Suit and one of Face.
 
@TomW they've got a toastie maker in the back
 
why do we need mock objects and stubs for EVERY goddamn method? (rhetorical but if someone has a good answer, why not)
 
british league this year just sucked balls. But leicester big #PlotTwist
 
I've oficially made the biggest aidsfest I've made to date in VS
 
do you commit after executing all commands or you commit command by command?
 
8:44 AM
@SebastianL You add up untestability with each layer of not mocked method. You will come back to the point, that "if I had braked the dependencies there, now I could test my new class. Now that I did not, I can't write test, just with big effort"
I mean when the software gradually increases in size, You might extend the class, where the untested methods are
and class becomes a dependency
btw with Moq<> You don't need Mock class for everything
 
@ntohl that might be a nice trick ^^ thanks
 
Is there any library in .NET with wich you can reduce the file size of an image? If for example I don't want in the database images whose size is greater than 1Mb, and the user upload an image with a size of 2Mb this library should automatically treat the image (combining resizing, compression, and so on...) so that it's size becomes lower or equal to 1Mb
 
@SebastianL You still need interfaces, so just some of the classes are spared
 
@ntohl even so its still useful :)
 
yep
 
8:54 AM
@ErroreFatale This is not exactly possible. You can resize an image, sure, but you won't know exactly what the size is going to be. It's very hard to predict.
 
Hey. How do i add my database stuff on my datagrid? It's datagridName. dot what? and useful link where I can also choose what to display? Coz there's so many useless links or ones with examples I'm unable to follow because they do it differently. I'm using the entity framework
 
@ErroreFatale I know ImageMagick is very popular utility, and there's a C# wrapper around it. magick.codeplex.com/documentation
 
x.Result = string.Format("Welcome"); Useful line of the day.
 
@scheien IT'S FUTUREPROOF!
 
Format all the things!
 
9:05 AM
Okay got it to workk finally
 
@RoelvanUden @AvnerShahar-Kashtan thanks
 
@scheien public string EmptyString { get { return string.Format(string.Empty);}}
 
What is according to you the best way to decrease the file size of an image? What if I'd convert the image to png format and then resizing if comrpession is not sufficient?
 
How can I pul a random out of a list?
int index = Rcard.Next(0, List<Card>.Length);
Says that my list doesnt contain a definition for length
 
However the quality of the original image should be mantained... keep in mind that it shouldn't be a picture (real life image) but a logo
 
9:10 AM
@MaartenWachters List<Card> is a type, not an instance
An instance of list has a length
 
But int index = Rcard.Next(0, Cards.Length); doesn't work either
Which is an instance
 
I don't believe you
Oops, its Count, not Length
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan var emptyString = string.Format(EmptyString);
 
Arrays have a Length. I think the difference is that arrays are immutable
(Sort of. Resize is sneaky)
 
Thank tom
If u google it literally all u get in answers about arrays
 
9:16 AM
@ErroreFatale Resizing to be smaller and forcing a different bit width are valid methods of reducing image size. It's just that you'd have to resize, check the new size, and resize smaller instead if it's still too large. And continue doing that until you got a size you're happy with. This is resource and time intensive.
 
It pains me to say this but I found something in resharper I like
 
I hate resharper and I still buy it
 
why? I dont understand the hate twords resharper
imo it has good features
 
it has a good feature yes
 
yes but its bloated
its heavy
vs could've added this all themselves
 
9:19 AM
^
 
tru that
 
it should be many smaller extensions
 
but they didnt... so you have this little ad-on
 
the fact that it exists is a failing from microsoft
 
hmmmm it's not that heavy but sometimes you feel that is bugging VS. but its due to my computer
sometimes it actually gives you nice hints to change something
but I agree with you, it should be built-in to VS already
 
9:24 AM
@scheien var neatlyFormattedEmptyString = string.Format("{0}", emptyString);
 
 lbDeck.Items.Refresh;
I don't get why exactly that doesn't work
"only assignment call increment decrement await and new object expressions can be used as a statement"
 
refresh() got it
 
I think it says what it does in the hints
 
Today I wrote spaghetticode worthy of being served with bolognaise sauce
 
9:29 AM
damn I want that
dont make me more hungry then I am
damn you
 
@MaartenWachters bad
 
It's not like I choose to
It doesn't even do wtf I want it to do
But I'm going to take a break before I go insane
 
I dont think refresh() is actually what you want. the word is misleading
be aware XD
 
@Darth_Wardy this all good, MS are too busy for small stuff...there will always be 3rd party tools that add value
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan Thats neat :)
 
9:34 AM
yeah they make money aswell
 
@Ggalla1779 my gripe if anything is that I want 1 feature of resharper and shouldn't have to install it all
 
yeah you can howl at the moon its not going to change
 
well that's why i just install resharper, use the 1 feature I need then remove it again
 
@Darth_Wardy which is that feature?
 
lol wardy thats just extreme
probably reference optimization
 
9:45 AM
@ntohl does it matter ... but yeh @misha130 it is
 
There are plugins for that.
 
I just sort of turn off resharper when i open a page
 
Plugins that just do reference optimization.
 
the point is that resharper appears to be the only thing that does it right
 
instead of uninstalling the whole thing
 
9:46 AM
@RoelvanUden I went through loads, amny get this job horribly wrong
 
@Darth_Wardy You can Enable/Disable Resharper, you know. Keep it installed, but only enable it when you need a feature.
A bit less time-consuming.
 
@misha130 I rarely need this function, only bother when i'm about to do a release build
 
Whenever I don't need VS, I uninstall it and reinstall it
 
:^)
I literally just use vs code 99%
 
Do that with webforms and you deserve a cookie!
 
9:47 AM
VS Code <3
 
I have yet to use VSCode for C#.
 
@RoelvanUden it's fine for smaller projects.
something something microservices
 
unrelevant note that vs code is not an ide(very relevant)
 
I just can't get excited about C# anymore anyway, so meh.
 
9:49 AM
@RoelvanUden from the website it doesnt offer that much
 
@RoelvanUden Until the day they implement non-nullable parameters, and then your interest will arise like a phoenix from the ashes?
 
its like you grew out of c#
 
That is a real scenario. But then I'll just hate on threads
But I can work around threads; I can't work around nullables.
So yeah, probably.
 
damn I've yet to use LINQ T.T
 
@misha130 No.. I just grew tired of bullshit. All these "new features" that offer "convenience" are just band aid for broken designs and everyone is raving about how awesome these features are. What I need is for the broken designs to be fixed, and I'll be raving about the awesomeness like a lunatic again. Until then, I'll continue hating the trend of adding useless language features to a bad basis
 
9:54 AM
from vs 10 to 13 you notice a big big improvement
 
?.
 
good morning
can anybody help to take data from my data set to an datatable created in c# imgur.com/a/03wH6
 
Fix the goddamn basis, then we don't need these "convenience" features, and for gods sake remove all those 10-year old APIs that are so terrible and new users still begin to use (e.g. BackgroundWorker bullshit etc)
 
in features
 
one of the ugliest band-aids imaginable there
 
9:55 AM
@Squiggle Exactly. ?. is one of them.
??
primary constructors
 
@Squiggle VS 13?
 
@Mr.Toxy the ?. operator
 
@Mr.Toxy VS doesnt give features in terms of language
 
oh I see yeah I dont like it either
 
yeah what is it with primary constructors? I don't understand why they exist tbh.
 
9:56 AM
@Squiggle Didn't they drop them in C#6?
 
@RoelvanUden I was thinking more in Intellisense, wich had a big improvement
 
@Squiggle To make code less verbose while they really wanted record types
 
dunno. I never even tried to use 'em.
 
Instead of adding that, just add record types then. Jeez.
 
@Roel I am guessing you switched to TS?
 
9:57 AM
meh they do as they pls. imo it shoud be developed under the users feedback
build by people who actually know what they need
what features are important
 
@RoelvanUden That's what they ended up doing. They dropped primary constructors in C# 6 to focus on record types for C# 7.
@Mr.Toxy That's just design by committee. There are 10 million users with 15 million opinions.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan but they can at least analyze that feedback or ask for opinions something.
but you end up not using half of it's features anyway
 

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