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7:00 PM
I like get all possible
 
My PM said if not having access will interfere with dev work and I'm like no....
and he never gave me access lol
 
Perhaps GetSelectedPreferences for the second one though
 
@KalaJ consider yourself lucky. Working with Access is a nightmare.
 
work coffee isn't caffeinated enough
getting sleepy
 
@Codeman - What is the class name of these methods
 
7:01 PM
ProfileSettingsBuilder is the model accessor, ProfileSettingsController is the api controller
for the api controller, I'm just going to have both be GetSettings but one you can pass in an ID
 
@Jeremy get a double caffeine creamers
 
@Codeman GetAvailablePreferences, GetCurrentUserPreferences
 
var psb = new ProfileSettingsBuilder();
var allPrefs = psb.AllPreferences();
var userPrefs = psb.UserPreferences();
?
 
I like GetAvailable and GetCurrent, gonna leave out the user though
 
@mikeTheLiar, why are you working with Access?
 
7:02 PM
@Codeman Sure, didn't know if it was redundant based on class/context
 
it's just weird because I kind of need exception details to debug and apparently, he never thought of that? weird
 
No, it was just a silly joke.
 
Using Get as a prefix seems kind of redundant
 
haha ok
 
It was a MS Access reference (which hopefully you have never heard of)
 
7:03 PM
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Class not found using the boot class loader; no stack trace available
 
i hate when i test something in jasmine that obviously passes when i'm looking at the browser, but fails because javascript sucks
 
no stack trace available LOL
I heard of Access, isn't like UI for dbs?
 
Access is what happens when analysts grow out of Excel
 
user47589
Access is fine for what it was made for, one-off small databases you can throw together in an hour. the trouble is companies use it for enterprisey stuff
 
My ex used it for hospital db
 
7:06 PM
oh man
those poor patients
 
lol
 
user47589
a couple of years ago i went to a mortage company to teach them how to script our application. they used Access to power their multi-billion dollar business.
 
@KalaJ there were no survivors
 
> "Don't worry sir, our database is on a budget thinner than a toothpick so we will take great care of you!"
 
My last job one of the projects I worked on was translating a Filemaker database into a CSV so it could be imported into Bullhorn. That was fun.
(Filemaker is the Apple version of Access)
 
7:08 PM
@Amy - Yeah, a business founded on the idea that rich people will deposit money though. It probably didn't need heuristics or anything.
 
user47589
it was a subprime lender
 
user47589
they later went belly-up
 
But then they got bailed out and reformed?
Subprime is alive and well at the moment unfortunately =/
 
user47589
IIRC they were bought out by a competitor.
 
yayyyyy javascript
rockkkks
!!momentofclarity
 
7:10 PM
yesterday, by Squiggle
COCKBAGGING KNOBJOCKEY SWASH-TITTY CHOADGOBBLER
 
user47589
very mature
 
i try
 
user47589
Keep up the hard work.
 
I enjoy my message minimizer tool :)
 
user47589
We need more like you.
 
7:11 PM
@Amy :D
 
way to be a b
 
user47589
a b?
 
user47589
You misspelled "pony"
 
a b c
 
7:11 PM
a b c
 
hah!
 
java is painful
 
1 2 3
 
do re mi
 
lmao
 
7:12 PM
( •_•) I before E
( •_•)>⌐■-■
(⌐■_■) Except after C
 
the java class is inside my project yet project complains it's not there... why java, java?
 
user47589
ask in the java room. we don't serve that kind here.
 
user47589
we've got standards
 
in soviet russia, java javas you
 
Would you rather be forced to use 1) Winforms or 2) Swing for the rest of your professional life?
 
tough one, but i think winforms still wins
 
@mikeTheLiar - I mean... what if we are already swinging?
 
I actually don't regret the Swing development I had to do. It helped me learn to keep my UI code very well organized.
 
I didn't mind scrubbing the toilet with a toothbrush. It helped me learn to clean porcelain very thoroughly.
 
7:16 PM
:^)
 
They'll be confused because it's a java error in visual studio
 
need help
 
They'll be like what the heck are you doing?
 
I mean, I'm glad I don't have to do it any more, but I don't regret having had done it in the past.
 
Then I'll be like... umm Xamarin ...
 
7:16 PM
the server team is building some java rest services for our websites. we cant them to pass even the most basic rest-api tests, like 405, 400, etc
the convoluted way you have to handle things is priceless
took them a couple weeks to figure out how to "unwrap" an object after a GET call. Everything was coming back like { "employee": {...} }
 
catch (Exception e)
{
    throw new Exception("Java.Lang.ClassNotFoundException");
}
@VaibhavPandya that's rude, but i'll take a therapist if you're paying
 
I wish I can do that but guess what?
I can't do try-catch in Xamarin
it won't hit
 
@KalaJ wat
 
the exceptions get passed to HockeyApp which I don't have access because PM thinks it's a burden to give access until I really need it right now
 
9 secs ago, by mikeTheLiar
@KalaJ wat
 
user47589
7:21 PM
HockeyApp
 
@KalaJ tell the PM it's a burden to you now not to have it
 
user47589
HokeyApp
 
Kind of confusing but the exceptions are java
 
"you played an excellent gatekeeper, really, top job, but give me the keys now"
 
even though I'm writing in C#
so I believe that's why they don't hit
the exceptions are thrown in native code
idk how to explain it
 
7:22 PM
That's because it doesn't make any sense
 
did you check the native code in debug option?
 
user47589
why would you get Java exceptions from C# code
 
the rebuild of my project took 5 minutes!
wow
 
@Amy Zuul is coming
 
@Amy Xamarin
@TravisJ might explain it better because he's smart :P
But there's two step compilation or build?
build the c#
 
user47589
7:24 PM
he's pretty smart.
 
build the code to java
something like that
 
I've been waiting for you. You have many exceptions, and although Java has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably a developer. Ergo, some of my answers you will understand, and some of them you will not. Concordantly, while your first question may be the most pertinent, you may or may not realize it is also irrelevant.
 
user47589
build the c# code to java? that makes zero sense, I call your sanity into question.
 
Someone explain how Xamarin works
under the hood
 
user47589
Xamarin doesn't have a hood.
 
7:27 PM
Here's some info but some of it goes over my head to be honest
 
Okay, here is my best guess / analysis.
I think that it has preset ML compilations for each chipset available. As most mobile devices are now using rather large instruction sets it is easier to pigeonhole them. For example, most Android devices run on ARM. Almost all the mobile devices have a kernel which runs on C so as long as the ML compiled plays nice with the exact chipset and can be interpreted by the device's kernel, the code should work. All that is left is to make sure that only the subset of instructions are used.
 
What the shit is this?
class ManagedValue : Java.Lang.Object {

    public string Value {get; private set;}

    public ManagedValue (string value)
    {
        Value = value;
    }

    public override string ToString ()
    {
        return string.Format ("[Managed: Value={0}]", Value);
    }
}
 
my eyes!
 
user47589
what the hell
 
@KalaJ explain this monstrosity
 
7:32 PM
 
user47589
i love it
 
so intense
 
user47589
it perfectly captures my facial expression.
 
lol
 
7:37 PM
@Michael Command disgusting learned
 
@Michael I don't think that's going to one-box
!!disgusting
 
noooo!
 
!!learn oneboxtest "<>http://pinkie.mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/rsz/mlfw5174_small.png"
 
@mikeTheLiar Command oneboxtest learned
 
7:38 PM
!!oneboxtest
 
user47589
i'm going to use that all the time
 
I don't know why you have to do that but there you have it
!!forget oneboxtest
 
@mikeTheLiar Command oneboxtest forgotten.
 
!!forget disgusting
 
7:38 PM
@mikeTheLiar You are not authorized to delete the command disgusting
 
!!learn disgusting "<>http://pinkie.mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/rsz/mlfw5174_small.png"
 
@Michael Illegal /learn object; see /help learn
 
You have to tell her to forget it first I think
 
oh
!!forget disgusting
 
@Michael Command disgusting forgotten.
 
7:39 PM
!!learn disgusting "<>http://pinkie.mylittlefacewhen.com/media/f/rsz/mlfw5174_small.png"
 
@Michael Command disgusting learned
 
!!disgusting
 
fantastic!
 
!!party
 
7:40 PM
 
Dear diary, today was a good day
 
today was otay
 
ok i like having fancy maintenance plans on my cars
"yeah everythings corroded so we'll fix it, covered on warranty"
 
I am sick of cars with high mileage
If it goes past like 40k then that is it, I am done. Stick a fork in me, Jerry.
 
@TravisJ i bought one with 47
my old one had 190k lol
I'm a loyal guy.
 
7:42 PM
@Jeremy - I have an old one that is at 270k
 
@TravisJ my car has 147k on it rn
 
I am hopefully getting one this weekend with 7k on it. And then I can push the 270 off a cliff somewhere
 
@TravisJ which car do you have now?
 
a 91 trans am
 
:o
and what are you buying?!
 
7:43 PM
a 2010 camaro ss
 
with... 7k...
 
yup
 
oh boy
 
My coworker sees the wiki page for that and was like "weekend plans already"?
 
4 messages moved to Trash can
 
7:47 PM
always in the shop, never on the road?
 
oh you're no fun
 
@mikeTheLiar you've kick-muted me for much less.
:)
 
Just the once xD
 
@TomW - That is how my current one is. I just stopped repairing it. All that works is the gas pedal, the brake pedal, the steering wheel, and the clutch.
 
yay. I am now uninstalling VS and SQL for the 3rd time to reinstall from scratch.
I'm about a half hour from formatting the drive entirely.
 
user47589
7:51 PM
Proceed.
 
@MichaelEdenfield - Incompatible versions? Why not just use VM's with the different VS and SQL versions installed?
 
no, I only run 1 version.
but for some reason, it has no intellisense or syntax highlighting in any XAML or Razor views.
it keeps telling me something's "not installed right"
 
user47589
razor requires the web pack.
 
user47589
i dont think its installed by default
 
Sounds like a VS bug @_Codeman!
 
7:55 PM
did u try repairing VS before uninstalling?
 
shiiiiiit
 
@Jeremy actually, there's not a record of that or anything is there? I was just having a laugh with that, I wouldn't want to actually get you in any sort of trouble
 
@mikeTheLiar well next time i'm kick-muted it's for longer
other than that i don't think so
Also @TravisJ I think you should buy this instead.
 
That's a boat.
 
when your looking at your code and say, I guess goto it the right thing to do..
 
user47589
8:04 PM
i think codeman was getting annoyed about us taking VS questions to him
 
user47589
sometimes GOTO is the right answer.
 
user47589
but be careful you aren't eaten by a velociraptor if you use GOTO
 
user47589
> My mind dreams of a distant land.
My new reality of Sun, Sex and Sand.
All the sweet sensations & high expectations
On my knees I pray,
Let the good times come my way.
 
I'm having regrets about Xamarin now
I spend a lot of time just working on build errors lol
this is so sad
now it's a reference dll error
 
user47589
fuck. firewall just started blocking Pandora
 
8:12 PM
@Jeremy - heh classy :)
 
user47589
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
 
We have 1-2 hours/day of unusable everything because the firewall gets maxed out by people doing personal crap on the office network over lunch
 
lol
what kind of stuff maxes out the firewall?
 
thermite
 
God knows, videos and stuff I guess
or general browsing
something is screwed anyway
 
user47589
8:16 PM
oh wow, everything is blocked
 
user47589
i dont know why i can still chat
 
@Amy Because you already have an open connection?
 
user47589
that stupid bathroom law
 
user47589
i guess so kendall
 
8:19 PM
@Amy I wish I could find this again, but I saw a picture of this big, burly biker dude, giant beard, covered in tattoos standing in a women's bathroom. The caption said something like, "Is this the sort of person you want in your female bathrooms?" And the punchline was that he had been born a woman
 
user47589
which is pretty absurd.
 
Okay so maybe not a giant beard
 
That hat. That fucking hat.
 
I... I think it's just a regular hat.
 
I don't see why that guy is going in the women's bathroom at all though. He is a guy, he should be in the guys bathroom?
 
8:25 PM
@TravisJ that's the point. According to the law in NC because he was born a woman he has to use to woman's restroom
 
@TravisJ The point is, he's not allowed
 
coed bathrooms. problem solved. new problems.
 
Law and enforcement are two very different things.
 
This is why the law is fucking stupid
 
Who would stop that guy from going in the men's bathroom? No one.
 
8:26 PM
@TravisJ Would you want to risk being caught and have a sexual offence on your record?
 
Yeah, the law is ridiculous. But why is that guy in the women's bathroom?! =/
 
@TravisJ that's not the point. It's about respect
 
@TravisJ Because he has to.
 
single stall bathrooms; fixes everything don't share at all
 
just make all bathrooms unisex, that solves everything
 
8:27 PM
If he was charged the supreme court would rule in his favor. It would have more effect than any state legislature.
 
It's about not making him feel like he's a freak, not tying him to something that he's probably been trying to get away from his entire life
 
imagine he goes into the womens, he would be arrested
 
@Codeman not everything
 
@KendallFrey IT. SOLVES. EVERYTHING
 
@CharlieBrown then he whips out his....birth certificate
 
8:28 PM
@CharlieBrown yeah, probably, but no crime
 
@Codeman DOES IT SOLVE INTER-SPECIES BEAR EROTICA
 
user47589
yay Pandora's back
 
sure, but could you not argue the psychological impact of being arrested would have?
 
@TravisJ @TravisJ but that "don't ask/don't tell" sort of attitude is bullshit
 
!!google attack helicopter sexual identity copypasta
 
"Build failed" but there are no errors, warning or stacktrace as to why... I hate Java
 
@mikeTheLiar - That guy is freaking women out in the bathroom every day.
 
I want to go back to the safe ,comfortable and familiar world of MVC
 
I get it, the law sucks. It should change.
But that doesn't mean you have to make a point of it by making people uneasy.
 
Guys so i am looking through the dom explorer and i can see a div with class something like <div class="k-widget k-window"></div>
 
8:30 PM
shitty southern states are passing regressive laws near the end of the legislative sessions to get the old bigoted fucks that vote in high percentages to show up at the polls. They know the laws won't stand up, and don't care
 
Actually I think it does.
 
What selector should I use to target just this particular div
 
@TravisJ How do you know? Most likely he's just proving a point on that one instance
 
.k-widget k-window will work?
 
@KendallFrey - A fair point.
 
8:31 PM
Because his options are 1) use the bathroom the law requires him to and make everything awkward and shit or 2) use the bathroom he should use and possibly end up with a criminal record
 
@mikeTheLiar I wanna know how they'll enforce it. "sir, you're going to need to produce your birth certificate"
 
He should just move to California.
 
they're not planning on enforcing it, it's just a political move to make trans people feel like second class citizens and make the bigoted righteous assholes feel like they're on the right side of history for once
 
user47589
People should be able to use the bathroom that matches their gender identity. Regulating who can go into which bathroom is a waste of time.
 
@TravisJ that's unfortunate but the severity of the consequences were he to break the letter of the law and be pulled up on it are just unacceptable. I don't know how it works over there, but here if you're a convicted sex offender, forget getting a job for however long you have to sign the register, and working with children ever
 
8:32 PM
@Amy - I agree with that.
 
Its just a tactic by these politicians to gain sympathy from their conservative voters
 
@TravisJ pretty much
 
@mikeTheLiar The only way he ends up with a criminal record is a) no surgery and b) someone else commits a crime
 
That is all about it
 
@KendallFrey but beyond that it's an issue of respecting someone's identity
 
user47589
8:35 PM
Republicans lost on gay marriage, so they've turned their attention to demonizing another related demographic.
 
user47589
Nothing unites their base like being afraid of people who aren't exactly like them.
 
Adult Swim Fax Machine Update: Lots of dick butt coming in now
 
What selector should I use for this <div class="k-widget k-window"></div>
.k-widget k-window ??
I guess I should be asking this in html or css chatroom lol
 
user47589
that selector should work. have you tried it?
 
@Amy they are sore losers
 
user47589
8:37 PM
You aren't AccountUnknown so there's a chance you've actually tried something
 
hey guys, can I ask a conceptually question about the .csproj file?
How often does it get generated?
 
Once?
 
Can we give a conceptual answer?
 
if I delete it, will be regenerated?
 
yikes!
 
user47589
8:40 PM
no
 
sure lol
 
Yeah that selector is not owrking
 
user47589
if you delete it, it is gone forever and ever
 
@KalaJ the csproj is the glue that ties everything together
 
There are version conflicts between csproj and my references
right now
 
8:41 PM
Without it you've just got a random collection of .cs files
 
How can I resolve the version conflicts besides manually editing the file? lol
 
user47589
@Obviously are you preceding each class in the selector with a period? div.k-widget.k-window
 
@Amy you for real or you joking?
 
@KalaJ don't. You have to manually edit it. Very carefully.
 
how does get updated?
 
8:41 PM
@Amy no i am not
should i?
 
user47589
I think I'm real.
 
during a clean and rebuild?
 
user47589
yes, classes must be preceded by a . in CSS selectors.
 
so something like this ?? div.k-widget.k-window
 
user47589
@KalaJ a project file is only updated when you change something in the project.
 
8:42 PM
Specifically, when you add/remove/rename something
 
@Amy - if(you.think){ you.are }
 
that toner waste though
 
I took the changes from server and the versions from server do not match local versions of references
what should I do?
the versions in .csproj and packages.config are different
 
user47589
merge the conflicts.
 
Grrr div.k-widget.k-window that does not works
 
8:44 PM
@Jeremy what was that picture towards the right before it got covered up?
 
@mikeTheLiar idk i missed it
looks erotic though
some guy in a thong grinding up on Skwisgaar
 
user47589
@Obviously what is the exact jquery line you're using?
 
Its just css
where did jquery come from
 
user47589
I assumed you were using jquery selectors.
 
user47589
It works locally. I'm guessing your selector matches but is getting overridden.
 
8:48 PM
@amy, I can't merge two different files
do you mean align the versions?
 
Nope, I guess it does by some kendo shit
 
@Obviously if you're not using jQuery, add jQuery. If you are using jQuery, add more jQuery.
 
user47589
no, the process is called "merge the conflicts"
 
or should I just risk screwing everything up by deleting all the references
and then getting them again from nuget
 
@KalaJ give up and reclone the project
 
user47589
8:49 PM
its also called "resolving the conflicts"
 
Nuke it from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.
 
user47589
then install JicamaJS
 
To all stupid put all "Conflicts" in your asshole
 
@mikeTheLiar, yeah I know
I think I will nuke
cry all night
then pull it again and add in my changes again
But the sad thing with Xamarin is...
 
user47589
TFS conflict resolution tools suck.
 
8:50 PM
like @MikeAsdf or @R593B experienced.... it will take me 2 days to get the "environment" setup properly for Xamarin pssff
I will have to upgrade Xamarin package they're using
etc
ohh I think I know why :S
I checked the path of the packages and I have three versions of the same reference with different versions!!
so sad...
 
does anyone know how to configure a custom nuget feed in a DNX project?
can it be done per project?
 

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