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6:00 PM
heh
that misspell tho
 
@Amy nice ... thx
 
For a angularjs app, should I bundle all the minified files into 1? or have two files, where one contains my logic, and the other contains angularjs libs w/ friends?
 
user47589
it doesn't matter as long as you're generating the map files
 
@wadry - Don't use that
There is a way easier method to making the xml
 
if you have too large files bundled as one you have a caching problem @scheien
 
6:04 PM
@TravisJ yeh xsd.exe seems to do odd shit the other way ... so I have been sat here thinking ... do i dare
 
which map files? I don't know what they are @Amy
 
@wadry - Okay, so, go to the class you want to -> xml, and copy the entire thing. Then go to where you want the xml in visual studio, and go to paste special -> as xml.
 
user47589
!!tell scheien google javascript source maps
 
#nextproblem
 
@misha130: What type of caching problem?
 
tnx @Amy, I'll go read some
 
well to check if 304 should be returned more of the file is downloaded so to compare the file on the server
 
@TravisJ XSD not xml
 
really?
 
Why do so many places insist on overcooking chicken?
 
6:06 PM
cause kfc
 
user47589
source maps for JS are like .pdb files for C#. they contain debugging information and map symbols from the minified JS to the original.
 
I hate dry chicken
 
@wadry - Argh :( I am too json I suppose. What is the difference?
 
@misha130 maybe I'll start my own kfc. With blackjack. And hookers.
 
with sloppy chickens?
i am out
 
6:07 PM
@mikeTheLiar - Undercooked chicken is a good way to get sick
 
@TravisJ XSD is the schema that defines what a lump of valid xml might look like
 
@TravisJ really? A schema defines the structure of a document
 
you use it to validate your xml
 
@TravisJ I'm not talking about undercooked chicken. I'm talking about overcooked chicken
 
Xml schema is itself xml
 
6:08 PM
hm
 
@wadry I do something stupid I go on a website that converts C# to xml and then xml to xsd website
 
I am very happy I didn't get forced into using xml anywhere
 
@TomW one thing I haven't yet seen ... is there a jsonSD equivelent ?
 
@wadry - Probably not, in c# you just deserialize into a class definition
 
@misha130 lol good start I spose
 
6:09 PM
@wadry I have seen a notion of json schema, somewhere
 
hmmm neat
 
in typescript?
 
Or you can parse it as an anonymous object
 
The thing is, schematization weaves its way in everywhere. Suppose you define a json schema...what's the schema for your schema?
 
This is why we looked into hiring Gollum. He is great at scheming.
 
6:10 PM
gollum.js
Ship it.
 
take my $$
 
^
lol
 
user47589
json schema is an IETF draft
 
@Amy: Do you use source maps in production? or just in dev/staging?
 
user47589
just in dev
 
6:13 PM
alright
seems cool, need to try it out.
 
user47589
grunt/gulp have utilities to generate source maps, but i'm barely familiar with them.
 
I have gulp for minifying/bundling now, probably not that much more configuration needed to generate the map files
 
user47589
yeah, i don't think it is.
 
Should I, or should I not bundle all angular libs into 1?
for prod
 
user47589
i've bundled them all into 1. the thing you'll run into is when one small angular library changes, the entire bundle will have to be re-fetched by clients.
 
6:16 PM
how about this
bundle them in 2 files
 
user47589
if you split it up, then clients will only need to fetch the bundle containing the changed module.
 
check speed
 
mm, yeah. need to do the queryparameter hack then
 
bundle them in to 1 and check speed
 
speed as in network transfer?
 
6:17 PM
yes
and amount of data
 
I'm more worried about number of requests
 
if thats the case go for 1
 
This is the worst job ad I've ever seen glassdoor.co.uk/partner/…
 
I'll just give them all a go, and do some simple checks, as suggested
 
Might have posted before
 
6:19 PM
tnx @misha130 & @Amy
 
user47589
can you paste the job ad here? firewall has GlassDoor blocked.
 
> BIG DATA (WTF that is),
haha
 
user47589
BIG DATA IS BEST DATA
 
you know what they say about men with big data
 
@Amy: does pastie work for you? pastie.org/10795349
 
6:20 PM
@Amy that sounds scummy
 
(are we still doing those?)
 
user47589
yeah thanks
 
Pretty stunning that a specialist recruiter says big data( wtf that is)
 
user47589
that author is a terrible writer
 
Needs photoshop of Brent Spiner in costume doctored to look enormous
 
6:21 PM
What is/are a knuckledragger?
 
user47589
!!urban knuckledragger
 
@Amy [knuckle dragger](http://knuckle-dragger.urbanup.com/841283) Reminiscent of the hunched over cave man, with his arms to the ground. An insult used against those of extremely low intelligence, or general stupidity.

Also see [\[low brow\]](http://urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=low%20brow)
 
user47589
well that job has "better coffee"
 
mmmm large datasets
 
user47589
i'm gonna apply.
 
user47589
6:22 PM
The coffee is always browner in the other cup.
 
Totally
Almost black over there I imagine
 
Racist
 
user47589
the coffee is darkest at midnight
 
Do you think the Siths have the best coffee?
 
Who's a TFS expert?
I took server copy and I want to revert back to my local copy on my local machine
 
user47589
6:25 PM
I bet they do.
 
rip
 
user47589
I'm an expert TFS Coach. The first thing we need to do is get you off of TFS.
 
@KalaJ: Can't you just revert to the changeset you want?
 
@KalaJ I'm sure @Codeman could ask someone at MSFT for you
 
Did you check in, got a conflict, and took the server version?
 
6:27 PM
@KalaJ did you have local changes? If you had uncommitted changes, I don't think you can
 
-_-
 
@Codeman :^)/
 
I just want to revert a single file
 
hi @Jeremy
 
user47589
hey @CodeMan
 
6:27 PM
the csproj
 
@KalaJ to what?
 
@Codeman I'd leave you alone if Kendall's mom worked at Microsoft
(meeting clients on the microsoft campus does not count as working at microsoft)
 
@KalaJ: if you want a checked in version I'd imagine you can get it through the repobrowser (don't remember what it's called in tfs anymore, hooray!)
 
@Jeremy what do those things have to....y'know what, no, I'm not getting involved
 
So I just got the latest changes from the server
 
6:29 PM
@TomW too late sry
 
and then there are merge conflicts
 
you're super involved now
 
I just want to resolve them locally (not check them in)
so I resolved them all
 
user47589
The floor recognizes @TomW as super involved.
 
but I screwed up by taking the .csproj server file
and I want to revert it to take back local
 
6:30 PM
are files missing since you want to revert? just show all files, and include the ones you are missing.
 
not it's not missing, I overwrote my local copy with server
I don't want that
I want to revert that specific file only
 
he means files from your project
not csproj itself
 
You can't, your changes are gone, you overwrote them
 
there's no undo file change?
I thought mercurial had that option
 
Not that I know of
 
6:33 PM
Not unless you have commited it earlier
 
I'm looking for something similar in TFS
ohhh
you're right maybe because I didn't commit
hmm
but I shelved my changes
 
Until it's committed a changeset doesn't exist
 
can I see the old .csproj shelf?
 
It would have made you merge first anyway
@KalaJ why didn't you say that?! Of course, that's what shelving is for. Pending changes > dropdown at top > view shelvesets
 
aww I didn't shelf the .csproj file noooo
LOL
 
6:35 PM
most likely he didnt shelf csproj
 
waving the git flag
 
Haha yes!
 
MOST LIKELY
 
so I'm pretty sure I'm getting this error in my build: stackoverflow.com/questions/5134137/…
because My coworker and I are using different versions of Xamarin.Forms
I'm using the latest, they're not
and I think the version references in .csproj screwed everything up
but I could be wrong
 
They should update.
 
6:36 PM
@KalaJ clean rebuild
 
they don't because the dependecies will be downgraded
This is crazy
but
 
downgraded? why? shouldn't they be upgraded? isn't that what a update is for? :)
 
Latest Xamarin requires older Android support library dependencies
 
(I have no clue about xamarin)
 
Older Xamarin has newer android support library dependencies
Yes, this is crazy and no idea why the devs did that
I did a clean... working on a rebuild now
Hope this works :S
Takes so much time out of development to fix these build errors for Xamarin
 
6:40 PM
At least you're not working on webforms based crap :)
 
                                                                                      GOD MODE ENABLED
 
user47589
in TypeScript, how does one define a function that returns a function with a particular signature? getUpdateHandler = (): (n: INotification<any>) => { } doesn't work
 
@RyanTernier what's "good mode"? working softwa-- BAHAHAHA
 
@RyanTernier Are you a Gode?
 
Doge gode
 
user47589
6:43 PM
He's a Goa'uld!
 
DOGE MODE
 
Developer spelling FTW!@
!!doge god mode win
 
         wow
very god mode win
 
user47589
@RyanTernier are you a Goa'uld?
 
6:43 PM
you mean Devloper?
 
!!doge doge, gode, type-O
 
      wow
                 so doge
                             very  gode
such  type-O
 
!!google gode mode
 
haha
 
6:44 PM
wow...
 
@SteveG what if you're reading a quarterly report
 
Did you mean doge mode?
 
or what if your boss tells you if you don't you'll get fired
is that business logic or workplace logic
 
That's business illogic
 
in which site in the stackoverflow family of sites can i ask that question
 
user47589
6:45 PM
the Java chat room
 
Rebuild does nothing nooooo
 
@Jeremy bloop
 
> POWER OVERWHELMING
 
@SteveG qoold
 
backwards
i noticed
:p
 
6:48 PM
q:
 
user47589
YOU REQUIRE MORE VESPENE GAS
 
> what's mine is mine
 
user47589
whats yours is mine
 
mindprod.com/jgloss/intvsinteger.html ... wow ... i mean ... wow ... java is stupid
 
all your base are belong to us
 
6:49 PM
int = 4 bytes ... integer is a box which contains 4 bytes
 
ah you beat me to it @TravisJ
 
@scheien - great minds :P
 
All your mines are belong to I
 
is that safe @Jeremy?
 
6:50 PM
> That is like asking which is better a volley ball or a volleyball in a Fedex box. It depends what you want to do with it.
 
@scheien worksafe? yeah
 
Awesome simile/mwtaphor fuck knows I don't english
 
is it failsafe?
 
@Failsafe yes
 
@Jeremy: Everything is safe where I work.
 
6:50 PM
@Jeremy ...Fax? O.o
 
keep you guys posted but it seems like restarting VS did the trick? WTH lol
 
What is a "fax"?
@KalaJ - I knew I forgot to ask you if you had turned it off... and then back on again!
 
Is VS that finicky that restarting it is better than a clean + rebuild?
Haha travis
 
lol, the petitions are fed directly into a recycle bin
 
All software can be broken down into a series of turning things off and then back on.
 
6:52 PM
gg adult swim
I'm not masochistic enough to enjoy Adult Swim shows.
 
some are good
like the eric andre show
!!youtube eric andre demi lovato
 
@Codeman Video not found (rule 35?)
 
user47589
♫♫ Too Many Cooks ♫♫
 
Oh my god someone is dicking around with the official metalocalypse fax machine
Ok they've stopped
Had a forearm flame tattoo
 
metalocalypse sounds like a sequel to ozzfest
 
6:56 PM
@TomW Guy Fieri?
 
they've ruined the stream
just like they ruined the show
 
don't cross the streams
 
Is anyone here present prepared to fax their dick to adult swim?
 
@TomW Probably.
 
user47589
someone sent John Oliver's church a 5-foot dick statue, so yeah
 
6:57 PM
@Failsafe no idea, only the arm was visible
 
@Amy - Hey, it finally arrived!
 
c# devs, I know this is Java but....
 
user47589
lol
 
Java.Lang.ClassNotFoundException: Didn't find class "Foo"
 
user47589
no, no java
 
6:58 PM
Does that mean someone forgot to add a file?
 
@KalaJ The problem is that you are attempting to compile java code
 
Did you look in the FooFactory?
 
user47589
it means you're using java.
 
haha
 
A++++++ snark guys keep it up
 
6:59 PM
merge errors suck
 
user47589
you can find the FooFactory inside the FooFactoryProxyAdapter
 
haha
 
so I have 2 methods. One gets the list of possible preferences, one gets the preferences currently set for a user. What are some good names for these?
GetStaticPreferences, GetUserPreferences sounds dumb.
 
@Codeman HR?
 
huh?
 
6:59 PM
rimshot
 
-_-
 
user47589
GetAllPossiblePreferences and GetCurrentPreferences
 
Wanna hear something funny? All the java exception details get pushed to a HockeyApp
and I don't have access :S
 

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