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12:03 AM
yeah but if you don't use the offsets, the columns will render weird
 
user47589
Zurb Foundation has a "end" class to indicate the last column, so you can use fewer than 12
 
user47589
Bootstrap probably has an equivalent.
 
2:24 AM
posted on April 13, 2016 by Scott Hanselman

Hosting your own NuGet Server, particularly when you're a company or even a small workgroup is a super useful thing. It's a great way to ensure that the build artifacts of each team are NuGet Packages and that other teams are consuming those packages, rather than loose DLLs. From the NuGet site: There are several third-party NuGet Servers available that make remote private feeds easy to con

 
 
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5:32 AM
@RyanTernier Spare yourself the pain, and don't use float.
@Jeremy Oh, that's a nice remix, I like it.
Got that 80s feel to it
and good morning everyone!
 
5:53 AM
Good morning to all and sundry.
 
6:07 AM
Good morning
 
Morning
why I suddenly started getting this
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Server: Microsoft-IIS/8.5
Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2016 05:31:48 GMT
Connection: close
 
morning everyone
 
Morning
I was seeing that instead of my website :/
all of a sudden
 
@Feeds @the mouse over text. I'm fairly certain that's how Github came to live.
@Mathematics well, check your server logs and find out
 
6:31 AM
@SteffenWinkler seems like my web server was hacked
 
6:56 AM
Sweet
Guess it's time to reinstall then, unless it's only the db that got injected with fun stuff
 
it's hardware level virus, I can see it there sitting on the harddisk's spindal like a snake
 
woah, launched eReceipt feature yesterday, and it works like a charm.
 
7:21 AM
Good morning.
 
We need a bot for Good morning now
 
good morning
 
Morning all
 
@scheien Of course it works like a charm. You made it, right?
also good morning, all
 
7:53 AM
just pushed my risk managment platform live this morning
waiting for the world to explode
 
If you wrote it, how can it possibly go wrong? Be positive! :P
 
@RoelvanUden Its gone through so many iterations now its scary, so much feature creep
every time I "finish" it I get "Oh good now can you make it do X" where X is a feature that is so masively against the grain of what it already does and has never even been spoken about befor that it requires huge amounts of rewrites to put in
Or the API that provides the data we work from changes
 
Ahh, an environment like that, wonderful.
 
on the plus side having to do such huge changes often lets me mess around with new and better ways of doing things
gone from using something like 1000+ threads to about 4
 
hello
 
8:04 AM
1000+ threads?!
FOR WHAT
 
morning all
 
mornin @wadry
 
@RoelvanUden eh ... is there ever any point in having that many threads?
i mean ... unless you have 1000 core cpu, you can't run them all at once, so why create them?
 
@wadry I can imagine a web server that blocks threads.... which is stupid.
 
I want to download a linux iso (debian), but I found like 3 dvd images
 
8:05 AM
@RoelvanUden threads or async requests?
 
@wadry threads, y'know, how everyone that doesn't use async/await writes web applications
 
I can see a lot of async stuff ... but threads!!
@RoelvanUden lol fair enough
 
@BadroNiaimi pick the correct one
@wadry tbh i write web apps without async/await
 
not a web app
 
creating a thread doesn't mean having a cpu for it having many threads in program that mean you will spend more time in cpu
 
8:07 AM
it was about preventing blocking
 
@RoelvanUden i prefer to use them ... did some benchmarking, it makes a huge difference to scaleability
 
i had to proccess a lot of data within time limits and had to write it to a database in real time
 
@wadry Of course it does. Not blocking threads makes way better use of resources. It's just that our web server doesn't support async/await.. or .NET 4.5
(YES IT IS OLD)
 
@BadroNiaimi yeh but why create more threads than you can possibly ever run? surely you'd be better of creating a queue and dropping future work in to that then pick up queue items on a reasonable number of threads
 
what do you think?
 
8:08 AM
now i have everything running via async consumer loops and have optimised the shit out of my SQL
 
@BadroNiaimi What computer architecture do you have?
 
amd 64
 
@RoelvanUden fair enough ... I've been using async for so long now I just assume everything has it ... even though I use unity every day and hate it for exactly that reason lol
 
@AlexL risk management as in investment risk?
 
@BadroNiaimi then get dvd1 OR a netinst if you got internet access when installing
@wadry Honestly everything should have it. .NET4 support is dropped after all.
 
8:10 AM
I have some programs that create over 500 threads, I agree the CPU will get saturated for couple of seconds or minutes but the response time that enhance the response time
 
@BadroNiaimi I bet you could increase performance further by reducing that number of threads
 
There is never a good reason to create 500 threads. You should use a maximum of n cores threads as worker threads, and use iocp for anything else.
 
@RoelvanUden thank you, this is what I have done but I just want to be sure ;)
@wadry no way, the response time use to be over 3 mins but now 60s
 
@RoelvanUden unless you run on a massive iaas vm with 500 logical cores :)
 
@TomW then n is 500
 
8:12 AM
there's literally no reason to just "create 500 threads to do shit" ... @RoelvanUden's point about web services though, without async and no means to not create a thread ... yeh fair enough
 
@BadroNiaimi it can go down further then, if you just stop wasting resources
 
@RoelvanUden responding to the first sentence, and being facetious
 
@TomW ok that's reasonable (but you are very much an exception to the rule)
 
@TomW pft you.
 
lol
 
8:13 AM
Guys, I don't feel like programming today.
 
how do you think it will be possible to process over a million instruction in during an acceptable time
 
@BadroNiaimi Using your resources wisely. Exceeding the logical cores you have at your disposal just increases memory consumption and CPU cycles wasted on context switching. If you're doing asynchronous work, hand it off to the OS and let it signal back and schedule the continuation on one of the n threads at your disposal.
 
what do you think that Prallel class use as strategy
 
Parallel isn't optimal either. It's pretty good but optimizing your strategy for the computer you're doing work on is absolutely going to outshine it by miles.
 
well, my boss won't be happy to wait the program 4 mins to finish the job
he would say it my fault lol
 
8:16 AM
Goddamnit read what I said already, if you USE YOUR RESOURCES PROPERLY you can get work DONE FASTER WITH N THREADS than some arbitrary high number like 500.
You're not using them properly.
Then again why do I care to elaborate. I'm gonna write some funky code.
 
You get the highest performance when all the CPUs instruction pipelines are full. You can't fill them any faster using many threads than you can with 2N threads
 
2N? Hyperthreading? Those appear as logical cores.
 
@RoelvanUden Go to the beach, then.
 
@RoelvanUden ah sorry, that metric assumes physical cores
 
aha :0
 
8:19 AM
I tried different ways to use my resource wisely but no way to reduce the response much time without threads
 
You didn't use the right way, sorry to break it to you. But don't feel bad, this is complex matter to get right. If you and your boss are happy at smacking 500 threads at a solution, that's fine.
 
@BadroNiaimi you are wrong. The people here know what they're talking about and it's not up to other people to teach you. Go read up on async/await and why it's better most of the time
 
I read enough, and I have enough experience to see the different, I know it not good to create such as number of threads, but sometimes there isn't another way to accomplish the job.
 
If you have a specific repro that shows that many threads are better than async I'd love to see it
 
I'm working on a project for my company, I have what you asking for, but I can't show you because it confidential :(
but I can tell you the topic
 
8:24 AM
Well then surely the situation can be reproduced with a minimal example
 
I'm creating now something like compiler
sure
 
@Squiggle as you are an old fucking man, can you please explain what the hell that is
 
If you've read enough material on this, you should know you can leave asynchronous work up to the OS to signal your app back, which you can then schedule onto one of the worker threads for processing. You should also be aware that context switching takes time, and the optimal number of worker threads equals the number of logical cores. Going beyond that is always worse for performance (except perhaps n+1 when using 1 for scheduling and signal handling).
 
You probably were being born around the time this came out so you may have no idea either.
 
@Sippy I know he was meant to be 'the world's first computer generated celebrity' or something but was actually a guy in a rubber mask
 
8:28 AM
@Squiggle I assume there's only one answer to that :)
Got the first ticket though
but it's just the shop clerk that has selected the wrong customer when performing the transaction. Don't think that's a situation I can avoid.
 
@TomW That's showbusiness
 
why this project is not opening in VS ?
 
Because it's not a VS solution?
 
still, it should open in VS
how else I can work with it
not going back to PHP !
 
Too bad, they are using PHP tooling for their pipeline.
 
8:31 AM
R
I
 
So either you have to convert it, or adhere to it.
 
P
dammit roel
 
CCCCCCCOMBO BREAKER
 
fite me
 
@TomW Yes, well Futures day trading
 
8:32 AM
Round 1, fite
Roel uses terrifying scream
 
@AlexL cool. Buddy of mine works for FIS, doing something like that I think
 
Sippy uses Harden
3
 
@RoelvanUden convert it to PHP ? can I automate it somehow ? maybe using unit testing
 
Roel runs away terrified due to Sippys harden
@Mathematics I don't follow.
 
@TomW FIS ? First Insect Shooter ?
@RoelvanUden I am not sure how can I run that solution in VS, as I don't want to run it in PHP
 
8:34 AM
You can't. Give up.
Or convert it.
Which essentially means you rewrite the goddamn thing.
 
convert, but how
 
Honestly only .NET languages have VS solutions. Everyone else doesn't give a fuck
40 secs ago, by Roel van Uden
Which essentially means you rewrite the goddamn thing.
 
I see no PHP there its all HTML, Less and JS
 
That means I can run it in VS ?
 
@AlexL It uses composer (getcomposer.org)
 
8:37 AM
> I have some oranges, why won't my car run? I gave it lots so I can't see what the problem would be
 
Regardless of what it uses, can I use VS to open it, somehow
@TomW Oranges can't run car... you need sugary water for that...
 
Why? VS is a POS when it comes to web content ANYWAY.
Use something sane.
Like VSCode if you must keep using some kind of VS-like product.
 
@RoelvanUden sugarcanes - should I use ?
 
This is going nowhere.
 
when I open index.html
I get this,

<% if (ENV === 'dev') { %> <% } %>
 
8:39 AM
@RoelvanUden yeah but doesnt use any PHP packages its just pulling some JS
 
@AlexL Exactly it doesn't
 
Unless composer does something more than i can see
 
Doesn't matter. You try explaining that he needs a PHP pipeline to 'open solution in VS' when the goddamn composer thing weaves a ton of crap into dist. I honestly don't fucking know what the fuck composer is doing.
 
O shit
What time is it right now in UTC compared to Sweden and when is 1pm ?
is that 3 ?
 
@RoelvanUden Look either way, it's not using PHP
 
8:45 AM
Yeah yeah yeah just like how using a npm pipeline means you're not using js
 
@Froxer: not sure about utc, but I guess sweden is GMT+1
 
Figured it out @scheien since summertime now it is +2 so 1pm = 3 worldtimebuddy.com/utc-to-sweden-stockholm @RoelvanUden Why is VS garbage when it comes to Web Content ?
 
or gmt+2
yeah, that stupid summertime shit
 
omg
I have two water bottles on my desk and one of them has juice in it
Nigerian coworker just came over and noticed the difference and straight up asked me "Is that the colour of your wee?"
Almost fell off my chair.
 
9:00 AM
same timezone as we
 
LOOOL @Sippy WTF
 
I love that guy
He just walked away like "I did not mean to say that"
 
@Sippy Idk why but i found that stupidly funny. So he just comes up, goes is that the color of your piss ? And then just peaces out - HAHAHA
 
Lol
 
What, don't y'all keep clear plastic wee-bottles on your desks?
 
9:03 AM
The best part is that the juice in the bottle is pink
 
@Sippy You really should get that looked into.
 
What the fuck

Sippy likes threesomes

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HAHAHAHAHAHA
such boot diagnostics, very azure, wow
Was expecting event logs, usage graphs, anything, something
No, here's a screenshot of the server's current state.
Thanks Microsoft, that'll help me debug the RDP issue!
 
9:24 AM
Am I the only one that gets severely annoyed when a cover song severely alters the instrumental feeling but still tries to stick close to the original?
 
@RoelvanUden In my opinion if you don't severely alter the song and make it your own then there is no point in making a cover song.
 
I like it when a cover songs does something that is obviously different, like, going from an upbeat tune to a softer, slower more melodic version. But not stick to the near same pace, change the pitch of the singer(s) and replace instruments with different instruments/slightly change pitch of the instruments.
It is close yet not distinctly different, but not quite right either. It annoys me to no end.
 
I usually agree that minor changes are pointless, but I'd draw the line differently on what constitutes a minor change.
Keeping a similar style and tempo but changing a male vocal to a female one could be major enough for me, for instance.
 
@RoelvanUden That's because it is a shit cover.
Lol
 
Perhaps that is the better classification, "it's a shit cover"
 
9:36 AM
or a clowner
 
Lemme hear it
 
Which song is it @RoelvanUden?
 
Then again, when Bauhaus covered Ziggy Stardust in 1982, they attempted, according to interviews, to purposefully be as close to the original possible. It still came out pretty good.
 
The first thing I thought about is the movie rockstar, where the singerdude gets totally annoyed when his guitarist does some extraordinary shit in a solo.
 
@AvnerShahar-Kashtan You old, man.
 
9:38 AM
@Sippy Hey, I was three when it came out.
 
You still old.
 
Old people rock though.
 
Not of all them.
 
@scheien Japanese pop cover of a Japanese pop song. Do you still want it? :p
 
9:38 AM
Generally they do.
@RoelvanUden Nope.
 
@RoelvanUden: I guess that would be out of my comfort zone, but do share if you want to
 
Then the cover I get annoyed by play.spotify.com/artist/6EFvEvLElgRxRXg0Co2ttC
(Obviously titled 'Crossing Field')
 
also worst cover of rolling star i have ever heard
 
> The fuck is she wearing? Bitch looks like a damn lamp
 
and only my rail gun, is there no song she can't butcher?
 
9:50 AM
@AlexL Try Aimo.. it's.. uhm.. wrong too. But thank you for confirming! :D
@Sippy wat
 
One of the comments on that video lol
 
@Mathematics wat?
 
@AlexL Oh dear that one is also getting on my nerves quite a bit
 
@Sippy what did @RoelvanUden post now?
 
I get the artistic freedom and their own inspiration and all that.. but quite a few of the songs annoy me. I may need some getting used to the style..
 
9:59 AM
Hmm... Can someonne explain Liskov substitution principle so that even a noob understands it ?
 
@Froxer you what now?
 
The L in SOLID.
It confuses me
 
I have been going through SOLID @ that URL @Sippy
But I didnt grasp the L easily as i did with the S & O
 
I'm pretty sure L is enforced by the language if you're using C#
Interfaces and such
 
10:04 AM
I was hoping for someonne to put me back on my feet in this room instead of the authors in that article.
 
You can't physically choose not to implement a method of the base type
 
I just read the german wikipedia article about that principle
 
but you can use new keyword to overrule the implementation of derived methods, which is kinda nasty.
 
What did you make out of it @SteffenWinkler
 
@Squiggle wat
 
10:05 AM
Codewars war = new Codewars();
 
@Froxer as far as I understand it, it just means that if you've a Program that uses objects of Type ABC, and you've a type public class DEF:ABC the program should be able to use objects of that type as well without running into problems
 
ah, sorry - hiding the base implementation of a method when deriving from *non-*abstract classes. msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/435f1dw2.aspx
 
My C# lecturer is odd. He's very much against var, but have no problem using implicit typing in lambdas ...
 
@WilliamMariager does he explain why he's against such things?
 
@Froxer You can ignore that article, y'know.
 
10:08 AM
or just because "it feels wrong because I've spent too long using Java"
 
in the german article an example is given: You've a class `grahic elements` that is inherited by `ellipse` it is then argued that a circle could inherit from `ellipse` because, in geometry, a circle is an ellipse.

Inside the program however, that would not work, as an ellipse has manipulateable half-axis while a circle only has one manipulateable half-axe, thus circle must inherit directly from graphic elements
 
@Squiggle He thinks it reduces readability. Like not knowing the type. I don't agree, but I see what he's saying.
It's just peculiar since using implicit types in lambdas comes with the exact same problem as using var.
 
@WilliamMariager what do you mean by implicit typing?
 
@WilliamMariager He's right, if he uses notepad.exe to write code.
 
in any case I'm not particulary fond of var for the same reason
 
10:10 AM
it's all mitigated with the right tooling.
 
@SteffenWinkler (number) => { /* ... */} vs (int number) => { /* ... */ }
 
wait. That's possible?
all these years...
 
@Squiggle Yeah, it seems to be the defacto reason. We aren't supposed to rely on IDE's, but it's a very unrealistic situation.
 
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
 
@SteffenWinkler You learn something know every day. ;)
 
10:11 AM
I won't take anyone seriously that says "Yeah don't use good tools to write code". It feels like the equivalent of "Hey go build a house, but I won't want you to rely on hammers, nails, or other tools. Good luck!"
 
yes, yes indeed
 
@RoelvanUden Or use this old flint axe to chop a tree. :P
 
That's like saying a carpenter must be able to build a table using her bare hands before she's allowed to master the use of a saw.
 
Yeah~
 
Tooling is so important in programming.
 
10:14 AM
Heh, next he'll ask us not to use refactor tools, but force us to do everything manually. ;)
 
but var isn't a good tool...
it's deceiving
 
@SteffenWinkler the concerns around using var are mitigated by decent tooling.
 
and combined with Lambda or Linq statements it makes it nearly impossible to figure out what datatype is used where
 
@WilliamMariager lecturers are lecturers because they couldn't get a real job
 
@SteffenWinkler Sure it is. It makes it easier to refactor code and cuts down on the WET.
 
10:15 AM
@Squiggle define tooling
@WilliamMariager define WET
 
@SteffenWinkler Write Everything Twice
 
@TomW I don't agree on that. There are plenty of lecturers that do that because they want to.
 
@SteffenWinkler "a context-aware IDE"?
 
@RoelvanUden yeah, I know, just being as fatuous as this lecturer is to make a point
 
Yeah...
 
10:16 AM
@Squiggle what's that supposed to be?
 
@SteffenWinkler As in Dictionary<int, List<string>> buckets = new Dictionary<int, List<string>>();
 
@SteffenWinkler it's a development environment that's aware of my ass
 
@Squiggle entire planets are aware of your arse, mate.
(mainly gas planets)
 
Space Pants
 
@WilliamMariager nah, you can replace that with a var just fine. I've problems with lines were the other side doesn't hold a new but a statement that doesn't make it immediately obvious what the returning type is
 
10:19 AM
Usually the type isn't important though. You aren't reading that line of code in a vacuum. You have context.
 
where I've to hover over 3 or more different variables or methods to figure out what is going on there
 
If the next line is an iteration, you know it's at least an IEnumerable. If it prints it, the type doesn't matter anyways.
 
when I'm fixing a bug the code is very much important
 
I don't care if I don't know the type. When I write a dot, or hover over, I'll see everything it can do. No need to clutter my screen permanently with data I only need on certain occasions.
 
@WilliamMariager does he actually know he's the only person actually using the language who thinks that and believes he knows better, or completely oblivious?
 
10:19 AM
@WilliamMariager no. It could be an IQueryable, or just about anything that has an Item[] property.
let's phrase it this way, as all of you seem to never have done this: If you ever encounter code that is older than 3 years and are tasked with fixing a bug in there. You'll curse at EVERY var that is in there.
 
@SteffenWinkler you have quite weird opinions about a lot of things
2
 
I get that a lot @TomW
Meanwhile I think y'all are friggin dense ;) [for not sharing my opinion]
I do agree that var makes it easier to write code and faster. But it also caries problems with it that one needs to be aware of.
 
What ?
 
All the issues I've seen people have with var, are all setup situations where they make var look as bad as possible. They aren't real situations you'll really run into. Having to fix 3 year old code might be bad, but I don't see how, since you have a full fledge IDE to help you out.
 
have you ever done a reverse engineering using power designer for C# classes?
 
10:24 AM
I've only ever reverse engineered x86 using IDAPro. I doubt it's applicable :P
 
I have done it couple of times for java classes and it works perfectly
 
@WilliamMariager I really hope for you to never encounter such code, but believe me, it exists.
 
Last time I reversed C# I used ... dotPeek from JetBrains.
 
but I don't know why it gives me an empty diagram now :/
 
Why is this solution not still OPENING in VS ???
 
10:27 AM
@WilliamMariager does dotPeek gives a class diagram using classes files as input
 
@BadroNiaimi I don't think so. But it makes a solution. Then you could just throw the classes in the UML designer in VS.
 
lol @ that error ... stackoverflow in data layer ... here's a random line of code not in the stack that I feel like pointing at ...
 
I generated the diagram class using VS it looking ugly
 
lol ... mine look pretty tidy now :)
 
@SteffenWinkler I routinely work on 3y+ old code and I have no issues with var. The biggest issue is that I don't know what most functions are supposed to do (y'know, naming is hard, and nobody adds documentation), and don't know the full scope of the project, but that's fine. It's not something cluttering without var would solve.
 
10:31 AM
@SteffenWinkler wow you rekt him
lol
 
@BadroNiaimi Easy to modify though. :P
 
@Sippy ah, finally someone appreciates that one :D
 
Lol
 
I like the two-way binding of the UML designer in Visual Studio. It really helped when designing OOP with the people in my group.
 
@WilliamMariager Ignore said lecturer, var is love, var is life.
 
10:32 AM
@RoelvanUden ah, documentation...overrated stuff ;)
 
yes, but still ugly comparing it with power designer one
 
your lecturer is a hipster.
He may not even know it.
 
@Sippy Oh I already did :P Just handed in a project filled with vars. ;)
 
roflmao
 
@Sippy in that case he'd use Java
 
10:32 AM
inb4 he downgrades you for it
No one uses Java, not even hipsters.
 
@Sippy As long as he doesn't fail me. ;)
 
@Sippy only hipsters use Java
 
@WilliamMariager First year?
 
@Sippy Aye.
 
10:41 AM
@WilliamMariager Lecturers shouldn't be telling first years that var is bad
That's not on maaaaaan.
 
Listen mn, just Shuttup
 
Yeah, I was a bit surprised he did it. I've heard lots of people don't like it, but coming from a lecturer was bad.
 
I would like to know why he thinks vars are bad
 
He wants code to be readable in a vacuum, no IDE no context. :P
 
and var is readable
if its not you are using it wrong
 
10:48 AM
@RoelvanUden What is the recommended resource of SOLID explanation (Still trying to grasp the L) @SteffenWinkler Thank you for the attempt. Your input in this room is greatly appreciated as i have a daily dose it :)
 
The question is whether lecturers should talk about stylistic choices in code.
I think they should.
Because it's important.
 
I dont think a lecturer should since it is opinionated.
Sure, he can bring it up, and show different styles
But he should not actively make choices for the students.
 
Even if it's not stylistic choices I agree with, talking about code style for first-year students makes them understand that coding styles and coding conventions aren't afterthoughts.
 
they need to at least drill in the basics
 
I'd rather have a project (or, in this case, an entire classroom) using a single unified style that I don't agree with, rather than a mish-mash of different styles, even if I agree with some.
 
10:50 AM
Yes, for sure. My C# Lecturers showed me both ways, and explained briefly pros and cons. But i still had a big ? in my head when to do what until a few days ago when i brought it up here and got it more clear.
 
Code style, and more importantly, consistency. I don't mind if someone has a different style than me, but for all that is good and just in this world, fucking stick to that fucking style you fuck.
 
:D @RoelvanUden
 
Too many recent graduates I've worked gave absolutely no thought to code style as a part of the profession, not a minor sideline.
 
@Froxer That's what I've been trying to say to the people I help out. I've told them they need to consider the good or bad with any style. It's the same with the underscore prefix for private members. Something some people do, but others don't. I'm not going to say what's right or wrong, I just want them to have an argument for whatever they chose.
 
for instance var i = m.r() is never acceptable in any high level language
 
10:51 AM
With better naming that would make sense.
 
yeah the naming part of style is the part that should be covered
 
Just like a lot of new coders that think that source control and project management are somehow minor implementation details around the real work, which is the code (or in many cases even worse, the algorithm).
Common with new coders fresh out of grad school who think they're doing pure research.
 
Why wouldnt var goodName = methodForLoadingAGridWithData(); be a good choice ?
 
@Froxer it is, but your naming convention is part of your style
 
I personally use Mini-Pascal
 
10:53 AM
and is the only real universal aspect
 
wait wtf
brainfuck: Looking at seas.gwu.edu/~hchoi/teaching/cs160d/pascal.pdf it is not at all how my grammar looks like.
 
@Froxer Haha, mini-pascal
 
@AlexL var t = m.r => t is fine though
(don't know if syntactically correct, prolly not)
 
Camel is what it is called
 
ur a camel
 
10:57 AM
I am using CAMEL !!!
#Confirmed
 
@Froxer brainfuck is a programming language fyi
So that sentence confused me.
 
weew, that is a messed up name
 
Lol
If you think the name is messed up go check out the language.
People have actually made things with it.
 
ok Proceeds on the adventure of checking the Programming language : BrainFuck out
 
its an apt name
 
10:59 AM
Your english isn't broken but it's funny to see how you punctuate in your head
 
++++++++++[>+++++++>++++++++++>+++>+<<<<-]
>++.>+.+++++++..+++.>++.<<+++++++++++++++.
>.+++.------.--------.>+.>.
 
your punctuation sucks xD
 
It really does.
 
See that was perfect
 
Thank you!
:)
 

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