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5:00 PM
No tax refund for Fizzy ;___;
I do owe the tax man £1.60 though. I expect them to kick the door down imminently.
 
DSM
So this question has a viable dupe target but none of the answers are the way I'd do it.
 
mmap schmmap
 
WHEN YOUR CODE WORKS. It's just one of the best feelings ever.
 
DSM
Have to take your word for that. :-(
 
@DSM ^ said the prefetcher to RAM
 
5:08 PM
@PM2Ring OMG
@user3561871 so that is the reason for reading LPTHW
 
@inspectorG4dget snrk
 
@Kevin I think it's the homework aspect that's bugging people
 
Could be.
 
and it's very basic
not a subtle bottleneck thing in a 500-line piece of code
rather something like "is there a switch-case in python" without OP knowing about switch-case
 
@Kevin and how is that a good match for codereview :D
 
5:14 PM
also, they lied in their edit
"I wrote this for homework" -> "I was showing my friend how to code"
I don't know about the timeline of edit vs hostility, but I can see why
doesn't actually show any effort, which is a must for CR
 
DSM
Could both be true. "I wrote this for homework [my friend's homework, which he paid me to do]"
 
It's functional code that OP wishes could be shorter. Code Review is about improving functional code, in some cases making it shorter.
Square peg, meet square hole.
 
@Kevin also, "don't migrate crap"
(s/migrate/suggest repost/)
I'm not arguing against it being on-topic for CR
I think it should be a downvoted post on CR;)
 
it is indeed better that this was posted to CR, there it wouldn't be offtopic, just despised :D
 
Also, this says Before referring a Stack Overflow user to Code Review, consider: Is it really off-topic for Stack Overflow? Just because a question is said to have "working code" and seems to be on-topic on Code Review, doesn't mean that it is automatically off-topic for Stack Overflow.
but we've already spent too much time on this, I think:)
 
5:25 PM
Of course you would have to seek again to the same position to write a changed byte value — which is a little more work than say mm[offset] += 1 — but updating multi-byte values is somewhat awkward either way. — martineau 1 min ago
this guy just can't admit defeat :d
 
@AnttiHaapala -1 because in the text you write "add 1 to byte at 12345678" but then in the code you write mm[12345679] += 1
 
With mmap you can write to slices? Do they have to be equivalently sized slices? Otherwise how does that work?
 
@user2357112 On the topic of unicode from the other day. Check this out
 
Anyone here familiar with RePast?
normally, I'd ask Snape, but he doesn't seem to be here at the moment
 
Signal the SnapeLight.
 
DSM
5:37 PM
Sorry.. at the time, repast didn't fit nicely into our needs, so we built our own rather than trying to hack our problem into its space.
 
[SnapeLight](@JRichardSnape) damn! that didn't quite work the way I hoped. @JRichardSnape, do you have a minute?
 
@idjaw oh this is awesome:D
the missus is impressed
 
@AndrasDeak your missus is a coder?... and a pythonista, to boot?! #jealous
 
neither, she's a mathematician who's damned to eternal suffering job involves a lot of C++ currently
 
DrSnape definitely sounds like the guy for that.
 
5:42 PM
crap, the strikeout makes my who's want to become whose, it's incorrect this way
 
DSM
Math girls are cool. And c++>=11 isn't so bad. So it sounds like you're doing well. :-)
 
I'm not complaining;) To the point that we got married last Friday.
6
 
congratulations!
 
thanks:)
 
congratulations!!
 
5:42 PM
+1
 
DSM
Pineapples for Andras and, er, Andra!
 
wouldn't the complement of Andras be Orras?
 
lol:D
actually, Andrea is the legit female version of my name here (unlike Andrea in Italian, which is male) #themoreyouknow
 
DSM
@inspectorG4dget: you're on kind of a roll today.
 
so, melon everybody
 
5:45 PM
@DSM well, it /is/ spring time... :P
 
Woo Apache Storm 1.0!
 
Hopefully they had a clear release.
I wouldn't want their success to be cloudy.
 
Nobody likes a turbulent release
 
Did the Internet thunder with the news of its release?
 
5:46 PM
I heard it was shocking
 
YOU'RE POKING MY HEART!
 
hail the new release!
 
@Ffisegydd IT'S SPWINKALIN.
 
NO IT'S DWIBBLING!
 
You huwt me. :(
 
5:48 PM
Good.
 
DSM
Okay, it's super-windy and now snowing outside. For reasons I've never fully understood I can't resist standing in the wind. Time to set my CV aside and go exploring!
Rhubarb for all.
 
@DSM you have to show that wind it can't push you around ;)
 
Oooooooooh you should share the DSMCV so we can belittle help you.
 
rbrb @DSM, enjoy
 
5:49 PM
@DSM haffun! Then please upload DSMCV
 
rbrb @DSM enjoy the springpocalypse
I think we are getting that soon
 
@Ffisegydd I could use some being made fun of...
 
Do it.
 
I thought we were getting spring soon, and then there was a couple days of snow.
 
5:50 PM
I've been rather happy with our spring so far. I'm hoping it stays around.
 
Autumn is my favourite time of the year
 
Except for the grass. Stupid grass, I cut you three days ago and now I have to cut you again.
(actually I don't hate it, good exercise, but still)
 
I need to buy a lawn mower this year
 
^ sounds a lot like my beard
 
5:51 PM
@inspectorG4dget Man, your CV is way fancier than mine. Did you make that template yourself? I really like it.
 
@inspectorG4dget would you like actual feedback?
 
@inspector kids bedtime - ping in the other room and I'll look when I can (this evening for sure)
 
@Morgan'Venti'Thrappuccino a friend helped me find that template (.docx - change the file extension on the link to download) several years ago. I've used it ever since. But it's not the easiest template to edit, so I've been meaning to tweak it for a while (I'll probably get around to it some time in the next few years)
@Ffisegydd I always appreciate feedback. Feedback = opportunity for improvement. Improvement = good
 
@inspectorG4dget if you tweak it enough, it will become latex;)
 
@inspectorG4dget Nice. I might play around with it a bit for my resume. Mine is super simple, just text, none of those fancy graphics or colors.
 
5:54 PM
@AndrasDeak that's actually what I want to ultimately do with the template
 
@inspectorG4dget okay. It's far too cluttered for my liking. There is far too much information there. If you have to put a column down one side just to get info in, then it's too much :P
 
wim
I see a lot of toy projects, academic stuff, and almost no industry experience
 
A lot of your boxes are missing the bottom border.
 
@Morgan'Venti'Thrappuccino The colors are for visual texture, to make the text easy on the eyes, and to demarcate everything for quick reading (I've been told HR people have undre 30 sec/cv)
 
Here I actually thought it was LateX. C'mon @inspectorG4dget you wrote LaTeX on your CV and you didn't write it in LaTeX? For shame
 
5:55 PM
@wim imagine that considering he's a PhD student.
 
wim
remove crap like PHP unless you actually want to write in PHP
 
@inspectorG4dget good!:D
 
wim
if you upload this to any job boards, it will get scraped and you WILL receive tonnes of emails from recruiters that match just on keywords
 
@Ffisegydd that's an issue with Chrome's viewer. You'll see the borders if you download the PDF
 
5:56 PM
And yeah I agree with wim there, you need to tailor it more unless you were happy to code in any of those fields.
 
this is my master CV. So I /will/ have to tailor it to each specific application
@wim good point. I was trying to say "I have experience with a lot of languages. I am therefore sufficiently nimble, which is an attractive quality in a new hire". Should I still remove PHP/Scheme/PROLOG/etc?
 
wim
yes, I had that once and regretted
 
just PHP ;)
 
wim
I have a lot of experience in C++ and made the mistake of mentioning it
 
ok. So shall it be
why was that a mistake?
 
6:00 PM
because he doesn't want to work in C++
 
wim
exactly
because now the signal to noise ratio on jobs stuff is so low , that I just send it all to spam
 
I put some of my previous work experience in that was in civil engineering (I don't regret doing it in this particular case FYI, it was worth it) but I still get emails now (a year later) saying "Hur dur. Do you want a civil engineering job?"
People just scrape the CV and don't read it. I explicitly said I wanted software jobs.
 
It doesn't matter what you "want to work in". Mention what you know. More is better. It's not like people see PHP on a CV and will only offer you a PHP job
The alternative is not mentioning the PHP job − that's even worse
 
@Carpetsmoker I absolutely disagree. If I see someone throwing keywords at a CV that have nothing to do with the job they're applying to? Just makes them look unprofessional/desperate.
Plus I've taken my CV down from everywhere I uploaded it to. The issue is that they will share it to other sites (as you've agreed to in their EULA) and so you still get emails from people "seeing your CV"
 
I cater every cv for the job I'm applying to
 
6:02 PM
@Ffisegydd No, it mentions what you did
If you used PHP, then you used PHP
 
Especially I've been involved more in the hiring process, I also realize what it is I do and do not want to see.
A long CV is....long
it sounds stupid...but you want to make that thing to the point
and relevant
 
Exactly.
 
wim
1 page is great
 
So, does nobody else finds the "procrastination: SO" part scary?
 
wim
2 pages maximum
no
 
6:04 PM
cool:)
 
I use the cover letter for that (and never modify my CV)
 
my contribution to SO actually lead to a couple of opportunities. So it wasn't a waste of time. :) Plus I met you crazy people.
 
yeah I keep forgetting that most of you people program for a living
 
wim
candidates with a few stackoverflow answers and even well written questions will perk my interest
also github profiles
 
Anyone know if there are any good ways to read backward in terms of characters through an encoded Unicode file in Python? I know there are encodings that support that, including UTF-8, UTF-16, and UTF-32, but I don't know of any options to do it in Python without implementing it yourself.
 
6:05 PM
I've got jobs going back to when I was 14. The only ones relevant to a data application are from 18-20 onwards though, so those are the only ones I put in.
 
wim
if I can look at your code beforehand that saves me a lot of time in an interview
 
that's some interesting feedback (and keep it coming). Thank you
 
We/SO should make a room for CV reviews. I know I could definitely use it.
We could call it SOCVR. ;)
 
haha
 
@wim: are you a recruiter?
 
wim
6:07 PM
no
 
@inspectorG4dget Recruiters looking at code :-)
 
I'm involved in the recruitment process at work (as I assume a few here are).
 
wim
but I'm often doing technical interviews for my company
 
ahh, I see
 
ahaha recruiters looking at code: ctrl-f: synergy, agile, OOP. No results.. WTF?
 
6:08 PM
@Morgan'Venti'Thrappuccino heh:D
 
@idjaw You forgot OOP
 
thanks :P
 
wim
I used to write my CV in latex and send out pdf
 
I do actually think it would be cool to have a place where one could discuss their resume, without having to worry about it being scraped by recruiters, et al.
 
wim
95% of recruiters ask you to send them a word version
 
6:09 PM
@wim That's because they want to redact it so the employer doesn't contact you outside of their process
 
@Morgan'Venti'Thrappuccino yeah...I agree. If this weren't so public, I would share more freely. But "bad" versions of my cv lying around the internet...nah.
 
(which will make them lose money)
 
wim
yes, i know
 
@wim what?! PDF literally has "portable" in the name
 
wim
I'm pointing out the fact that they don't know how to edit a pdf
that's the technical level of most of those guys
 
6:10 PM
@inspectorG4dget they want to edit it themselves to what they think is the best way for you to be attractive to the employer
 
I have a normal and "redacted" version after I've seen a few completely butcher the layout in an attempt to redact it
 
so they butcher it and change it to however they want and you never actually see that version that gets sent
 
Apr 3 at 18:33, by Ffisegydd
I once refused to apply to a job because they wouldn't accept a CV in PDF, and instead wanted it in Word.
And a few messages later :P
Apr 3 at 18:34, by Ffisegydd
Doesn't matter too much if you end up going through an agency - I once applied to a job and found in the interview that the agent had taken my F***ING BEAUTIFUL LATEX PDF CV and copied/pasted into Word, then messed up some of the info.
 
recruiters! yam YEAH!
 
wim
A lot of recruiters are basically professional spammers
It helps to find a good recruiter who knows tech
 
6:11 PM
This is one of the reason I'm not using recruiters in my on-going jobhunt ;-) It took me over a year to get rid of the last assholes (they once phoned me at 10pm, wtf?)
 
wim
recommendations from colleagues etc
 
I've worked with one or two good recruiters, and the internal ones I know at FizzyCorp are good.
 
wim
good recruiters are few and far between, but the ones who are good can help you a lot
 
you've probably all read it, but still
 
6:12 PM
I think there's a big difference between agencies and internal recruiters a lot of the time.
 
yes
 
wim
they can aggressively negotiate your salary on your behalf
 
I take internal recruiters more seriously than agency recruiters
 
wim
and it's in their interest to get you a good salary because their fee is propoprtional to that
 
that is also very true
 
6:13 PM
Plus they're more assertive than the average programmer ;-)
 
my latest job was completely by chance through a recruiter that contacted me. They were actually really good and even let me send over my own CV. Understood all the tech I was talking about. Was a rare experience. But it worked out great. Love this place.
 
@Carpetsmoker really?! You should see my code - asserts all over the place
 
@inspectorG4dget oh while we're on feedback, at the top you've got the social media symbols and then @inspectorG4dget, right? I know what that means but FizzyGirl didn't and was really confused.
 
And I think I agree, it's not that obvious what those symbols mean unless you know "Oh this is the Python symbol, he must do some stuff on PyPI"
 
6:15 PM
@Morgan'Venti'Thrappuccino -1 not enough Thrappuccino
 
-1 Not enough red circles.
 
needs a link to your SO chat logs
 
Hey look a phone number!
 
wim
I like that one
 
What's the time in UTC when it's 3am there?
 
6:16 PM
@Antti Congrats, you're in the newsletter stackoverflow.com/questions/36548518/…
 
you know what I like about this? A Python Developer with an arts degree (not kidding)
 
@Morgan'Venti'Thrappuccino You can leave education off there.
 
lol:D
 
Depends on the education front, some places really want graduates for some reason.
 
that is true. It's a case-by-case basis
 
6:17 PM
@idjaw We seem to have reached an impasse.
 
@Ffisegydd would <person looking to hire me> know what those symbols mean?
 
@QuestionC I just noticed that hehe :)
 
Go STEM or go home.
I guess it doesn't hurt.
 
@inspectorG4dget maybe? It's a maybe though. Not everyone will know the SO symbol. Not everyone will know Octocat. A lot of people won't know the Python symbol.
 
STEMp out illiteracy :P
 
6:18 PM
They may know what Github is, but not what the symbol is.
etc
 
@Ffisegydd would you recommend I replace the logos with the names themselves?
 
@idjaw I uh, don't actually have a degree. :P
 
even better
 
I think on mine I had the names themselves.
 
@Morgan'Venti'Thrappuccino If you have a cool 1-liner program, you can include that on your resume. Like something that outputs a neat curve or fractal.
 
6:19 PM
..but again...case-by-case...blah blah some companies care...blah blah
 
@QuestionC Ooo, that's a really good idea.
 
A good friend of mine did that and it seems to have worked out well for him.
 
I had pondered for a while, writing a simple one-liner in the margin that said "the margin is too small to fit <this awesome program>"
 
I should update my CV...
 
@Ffisegydd Oops. :P Apparently I should've scrubbed my resume first.
 
6:22 PM
@Ffisegydd Changes Manager at FizzyCorp to CEO, Done updated
 
Yeah when I was getting feedback from people last year I had a redacted version.
 
That would've been smart, but I am not a smart man.
Hopefully a link to an image is too much work for anything automated.
 
Mar 19 '15 at 16:55, by Bhargav Rao
@Ffisegydd One more doubt, Is your ph no XXXXXX only in the copy you uploaded or is that some code which I don't understand.
 
@WayneWerner yeah they need to be of equal length
@BhargavRao which newsletter
 
@AndrasDeak Congrats
@AnttiHaapala Stack Overflow News letter
 
6:29 PM
@AnttiHaapala this one?
 
what's that
 
@BhargavRao thank you!:)
 
@BhargavRao: namaskaramundi (translation: cbg)
 
@inspectorG4dget Wait, Isn't it Vanakkam? I've mugged that :/
 
@BhargavRao @AndrasDeak TIL :D
 
6:31 PM
@AnttiHaapala 5 questions per week! It's like the best of SO posts
 
@BhargavRao I was trying to Telugu it up for you :P (yes, your Tamil is correct)
 
@BhargavRao I believe that stackoverflow is going down really
 
@inspectorG4dget I still need to learn Telugu, Thanks to Antti, I am learning Finnish :P
 
@BhargavRao stackoverflow.com/questions/36477542/… this is even hotter
 
@AnttiHaapala Yeah, That's true. The best of teh questions have already been asked :/
 
6:32 PM
and basically it is UB.
 
+116 in less than a week
small tags suck
 
@BhargavRao So what Indian language do you speak?
 
@AndrasDeak I had got +101 in a day here stackoverflow.com/questions/34287893/…
@inspectorG4dget Kannada (only one, learning Hindi)
 
Blergh I need to find a way of re-writing my technical experience to be better suited.
 
FizzBuzz daily at FizzyCorp - That's Doc Fizzy for you
 
6:35 PM
@BhargavRao TIL :P
 
@inspectorG4dget Indian English :D
 
I asked that question for winterbash
 
@BhargavRao ahh! duly noted
@AnttiHaapala Vokkay saar!
 
Dec 1 '15 at 14:40, by Bhargav Rao
Discovered something nice in Python3.5. (Winter bash question ready :P )
I got nearly 6 hats for that
@AnttiHaapala I expected you to say Kannada Canada :/
 
6:39 PM
Indian English - the language of Canada
 
bwahahaha
 
@BhargavRao thanks, that's really encouraging:P
 
@AndrasDeak Yep, you can try too! 100 in a day won't be tough :/
 
@BhargavRao I have 1 notch along Legendary so far:D
 
Canadian alphabet seems harder than frikking Hanzi :D
 
6:49 PM
@AndrasDeak Soon you'll be nearer! All the best
 
earned at least 200 reputation on 63 days
 
@BhargavRao hah, thanks:D
 
(not yet even) halfway there
 
I should learn a mainstream language and FGITW with the best of them
 
This Monday, I have a day off; yet to decide what to do
 
6:51 PM
Okay CV re-written. Thanks for the inspiration :P though I don't plan on using it any time soon.
 
Whoohoo, PyCON registration confirmed.
 
@MartijnPieters US or UK?
 
@MartijnPieters Congrats and All the best
 
@MartijnPieters so lucky! I wish I was going...
 
I can't find the 2016 UK page :/
 
6:57 PM
This is how I'm getting to PyCon: pythononrails.us
 
@Ffisegydd US.
We'll be presenting a poster session.
 
@davidism That is brilliant.
 
@MartijnPieters will there be a live game of pass the shuriken?
 
wim
@MartijnPieters I will be there too. It will be great to meet you
I will go to the EuroPython in Spain this year aswell
 

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