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@RyanM I wonder how many I've cast.
01:36
@mickmackusa why was that reopened in the first place?
@oguzismail I didn't know that it was ever closed.
But I do know that there is some visible/historic comradery between RavinderSingh13, anubhava, and thefourthbird. They have undone good closures in pages in the past.
I see this as a problem, but what am I going to do about it. I have already voiced my opinion to anubhava, but he just defends his actions with a general "well, I disagree".
Yeah. I flagged a few times but all in vain
My suspicion is that these users are less interested in improving SO and more interested in pursuing JonSkeet and the absolutely worthless 1M rep eschelon.
I agree
I suppose if I wrote a book about regex, and posted this in my profile, then it could only help my book sales if I also had a ridiculous amount of regex-points and rep points.
Alternatively, doing the thankless job of curating great content will do nothing to boost credibility.
This is why I am burnt out. There are super high frequency users that are actively interfering with good content curation.
I find myself caring less about SO in the last couple of weeks and focusing on my niche community -- at least there I can make an impact on positive change.
02:03
@mickmackusa sounds better than wasting time on a lost cause
@oguzismail This truth pains me after I have invested thousands of hours in SO. I am using my left hand to stop my right hand from starring your comment.
02:20
@mickmackusa Regex seems to be causing quite some 'grief' of late. There was that Meta post about Wiktor and his 'over-zealous' use of the dupe hammer; then there's this one, and your issues with the 'other way'. I don't do regex, so I can't really comment from an SME perspective ...
... however, that post you linked looks like a very strong dupe candidate for the "IBAN Canonical" you mentioned. Is it fair to close as a dupe, though, when that target doesn't use (or even mention) regex, but the question specifically asks for a regex? I don't feel that closing as "unclear" is right, but I feel semi-inclined to CV on the dupe.
@eyllanesc Has that been flagged and edited in the grace period? I can see no history other that the post itself.
@AdrianMole I don't understand you, could you explain me better
@eyllanesc OK. You posted a reflag request, suggesting (to me, anyway) that it had been flagged and cleared previously. But I was happy to add my NAA flag to it, anyway.
@AdrianMole A quick google will show that there are about 5 different very related pages on SO for this task. I only linked to one.
Choosing the "best" one requires the OP to provide clarity first.
You tipped my balance - I added the third CV as a dupe (but that doesn't show in the UI, of course).
@eyllanesc We don't do NAA and VLQ flag request in here unless you're unable to have an active flag on the post. It does very little good, and some harm (flagger is unable to review in review queue), to have multiple NAA or VLQ flags. So, the expectation was that you had raised a flag, but the flag had been invalidated by someone having edited the post. Given that there is no record of an edit, the assumption was that you raised an VLQ flag and the OP edited during the grace period.
02:32
As I said on the page being discussed, if the old canons are not comprehensive enough, or need to be updated, then the ideal resolution would be to improve the canons instead of spraying SO with 30 individual pages.
I was also swayed by the fact that the first dupe closure was by a user who "knows their stuff!" ;)
... but we may be entering forbidden waters, for this room, so best if we move on ...
@Makyen I do not understand what you mean, that "answer" makes a request for them to sell a possible code and for me it is clearly not a valid answer for what it marks as NAA
@eyllanesc See this point of the FAQ about NAA and VLQ flags.
@eyllanesc Yes, but a single NAA flag puts the post into the review queue. More NAA flags don't do all that much. Each additional NAA flag increases the number of "looks OK" responses needed in the review queue to remove it without deleting it, and, if the post is not acted upon from review, tend to get the post handled a bit sooner by moderators.
Overall, SOCVR's policy is that we don't permit flagging requests for VLQ or NAA, unless you are unable to put an active flag on the post. That can happen if A) you've previously flagged with VLQ or NAA and your prior flag is no longer active (retracted, invalidated, or handled), or B) you're out of flags.
@bad_coder mmm, I understand the justification but then why do you provide the ability to make requests with the tools that you provide (userscripts)? Wouldn't it be nice if those tools offered some warning?
02:43
Feature Request: Downvotes on answers during reviews should: (a) be free; and (b) not count as part of one's daily vote quota. I'd complete my LA daily tasks a lot more quickly, then. :-)
@Makyen I am guided by the tools that the room provides because they facilitate the work so perhaps it is good that the userscript that is used to make requests launches some warning for that type of case.
@eyllanesc Because it's non-trivial for the script to determine if you've already flagged and that your flag has been retracted. In order to get that information from the SE API, we would have to go through the OAuth2 flow and obtain a token from your authorization for the script to act as you, at least to get private information like your votes. I'd have to check, but that information might not be available unless there was the authorization for write access, which is even further authorization.
@Makyen I do not say something that prevents sending but something simpler, for example that when that option of the combobox is selected then a window is displayed indicating something like: "Analyze well if you want to send this request since it is only valid in specific cases" and then put a link to the docs that they provided me. Since the use of "NAA" in this room must be exceptional. Then any user will read the docs and decide.
03:01
@eyllanesc really don't know. I linked the FAQ because it seems relevant. (The reasoning there does make some sense and seems to apply to this case).
 
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07:22
How is the "belongs on another site" flag handled? Is it reviewed by community or by mods?
@kesarling See What is migration and how does it work?: "If you don't have the privilege to cast close votes, you may flag to migrate it just as you would cast a recommend closure flag. This would put the question into a queue for users with enough reputation to review and possibly cast votes." It's handled like a normal flag for closure.
@JeanneDark Thanks! Because I feel that flag need a little touch
07:40
This answer is an exact copy paste of part of this page, with attribution. Given the target page has "All rights reserved @trytoprogram.com" at the bottom, and OP doesn't appear to be affiliated with them, what is the appropriate action?
I thought there was a meta question covering this but I can't find it...
From Brad Larson's answer: "It is not up to Stack Overflow moderators to enforce the terms and conditions of another site."
Thanks
07:54
I wonder if the massage chair spam will stay around long enough so an FP or LA reviewer can choose "No action needed" ;)
 
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11:02
@mck can you explain why you think that this is not reproducible or caused by a typo?
@HovercraftFullOfEels That dupe target is also a mess... it's basically "prevent duplicates and also any numbers that aren't between 10 and 100"
Ideally they'd both be dupes of something else.
If findbugs reports a possible bug, but the code is - as far as OP knows - working correctly, is this on-topic for SO?
If yes: does this already count as "debugging"?
11:18
@RyanM: you're right, bad duplicate, but there are so darn many, and perhaps I didn't choose the best one to close it with, but this question definitely needs to go.
 
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17:53
Damn we are effective today. :D
18:42
@TylerH look what I found in the review queue :D
18:52
@Turing85 they posted the same image twice, under a different URL x)
19:06
@HovercraftFullOfEels Stoned Spam?
 
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@Turing85 yes you are right, it's a reason to downvote, shouldn't have added it to the CV-pls
@Vickel I am also not keen on the "needs debugging"-part. As far as I can see, there is not code, hence nothing to debug. I went with needs focus.
@Turing85 it's one of this gimme the codez questions, and yes, needs focus seems to fit best
21:06
@rene can you move this message of mine to /dev/null? OP has edited their question and I retracted my vote.
@Vickel in these cases the surest bet is finding a duplicate.
@bad_coder I am slightly confused. Is this question caused by a typo or is it a duplicate?
21:25
@Turing85 1 Minute to close, 1 min 30 sec to deletion. x)
@desertnaut flip the arrow. :)
@KevinM.Mansour :)
@Turing85 it's both and neither. OP asked about libraries, but made a mistake using a standard library class. I usually go through the effort of giving both explanations in the comments, fortunately this time 2 other users did that for me. Needed to be closed anyway.
@Turing85 twas' very asap indeed.
@Turing85 → 1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, by request
@Makyen thanks
 
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22:57
@desertnaut - I'll try to remember for the next one - thanks!
23:27
sdc alive
@cigien plz send teh coffee
Is this question another execute random code from internet like was recently posted on meta?
23:58
@bad_coder I decoded the code and posted it as an answer. I can't tell if it's malevolent or not...

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