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00:54
@KenWhite Isn't encrypting a file a focused task? I might be missing something, though, since I'm not at all familiar with what authenticated encryption is.
 
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02:11
@RyanM I need a code is not a question, and there are two sentences in the post body, one of which is a requirements statement. Not sure how that's a focused question. It could probably be "needs details or clarity* as well.
Or even seeking recommendations. Take your pick!
 
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04:12
@KenWhite Most questions on Stack Overflow are asking for code, whether it's code to horizontally center an element, code to merge two dictionaries, or saying "I need a regex that will...". The question is whether what they're asking to do is clear and focused. Here is the same question, but for a byte array instead of a file. Is that also unclear or unfocused?
@RyanM I'm not going to debate whether Plz givez me teh codez questions. IMO, the post I cv-pls'd should be closed. I can find posts that are the equivalent of Please give me the code for a website like Facebook, which according to what you wrote are clear and focused. I disagree.
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@KenWhite That's...not remotely what I said. I think we can all agree that that hypothetical would not be "focused": it would require explaining how to do multiple unrelated things. Anyway, I think we should probably agree to disagree on this particular post.
04:27
@RyanM Sounds fair to me. :-)
04:44
@TylerH Okay.Fair enough.
Sorry - my last cv-pls is probably against the rules. Saw it was active 25 days ago, but just realise it might just have been my edit and wasn't NATO. RO feel free to /dev/null
1 message moved to SOCVR /dev/null, per notification from requester
07:39
@DaImTo I don't think this one is ot.
07:53
I've just spotted a high-rep user has given an answer with the code snapshotted as an image. I assume I can't flag as NAA - is this something that I could flag as custom mod?
08:29
@halfer can't you flag as VLQ?
08:42
I was installed two user scripts. 1) cv-pls request generator 2) hide roomba questions on delete votes moderation tool. I noticed today, both the user scripts are not working. Is there any problem? Can someone please share me the links to those scripts to install again?
@AmitJoshi Are they here?
08:55
@AmitJoshi To me, sometimes the userscript manager (in my case TamperMonkey) crashes completely and needs a restart. Go to the extensions and make sure it's on
@Tomerikoo It was on. I uninstalled and installed it again. Installed *-pls Request Generator script. But it is not taking effect. I do not see the UI changes yet. I am trying to figure out. Is that anything to do with latest chrome updates? I see this warning at the top of tempormonkey settings page: "Limited runtime host permissions might break some Tampermonkey features like script update, GM_xmlhttpRequest and others!"
I've noticed the new UI in the review history. I find some information in there to be somewhat redundant. Is that due to a reputation thing? Does the pink stuff have other users after some reputation threshold? Do the red lines ever contain something other than the name of the queue?
(Also.. the new UI is incompatible with rene's superscript :'( Not to be confused with rene's superscript not being compatible with the new UI! :-)
09:37
@JeanneDark Thanks; that gave me the first one. I do not see the second one there. Roomba Forecaster is not what I am looking for. I am looking for one which add check box on moderation tools page above delete vote section which hides roomba questions.
I guess I got both of them to work. Thanks @JeanneDark and @Tomerikoo
What does it mean, when a close by review is invalidated?
the task got removed, for example if a question gets closed out of the review queue
@user692942 I think this covers all bases: meta.stackexchange.com/a/190581/158100
I posted two request this morning because the OP deleted their question to then re-post the same question again. Before they deleted the question though they edited it to add a MCVE then deleted it. I tried to get it re-opened but in the meantime they've added a duplicate question.
What's the best approach?
so there is only one valid question visible now that is answerable?
And those deleted questions didn't have answers, right?
10:44
Fair enough.
10:56
Any idea how to close a question as a duplicate on another SO site? stackoverflow.com/q/67532000/1841839 Check comment someone posted a decent duplicate.
@DaImTo Check my suggested duplicate
@user692942 I'm not sure what I did wrong there but I only tried to get some more context before I could give advice. If my interrogation came across as rude or unpleasant I apologize.
11:24
@rene sorry, didn't mean to be rude. You made a good point I was just agreeing.
@user692942 rene isn't saying that you were rude, btw. ;)
@user692942 okay, glad that worked out then, for both of us ;) All is good.
Does this question need debugging details? More details provided in OP's NAA'ish self-answer.
@JeanneDark Eh, probably OP doesn't know that most unix tools that require password don't print anything.
Thanks
!!/coffee @Dharman
13:43
!!/coffee Dharman
@Shree brews a cup of Americano for @Dharman
@Espresso ^
!!/coffee Shree
@Espresso brews a cup of Cappuccino for @Shree
@IanCampbell FYI the downvotes on the CW answers (and non-CW ans) did not get reversed by the script
I flagged the Q for mods due to rollbacks and mentioned that as well in the flag
Am I allowed to ask for duplicate closure if another gold-hammer reopened after I used my hammer?
No, you aren't
@Dharman No, you're involved in that case: "if you've close-voted a question and that vote was the vote, or one of the votes, which caused the question to be closed, you may not post a cv-pls if the question is later reopened.
@RobertHarvey See above. Meta is the only place to handle this kind of disputes.
14:39
@Dharman: You already told me that in your meta post.
Part of the problem with meta is that people use it for issues that don't carry sufficient weight, like this one. Corporate might take meta more seriously if it weren't constantly bikeshedding over things that don't matter all that much.
Then corporate needs to give us means to deal with content in other ways. The way I see it is that they have given us meta to use as a last resort. It's a tool for the community, not a communication channel to corporate.
And site's content is the most important part of the site.
18:07
I am so disappointed with Stack Overflow this week
@Dharman only this week? :)
particularly this week
First the company runs insulting survey and then I get treated rudely on Meta for wanting to keep Stack Overflow clean
I can't find any good questions to answer.
Most of the new questions are just repost from the same person but different account
18:22
@tink it would be good idea to indicate "NATO" in such old questions along your request
@desertnaut - one of the answers was edited 9 minutes ago (that's why I saw this in the first place) - does that qualify?
19:01
@TylerH Thanks for the update. Can't say I'm fully surprised.
@Dharman Only this week?
19:14
@Dharman insulting survey?
@desertnaut The qualifying recent activity is linked at the top of the question page under the title if you're curious what prompted it; in this case it was an answer edit, not a new answer, so NATO would have been inappropriate/inaccurate
@Dharman Ah yeah, I had already forgotten about that
The comments under that seem unnecessarily sarcastic/piling on, especially for someone who's clearly brand new to the role.
Meta is a bad place
Can someone tell me the difference between these two? stackoverflow.com/questions/23282284/… and stackoverflow.com/questions/24027546/…
I opened one and I thought I had deja vu
@Dharman I missed that one somehow. I wasn't sure if was possible for my opinion of certain companies to go lower, but somehow it seems to have. (sorry for double ping)
Maybe that code is from a tutorial website, or maybe a class?
Could be. I assume it is as I see no other connection between them
I closed them now
19:23
Actually, no, it's from SO: stackoverflow.com/a/52293638/13095326
@Dharman there's no actual/meaningful difference in the titles
> 1 Infinity Loop
haven't read the bodies yet
That's not even the right address :-(
@IanCampbell That's 4 years later
This answer is a copy of that code
19:24
code looks exactly the same too
Ah, good point
Maybe it was copied from PHP manual but some old version of it
Although I have never seen that code in the manual
@IanCampbell that is... one confused question
You would think it is asking how to write a SQL query in Swift
but what it appears to be actually requesting is a translation of Java code to Swift
Please let me know if the answer author responds to you.
19:29
@TylerH And the title is asking for something different altoghether
Actually, I'm following now
I am only seen results from SO and some Russian site. google.com/…
and that russian site is just SO mirror
this Q from 2013 has the same first bit of code stackoverflow.com/questions/20609231/…
19:36
Wow... so... many
None of these look like original
i would just go with the assumption the source was a tutorial of some form outside so
Indeed I've found a number of tutorial sites that have copied the same code, but none published before the 2014 question
20:09
@Dharman I saw what happened and believe the post might have been better received if you had formulated it more like a question, instead of just a plea for close votes. Something like "Should this question about... be closed as a duplicate...?" (or "Is this question about ... a duplicate...?") which is inviting discussion from the community.
The part about deletion is unnecessary and a distraction but then came to dominate the discussion. I wouldn't be surprised if most of the reaction you saw is due to people trying to save the post. Rather take one step after another, since the deletion and the closure as a duplicate are two different issues.
20:37
@JeanneDark I took your notes into consideration. Is it better? meta.stackoverflow.com/q/407658/1839439
Yes, I think it's better now!
@Dharman Meta is murder.
wat
the queue is full
22:07
@Dharman That was a split meta vote, chances are most voters don't have a gold badge, don't have 10k, don't actually close questions, etc...On any other day the count could have gone either way. Makoto's answer probably influenced how votes on the question went.
22:22
The new revision is much better. I think the meta question would have fared better if that were the original post.
@Dharman I would say, in the original revision, the title comes across as though you are frustrated, and that closing the question is not a big deal (that's probably not how you wrote the post). That may have been why the Meta Treatmentâ„¢ was applied to your question (i.e. Downvote into oblivion, and then close as not suitable).
Sorry for the edit notification. My OCD couldn't handle the lack of question mark.
There are no notifications on meta
OK then, today I learned.
23:15
@Dharman @IanCampbell There are notifications on meta. However, in order for there to be a notification generated, the edit has to make a "substantive" change. Adding a "?" to the title is not considered sufficient to generate a notification of the edit. OTOH, if the post is open in a tab, there will be an indication that an edit has been made and to click to reload the post/page.
23:28
@Makyen Thanks for the clarification.
Welcome
Today in "bold strategies": posting the same non-answer to a question a third time after moderators deleted the first two, and including a threat to continue posting it even if IP-banned. Let's see how that goes for this person :-p

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