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12:00
@tripleee oh could be, I know nothing about Moldovan. Just that Romanian is Latin
@oguzismail it thought I was a Kiwi! Definitely needs more training...
@Nick Pf, for most people Australia and NZ both fall in the category of "bloody far off"
It thinks I'm Canadian
@oguzismail 1) Turkish 2) Spanish 3) Finnish. Not even close!
@Adriaan Strange, so do people from your country to us! :-)
12:06
@Vega mmm, you aren't or at least I don't. It wouldn't be ethical (!!) except with those users who assume themselves as "public personalities" here and thus obviously choose voluntary to give that insight into their personas. I'll remind discretion is in the eye of the beholder. The cultural subtleties are different from the former, and in no way invasive (because they aren't placed on a personal level).
1) German 2) English 3) Dutch
Incredible
Maybe it just checks your IP address? ;)
The interesting thing was my 2nd/3rd choices for native language were Norwegian/Swedish...
@janw no, then it would have guessed Finnish for me
Very interesting, it is indeed pretty accurate. Now I wonder whether I am writing "germ-ish" :D
'Can I please become the cake?'
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@tripleee So your first language is Finnish?
12:10
@oguzismail no, third
What's the first then, I always thought you were American
depending on how you count; I started to learn English later than Finnish but I stopped being afraid to open my mouth earlier
@janw A lie?
@oguzismail Swedish
12:13
@oguzismail Singaporean, Ebonics and New Zealandish for my dialect; Portuguese, Swedish and Greek for my native language.
I got Australian, Singaporean and Welsh for dialect guesses ... weird
It probably gets confused since I learned english reading translated mangas :D
and reality is ... Spanish?
I got US Black Vernacular as the first guess for accent
Yep.
12:16
@oguzismail Very interesting. It's strangely close but off at the same time though :)
@Scratte Yea it needs some more training
"Our top three guesses for your English dialect: 1. US Black Vernacular / Ebonics 2. English (England) 3. Welsh (UK)" close, I guess. A the preamle to the quiz assured me that it's fine to choose things that are used rather than taught, so I chose a few similar to "He be working" or "People be angry". Which is Ebonics I've heard in US TV shows.
Other than that, I tried to go for mostly what seemed "correct" even though I know some constructs were likely used by certain people. There was a question about a test and you could choose to call it a "he" or a "she" which would make sense if you're coming from a language with gendered nouns.
Didn't really go for those, though. Just what I've heard mostly natives speak. So, US/UK seems appropriate.
"Our top three guesses for your native (first) language: 1. English 2. Dutch 3. Portuguese" not even close." not even close, though.
I think it guessed that I speak either Finnish or Hungarian with a Welsh (UK) dialect.
@RyanM Probably because you're too polite to not be ;)
@VLAZ I don't like those test. "Fingerprinting" a native language from a foreign language requires a tremendous corpus and the "tell tale" signs will be subtle incoherences and consistencies in phrase construction and choice of words. And the logic behind it is a case-by-case 1-to-1 mapping between languages, so super complex...
12:26
@bad_coder Yep, I don't think it can really guess correctly other than watch for common mistakes. Like if you use "he" for the test, it can narrow down that 1. your native language has gendered nouns 2. it's maybe half (or whatever portion) of those languages where a test is male rather than female.
@VLAZ Ohhh it can, rest assured it can!! It's been a fertile area of research and publication in recent years.
@bad_coder the tooltips at the end of the quiz already mention that it was initially designed to figure out the accent of a native English speaker ("He be working" is US vernacular, "I am finished my homework" Canada/Ireland/Scotland etc), and only recently started to learn what constructs people coming from other languages find most common.
For the latter I do agree though that that is difficult to guess, as most English a non-native speaker hears will most likely be American/British on the telly, or what is now known as "European English" the English spoken by many Europeans, which resembles a go-between of US and English with easier words.
@VLAZ in terms of NLP, the issue these days is "fingerprinting" individual users from among a haystack. So if you're concerned about privacy better throw out your favorite words and expression, and mix up you word salad.
Not sure throwing noise at data gathering is an effective way to hide. It tends to be quite noticeable. Kind of like trying to avoid the sound of footsteps by screaming at the top of your lungs. Yes, nobody would hear you walk and they might not realise where you're stepping but they'd notice you.
Besides, people are quite bad at being random and unpredictable.
@VLAZ Well, if you hide yourself behind common place expressions there won't be much left to go on...Image all the sayings from American movies, you could get 1 sentence for everything. But you'd be left not saying much...It would be personally frustrating.
12:35
@VLAZ We need a re-phrase user script to post what we write in strange new ways :D
@Scratte There are several writing algorithms out there that you give a start and then they write a whole text. Usually a story but maybe they can be adapted to SO posts. The results from the algorithms are sometimes surprisingly good but often subtly flawed.
It might still improve the average quality of posts on SO...
lol!. If only it could also Answer the Questions :D
But I was thinking of changing my natural phrasing on chat, to rotate between dialects.
@VLAZ The most interesting such cases I've found are automated chat bots. It's a lot more difficult spotting and revealing them than you might think.
Maybe I'm a chat bot. I was made by a Welsh speaking Norwegian.. constantly typing wrong and correcting myself to throw people off.
@Georgy Why didn't you flag it? If it's a duplicate answer, I guess mods would delete it
12:41
@Scratte reading over the transcript I would say we already have that user script ....
@bad_coder Especially since you sometimes get real support person on the other end of a chat and they are usually bored and overworked, then made to follow a strict script. So the real person might seem even more "robotic" than usual. Chatbots tend to try and emulate emotions, a support person who currently feels dead inside would find that too much effort.
@VLAZ Its been a common practice for years on dating sites like anastasiadate.com to have several carefully engineered chat bots (with their own personalities) to entertain the patrons. If you go to high-volume forums you'll find such bots in numerous quantities.
@rene I know there's a joke in there, but I think I need it explained :(
@Scratte here at Worldbuilding somebody posted an autogenerated text. It was overall decent, honestly but didn't follow answering very well.
@Scratte doesn't that prove what I write is re-phrased in a strange new way ;)
12:47
I guess so :D but I think we need one that doesn't result in "Huh?"
Huh? ;)
@bad_coder Ha!
@bad_coder rene's pot also hangs out on SO
@Machavity hahaha Another long lost cousin :D
@rene so now we know your profession :D
13:00
@oguzismail They got my first language correct. But identifying my English as US Black did somewhat surprise me.
Are we allowed to just copy example code from the official docs and make it as our whole answer?
@Dharman might not be a very good answer but it's usually an answer.
@Dharman For new answers I mod-flag those as plagiarism
But this one is very old
I don't understand why the best answer there is at score 0 (+9/-9) and the one copied from PHP manual that doesn't explain much is the most upvoted one
✔ attribution ✔ reference ✔ addresses the question
13:04
@Dharman I'd say: No. How to reference material written by others states "Do not copy the complete text of external sources"
I edited and now it's broken
That new commonmark is really annoying
Every time I see this question I want to add my own answer saying "Just don't close it" and then I scroll down and see there already is one.
@Dharman Meh. Not great, but it does posit an answer, and avoids the somewhat rude RTFM rejoinder
A good answer would be to use a singleton instance, but meh...
And self deleted. Was trying to leave a MRE comment
13:26
@oguzismail I've been flagging these types of answers before but in the end a mod contacted me and asked me to stop doing that unless the answer is a blatant copy-paste.
I still don't know if OP received the bounty back for that deleted question like Braiam said. If so then what was the point in waiting?
@Dharman don't you see something in the user's bounty tab? I imagine if it's refunded then any trace of it disappears, as if it was never assigned in the first place.
The problem is that we do see reputation changes for deleted questions. Only mods can see it.
13:41
@janw idont thinks it used ip, i didn't use vpn, and it turns out i live half around the glob, lol
@TylerH @Dharman OP edited to English. If it's off-topic for another reason, you may re-post
14:00
@TylerH Sorry I voted to reopen. I guess archiver didn't pick it up when it was closed
Ah, hmm yeah I see that now :-)
14:21
@oguzismail that was fun, thanks
14:33
@AndrasDeak yw
14:45
For those who are more knowledgeable about than I am: Is this question answerable or too broad?
@CodyGray I wanted to post on meta as @Vega suggested. But during research it is clear that this question was asked b4 and the consensus is it is ok to ask about explanation. Even Shog9 says it's acceptable to ask Can anyone suggest improvements or corrections to this?. If you said clearly that this is just your personal opinion, I wouldn't have argued so much.
15:01
@bad_coder Where do you know it is caused by typo? There are several possibilities.
@TheMaster I haven't been part of the previous conversation, but I sign myself under what Shog said. If you want improvement you can ask in comments or on Meta, but complaining about votes is not a good idea. I would also advise against replying to such comments, it rarely does anything good. If I see anyone asking why the downvotes under their post I simply flag as no longer needed. These comments are noise and serve no purpose.
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If you want to learn how to improve your answering skills then ask on Meta for guidance.
@bad_coder I'm voting to close as NDoC.
@Dharman Thank you. We already agreed "complaining" is a bad idea. But when Cody said There is no acceptable way and that I just had 3 options, none of which included any requests for feedback, I was really confused and thought that this is the general meta consensus. I was hoping to see why it's a bad idea to request for feedback, when I first opened that link. Instead, the general consensus seems to be it's ok to ask for improvement.
@RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio The answer says there is a missing 's' to 'request' and the error message complains about 'request' without s. That gives the idea that it is due to the typo, no?
@TheMaster Asking for improvement is ok, but most people ask questions and then ask what the downvotes mean. We are tired of explaining this to people. If you want to learn how to improve your skills then we can help you.
15:10
@Vega Yes, but is this solution reliable? I see no votes nor feedback from OP that it worked in this way.
in Tavern on the Meta on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, yesterday, by Mithical
"Why the downvote?" comments are useless. "How can I improve this?" is different.
@Dharman Yes. I agree
The conversation before and after it is also very relevant
15:36
@RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio That is Unclear :)
@Scratte What is unclear? The question? :-)
Does anyone know what this Question is about? I especially like the tag which says "DO NOT USE"
@RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio Your abbreviation. New people is not going to figure it out, I'm afraid. And it took me quite a while to work it out.
Oops :)
Thanks
15:52
@RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio NDoC - New Dials on the Clock? A competitor for New Kids on the Block I suppose... ;-)
@Vega That answer also doesn't really look like one
@TylerH Needs Details or Clarity
user12867493
(Never mind, connection issue)
@Scratte Ah that is what you meant. I was kind of confused. :)
@TylerH xDDDD
@JeanneDark Yes, it was a joke :-) Sorry of it wasn't clear
@RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio When people say "Oops" they usually replied to me
15:53
@JeanneDark Nope, I'm 99% sure it was an attempt to reply to the existing comment, which he can't do since he only has 1 rep
@JeanneDark Right!
@JeanneDark Again: Confusion! xD I replied to Scratte's post before.
@RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio Sorry, when I hover over that message it highlights Scratte's Oops message
I like to use Ref:s before the actual comment. I learnt it from an experienced user in a conversation once.
Heh.. this entire conversation is going in a way of super confusion :)
15:58
@TylerH Or New Dogs on Circus.
@JeanneDark That's because RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio didn't reply to my message. But just put @Scratte in the beginning of the message. It defaults to going back to my most recent message :)
Am I wrong about this question needing details or clarity? You need to watch a youtube video, so it's not self-contained.
@TylerH But to be serious: Wouldn't it make sense to use abbreviations more? You could implement it into the FAQ at the SOCVR website.
@JeanneDark That depends.. if the video is just extra, then it's fine. I'll watch it.
For example: NDOC - Needs details or clarity, NDD - Needs debugging details, NMF - Needs more focus. It would safe some time for writing and reading.
16:02
@JeanneDark It just shows what's already explained in the description.
@Scratte so the question's fine?
@JeanneDark Heh.. Not sure about that. The description makes more sense to me after I've watched the video though :D
@Scratte Thanks. Now it's got at least two people scratching their heads
@JeanneDark @Scratte The video is IMHO more confusing than the description of the problem.
Thank you!
16:07
@RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio No.. that is not very easy. This is easy: Unclear, No focus, No mimimal. You can even lose the "No" and no one will have to go through the strange order of letters to work it out :)
@Scratte even easier: unclear, too broad, min-reprex
@RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio we do use abbreviations/acronyms quite a lot here (and you are welcome to use whichever ones you want, typically). I don't recall what the SOCVR website has on acronyms...
@JeanneDark Yes :) That is also very easy to understand. Thanks :)
16:11
I do not understand why that post has so many downvotes. min-reprex is so much better then mcve.
@Scratte Perhaps people disagree with you :-)
@TylerH I think it's habit. Nothing else.
You could ask on SO what is a better acronym for such a thing: MRE, MCVE, or Min-Reprex :-P
Sometimes I just want to put a comment like "There's a much detail and clarity in your post as if you had written 'I'm doing something on my computer and the background isn't green. Why?'"
16:25
@Scratte It's easy to have those sorts of thoughts.
@DavidBuck Often, I think to myself, that I must be very clueless about this strange technology that's in the Question, but then it turns out that I wasn't the clueless one.. :D
I learned today that meta.SE is a completely different site than meta.SO.
@Scratte So long as they indicate what sort of green they want it to be, why they think it should be green and a demonstration of what colour it actually is, then what's the problem?
@Scratte Is this a more detailed version of your green background post? :)
@DanielWiddis It is.. try not to go there. meta.stackoverflow is an endless abyss, but meta.stackexchange is even worse. It doesn't have a ladder, there's no way up or out. You'll be trapped in there forever. You'll not be able to read anything else. You'll never sleep again, never have time to eat. Your real life will be over ;)
16:32
@Scratte Might I get eaten by a grue?
@DanielWiddis Eaten by a grue - that takes me back a few years!
@DanielWiddis I read the posts about the licensing kerfuffle and the arbitrage kerfuffle.. it took almost a month :O
@AdrianMole How do know what they're doing? :)
I haven't really known where I'm going for decades! ;-)
@DanielWiddis I'll give you a few links if you want to get lost there :D
@Scratte No thanks, I'm happy browsing the close queue and redirecting dupes to the canonical NullPointerException post, despite it's misuse of "i.e.," :)
16:45
@AdrianMole I thought you were going to the pub.
17:05
@Scratte Uhhhmmm ... I have more rep on MSE then I have on SO proper ...
@rene They got to you, huh? :)
Ah .. :(
Does this question not require more focus? Wants us to write their script.
^^SD post is in danger of turning into a Monty Python sketch.
17:25
Hi @JeanneDark! Nice to meet you here. Your answer actually helped me today - the PHP one! 😁
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Thanks! I'm glad it did!
@JeanneDark Yep... Doing a webinar on same topic, if you are interested, you can come too!
Okay, I'll stop my off-topic convo! LoL.
I voted to migrate to meta. Now it needs a mod-flag I guess
@Vega Hmm?
Now I guess it's no?
@Machavity The post wasn't fitted for SO, but meta. It wasn't migrated after closure because of different votes. What could be done?
@Vega Which?
@Machavity Wow, you became a mod? 😁
17:34
Yea, please check it out... ^^^ @Machavity. I guess I might become a target soon! LoL.
Thanks @JeanneDark...
@Vega Ha ha... Why did you think so?!
@Vega I can't guarantee sharks won't eat it there, but it's on MSO now
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Hmm... was said with severity ;)
@Vega Okay, learning something new. I'll stay put.
@Machavity Thank you :)
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman It's been quite a while there, hasn't it? ;)
17:39
@Machavity Ha ha, I've not been really active around... I was doing a lot of webinars on YouTube...
Found a nice hobby in the lockdown and it works well! 😁
So congrats then!!! I am so happy for you!
How should answers posted as questions be handled?
@ChristopherMoore Flag them as NAA (not an answer)
@Vega I mean it's a question that contains an answer.
@PraveenKumarPurushothaman Well, I'm not alone either
@ChristopherMoore Updated after some time with answer or a question and answer post?
17:43
@Vega No
Someone commented on it but no action was taken.
@ChristopherMoore If the OP updated their post with an answer, rollback it
edit out the answer part and maybe post as community wiki.. Depends on the quality
@ChristopherMoore That is 'unclear'
Grr... I should learn to not edit meta post in the first minute, I usually have to reapply the edit
18:33
@RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio because on PyPi there's no "request" to pip, only a "requests" and other variations...
18:47
@CodyGray This is an example. This question is asking how to do something, and it got downvoted for that reason.
@RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio disagree — has all the debugging details you need and has a fine answer
@RobertSsupportsMonicaCellio IMO, it would be better if you don't. This room already has a significant barrier to entry. It would be better to not increase that, if possible. Besides, you're asking us to do more work than it is for us to use the complete reason. Most of us already use the Request Generator userscript to generate requests in here, which A) picks up the close reason we used and automatically puts that close reason in the request posted here, and
B) if we write a custom reason, then 1) the close reason you've used is automatically added to the request, and 2) if we want a different reason, or to add additional close reasons, then all the close reasons, and some other things, are automatically substituted in for single characters.
So, for most of us, you're asking us to do more work for messages which are less understandable to someone new to the room. That doesn't sound like a win.
@10Rep That and others are downvoted because they’re duplicates. Endless stream of duplicates.
@Makyen I think it was aimed at those of us that don’t use such scripts.
I agree with the general point. Took me a while to work out what POB meant.
19:03
Maybe we need to explain that in the FAQ?
Other than North Atlantic Treaty Organization, what is NATO, now again?
I know that one! Now...
Not a(n) ......
New....
Not actually trying often...
No...
Oooooh. New answer to old Qqqqqq
It should be NATOQ, not NATO.
Or NAOQ, possibly NAtOQ.
19:06
@rene No, that will just give an excuse to use them. And as Makyen pointed out "This room already has a significant barrier to entry.".
That ... is a strategy LOL
O! S,icmt :)
FAQ is Foreign Access Quibbles, right?
Lambs of Lazarus?
Frame At Colloquial stuff.
@Andreas If it's just your choice not not to use any userscripts ... that's your choice. If it's a limitation other than that, then it might be helpful to know what the limitation is, so that it might be addressed, if possible.
19:09
@Machavity No, it's "Fear of Access Quiz"
@Makyen I’m lazy.
What a wonderful reason to use the user script then :) Click-click.. done :)
@Andreas Ah, but that sounds like the bad sort of lazy :) , where you actually do more work in the long run, rather than investing a bit more work in the short run to do less in the long run. :)
Personally I get confused by SD all the time. When I see it, I think "Store Door".
No... I gotta read the privacy policy and terms of use of the script manager, then install it, then read through all the userscripts, and make sure they’re not taking advantage of any security holes, then download and attach those, then..........
19:13
@Andreas Yes. That's investing time to save more in the long run. :;
@Scratte I think of weapons, but I don’t know why.
@Makyen Did you read the policy of TamperMonkey?
@Makyen Can’t do. Too lazy.
@Scratte I believe I did when I first installed it. I don't believe I've read it recently.
@Andreas Shield. That gotta be why.
@Makyen I read the PP of a game I play, many years ago. Then I reread it yesterday, and it’s safe to say they’ve changed it. Not comfortable playing that game anymore.
19:16
@Makyen I thought you might have read it. I assume you also checked for security holes, or am I mistaken?
@Andreas Oh, well I am not familiar with that technology.
@Andreas A truely lazy person would be willing to invest some time upfront to save more in the long run. :)
So, @Andreas is not a truely lazy person, just a little lazy "now" :)
@Scratte Yes, I read it. As to checking for security holes: some, but not rigorously.
@Makyen What, no. Then an actually truly lazy person would be so lazy they never even manage to do that, so they go into an endless spiral of laziness.
19:18
@Makyen Heh.. I argued that I did not feel a need to check the privacy policy not the security holes, because you had likely already done that :D
@Andreas Yeah, but at that level of laziness, they usually self-select out.
@Makyen Now you’re giving me anxiety too.
@Andreas That's not my intent. :(
When will I be naturally selected out?
@Makyen ;P Was a joke. ;)
@Andreas I use Opera for Stack Overflow. That's it. I do not use if for mail or any other service. Just this. I installed the userscript manager and I'm not worried that it's going to be able to sniff out what I do in my other browsers. I did it this way, because I'm lazy too.
19:23
@Andreas :)
..I also sometimes use it for youtube whenever they go off saying they will not play a video due to my region. Opera has an inbuilt VPN, that so happens to confuse youtube :)
@Andreas I have no idea if you will. I wasn't specifically referring to you.
@Scratte I’d run Opera in a VM too. :) Ultimate protection.
I tried Vivaldi, but got rid of it. I ended up with FF and Tor instead.
@Makyen I actually already have. It’s so much easier to just leave a flag, than to answer.
@Andreas Don't know what the issue is, but I've not been able to run a VM on this computer with any speed required to interact properly on the site. I do use a VM for other things that are security related and concerns me. But.. when I do, it happens very very slowly :D
@10Rep Certain kinds of questions will tend to be asked over and over again. You’ll recognize them independently of their language/field.
@Scratte At least you can fit a VM on your disk. I’m stuck with 128GB. I need an upgrade.
19:34
@Andreas You mean "How do I loop all the elements of.. array/list/cursor/.."
@Andreas Only just. I think I have 3G free now.. next time Windows wants to update, I may be in trouble :D
@Scratte Heh. Annoying. I have 500MB-5GB free. Depends on how much the cache and moved memory grow. Then the disk gets so full I can’t even empty the trash bin. Of course, it won’t shut down either, so it needs to be forced off.
@Scratte Something like that.
I think maybe a desktop is a wise choice next time.. with 100MGB and room for improvement :D
MG?
100 machine guns?
Fixed it.. 100*1000*GB :) Ahh.. that a T :)
Neh, I want a laptop. My secondary computer has enough storage (1,5 TB), but that’s a heavy, loud game computer... running Windows...
@Scratte I’ll need to win the lottery first.
19:41
Do you play? Or do you have be extra lucky to find a ticket that someone lost on the street that just happens to be the winning ticket? :)
mhm, no, that’s the issue. I don’t play the lottery
I tried getting a price tag for Samsung’s 8 TB SSD, so I clicked on «buying options», then got «shops», a map, and «showing all 0 shops». So useful.
Zoom out ....
@rene Didn’t work.
Zooming worked, but it still showed 0 over all of Europe.
And you don't fancy to find one cash-and-carry in Auckland?
19:59
@rene Well, they have a support centre down there, but I’d need transportation. 100 TB with 8 TB disks is just 13 disks, and that’s not a large quantity.
right ...
All this means I’d have to buy a boat as well.
@halfer I don't agree. See the conversation from two days ago
@Andreas Just Googled "Largest SSD" and an ad popped up for a 384TB drive for £1300...
@DavidBuck Seems legitimate. I’ll take it.
@halfer This doesn't apply to official documentation.
@Scratte Noted, thanks
@halfer @rene Could you zap this one please?
@halfer bin it, you mean?
or close it?
I zapped it
To me this question appears to be possibly off-topic as it seems to be about tableau while only tableau-api questions are on-topic.
20:38
@JeanneDark not touching that hornet's nest of a topic...
since I have apparently dived into that hornet's nest on MSE...and found surprisingly few hornets there.
ew ew ew they added hard borders to the code diff view i.sstatic.net/Rtdu5.png
I don't see no borders
@M-- Even after the rollback?
@Dharman the big dark things?
I use the light bulb mode so maybe it is only present in dark mode
20:43
straight lines of darkness bordering it making it look like a 2005-era table layout
@TylerH I don't get those borders. Are yours on regular revisions or just in suggested edit reviews?
@JeanneDark I will say what I am telling myself all the time: "It's a well-threaded tag and the question is obviously closable. Let's wait few minutes or hours before asking this room to intervene"
@Scratte this is just in suggested edit so far (not in the review queue)
@TylerH Sorry, yes bin it :-)
@Dharman Ok, I will post less in here
20:46
We really appreciate your contributions, but sometimes this room doesn't need to intervene. Regulars in that tag handle it themselves.
Understood
@Dharman Is that because we want to save our votes? I rarely run out, personally.
@halfer No. We want to save time.
@JeanneDark Funny thing about this one is that was closed outside the room :) I have several java-tagged Questions that's just sitting there with my little flag on it :(
Votes too, but the purpose of this room is to quickly close the questions that neither regulars nor the review queue can handle quickly enough.
20:50
@Dharman Or close the ones that are missed in the queue, no?
@JeanneDark Dharman’s right about the Java tag. Python and PHP posts, however, and lots of smaller tags...
@Scratte Yes that too.
What actually is the worst of the worst tags? It seems to me as if it’s Python.
@Andreas Android!
20:52
@halfer Neh! Most of those are tagged with Java too.
According to SEDE the worst tag is actually . Me and YCS cast a lot of downvotes there.
@Dharman No, I think Python is worse.
Ah, in the sense they are handled by curators in a popular tag? Good news for us, I guess.
@Dharman Yeah, ok. That’s not a language tag, though, but I didn’t really ask about that specifically. ;P
Define the worst tag. Do you mean in terms of closable questions not getting closed or in terms of closable questions being asked?
20:54
I think is probably not a fast handling tag :)
@halfer Well... I know at least that in Python, gold tag badge holders answer garbage, and terrible questions get upvoted, and are left unclosed out there.
@Dharman Define the worst tag? OK, ...
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@Dharman All of it, actually.
:-)
But honestly.. I really think is the worst.
20:56
actually most tags are the worst
there are only a few that are not the worst
Hmm.. you had to mention , huh? :)
Definitely Haskell. Nothing there but audits for miles.
@Scratte I almost did, actually
But yeah the worst tag in terms of volume of badness (intentionally defined vaguely) has got to be one of Android, Java, PHP, Regex, or SQL. Maaaaaybe Python, too.

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