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user3956566
12:00
@Kyll smokey said it was your fault
2 more close-votes please
And that typo question got upvoted... damn
user3956566
@Cerbrus exactly my point before. already voted
Now +4 and -2.
user3956566
the interesting thing is the === and == operators
user3956566
didn't know that about type checking
12:01
back
Just 1 more close-vote
user3956566
@Tunaki you been on the low q q?
@Cerbrus Done.
@Cerbrus In the PHP tag we have a good dupe for it: stackoverflow.com/q/2063480/3933332 :)
@MrsEd I'm down to 30 flags for toda, so been busy flagging yeah
user3956566
12:03
@Tunaki I rarely use that many flags.. I prob should be cruising the site more
user3956566
@Rizier123 nice q
There's 4 downvotes and 4 upvotes on that answer, will the author get these two badges this time?
@KevinGuan nope, it depends on the score
so no badge
user3956566
I'm leaving the answer well alone. It is correct.
Oh, that one.
12:06
Hm, I can almost delete-vote that question
user3956566
I've not voted either way
Answer is deleted anyway
user3956566
@Cerbrus you look very wolfish tonight ;)
This afternoon*
This morning*
user3956566
ah 11 pm here, what time there?
@Tunaki Why?
it's an edit of an obvious question in a answer
13:07
should be flagged
12:07
20:05
Looks like a good edit to me
@DavidG it's an answer
The edit is good
user3956566
@DavidG I agree, it improves it, although it's minor
Doesn't mean the answer shouldn't be flagged
12:08
but if I flag it, it'll be disputed when the edit is approved
I'd check, but I can't open it now.
user3956566
it's a question
user3956566
oh no it's an answer with an edit revision that says question lol
Lunchtime, laters peeps!
user3956566
I try not to approve edits on lq posts
user3956566
12:09
@DavidG later, enjoy!
what do you think about a question about a typo in a 3rd party's readme, i highly doubt this question is going to help anyone: stackoverflow.com/questions/34126175/…
About that edit, as @Cerbrus said, the edit is good, despite the answer is bad. However this edit only fixed the format, it doesn't let this real question become an answer. So flag that answer as NAA is still fine.
Approve edit, flag post
@Tunaki What do you think about what I said?
12:11
I don't see the point in editing non-answers
the flag is disputed if you flag it
and it gives more work to reviewers
for nothing, since it's going to be deleted anyway
user3956566
@cimmanon probably not, I just don't know anything about it, but for a typo in the docs, it could be closed or answered
And, the user who proposed the edit is happy, +2 rep and probably will do it another time
cycle continues
user3956566
@Cerbrus I usually skip edits like that, I don't reject them if they're good, but don't approve them if the post is really bad and no amount of editing will help
Is ping him OK here?
user3956566
@KevinGuan no
12:14
@MrsEd why not? we ping users here all the time
user3956566
@cimmanon I didn't think we brought users into here about editing?
private room
user3956566
suggested editing
However, I'll not edit if a post like that, but I'll not reject a edit if it's really good like that. I'll create a private room and ping him then talk about this.
room created, waiting for his reply now.
12:24
thanx for reply but they are old one and m afraid but few question m not familiar with them but can see other users are giving downvote means they are not useful at all, then what to do? isn't there any way to close them so they won't lead to wrong way to others? — Leo the lion 2 mins ago
What is dis i don even
Beginning of a spam: 1 2. Agree?
I'm keeping a tab, if there's a third post, I'm flagging
user3956566
multiple duplicate answers from user linking to personal github repo stackoverflow.com/a/34133112/3956566
we now edit answers too here?
user3956566
is that about my post above @easwee?
@Tunaki Smells like spam
12:35
@Cerbrus it does but not smelly enough to me for now
Already flagged.
@MrsEd yes
It doesn't really answered the question, and there's only link in his answer. Which is enough.
And there's two of them
OK, flagged
:)
user3956566
12:36
@easwee did I ask anyone to edit it? It was the same as Tunaki's links above, is there a reason you singled me out?
Also that user is is Member since today.
Ah the third just arrived
Oh, that one is 30 seconds old
@MrsEd chill man I'm not attacking you - I'm just questioning the scope of the room
That user will be banned soon.
12:37
Oh, reporting also helps on other channels where smokey resides, right
user3956566
@easwee I've already been singled out once today, that's enough. Especially when everyone else here is doing the same. ps I'm a woman
@MrsEd plz keep gender for yourself
sd deleted deleted deleted
user3956566
@easwee then don't call me a man. You're the one who came in here obviously looking for a fight with me
12:38
lol
Hold it right there
Yes, please don't make this a discussion about gender. Please stop now
nope - I jsut asked why are we dealing with answers
user3956566
I don't care if you are a room owner, leave me alone and back off, do you understand?
lol?
I'm not even room owner
12:39
sd deleted
sd coffee coffee coffee
user3956566
He called me man and I corrected him
Enough or we will need to get RO/mod involved.
lol
you went all aggro on me
--- Stop with the gender right now, go get a private room to sort your business ---
12:39
End of discussion.
Take a breather.
my question still remains - are we handling answers too now?
user3956566
@Tunaki I didn't start it! I was referred to as man and corrected the person
user3956566
am I not allowed to say I don't like it
@MrsEd And now you can drop it
@MrsEd: Stop it.
12:40
@MrsEd You are and you said it, now please stop.
@MrsEd please drop the hostility
@easwee: not helping.
If you want to continue arguing, move the discussion elsewhere, this is not appropriate here
back on topic:
1 min ago, by easwee
my question still remains - are we handling answers too now?
define "handling"
12:42
^ that
flag reports
I think we can as long as it's infrequent, kinda depends on the answer
low quality answers
spam / rude only
12:42
I see no reason not to /
as long as we handle those only I'm fine - bringing edits here would be a bit much imo
@MrsEd Sorry if it sounded a bit harsh but I guess you can agree that this room is not appropriate for that ;). So... I hope we can get back on topic here. Are we cool?
If Smokey can do it, then we can too. But it's preferable to report it to Smokey first.
But we still can have some coffee.
!!/coffee
@KevinGuan brews coffee for @KevinGuan
12:45
stay calm and focus on questions not trivial stuff
:P
@easwee it's been written in the new guidelines actually
@Tunaki ah so those got updated
cool
Good morning
Morning
afternoon*
12:45
night*
Morning o/
Yo!
good 13:47
Looks like I'll be a Mortarboard very soon...so my question is, what does Mortarboard mean?
what's that?
12:47
Google images has the answer.
The square academic cap, graduate cap, cap, mortarboard (because of its similarity in appearance to the hawk used by bricklayers to hold mortar) or Oxford cap, is an item of academic head dress consisting of a horizontal square board fixed upon a skull-cap, with a tassel attached to the centre. In the UK and the US, it is commonly referred to informally in conjunction with an academic gown worn as a cap and gown. It is also sometimes termed a square, trencher, or corner-cap. The adjective academical is also used. The cap, together with the gown and (sometimes) a hood, now form the customary uniform...
@KevinGuan Did you try Google?
that is the last thing I would say it is
Oh, that's fine.
also we don't use those in europe
12:48
I'll be a hat??
so go figure
@easwee We do in UK (not all universities)
@DavidG interesting - it probably spred to US from UK
We have them here in the states. We start using them at our high school graduation where I am at.
Okay, so I got 175 rep today, still need an upvote and an accept or three upvotes or two accepts.
@NathanOliver So that means Jeff is from America.
12:51
@NathanOliver here some students wear them when they graduate, but it's nothing official
at most it makes you look dumb ;P
@easwee But you do get to toss them up in the air when the ceremony is done so there is the risk of taking someones eye out which makes it thrilling ;)
Oh, someone upvoted my answer, now it's 185.
@KevinGuan I am not sure if it means he is from America but you are correct that he is from America.
12:56
@NathanOliver :P Yeah, that one.
@NathanOliver are there any stats for "eyes lost per graduation ceremony"?
lol. I don;t think there is but it wouldn't surprise me if someone had something.
@KevinGuan I am not sure on that. From what I can tell Jupyter is a programming related tool.
13:10
@NathanOliver For me, if we can't help OP on code, then it's off-topic. Unless some people see that question and trying to help OP...maybe there's a meta post.
if we can't help OP on code, then it's off-topic i disagree
So? And why?
@KevinGuan That is not correct. If I have a problem is Microsoft Visual Studio that is not code related it is still okay to post on SO. Here is an example of one such question.
Also from the help on what is on topic
> software tools commonly used by programmers; and is
Ah, also we have tag here...fair enough. But I still need find a meta post which gives some explain on that point. Searching...
Sam
Sam
@MrsEd Yeah
That's a known issue
13:15
@Sam alive
Sam
Sam
@gunr's working on it
Hey @Sam
Sam
Sam
Hey
Is alive of Sam's commands broken?
Sam
Sam
Plot twist: it never existed.
13:17
Oh, @Sam commands.
Is just a link to an github issue enough attribution or is that over the edge of plagiarism?
Depends on the rest of the answer
Sam
Sam
@KevinGuan Nope.
@Cerbrus it copies the issue verbatim without any further additions
This isn't spam but too broad right? stackoverflow.com/questions/34134527/…
@Sam :(
13:19
@Cerbrus it start with maybe this will help link to issue, verbatim copy of github issue
Looks like a link-only answer, then
Kinda hard to judge without context
yeah, don't want to link here
@KevinGuan I flagged it for off-topic
@rene I have seen it go both ways. Does it answer the question?
@Cerbrus Fine, closed now.
13:23
@TimCastelijns On to more important things... have you done todays (and the 2 from weekend) challenge?
I have done 5.1 but not the rest </ashamed>
@DavidG not todays but the 2 from the week-end yes
@DavidG Thanks for the reminder. I have to do those
@DavidG someone did 5.1 and 5.2 in less than 2 minutes total :/
@TimCastelijns Really?! How do you know?
13:25
@TimCastelijns I'd like to take a look at this code though, it must be pretty ugly
You see the leaderboards, they show the top 100 fastest
Takes me like at least 15 mins to do the first part only :p
Can anybody make heads or tails of this answer? stackoverflow.com/a/34134688/1743880
@TimCastelijns Same for me I think, 2nd part was annoying. Yesterday took me maybe 7/8 mins for both though
@NathanOliver I flagged for a mod, thanks
13:28
@DavidG I guess that answers my question :D
I don't think it is spam or offensive though
I flagged as VLQ
@Tunaki But it is gibberish and as per Shog's response we can flag it as spam.
Or 1 more delete vote and it's gone anyway.
sd deleted
Oh, 9 minutes too late :P
At least you tried :)
It's the thought that counts
13:46
@NathanOliver You missed one
@DavidG did you use regex for 5.2?
@TimCastelijns Er... can't remember now but I don't think so. I do remember that the code was evil. Haven't kept it as it's on my home computer.
@MadaraUchiha Yeah it came in after the script started.
Looks like a job for regex, but I've never used regex
@NathanOliver I see, it traverses up the transcript instead of down?
13:50
@MadaraUchiha I think it goes from newest to oldest but I haven't actually checked that. rene and tiny wrote it.
@TimCastelijns I used regex also
it solves it in one line
I used grep for both
but had to ask for regex for second
wasted to much time trying by myself
:P
gerp supports regex right?
yep
13:53
grep -E
yeah
so you don't have to escape
grep all the things and run....
I lused to ove grep but rarely get to use it on my windows box
I use ubuntu so it's kinda daily use
You're lucky, I use AIX
And goddamn
13:55
I have it on my box here, it's just Windows doesn't really encourage that sort of actions
@Tunaki Holy crap, I don't think I've used that since 1996
AIX is just a pile of crap, it looks like a normal Linux but it isn't
Ah, sleep time now. Night :)
@Tunaki Wait, we are talking about the IBM product, right? You pay big bucks and it comes with consultants?
@rene That's right, but we don't have any consultants
We just have to work with the stuff. Documentation is sparse, if it exists at all
14:01
I've never used an IBM product that didn't require consultants. They were as flabbergasted as I was with what ever happened
I don't get why people use this stuff. Expensive, no docs, practically no help on the internet
and when you find a Linux command that does what you want, you eventually find out AIX doesn't support that specific command-line option...
like grep -E, or -A, and whatnot
or even grep -r
depressing
maybe try egrep
That is their selling point. We make things simple. The commands and options they don't understand are left out of their products.
wot, no that doesn't exist on AIX
some dists support it only as separate binary
14:06
if you want to do a recursive grep, you have to invoke some "find" magic I never remember
vi is the worst though, I won't get into that but OMFG if you want to lose all your hair, try using it
(quick note: up / down arrows don't work in insert mode and mess up with your file, yeah)
OK, end of the rant :D
I tried vi once because I wanted to feel it - I felt like a retard
@DavidG 5-2 gist.github.com/TimCastelijns/7cbc57049efbcef7bf92 I really think regex could have helped me
@TimCastelijns Yes
vi is awesome!
egrep '(..).*\1' input | egrep '(.).\1' | wc
14:17
@TimCastelijns That's pretty compact still
this was second part solution with grep - not my code :P
I think so, but barely readable
@easwee Ha I have the same regex
I peeked into answers after 5 hours of struggle
I can't count as solved that one :P
They changed something, it looks different.
14:19
font is smaller?
@Rizier123 font size looks smaller
yup + the rep is thicker
seems darker too
in color
yes they just changed the CSS
14:19
does the CSS look broken to everyone?
I refreshed an old tab and you can see the difference
name on a new line after the avatar
@approxiblue They messed up :P
I bet someone will post a meta post about this in the next few minutes
for sure
"Why is the rep in bold?"
@DavidG 6-1 looks challenging
14:22
Ha it's broken on late answer mod tool
It looks like the bold switched from the answered time to the rep.
Just finsihed 5.1 and 5.2. starting 6.1
@TimCastelijns I thought that was easy, did both parts in 7 minutes I think
There's a line break before the username and rep
OK it's broken everywhere
14:34
@DavidG reading the puzzle took me 10 minutes
@Unihedron vlq is not a close reason
@Tunaki thanks for sharing
@Unihedron Well you did ask us to close-vote when you meant flag.
sd deleted
6.1 and 6.2 finished
14:44
6.1 executing atm
Done - got it right :) took a little longer than 7 mins, david
@Thaillie meh. I wouldn't vote on it but I am not going to say you shouldn't
My code is looping 300 million times though, can probably be done better
@Thaillie I'd say it's arguably Too Broad, but not opinion-based. OP is looking for actual issues that might arise from this approach.
JAL
JAL
14:54
hey all
@JAL Plop o/
Hey
Plop @JAL. Fancy some MGE before TF2 Tuesday tomorrow?
JAL
JAL
14:59
@Kyll Not sure what I'm doing tonight, but if I'm not at work too late then sure
@JAL Tomorrow though, I don't have a good enough network to play today
JAL
JAL
ok
I should be free tomorrow
Yay, when could you start?
I don't have an idea on where to start on 7.1
My 6.2 is wrong and no clue why
15:05
@TimCastelijns (hint, the minimum is 0)
JAL
JAL
@Kyll Not sure, maybe 5 PM Eastern? I'll have to let you know
We talked about it, it happened: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/311890/1743880
yup :P
Its like we are prophetic ;)
@Tunaki thanks - think I have it now, but I need to wait 5 mins :(
15:15
^^ edited, but still a Tool Request
morning!
@Tunaki I don't go below 0 but still wrong
Plop!
Hey
15:16
I really want to find a close reason for this post haha stackoverflow.com/questions/34136228/…
@TimCastelijns Hmm that was my mistake on my first try
Hey @gunr2171
@TimCastelijns Did you remember that "toggle" increases by 2
Sam
Sam
Hey
Yeah I probably have some dumb mistake. I removed the loops from part 1 and just kept track of 1 brightness number, running a new try now with the loops back in place but added the negative brightness check now
Yeah that was it - thanks for the tip
JAL
JAL
15:22
If I get "-2 user was removed" does that mean a suggested edit I made was deleted?
a user that last approved an edit you made was removed
JAL
JAL
makes sense
@NathanOliver tip for 7: LSHIFT x by 1 is the same as x^2
@TimCastelijns And the reverse is x^0.5
I meant to say x*2
15:25
@DavidG I so want to edit it and remove the smiley at the end :)
@Rizier123 technically it's not a duplicate since it is talking about a different page but the answer will be the same so I voted to close
well it's gone now
@DavidG So many badges it line-wraps
@Tunaki There's a meta bug post about that somewhere.
@DavidG I think it's the new CSS, before it was hidden
it overflowed on the right
(if I remember correctly)
15:32
@Tunaki You could be right there. It's a simple fix though
Looks like it's cause due to a CSS width being too much on .user-info .user-details. Reduce it from 147px to 143px and it's OK, though I expect it was widened for somewhere else in the site. — DavidG 2 mins ago
just noticed, the width above and below the score is larger
That's a pretty good dup. There are many, like stackoverflow.com/questions/12595561/breaking-array-into-chunks
15:39
Off topic (I flagged asking for a tool): stackoverflow.com/questions/33956537/…
Hi all.
@Am_I_Helpful Hello o/
@Tunaki - I couldn't find you on F2F(SS)! Please give a clue at least how to reach to you.
@TimCastelijns Hi.
@Thaillie Hi.
15:56
@Thomas Include [tag:cv-pls] in requests, please. We have magic that will clean up chat messages with that in them. You might want to use the SO Close Vote Request Generator userscript. AND be sure to read the FAQ.
^ FAQ is very important
just updated it

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