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6:06 PM
Only missing the Creditor badge from the Docs badges now
If I get that, I'll have filled out a whole badge section
likely the only one I'll ever be able to fill out completely
 
What does rep mean in the "real world" though?
 
:) Congrats. I have 2 badges and that might be it for me.
 
@JonClements EVERYTHING!
 
lol... so someone's going to choose me over others because I have rep on SO - not likely
 
Nope, because you'll break their legs otherwise.
 
6:11 PM
@Tunaki wow... one should know you start with breaking a finger first
you need to work out your intimidation tactics :)
 
:)
 
:)
SO rep can help you get a job though.
 
I've never been convinced it can do that
 
SO rep = your salary :P
 
I know I've been at client's offices and someone has said - "are you that Jon Clements that's on SO"
 
6:14 PM
Thats cool
 
I'd say more freaky than anything
 
@JonClements More like "Are you that ninja puppy moderator on SO"
 
do we want to hire a ninja puppy? I guess not, they'll break our legs fingers
 
I don't think it will be the be all end all but the rep may help to influence the decision. Although if they look at chat they might decide otherwise.
 
Are you that puppy that did their poo on my yard?
6
 
6:16 PM
lmao
 
> Are you the guy that deleted my post?!
> Come here, I've been looking for you!
 
JAL
I got my current job though SO careers
 
@JAL How did that go?
 
JAL
Good, they sent me a message saying they were impressed with my tag rankings. They were headhunters for a few different companies. I interviewed at 3, accepted A+E
 
@JonClements You can use them in this show
 
6:26 PM
@JAL Cool
 
6:36 PM
you guys should really specify when those are 20k only situations -_-
 
it is? I don't remember all deh rulez for that
 
@TylerH Sounds like a topic for the next room meeting, on Aug 1, 2017
 
only 362 days away
 
@TylerH Well, implies that privilege, so what?
 
@Tunaki has to be closed for 48 hours for non 20k votes.
 
6:47 PM
and it's used for answers too, which is 20k period
 
and now that there is a delete request lest test the archiver again.
 
They said electronics would be fun, they said. They were wrong :P
 
Do you not like getting electrocuted?
 
I just wanted to build some simple logic gates... I thought it would be fun...
 
@Tunaki We got a rarely repentant and mindful answerer here pinging you because your comment is on there.
 
6:50 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ no, you get delete privs at 10k
 
I suspect the downvote is yours, and your comment is also superflous now, please revisit :3
 
but you can't vote to delete a question at 10k until it's over 24 or 48 hours old (don't remember exactly)
 
@Rizier123 Still working on those eh
 
additionally you can't vote to delete answers until 20k either, IIRC
 
Correct. Answer must be 20k. Q's -3 and 20K or any vote amount and 48 hours closed.
 
6:51 PM
@NathanOliver Not really anymore :( Originally this was my goal +/- youtube.com/watch?v=35zLnS3fXeA now I can't even build one single chip from it with transistors.
 
@TylerH Needs at least 3 dv's for me as soon it was put [on hold]
 
@πάνταῥεῖ by "you" I meant "a user"
at 20k you also only need 3 delete votes, but if 10k users vote to delete, it takes 5
 
@TylerH Sure I am one :)
 
It must have been a while since you earned the delete privileges ;-)
 
3 delete votes kills anything, no?
since when is it 5 @TylerH
 
6:52 PM
@AndrewL. ?? "Should we allow X" is a question for meta. We don't make policy here.
 
Ok, thanks :)
 
@Drew pretty sure it's always been 5 for 10k deleters
 
@Drew Yes, I was referring to down-votes when saying dv
 
I will say that the OP should not have linked to the user. Shaming on meta is bad juju.
 
nah 3 del votes kills it
 
6:54 PM
@Drew actually we're both wrong. It's more than 3 if the question is popular
 
@TylerH 3 min no matter what rep. If the question is up voted then it needs more.
 
but never more than 10
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Q: How does deleting work? What can cause a post to be deleted, and what does that actually mean? What are the criteria for deletion?

jjnguyWhat circumstances can cause a question or answer to be deleted, and what does that actually mean? How can a post be deleted? When can't I delete my own post? Can I see a list of my deleted posts? How can I undelete one of my posts? What does deletion mean for a post? How do votes to delete wo...

 
@Drew Need certain rep to delete.
 
who was talking about it being poplular. I am always right.
 
@NathanOliver I tried and read already so many things that I don't even know how I should describe my problem anymore with those transistors :P
 
6:54 PM
@TylerH No one boxes pls!
 
@Rizier123 Bummer. I have never done one otherwise I would offer to help.
 
i could have sworn one-boxing was ifne as long as it wasnt excessive <.<
 
Can a RO bin this request? Another answer came along and made a pretty convincing case it's not a dupe
 
@NathanOliver I tried to use a multimeter to clear up some things. That thing just raised more questions in my head.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ again, one boxes are ok when used seldom and when relevant to the room's purpose
 
6:57 PM
@Machavity Done
 
Thanks
 
Im still not over the fact that someone actually took LQP review comments to heart and improved their stuff
twilight zone SO tonight
 
@Magisch just tonite?? seriously?
 
7:08 PM
i was like "i'll try the late answer queue!"
and that was the only question
er answer.
 
common troll
report, nuke, ip ban, move along
 
Cotton mroll
Why is the m-schwa-r sequence not observed in English a lot? It seems plausible.
I can't remember any instances except mer and its derivatives.
 
... wat
 
@TIPS I honestly have no idea that this means
 
@NathanOliver Random thought, move on
 
7:14 PM
OK
 
@TIPS maybe try to cool down a bit so your electrons become stable again?
 
im going to go get a muffin. hopefully some are left.
 
Just use the muffin button @Compass
 
@NathanOliver pronuncian.com/pronounce-schwar this maybe
 
7:17 PM
@rene I'll just get excited after a couple of days when a buttload of popcorny stuff happens on ELU.
 
no more muffins
 
@TIPS sure, that better stays st ELU ... weird crowd
 
i tried to get wasabi peas but they were stale, had to go to trail mix
 
@TylerH "schwa" is the "i" in bird. CC @Nathan
Phonetically, actually.
Or the "e" in her.
 
catching two exceptions at once?
what magic is this
 
7:19 PM
I don't see how schw can be an i or e sound
but I guess that means I don't know phonetics?
 
Same here
I wonder if the muffin button comes into play?
 
@TylerH No, I mean that schwa is the vowel represented by those letters in those words.
 
@TIPS right but how can a vowel be represented by consonants?
is phonetics not how words sound? Because that seems to be about how your mouth forms the sound with your tongue, etc., instead
 
regarding the question that queen caught
is that actually a duplicate?
 
Only the Tuna knows
 
7:21 PM
it looks like the person is looking for two simultaneous exceptions, rather than two potential exceptions
 
@TylerH Those aren't consonants, those are just letters of the alphabet.
Schwa is /ə/ in IPA.
And no, that's not Indian Pale Ale.
 
@TIPS s c h and w are all consonants...
 
@TylerH The name of the vowel is "schwa".
It's not pronounced like schwa.
 
why not name it "i" instead
y'know, what it is
 
because i can sound different
I mean, look at "live"
 
7:24 PM
it's not the name of the sound just the name of the vowel
 
eye vs ih?
are you nuts D:
 
@TylerH Because the relationship between phonemes (sounds in language) and letters is not a straightforward one.
 
why can't you all just memorize words like we do in English
 
sudo memorize all words
 
In tame, "a_e" stand for one vowel.
 
7:25 PM
see, that wasn't hard
 
A composite vowel.
 
StackOverflow error
 
Why should we care?
 
I am not quite sure how we got on this topic.
 
@rene Care about @Compass's error?
You'd get lost in the middle of a desert.
@Compass Programmers like linguistics! I'm intrigued.
Makes sense. You are already at least bilingual people.
 
7:27 PM
@Compass it happens when the temperature of @TIPS rises
 
Just at least one of your languages isn't used to communicate with people.
 
@Compass I guess he means sql or (hence catch this and also this ) so its probably a dupe
 
@TylerH Crud, it's still August 4th!
 
Well, the "dupe" target is how to catch an exception of type or of type
he is looking for a catch of both type and type, i.e. if it threw two exceptions, he'd catch them in combination, which it wouldn't be able to do
 
7:29 PM
@TIPS er... time warp?
 
@TylerH Well, so much has happened to me today that I thought ten days have passed.
Also, writing up one meta.SE post was out of the ordinary.
I very rarely post these days.
 
They updated Triage limits too meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/331666/…
 
I like they gave the gold and silver badge holders more power. More things to HAMMER!!!
 
@TylerH Yeah, Nog Shine told me/us earlier in the Tavern.
 
@NathanOliver yeah, not sure I like the silver badgers having no review requirement though
I'd prefer just 1 reviewer for silver tag badgers
 
7:34 PM
@NathanOliver Can you link to that?
 
and none for gold
 
We were discussing why a limit of suggested edits queue exists, after the per-person limit.
 
6 mins ago, by TylerH
http://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/331663/documentation-update-august-4th nice
 
^ that
 
Didn't onebox it 'cause I didn't want greek pi to yell at me again :-P
 
7:34 PM
@TylerH Silver is 400 score right?
 
silver tags are not very easy to get <.<
 
@TylerH But...but...that's just documentation
 
@FrankerZ yes, silver and gold badge holders now have more power in Docs
aka they don't have to have their edits reviewed
 
"You must have a total score of 400 in at least 80 non-community wiki answers to achieve this badge."
 
@NathanOliver yes 400 score in 80 answers
 
7:36 PM
basically 4000 rep if all answers
 
most edits would probably be fine but at that point it'd be nice to still have a bit of a spot check for sanity
 
I'm OK with that. 400 score is not a easy thing to get.
 
like im at 170 now and ive been answering java for years <.<
 
It's a lot better then it was
 
7:36 PM
@Compass It's pretty hard not to get 4000 rep and get the badge.
 
@FrankerZ that's fine
 
well yeah but it's pretty hard to get points in java because now it's literally a wasteland of NPEs.
 
@TIPS well you could get lots of rep from several tags and/or from questions
@NathanOliver yeah I'm OK with it too. Just saying if I were making the rules I'd probably give silver tag badges 1 review. Maybe no review if the change was under a certain character amount
 
@TylerH Yes. What I meant is that almost every person with the badge has at least 4000 rep.
4001, actually
 
I see what you mean
could be 4000, assuming they've garnered a downvote somewhere
 
7:40 PM
@TylerH I would also support that.
 
if you're able to get 4000 rep in a tag, I'm sure you know what you're doing <.<
I hope.
yeah if you look at the numbers, 45k have bronze, 18k have silver
so it's not a huge population either way
 
@Compass shh. I still have no clue what I am doing ;)
 
sorry bronze was 95k must have misread
if you type enough, it sounds smurt!
 
sounds like a question
 
JAL
What do to when someone asks "What is a Double?" here
 
7:45 PM
@Drew He put both question/answer as his question. He should have separated it out
 
ah
 
@JAL A double cappuccino? A double shot? :D
 
Really the only question is the title. The rest of it is a answer.
 
I read diagonally upper left to lower right on questions. Max 2 seconds
 
Silly.
Double is when you double your bet.
 
7:46 PM
Float is when the House lets you use their money.
 
JAL
haha
 
I went ahead and closed that for queen.
since it already had 4 votes.
 
SALUTE!
 
@Compass 18k editors is a lot actually, twice as many people as we had the past two weeks making edits to Docs...
 
how often does this event happen?
 
7:47 PM
That's UP to 18k technically
 
@queen can you write Docs then close vote?
 
@Rizier123 I could go for a double cappuccino
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC as often as we schedule it
 
@TylerH so how often do you schedule it
 
up to.
 
7:48 PM
@TylerH ☕☕ There you go :D
 
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC we expect 50 a day out of you as punishment
 
consider that Jon Skeet has 100 of those.
 
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC 2 to 3 times per week
 
@Drew nooooo
 
@Rizier123 thanks
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC it varies
 
7:49 PM
MY DOOOOOOM
 
Jon skeet is almost 1% of tag badges.
correction, he is 1% of tag badges.
 
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Salute back. While I'm using some sensical greek letters with my nick, I don't actually get yours. What's the reason to choose some nick like yours?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ read upside down please
 
#razy#ython
I guess actually #razydython
 
Shall we get Zalgo?
 
7:50 PM
@TylerH CrazyPython
 
@πάνταῥεῖ You think too Greek.
 
Hey, is it allowed to quote another user's answer in your answer and expand (alot) from that?
 
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC No the C is not turned upside down
 
@TIPS It's all greek for me :P
 
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC *razydython
 
7:51 PM
So it can't be Crazy when rotated
 
@TylerH that's for pinging
@TylerH pinging + no upside down capital C or P in Unicode
 
doesn't change the facts though
 
@TylerH The C's actually a math function, or so I've heard.
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Then stop being upside down. :P
 
@Compass Please not!
 
I used to be all Unicodey a while ago.
 
7:52 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ this is not greek or an upside down a at all
The near-open central vowel, or near-low central vowel, is a type of vowel sound, used in some spoken languages. The symbol in the International Phonetic Alphabet that represents this sound is 〈ɐ〉, a rotated lowercase letter a. While the IPA does not specify the rounding of [ɐ], the rounded variant of it is extremely rare - it has been reported to occur as a phoneme only in the Sabiny language, which contrasts overshort unrounded and overshort rounded near-open central vowels. The IPA prefers terms "close" and "open" for vowels, and the name of the article follows this. However, a large number...
 
But then I got a complaint on meta.ELL that questioned the ethics of . . . what I don't remember and asked me to change my name into something pingable.
 
what is up with that picture
 
I feel so privileged now that I can close vote
 
oh
 
@Compass dunno, open the page
 
@Compass Heh, that's Linguistics Wikipedia.
 
its apparently a vowel chart on the page with css content.
 
Random images, random sectioning, random explanations . . .
 
@Compass yeah
 
7:54 PM
so the image is worthless without... the stuff on it.
 
bad SE chat room code!
bad!
 
like graph paper, but not
 
sit!
stay!
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier thx for the PHP work
 
@Drew did someone say PHP
 
7:54 PM
Oh wait, this one has some relevance.
 
@Machavity I have this:
batch030b count=15 cv4 is in the beehive
 
pulls out laser
 
@uoɥʇʎPʎzɐɹC Feel free to choose whatever nick you want, that's a minor point ;)
 
@Magisch The whole world has now gone mad LQP review leads to actual improvement
 
You can find a better version here @Compass: westonruter.github.io/ipa-chart/keyboard
The vowels section.
@Machavity thanks for your comment
Now make me a sandwich
 
7:56 PM
I am not converting to linguistics.
 
stackoverflow.com/documentation/proposed/changes/76882 Does this still have a reject/approve option or does it just show rejected?
 
no, it's sudo make me a sandwich
 
You already have.
 
you need to sudo
 
Programming is just practical linguistics. You learn the syntax, then you make propositions.
 
7:57 PM
@TIPS programming is like linguistics but the compiler/interpreter is a grammar nazi
*unless it's JS :P
 
omg the cv queue grew to 9.6k
 
@TylerH Docs is weird.
 
@Compass it does that every day
 
we've been doing this for years!
 
@Compass That's disturbingly normal
 
7:58 PM
and i remember when the talk was about increasing number of votes to 80 but was dismissed due to "voting fatigue"
 
@Compass And there has been exponential growth for years
 
@Compass there are way more people voting to close stuff than there are people closing it
or flagging for closure
 
do you use a close vote when you tag-close something?
 
@Compass The fatigue is a lie actually exists.
 
@Compass hm?
 
7:59 PM
if i have a gold java badge
 
@Compass Tag-close?
 
oh, yes
 
is the close considered a close vote?
 
@Compass Yes.
 
Mjolniring a question uses a close vote
 

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