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12:00 AM
@AndrasDeak My firmware is supposed to run with full system administration rights, so how could I test it without running as root?
 
sudo su?
 
@AndrasDeak That's not feasible if you're starting from init at booting actually.
 
ah OK, my lack of knowledge in both linux and what you're doing is getting obvious:)
But that's OK, on my level it's enough to know that root user is unsafe:D
 
@AndrasDeak I'm working on an embedded target, and it's not even easy to access it with admin priviledges.
 
nice...
 
12:04 AM
@πάνταῥεῖ the "firmware" but not the one doing the admin work, or the unsuspecting user ;)
 
@Braiam users suck, anyway:P
 
I simply disable the telnetd for the production code.
@AndrasDeak They're allowed to suck after paying a certain amount of money ;-) ...
 
@Braiam Is it?
@Braiam I well know what I'm doing for debug vs production firmware. No reasons ro worry.
 
@Braiam just put...put it on SO Docs
 
12:13 AM
@AndrasDeak Meh!
Purposed to replace other well established docs was a train wreck from the beginning.
 
just found this, madness creeps on
good to see that Nicol's enduring still
 
@AndrasDeak Well, on Meta it doesn't do such harm as the actively productive doc's site.
@AndrasDeak I feel a slight choke while you're saying that. Have my empathy!
 
I'm beyond help:P but thanks
 
mildly entertaining whoismrrobot.com
 
Hmph.. I answer question. User deletes post without accepting. Rude...
 
12:26 AM
if anyone has delete votes they want to use, I've posted a few delete candidates in the campaigns room
 
holy moogly i come home to 571 new messages
 
12:49 AM
that's a k, I believe
 
1:09 AM
Someone already took care of it in charcoal
 
 
2 hours later…
2:50 AM
That last SD is spam. Please flag
 
user3956566
@Machavity yep I came in to say that ;)
 
3:55 AM
I don't know how much shorter he can get @Machavity
 
@Machavity I am thick. Where is the mcve there.
 
I admit, it's a bit of a low quality question, but I think his problem statement was clear enough. I don't see a reason to close there
 
My point is merely this: I will vote to close if someone just explains it a bit because I don't know the technology
Or I am too tired and I do know it
 
@TylerH do we post a cv?
I just vtc
no new activity as I see it
 
@Drew it wasn't a cv-pls request, though I personally did VTC it
just wanted to share a humorously terrible Q :-)
in Documentation Public Beta, 5 hours ago, by Shog9
If silver tag-badges counted as two votes for questions in that tag...
Interesting stats following this post ^
 
I didn't read too much of it, but if Shog could do something that would be great
Right now we have the following for :
questions counts for cv4,3,2,1 respectively: 71 180 338 891
 
4:26 AM
If a change like that were made it'd definitely apply site wide so all tags would be hit
 
of course; I guess Drew's point is to bring it to concretion by checking what effect it would have for his tag
 
4:41 AM
@FrankerZ Not sure the "Welcome to Stack Overflow" sentence is useful in that comment ;-P
 
It's part of the auto comment thing
Wish you could disable it for certain ones
 
really, the auto comment has that phrasing in it?
for spam stuff it doesn't make sense
 
I guess you can edit the comment afterwards, though that's cumbersome of course
 
indeed
and defeats the purpose of an auto comment
 
thanks Drew
 
4:53 AM
It a user is less then 1 week old, it prepends a welcome message (By default it's "Welcome to stackoverflow!")
I looked to see if I could disable that on a per message basis, but that doesn't seem to be the case
 
i.e. every spammer ever
 
I'll just edit it out before I post it
And make a feature request
 
I figure we are all in now and rene will have to forgive me ^^
 
lol
 
5:26 AM
is that a bug? the full domain name is templesofindia
but clearly off-topic
 
5:58 AM
though definitely tb and unclear
 
You should use f instead of fp, to pull the user off the blacklist (Ifunction they were added)
 
@FrankerZ thanks, noted
 
@tripleee sd f evaluates to sd fpu- so it puts the user off the blacklist and doesn't respond to the command as well as marking the report a false positive. sd fp responds to the command and doesn't put the user off the blacklist.
 
@Magisch sorry about that, the different bots have slightly different semantics -- perhaps they should be unified to have a single command set?
this user seems to be looking for questions with "real estate", I can't raise a moderator flag because I already flagged for spam
is there anything else which could be done to alert mods? how long before their automated tools trigger?
the spam is still there so somebody who didn't flag yet could raise a custom flag
 
@tripleee If you flagged it for spam and it doesn't get nuked, a mod will see it soon
Unresolved spam flags have a high priority in the mod flag queue
 
6:10 AM
@Magisch thanks, moving on then
 
@tripleee Not a problem
Eventually you'll get used to the smokey commands :p
 
@Magisch Queen doesn't like "f" so I just trained myself to say "fp" instead /-:
I'll put in a feature request for that
 
6:56 AM
Morning
 
@Magisch I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
Magisch passed an audit!
@Magisch You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 1 was an audit), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 14 minutes and 52 seconds, averaging to a review every 22 seconds.
 
7:35 AM
Hiya o/
 
Hey Tuna o/
 
Im out of close votes for today
40 CV reviews, 20 triage reviews, 40 LQP reviews and 20 SE reviews later...
 
@Magisch Darn son ô.ô
 
@SmokeDetector k (entirely unrelated copied text with spam link at the end)
 
7:53 AM
Plop!
 
Hey :)
 
@Yam No. Way too much code.
 
@Tunaki @PetterFriberg One of the questions you guys closed was brought up on meta: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/330493/…
@FrankerZ @tripleee Same
 
@Magisch thanks for the ping
 
8:07 AM
They are shutting down teams & refuse to shut down documentation?...
:/
 
@Magisch which one?
 
@Tunaki See answer
 
@Tunaki Click through that meta link
I answered, my answer includes a link
 
@Tunaki This
 
Yet again?!
There's another post for that
 
8:09 AM
@Seth can we just agree on to do the Documentation bashing somewhere else?
 
@Tunaki No
Thats a different albeit similar question
 
@Magisch Look at the second paragraph of that linked Meta. It is used as example.
 
The new meta post pertains a question about getting certificates
 
But it's the same SO post
 
@rene Let's bash PHP instead
 
8:11 AM
@rene Yes. I'm just a bit salty of missing my chance to join the SOCVR team. c:
 
@Tunaki Ahh, you're right
 
@Seth Aww, you can be in the team if you want! Just reach 3k you mortal.
 
@Kyll Hey, that isn't in the requirements :(
 
@Seth It is for you now. Rule #1 is we make up the rules as we go.
 
2k messages [X] & active for atleast 3 months [ ] (only 2 months now.
throws @Kyll far away
 
8:13 AM
Rule #2 of SOCVR: "Thou shalt throw thy kyll regularly"
 
@Seth yeah, I tried to make a case to replace it with something else but I didn't get support for that
 
@rene :( ..
 
Okay, they're taking things personally. Disengaging.
 
@Kyll You are mid-air, how are you disengaging? ô.ô
 
Oh it just picks the first tag it finds?
 
8:16 AM
@ivarni I think so c:
 
@ivarni Hello! Yes our script does that.
 
@Kyll whom?
 
But I guess I can add tags in the custom message then?
 
The tags are ordered by followers/questions though.
No need for that tbh
 
Fair enough, just feels had very little to do with that Q
 
8:17 AM
@kayess What rene is saying.
@Seth I'm always mid-air.
 
@kayess let's stay away form pointing out users here
 
@ivarni Sure. By default, we keep the first one as it brings a bit of context but feel free to write a custom message if you want.
 
@Kyll Darn it <.<
 
In that case, the question could be tagged better yeah.
 
@rene Sure, it just wasn't clear who Kyll talked about. Maybe I just didn't follow the transcript correctly, also no need to warn me, I'm aware of the faq........
 
8:19 AM
@kayess We warn you because we like you
Or something like that
 
sure.
 
This meta thread is already boiling tensions without the need to draw attention to this room further
so please don't
 
that ^
 
@Tunaki yep
 
8:26 AM
Yes.
Report!
 
So... OP and answerer spam?
 
It's the same URL that the accepted answer
 
wat
It's the same company but a different product and the answer is literally an ad
 
Ye... Delete that x?
 
nuked
 
8:28 AM
@Seth Language
Also nuked.
Yep, spam for me
 
Not talking about the deleted answer
I'm talking about the self-Q&A from the OP
Which contains the same URL, linked to a different service, as said spam answer.
 
@Seth Yeah but I think it may be the official doc
The spam answer was for a different product of that company
 
@Kyll Mhm. True.
 
> I looked at a tree today and a squirrel threw a nut at me so I'm mad
@Mag Well I've gotta find some ways to get more downvotes right?
 
@Kyll :p
 
8:38 AM
afk
 
morning
 
Petter o/
 
Hey Petter
One of the Qs you closed escalated into a Meta war
 
@Magisch this one @PetterFriberg
 
@Magisch the reason it was closed was because another meta had it as example, Tuna send cv-pls (but I guess you already know this), anyway read some but do not really have energy for that meta fun... just usual non-constructive meta stuff..
I guess it's better that people read what banner says, reason around the banner and come with constructive ideas to meta
 
8:52 AM
> and come with constructive ideas to meta. (Petter Friberg, 2016)
 
@Kyll Sorry about that though, I have just missed my daily dose of coffee... :) bcc @rene
 
!!/coffee
 
@Tunaki brews coffee for @Tunaki
 
gives to @kayess
 
@Tunaki TY
 
8:57 AM
@Magisch Must be fake, too little pixels...
 
@Magisch thanks anyway for heads up
 
@rene Its a link only self answered question with a static ressource pointing link
Thats like textbook bad these days
 
9:13 AM
looks like mr cacert has decided to cool it? meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/330392/…
in other news, the question in question, as it were, already has 4 reopen votes: stackoverflow.com/questions/23032165/…
 
@tripleee Meh if it gets reopened we can close it again
 
@Magisch sure, but at that time I think a proper meta discussion would be required
at least I would not dare go renominate it just after it got reopened after all this drama
 
Meanwhile, it has 4 reopen votes again. — Cerbrus 25 mins ago
@Cerbrus yes, one from me. With a bit rewording I don't see how that question isn't useful. — rene 23 mins ago
I'm so disappointed.
Don't reopen(-vote) a question before it's improved.
 
@Cerbrus I didn't think it needed improvement but I already understand I'm out-numbered here
 
It's a self-answered resource request. The whole idea of that question was to post an answer linking to the resources...
Imo, we're attributing too much value to that single question.
 
9:29 AM
tbh I think its a run of the mill standard ressource request even with self answer. If it was posted in exactly that way today we wouldn't think twice before closing, downvoting and fast-track-deleting it
 
I agree anyway passed a comment since I close voted, moving on to some more interesting stuff.
 
@Magisch This.
 
I won't enter the close-reopen war. Moving on.
 
@Seth Teams will be closed precisely because the dev ressources to bring it forward are otherwise occupied (for example with docs)
 
9:43 AM
It's been re-opened.
 
@Cerbrus When I have CVs again tomorrow, I'll close it again
I only flagged the answer as NAA, since it is worthless without the links (link only)
 
tempted to start a bounty
 
@rene: I'd classify that as abuse.
 
@queen gone
 
@Cerbrus yeah, I give up. I tried my best, made my point, I lost a weak case. cv-ed
 
9:47 AM
stackoverflow.com/posts/23032577/revisions He's edited comments into it now...
 
maybe we can stop talking of that post here also, it is on Meta
 
Not this again
It's not like we're disrupting some other discussion
 
@Tunaki And if we clutter the comments on meta any more, a mod will move them to chat.
Seems ... circular?
 
@Tunaki If you like to clear it from chat you can use remove.. I do not know if we like to clear or archive.
 
The question is a SO question, by the way
 
9:50 AM
The discussion here is a bit one-sided ... with only me on the side of the OP AND ALL OF YOU AGAINST THIS POOR FLOWER ;)
 
This is just a typical example of an OP that doesn't completely (want to?) understand how SO works, and is fighting to keep his precious rep.
TRAMPLE IT
... or don't. That'd be mean.
 
mean ... words ...
 
@rene poor flower
You are one step short of Cthulu, the dark one
What is one sided about this?
 
well I opened it since op cares and I'm trying to improve the general content of SO, hence encourage editing (and of all the crap around, that question is not really a problem), but do not tell anyone, I'm hiding behind queeny
 
Tbh I wouldn't mind if it got deleted alltogether, but I'll stay out of this for now. Tomorrow if its still open I'll close it, I flagged the answer as NAA, I made my point on meta, moving on.
 
9:53 AM
@rene The new question is actually way better, but now the accepted answer is garbage. The other answer is way more interesting already. Is there any way to hide those two ugly walls of certificate? They're noisy
Retracted my CV
 
@Kyll I'm not going to touch it anymore. One threat of abuse in my direction is enough to back-off
 
@Cerbrus Heh, yep
@rene What? Woah
 
@rene I... wasn't threatening you.
That wasn't my intention
 
@Kyll I suggested to bounty it ... I was playing with fire ...
@Cerbrus meh, I got that, no problem
 
@rene Don't you agree that placing a bounty on a controversial question like that is "dubious"?
 
9:57 AM
@Cerbrus yes
 
Placing a bounty with the express intent to prevent CVs is a suspendable offense afaik
Let me see if I can find the case I'm referring to
 
Ah, okay :-) Then we're on the same page
 
@Magisch yeah, please dig up if you can get me suspended somehow
 
@rene I don't want you to be suspended
 
then staph it
 
9:59 AM
Hammertime!
 
> Breaking news: rene suspended, CV queue reaches 100k again, SOCVR rebelled and took over Meta, diamonds gone rogue, Peter Mortensen defaces posts, random furry animal tried to take over SO but stumbled onto their own pointy weapon and died in gargles.
9
 
> But all's well at Documentation, final fixes to be shipped in 6-8 weeks.
3
 
not sure there
 
@Kyll LOL at Peter Mortensen
 
:D
 
10:02 AM
fun fact: the defacing came in the form of changing "affect" to "effect", "its" to "it's", etc.
 
Flagging @Kyll's post as too amusive
 
10:33 AM
> also what is quality assurance ??
@Floern Lobotomized
 
@Kyll - QA ==> testing
 
@TheLostMind I know what QA is, but OP didn't xD
 
@Kyll - Oh crap! < goes to get some coffee>
 
Haha
!!/coffee
 
@Kyll brews coffee for @Kyll
 
10:36 AM
climbs tree down, gives coffee to TLM
 
Thanks Kyll
I've 2 mugs of coffee now :)
 
@Tunaki Lobotomized
 
could use delete votes too
 
wat..? Too Broad, no?
 
Yeah.
 
10:44 AM
Its POB :P <Joke >
 
Also POB yes
 
:o Someone has performed over 6000 reviews in the help and improvement queue
o_O
 
Oh. Who is it ? :P
 
I stopped at 1000 exactly...
 
10:48 AM
hum ok they reposted the dupe comment but I'm still not sure...
 
@Kyll Lobotomized
 
@Tunaki How did you get through 1k of these?
 
That he's addicted.
 
I'm crazy.
 
^ Not duplicates
 
10:54 AM
this queue is really scary
 
@Tunaki i.stack.imgur.com/lrf36.png (antionebox)
King me
 
I'm saved by the "Image not found" :p Thank you proxy.
 
Gratz
 
@Kyll did you mod-flag the answer for the plagiarism?
 
@Tunaki No, good idea
 
10:57 AM
Plop!
 
@AshishAhujaツ o/
 
@AshishAhujaツ I've noticed you've started reviewing! I'll update your session record.
 
Plop Ashish!
 

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