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11:07 AM
I commented on a reviewer's question, linking to Undo's plea. cc@Tuna
And the reviewer is taking it very well. Nice!
 
11:19 AM
@Magisch Wow... I just learned something truly fun :/ I will probably have to move 120km away from my current workplace due to restructuring :(
 
That is not cool...
afk
 
And I'll loose my ability to wear t-shirts + jeans + sport shoes, I'll have to wear a suit.. >_>
 
Ashish Ahuja ツ passed a audit!
 
@Seth Ahh waffles
 
@Magisch And marmelade!
 
11:21 AM
@Seth I'm pretty sure they can't just do that with an apprentice
@Seth definitely talk to the ombudsperson in your school
IIRC forcing an apprentice to move when they're still living with their parents is not allowed by law
forcing anyone to move without exploring other options first and listening to exenuating circumstances is also illegal
 
Welp, I do not live with my parents anymore.
And I'll be offered the choice: Stay & do PHP debugging for the last 1.5 years of my apprentice ship
 
In that case, you may be screwed
 
Or move, and continue working with Java + also learn a shitton of new technologies
All in all it's a decent offer, but I dislike loosing a working environment that I've gotten to love ._.
 
Ashish Ahuja ツ passed a audit!
 
@Seth Well, do you want to keep working for these people?
 
11:32 AM
Morning
 
Ashish Ahuja ツ passed an audit!
 
@NathanOliver Morning
 
@NathanOliver Hi
 
Plop Nathan
 
morning!
 
11:33 AM
@Magisch That's the issue here. It's a really big company (it'll look pretty good on my otherwhise "harakiri"-styled CV), the people are - AFAIK - nice, and I have no clue where else I'll find this combination (and I also get paid enough to rent my own apt)...
@NathanOliver Good morning :)
But on the contrary, moving in like 6 months + getting a driver license in that time (yes, my fault, don't have one yet) + adapting to a completely new working, and, probably, development environment...
That's iffy. I don't know if I want that ._. ..
 
@Seth What city will you be moving to? For the bigger cities (frankfurt, berlin, etc) a apprentice salary won't even rent you a cardboard box
 
@Magisch Moving from Oldenburg to Leer..
Don't think it'll be a lot more/less, and I'll probably be paid a bit more as accomodation, but still. This sucks waffles.
 
So is the bot's name "queen" or "heat detector"?
 
Goes to show how fast things change I guess >.<
 
That sounds unpleasant
 
11:37 AM
@TIPS Queen :)
 
You'll have to check too if your school will even let you do this
 
Heat Detector is the "Rude comment detector"
 
Then what's with detecting hot places?
 
@Magisch Yup, they will.
 
Oh
 
11:37 AM
You'll require special permission from the IHK to change schools during an apprenticeship
 
@TIPS it detects offensive comments. Thus "Heat Detector"
 
I know my school doesn't let people, and as a result we have some people traveling 2h+ each way every school day
 
@TIPS The bot's name is Queen but she has a couple functions. One is the dupe finding and now she scans for potentially rude/abusive/spam comments.\
 
@Magisch Uhh... I'll check back with my instructor, hold on
 
"show 71 more comments" <-- I don't think I've seen a number that high, before.
 
11:39 AM
@Cerbrus Drama?
 
@Cerbrus I've seen "show 479 more comments".
 
@Seth At least thats what my headteacher told us all
 
@AshishAhujaツ You've reviewed 40 posts today (of which 3 were audits), thanks! The time between your first and last review today was 42 minutes and 41 seconds, averaging to a review every 1 minute and 4 seconds.
 
On ELL.
 
And that was in a class specifically about the legalities around apprenticeships
 
11:40 AM
@Magisch Uh, apparently he's working part-time for the IHK...
gg me :/
 
@Seth In that case thats moot then
 
@Kyll That meta thread we were discussing earlier
 
someone from the IHK can probably grant that without much hassle
 
@Cerbrus 55 comments about the exact meaning of "reputation" "score" and "defamation" heh.
 
Ye... Now I have 3 options :') Stay, do PHP and rot, leave, learn cool stuff & learn to adapt, or leave this business & look for something new.
 
11:42 AM
" CEO & Founder at HEFLO "
 
SD report = spam.
 
I would go for f (he has attribution on user page)
the question asked for it!
 
@PetterFriberg Thats not enough
Attribution prominently in the post or bust
But I agree, comment first
 
@Kyll I thought my "scoring" analogy was pretty nice...
 
No spamflags yet, people
 
11:43 AM
@Magisch Too late :p But I think that's a legitimate spam flag.
 
That's spam in my book
 
Meh, at worst it'll get disputed
 
@Kyll you sure?
 
@TIPS I am. c:
 
The user has another post with the same link
 
11:44 AM
'cause we got conflicting feedback
 
Aight then
 
Isn't "selfpromoting without disclosing affiliation" the very definition of spam?
 
that's spam guys
 
Only two posts are advertisements for their product
 
Yup :-)
 
11:44 AM
Spam. Nuke it.
 
Also: Really? 5 pings?
 
@Cerbrus You expected more, or less?
 
Pet peeve triggered
 
Alright, playtime's over
time for nukes
 
I expect 0.
It's ridiculous.
 
11:45 AM
@Seth Ninja'ed by Tushar
 
@Cerbrus :l
 
@Cerbrus But I love pinging you
 
@Kyll What? I've seen nuff'n!
 
@Magisch: I mean the SD reports
 
Why does one protect that?
?!
 
11:46 AM
Community did it for to much trash.
 
Question Protected by Community♦
 
It is a auto process
 
@Seth Because of the spam flags
 
Blame the spam.
What you don't see is that there are 2 nuked answers down there.
 
Ahh! Thanks :)
 
11:47 AM
@Cerbrus Yes, but people occasionally don't know this, and being punished by being flagged as spam is sometimes too much.
 
@Seth - IMHO, if you think that you will be doing something cool in the other place, you should consider it :)
 
Anyone here using SharpDevelop?
 
@TIPS If you register an account to advertise, you deserve the spam flags.
If the user had like 500 rep, it'd be a different story
 
@TheLostMind Yes, I probably should ._. Oh well, I have a couple of months to think about it.
 
@Seth definitely get your drivers license though
 
11:50 AM
@Seth - Nice.
 
a bit more than NAA right? stackoverflow.com/a/38742494/1743880 Tempted to flag as rude
 
rude.
Calling names, junk answer
 
Flagged as abusive
 
@Cerbrus I'm not sympathizing with spammers, but you know what I'm talking about. Declined spam flags are a thing.
 
@TIPS This one wouldn't be declined
 
11:51 AM
flags are flying today!
 
In general, I think we're holding back on flagging, too much. But maybe I've grown cynical.
 
@Cerbrus As a room we should yeah
Hold back on flagging I mean. Not grow cynical.
 
@Kyll Aw shoot.
But growing is good, right? :P
 
A beard, yes.
 
@Cerbrus You wouldn't be you if you wouldn't be cynical.
 
11:55 AM
I've long since lost patience for new people who can't be bothered to read
 
That's something that defines you :D In the same way that renes pixels define him :]
@Magisch Yes, will do.
 
@Seth I'd like to think I'm only a little cynical.
 
@Magisch I usually tend to give new users the benefit of the doubt if it's edgy.
If not, too bad for them :p
@Cerbrus Oh, you are. :)
 
Yeah, Queen, I know. This is my comment. :p
 
@EricD can't you hammer it then? It has the tag
 
12:08 PM
 
True... Don't be shy @EricD c:
 
@Yam nope
 
@Magisch: That guy must be born in Literal city, in the "People's republic of taking things literally"
Geez
 
@Yam nope to that too
 
Nope nope nope :D
 
12:11 PM
Is that an answer? stackoverflow.com/a/38743240/1743880 (check the history as well)
 
That's a comment
 
@Seth ahah :) at the time of the comment I wasn't 100% sure my target was ok - I changed my mind since then and hammered
 
That's a waffle stain.
 
@Tunaki I'd delete-vote
 
@Tunaki naa
 
12:12 PM
@Cerbrus yeah agree
 
*I've
 
@Tunaki At best a comment
 
poofd
 
aw, didn't get to delete it :(
 
@NathanOliver I'll give you something to delete
 
12:15 PM
Woot \o/
 
I'm waiting ^... ;-)
 
Tried but it said I needed to be a mod :(
 
...
Damnit
 
They never let us plebes have any fun
 
We still have 3 pages of active cv-pls.
 
12:28 PM
@Cerbrus In the Federation of unnecessarily complicating things
 
@Magisch Are you still following the discussion?
 
@Cerbrus Indeed
I just don't share the view that we should exempt this from the rules because some other ressource in his mind depends on it for page rank
 
i.sstatic.net/O1KVJ.png You don't even have to click that to know that discussion will end in nothing useful
 
Yeah we should modflag for a mod to move this whole mess to chat
 
Which brings us to the question, why is there no limit on the number of comments under a post in non-meta sites?
 
12:43 PM
@Magisch Link?
 
@TIPS Why should there be? And what would it be then?
 
Some people may not want to enter chat. forcing them to go there to have a longer discussion should not be done.
 
@Cerbrus 42?
 
@rene Can't argue that.
 
\o/
 
12:48 PM
@ivarni Link?
 
@MadaraUchiha: Meta Main
 
Don't wanna encourage even more trouble there though
 
Inviting a mod <> trouble
 
-21, 2 reopen votes, 1 delete vote, >100 comments
 
but... the mods placed it on hold? :p
 
12:49 PM
Sounds like a magnificent Meta question.
 
@MadaraUchiha Have a read. I've you haven't pulled your hair out by the end, you are winner.
Meta questions closed as "This question does not appear to seek input and discussion from the community." are often interesting :P
 
To be fair it looks like it did succeed in generating discussion
 
It's not possible for a user to delete-vote that question. (Accepted / upvoted answer. And the question itself has some upvotes) — Cerbrus 2 mins ago
 
For some definition of discussion
 
.. Yea.
He's telling me how to use SO
 
12:52 PM
@MadaraUchiha Its all about that Tool rec question with the NAA answer from 2014 that somehow got upvoted
Would be nice if you could clean up the whole bunch
 
Comments are not for extended discussion; this conversation has been moved to chat. — Madara Uchiha ♦ 1 min ago
*Sadface*
hehe
 
@Magisch Rene seems to have a point though, if it's actually the only working option it's a question that's worth keeping. The meta-post is absolutely useless though.
And now we wait for another meta post, ranting about how mods abuse their power ^-^ ...
 
Someone is wrong on the internet and this room isn't someone
 
@Seth At least time the "Mods" was actually a moderator, not a user :P
 
@Cerbrus True ;D
@rene Big question: Who's someone?
 
12:56 PM
@Seth 42
 
@42 Hey :]
It'll be funny af if there's actually a user named 42.
Which is probably not possible, given that that's a 2-letter-username.
 
I've removed his link-only self answer
 
<3
 
Time to get some salt.
 
And a wooden stake?
 
12:57 PM
i.sstatic.net/dmJBb.jpg <unoneboxed to appease @rene>
3
 
Now we are definitely going to see a meta post ranting about the power abuse of moderators :]
Grabs popcorn.
 
@rene 's family
 
@MadaraUchiha boo! gets pitchfork
 
@Tunaki Did what I could
 
@Magisch just ... don't ...
 
12:59 PM
@NathanOliver Your sacrifice wasn't in vain my friend.
 
@Magisch rene's family?
 
I know. Just feels like much wasn't done when I only moved 6 messages.
 
@rene Don't onebox or don't post that?
 
@Magisch onebox ofc
 
@Magisch Yes.
 
1:00 PM
@Tunaki No.
 
I like making flower puns and jokes
Its a ray of light in my otherwise mushy gray day
 
@Seth Well maybe.
 
@Tunaki Bad maybe.
 
morning!
 
Hiya gunr
 
1:04 PM
@gunr2171 Hey :}
 
Hiya
 
@Seth That reminds me of the Grinch who stole Christmas.
 
@NathanOliver :} ...
I want to write sd k...
 
@Seth You could have written.
 
@PraveenKumar But it wouldn't have done anything c:
 
1:08 PM
@Seth It WOULD HAVE APPROVED MY FEEDBACK! >:(
 
@PraveenKumar How so? o.o
 
Type sd k and press enter now. :P
 
I'm not even permissioned to use Smokey :(
 
Oh why?
Yup... Looks so...
 
I think <3k life :3
 
1:09 PM
Why? What happened?
 
Plop gunr, Praveen
 
I think I asked rene about it once, he said "get 3k scrubz"...
Not really though c:
 
^ too late
wait, was that report triggered by another dup hammer?
 
@gunr2171 It may have been triggered by the auto comment that is posted and then deleted. It might have caught it right before it was deleted.
 
ah
 
1:18 PM
Hammers don't post auto-comments do they?
 
Queen == Bee == Fast
 
Unless he manually typed it
@Seth Aaand now I have "Le bourdon" stuck in my head
 
@Kyll What's that?
 
@Kyll Pretty sure they do. I have seen a see one more comment pop up and when I click on it, it is gone and the Q is closed. Maybe a mod will be nice and let us know if there is a deleted comment.
 
@NathanOliver puts Scooby Snacks near that message
 
1:19 PM
:)
 
@Kyll Madara is still here I believe. I don't think that he's attracted by Scooby Snacks though :o
 
@Seth An extremely famous piece of classical music - youtube.com/watch?v=5LGYGxtozgg (features rene)
4
And a really really really weird animation o_o
 
@Kyll Gonna star that, at work right now, can't listen/watch :(
@Kyll Sounds good ... :}
 
Feels like my brain is shutting down when I watch it
Oh wait
Didn't have any coffee for two hours
That's why.
 
Can't have that...
!!/coffee
 
1:23 PM
@Seth brews coffee for @Seth
 
Throws @Kyll, together with the coffee
 
drinks coffee mid-air in slow-motion
 
@Kyll That reminds me of Hermy... Over the Hedge...
Ahahaha
Coffein + hyperactive rodent == Fun
 
Kyll is a nice cuddly rodent
If you feed him well he even apports
 
1:29 PM
There's a death threat there.
Nuke.
 
@SmokeDetector needs one more delete vote
 
What the flying fu... waffle is a rageful disarray?
And how can you be wrapped in one?
 
@Seth flying flu? This is the best in subject: youtube.com/watch?v=-AUZFidaYQk
 
@Seth Need at least 1k rep to find out ;)
 
You still don't have 1k rep @Seth?
 
1:34 PM
@FrankerZ Error, value qk not found.
 
Mobile sucks
 
No, I don't >.< Stop oppressing me based on my rep count Triggered
 
Get on that. I did like 1k rep in 4 days
 
@FrankerZ And without docs? o:
 
@Seth I wouldn't touch docs with a 10ft pole
 
1:35 PM
@FrankerZ You.
I like you :)
 
I touch docs but I do it from a review perspective. I gots to find me plagiarizers.
 
I'm back!
 
@AshishAhujaツ Hey back!
 
Woot \o/. It wasn't me
 
@NathanOliver she even caught you on the counter?
 
1:41 PM
What? The dad joke is what I was referring to.
C++ is getting haters on meta. To many down votes this morning/always
 
Oh. lol
 
also congrats on 3k score in C++
 
Do I really have that?
goes and checks
 
3001
 
1:44 PM
Meh, that's a noob score.
 
Oh wow. Cool. Thanks.
 
@Tunaki yeah but it's in C++ rather than a noob tag like :-D
 
:)
 
haha
 
stackoverflow.com/a/38745374/3933332 The joke is still real. 6 minutes after I closed it and then such a crap answer...
 
1:48 PM
sad
 
They really need to fix that so you can't hack the interface and post a answer. "soft closing" should not be done.
 
I think I'm first going to ask for some data; Like how many answers get posted after a question was closed and how many of those get upvoted/deleted/downvoted/accepted and such stuff. Even though I feel like the data won't show what I would hope it would show, since many answers just get upvoted and those posted after closing are mostly just duplicate and bad answers.
 
@Rizier123 We already have that data.
 
@Tunaki Where?
 
I think I queried it before.
In this transcript, will look it up
 
1:52 PM
I don't think you can query if an answer gets posted after the question got closed?!
 
Apr 3 at 17:23, by Tunaki
I can propose you the following which returns the percentage of answers posted after the question was closed as dupe https://data.stackexchange.com/stackoverflow/query/465379
around there @Rizier123 ^^
Numbers were scary indeed.
 
Can you also query how many of those are downvoted/upvoted? And maybe even if they got deleted afterwards?
 
sure add a condition on v.Score
Deleted is tricky as SEDE doesn't have all deleted questions
 

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